To any interested parties: I believe we should start changing the subject on this message instead of attaching to it. I have gotten several emails in the last few days about possibly distantly related families to the Pattons and the Lynns, i.e., Kincaid, Breckenridge, Preston, etc. It would be much easier, I think, for all of us if names not specifically concerning the subject families be given their own subjects. Just my thoughts. Pat

Hi Gay, The James Wilson in my line was the son of Mathew Wilson. Mathhew and his wife were lost in a shipwreck on the way to American but James and his brother Moses were brought to Philadelphia to stay with relatives and later moved to Augusta Co. He married a cousin, Rebecca Wilson daughter of Thomas Wilson and Elizabeth Dinwiddie. One of his sons was William Wilson, pastor of the Augusta Stone Church. His son Thomas ( born 1765) was born in Fairfield, Rockbridge Co., became a lawyer and moved to Morgantown, then Virginia He was a member of Congress from Monongahelia County 1811. He died in 1826 in Morgantown. His children were Edgar, Alpheus, Norval, Agnes, James, Philander, Eugenius, Narcissa, George, Louisa Ann (wife of 1st Pres. missionary to India) Julia and two Marys. I have lots more on them if you think anything connects. I don't see a Jerimiah but I have a huge notebook of xeroxed stuff from Staunton so I will look more thoroughly and set back if I find something. Jane Lyndon and Gay Nix wrote: > Jane, > What do you know about Thomas Wilson. > My husband descends from Jerimah Wilson who was from Augusta Co, Va. > He later migrates to Ky. > > Gay Nix > ************************************* > >List Administrator > >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > >**************************************************************** > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > ****************************************************************

Jane, What do you know about Thomas Wilson. My husband descends from Jerimah Wilson who was from Augusta Co, Va. He later migrates to Ky. Gay Nix Pat, Thanks so much for all the information. I am descended from Robert >Poague/Elizabeth Preston's son Thomas Poage who married Agnes McClanahan (daughter >of Robert and Sarah) on April 27, 1762. Their daughter Mary (Polly) Poague married >Thomas Wilson and their daughter Agnes is my great great grand mother. Does this >connect? Many years ago I did field work for my master's thesis on urban geography >in Londonderry without a clue at the time that my ancestors came from there. I am >so anxious to see Derry again with different eyes. We will have a walking tour of >he city which I am really looking forward to. Jane > >Patricia J Weisshaus wrote: > >> Jane, >> >> I can't believe it. I, too, am descended from Robert McClenachan through >> his daughter, Agnes McClenachan Wilson Dean. >> >> I believe that Sarah Breckenridge was the daughter of Alexander >> Breckenridge and Jane Preston, although there are those who dispute this. >> Following are the notes I have from my genealogy database: >> >> "Although most historians agree, the fact that whether or not Sarah is >> the daughter of Alexander Breckenridge is disputed by James Malcolm >> Breckenridge in WILLIAM CLARK BRECKENRIDGE ; HIS LIFE, LINEAGE AND >> WRITINGS, page 119. >> >> As further confirmation of her birth, it is clearly stated that she is >> Alexander's daughter by grand nephew, Rev. Robert J.Breckenridge in letter >> to Lyman Draper dated 18 Aug. 1851 found in PRESTON AND VIRGINIA PAPERS OF >> THE DRAPER COLLECTION OF MANUSCRIPTS, 6ZZ2a (Roll 122). >> >> Death date can be assumed to be near June 17, 1794 by Augusta County Court >> Record Book XXIII, page 126 because Alexander McClenachan and Alex St. >> Clair are appointed administrators of the estate of Sarah McClenachan >> (CHRONICLES OF THE SCOTCH-IRISH SETTLEMENT IN VIRGINIA, Volume I, page >> 277). Although a copy of this decree was found in the Family History >> Library, I have not yet found any probate. >> >> The marriage possibly took place in Ireland before emigration and will >> probably be impossible to establish, given the nature of Irish records. >> >> TODO: Try to find marriage in Ireland before emigration" >> >> According to what someone wrote on this list, they probably came from >> Donegal in the Lettterkenny area. I dn't know if it is possible (I don't >> think so) to find a marriage for Robert and Sarah Breckenridge. I don't >> know if church records for Donegal, Letterkenny area, are available in Dublin . >> >> I have a friend who lives in Antrim, and she is constantly reading >> newspapers which go back pretty far in Dublin. You might want to take a >> look at that. >> >> Good luck and contact me after you get back. I'm curious to know from which >> child you are descended. >> >> Pat >> >> At 02:54 PM 5/9/2004, you wrote: >> >I am descended from Alexander Breckenridge as well as Robert Poague and Robert >> >McClanahan. At least Breckenridge settled in Chambersburg PA for a short time >> >before going to Staunton VA. I live about 12 miles from Chambersburg. I >> >am leaving >> >for Ireland next week and while I expect very little free time in >> >Londonderry can >> >anyone suggest any books that might be available there or questions I can >> >ask the >> >guides and others I meet about these families or generally about emigrants >> >of the >> >1720-40's - where they would have left from etc. Most of these families >> >seem to >> >have been from the Londonderry area. Jane >> > >> >Lyndon and Gay Nix wrote: >> > >> > > Pat, >> > > Letitia Preston the daughter of John Preston and Elizabeth Patton who was >> > > born ca 1725/28 married Col. Robert Breckenridge. >> > > Alexander Breckenridge md Jane Preston she was the sister of John Preston. >> > > James Patton brought these people to help settle the grant he had in >> > Augusta >> > > Co, Va. >> > > Gay Nix >> > > >> > > >In regard to James and Henry Patton, has anyone discovered a relationship >> > > >to the Alexander Breckenridge family? I have always felt there was in >> > some way. >> > > > >> > > >I have the following notes in my genealogy database, if it is of >> > interested >> > > >to anyone. >> > > > >> > > >TODO: Chalkleys vol. 1 page 419 County court judgements June, 1803 (I to >> > > >Z): suit Mathew Patton vs. Archibald Thompson - defendant, servant of >> > > >plaintiff, had enlisted as a solder under Capt. Gibson. Talks about >> > > >William Patton, John Patton and James Patton one of whom possibly married >> > > >Mary Briscoe in Carickafodan 1741 in parish of Donagh, Donegal, Ireland by >> > > >Rev. Thomas Shawbridge. Also mentions Tulanree parish of Donagh, >> > > >Donegal. Bill states that James is only son and heir of John who was only >> > > >son and heir of William. William left them in Ireland in 1741. See >> > if any >> > > >information about this family in Ireland. Look for Breckenridges in >> > same >> > > >area. >> > > > >> > > >Further information: Will of William Patton dated 5 March 1793, he states >> > > >that he married Mary Beaty, daughter of Alexander Beaty of the parish of >> > > >Donnagh in the county of "Dunnigall" "sometime in the year of our Lord one >> > > >thousand seven hundred and forty. I had one son John which wife and son I >> > > >left in Ireland about one year after my marriage aforesaid and whereas I >> > > >have been informed that my said wife Mary is now dead,...I give and >> > > >bequeath the whole of the remainder of my estate to my son John...." Alex >> > > >St. Clair witness. >> > > > >> > > >It seems to me that somewhere along the line there was a relationship >> > > >suggested, and that one of the Pattons shipped many people from Ireland, >> > > >including he Breckenridges. Alexander Breckenridge's wife's maiden name is >> > > >possibly Preston although I have also seen it as Patton. >> > > > >> > > >Pat >> > > > >> > > >At 08:58 AM 5/9/2004, Lyndon and Gay Nix wrote: >> > > >>Deborah, >> > > >>I only have information on James Patton. >> > > >>I also had Hounshell family from Wythe County. >> > > >>I went on a 3 week research trip there and Pulaski, Montgomery and >> > all the >> > > >>connecting counties plus Augusta County, that is beautiful country, got >> > > >>visit Tinkling Springs cemetery. >> > > >>I visited the William Preston home which sets on the collage campus >> > and the >> > > >>grave yard, so much history in the area. >> > > >>James was the son of Henry and brother to John. >> > > >> >> > > >> Gay Nix >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >> ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >> **************************************************************** >> List Administrator >> Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >> **************************************************************** > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >**************************************************************** > > >

Was Agnes McClenachen Wilson Dean the dau. of Robert & Sarah or was the Agnes that m Thomas Pogue? I'm confused. Sue in Newport ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Ehemann" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 7:12 AM Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Henry Patton & Sarah Lynn > Hi Pat, Thanks so much for all the information. I am descended from Robert > Poague/Elizabeth Preston's son Thomas Poage who married Agnes McClanahan (daughter > of Robert and Sarah) on April 27, 1762. Their daughter Mary (Polly) Poague married > Thomas Wilson and their daughter Agnes is my great great grand mother. Does this > connect? Many years ago I did field work for my master's thesis on urban geography > in Londonderry without a clue at the time that my ancestors came from there. I am > so anxious to see Derry again with different eyes. We will have a walking tour of > he city which I am really looking forward to. Jane > > Patricia J Weisshaus wrote: > > > Jane, > > > > I can't believe it. I, too, am descended from Robert McClenachan through > > his daughter, Agnes McClenachan Wilson Dean. > > > > I believe that Sarah Breckenridge was the daughter of Alexander > > Breckenridge and Jane Preston, although there are those who dispute this. > > Following are the notes I have from my genealogy database: > > > > "Although most historians agree, the fact that whether or not Sarah is > > the daughter of Alexander Breckenridge is disputed by James Malcolm > > Breckenridge in WILLIAM CLARK BRECKENRIDGE ; HIS LIFE, LINEAGE AND > > WRITINGS, page 119. > > > > As further confirmation of her birth, it is clearly stated that she is > > Alexander's daughter by grand nephew, Rev. Robert J.Breckenridge in letter > > to Lyman Draper dated 18 Aug. 1851 found in PRESTON AND VIRGINIA PAPERS OF > > THE DRAPER COLLECTION OF MANUSCRIPTS, 6ZZ2a (Roll 122). > > > > Death date can be assumed to be near June 17, 1794 by Augusta County Court > > Record Book XXIII, page 126 because Alexander McClenachan and Alex St. > > Clair are appointed administrators of the estate of Sarah McClenachan > > (CHRONICLES OF THE SCOTCH-IRISH SETTLEMENT IN VIRGINIA, Volume I, page > > 277). Although a copy of this decree was found in the Family History > > Library, I have not yet found any probate. > > > > The marriage possibly took place in Ireland before emigration and will > > probably be impossible to establish, given the nature of Irish records. > > > > TODO: Try to find marriage in Ireland before emigration" > > > > According to what someone wrote on this list, they probably came from > > Donegal in the Lettterkenny area. I dn't know if it is possible (I don't > > think so) to find a marriage for Robert and Sarah Breckenridge. I don't > > know if church records for Donegal, Letterkenny area, are available in Dublin . > > > > I have a friend who lives in Antrim, and she is constantly reading > > newspapers which go back pretty far in Dublin. You might want to take a > > look at that. > > > > Good luck and contact me after you get back. I'm curious to know from which > > child you are descended. > > > > Pat > > > > At 02:54 PM 5/9/2004, you wrote: > > >I am descended from Alexander Breckenridge as well as Robert Poague and Robert > > >McClanahan. At least Breckenridge settled in Chambersburg PA for a short time > > >before going to Staunton VA. I live about 12 miles from Chambersburg. I > > >am leaving > > >for Ireland next week and while I expect very little free time in > > >Londonderry can > > >anyone suggest any books that might be available there or questions I can > > >ask the > > >guides and others I meet about these families or generally about emigrants > > >of the > > >1720-40's - where they would have left from etc. Most of these families > > >seem to > > >have been from the Londonderry area. Jane > > > > > >Lyndon and Gay Nix wrote: > > > > > > > Pat, > > > > Letitia Preston the daughter of John Preston and Elizabeth Patton who was > > > > born ca 1725/28 married Col. Robert Breckenridge. > > > > Alexander Breckenridge md Jane Preston she was the sister of John Preston. > > > > James Patton brought these people to help settle the grant he had in > > > Augusta > > > > Co, Va. > > > > Gay Nix > > > > > > > > >In regard to James and Henry Patton, has anyone discovered a relationship > > > > >to the Alexander Breckenridge family? I have always felt there was in > > > some way. > > > > > > > > > >I have the following notes in my genealogy database, if it is of > > > interested > > > > >to anyone. > > > > > > > > > >TODO: Chalkleys vol. 1 page 419 County court judgements June, 1803 (I to > > > > >Z): suit Mathew Patton vs. Archibald Thompson - defendant, servant of > > > > >plaintiff, had enlisted as a solder under Capt. Gibson. Talks about > > > > >William Patton, John Patton and James Patton one of whom possibly married > > > > >Mary Briscoe in Carickafodan 1741 in parish of Donagh, Donegal, Ireland by > > > > >Rev. Thomas Shawbridge. Also mentions Tulanree parish of Donagh, > > > > >Donegal. Bill states that James is only son and heir of John who was only > > > > >son and heir of William. William left them in Ireland in 1741. See > > > if any > > > > >information about this family in Ireland. Look for Breckenridges in > > > same > > > > >area. > > > > > > > > > >Further information: Will of William Patton dated 5 March 1793, he states > > > > >that he married Mary Beaty, daughter of Alexander Beaty of the parish of > > > > >Donnagh in the county of "Dunnigall" "sometime in the year of our Lord one > > > > >thousand seven hundred and forty. I had one son John which wife and son I > > > > >left in Ireland about one year after my marriage aforesaid and whereas I > > > > >have been informed that my said wife Mary is now dead,...I give and > > > > >bequeath the whole of the remainder of my estate to my son John...." Alex > > > > >St. Clair witness. > > > > > > > > > >It seems to me that somewhere along the line there was a relationship > > > > >suggested, and that one of the Pattons shipped many people from Ireland, > > > > >including he Breckenridges. Alexander Breckenridge's wife's maiden name is > > > > >possibly Preston although I have also seen it as Patton. > > > > > > > > > >Pat > > > > > > > > > >At 08:58 AM 5/9/2004, Lyndon and Gay Nix wrote: > > > > >>Deborah, > > > > >>I only have information on James Patton. > > > > >>I also had Hounshell family from Wythe County. > > > > >>I went on a 3 week research trip there and Pulaski, Montgomery and > > > all the > > > > >>connecting counties plus Augusta County, that is beautiful country, got > > > > >>visit Tinkling Springs cemetery. > > > > >>I visited the William Preston home which sets on the collage campus > > > and the > > > > >>grave yard, so much history in the area. > > > > >>James was the son of Henry and brother to John. > > > > >> > > > > >> Gay Nix > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > **************************************************************** > > List Administrator > > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > **************************************************************** > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** >

Hi Pat, Thanks so much for all the information. I am descended from Robert Poague/Elizabeth Preston's son Thomas Poage who married Agnes McClanahan (daughter of Robert and Sarah) on April 27, 1762. Their daughter Mary (Polly) Poague married Thomas Wilson and their daughter Agnes is my great great grand mother. Does this connect? Many years ago I did field work for my master's thesis on urban geography in Londonderry without a clue at the time that my ancestors came from there. I am so anxious to see Derry again with different eyes. We will have a walking tour of he city which I am really looking forward to. Jane Patricia J Weisshaus wrote: > Jane, > > I can't believe it. I, too, am descended from Robert McClenachan through > his daughter, Agnes McClenachan Wilson Dean. > > I believe that Sarah Breckenridge was the daughter of Alexander > Breckenridge and Jane Preston, although there are those who dispute this. > Following are the notes I have from my genealogy database: > > "Although most historians agree, the fact that whether or not Sarah is > the daughter of Alexander Breckenridge is disputed by James Malcolm > Breckenridge in WILLIAM CLARK BRECKENRIDGE ; HIS LIFE, LINEAGE AND > WRITINGS, page 119. > > As further confirmation of her birth, it is clearly stated that she is > Alexander's daughter by grand nephew, Rev. Robert J.Breckenridge in letter > to Lyman Draper dated 18 Aug. 1851 found in PRESTON AND VIRGINIA PAPERS OF > THE DRAPER COLLECTION OF MANUSCRIPTS, 6ZZ2a (Roll 122). > > Death date can be assumed to be near June 17, 1794 by Augusta County Court > Record Book XXIII, page 126 because Alexander McClenachan and Alex St. > Clair are appointed administrators of the estate of Sarah McClenachan > (CHRONICLES OF THE SCOTCH-IRISH SETTLEMENT IN VIRGINIA, Volume I, page > 277). Although a copy of this decree was found in the Family History > Library, I have not yet found any probate. > > The marriage possibly took place in Ireland before emigration and will > probably be impossible to establish, given the nature of Irish records. > > TODO: Try to find marriage in Ireland before emigration" > > According to what someone wrote on this list, they probably came from > Donegal in the Lettterkenny area. I dn't know if it is possible (I don't > think so) to find a marriage for Robert and Sarah Breckenridge. I don't > know if church records for Donegal, Letterkenny area, are available in Dublin . > > I have a friend who lives in Antrim, and she is constantly reading > newspapers which go back pretty far in Dublin. You might want to take a > look at that. > > Good luck and contact me after you get back. I'm curious to know from which > child you are descended. > > Pat > > At 02:54 PM 5/9/2004, you wrote: > >I am descended from Alexander Breckenridge as well as Robert Poague and Robert > >McClanahan. At least Breckenridge settled in Chambersburg PA for a short time > >before going to Staunton VA. I live about 12 miles from Chambersburg. I > >am leaving > >for Ireland next week and while I expect very little free time in > >Londonderry can > >anyone suggest any books that might be available there or questions I can > >ask the > >guides and others I meet about these families or generally about emigrants > >of the > >1720-40's - where they would have left from etc. Most of these families > >seem to > >have been from the Londonderry area. Jane > > > >Lyndon and Gay Nix wrote: > > > > > Pat, > > > Letitia Preston the daughter of John Preston and Elizabeth Patton who was > > > born ca 1725/28 married Col. Robert Breckenridge. > > > Alexander Breckenridge md Jane Preston she was the sister of John Preston. > > > James Patton brought these people to help settle the grant he had in > > Augusta > > > Co, Va. > > > Gay Nix > > > > > > >In regard to James and Henry Patton, has anyone discovered a relationship > > > >to the Alexander Breckenridge family? I have always felt there was in > > some way. > > > > > > > >I have the following notes in my genealogy database, if it is of > > interested > > > >to anyone. > > > > > > > >TODO: Chalkleys vol. 1 page 419 County court judgements June, 1803 (I to > > > >Z): suit Mathew Patton vs. Archibald Thompson - defendant, servant of > > > >plaintiff, had enlisted as a solder under Capt. Gibson. Talks about > > > >William Patton, John Patton and James Patton one of whom possibly married > > > >Mary Briscoe in Carickafodan 1741 in parish of Donagh, Donegal, Ireland by > > > >Rev. Thomas Shawbridge. Also mentions Tulanree parish of Donagh, > > > >Donegal. Bill states that James is only son and heir of John who was only > > > >son and heir of William. William left them in Ireland in 1741. See > > if any > > > >information about this family in Ireland. Look for Breckenridges in > > same > > > >area. > > > > > > > >Further information: Will of William Patton dated 5 March 1793, he states > > > >that he married Mary Beaty, daughter of Alexander Beaty of the parish of > > > >Donnagh in the county of "Dunnigall" "sometime in the year of our Lord one > > > >thousand seven hundred and forty. I had one son John which wife and son I > > > >left in Ireland about one year after my marriage aforesaid and whereas I > > > >have been informed that my said wife Mary is now dead,...I give and > > > >bequeath the whole of the remainder of my estate to my son John...." Alex > > > >St. Clair witness. > > > > > > > >It seems to me that somewhere along the line there was a relationship > > > >suggested, and that one of the Pattons shipped many people from Ireland, > > > >including he Breckenridges. Alexander Breckenridge's wife's maiden name is > > > >possibly Preston although I have also seen it as Patton. > > > > > > > >Pat > > > > > > > >At 08:58 AM 5/9/2004, Lyndon and Gay Nix wrote: > > > >>Deborah, > > > >>I only have information on James Patton. > > > >>I also had Hounshell family from Wythe County. > > > >>I went on a 3 week research trip there and Pulaski, Montgomery and > > all the > > > >>connecting counties plus Augusta County, that is beautiful country, got > > > >>visit Tinkling Springs cemetery. > > > >>I visited the William Preston home which sets on the collage campus > > and the > > > >>grave yard, so much history in the area. > > > >>James was the son of Henry and brother to John. > > > >> > > > >> Gay Nix > > > >> > > > >> > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > ****************************************************************

Agnes McClenachen Wilson Dean's daughter by John Wilson married John Kincaid and shows up in KY. Do you know anything about this John Wilson and this John Kincaid? Her daughters Alice and Elizabeth Dean marry John and James Kincaid, most probably the sons of Andrew Kincaid d 1811-2 Greenbrier Co. (My ancestress Elizabeth Kincaid is Andrew's daughter). Which of Agnes' children do you descend from? Sue in Newport ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia J Weisshaus" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Henry Patton & Sarah Lynn > Jane, > > I can't believe it. I, too, am descended from Robert McClenachan through > his daughter, Agnes McClenachan Wilson Dean. > > > I believe that Sarah Breckenridge was the daughter of Alexander > Breckenridge and Jane Preston, although there are those who dispute this. > Following are the notes I have from my genealogy database: > > "Although most historians agree, the fact that whether or not Sarah is > the daughter of Alexander Breckenridge is disputed by James Malcolm > Breckenridge in WILLIAM CLARK BRECKENRIDGE ; HIS LIFE, LINEAGE AND > WRITINGS, page 119. > > As further confirmation of her birth, it is clearly stated that she is > Alexander's daughter by grand nephew, Rev. Robert J.Breckenridge in letter > to Lyman Draper dated 18 Aug. 1851 found in PRESTON AND VIRGINIA PAPERS OF > THE DRAPER COLLECTION OF MANUSCRIPTS, 6ZZ2a (Roll 122). > > Death date can be assumed to be near June 17, 1794 by Augusta County Court > Record Book XXIII, page 126 because Alexander McClenachan and Alex St. > Clair are appointed administrators of the estate of Sarah McClenachan > (CHRONICLES OF THE SCOTCH-IRISH SETTLEMENT IN VIRGINIA, Volume I, page > 277). Although a copy of this decree was found in the Family History > Library, I have not yet found any probate. > > The marriage possibly took place in Ireland before emigration and will > probably be impossible to establish, given the nature of Irish records. > > TODO: Try to find marriage in Ireland before emigration" > > According to what someone wrote on this list, they probably came from > Donegal in the Lettterkenny area. I dn't know if it is possible (I don't > think so) to find a marriage for Robert and Sarah Breckenridge. I don't > know if church records for Donegal, Letterkenny area, are available in Dublin . > > I have a friend who lives in Antrim, and she is constantly reading > newspapers which go back pretty far in Dublin. You might want to take a > look at that. > > Good luck and contact me after you get back. I'm curious to know from which > child you are descended. > > Pat > > > At 02:54 PM 5/9/2004, you wrote: > >I am descended from Alexander Breckenridge as well as Robert Poague and Robert > >McClanahan. At least Breckenridge settled in Chambersburg PA for a short time > >before going to Staunton VA. I live about 12 miles from Chambersburg. I > >am leaving > >for Ireland next week and while I expect very little free time in > >Londonderry can > >anyone suggest any books that might be available there or questions I can > >ask the > >guides and others I meet about these families or generally about emigrants > >of the > >1720-40's - where they would have left from etc. Most of these families > >seem to > >have been from the Londonderry area. Jane > > > >Lyndon and Gay Nix wrote: > > > > > Pat, > > > Letitia Preston the daughter of John Preston and Elizabeth Patton who was > > > born ca 1725/28 married Col. Robert Breckenridge. > > > Alexander Breckenridge md Jane Preston she was the sister of John Preston. > > > James Patton brought these people to help settle the grant he had in > > Augusta > > > Co, Va. > > > Gay Nix > > > > > > >In regard to James and Henry Patton, has anyone discovered a relationship > > > >to the Alexander Breckenridge family? I have always felt there was in > > some way. > > > > > > > >I have the following notes in my genealogy database, if it is of > > interested > > > >to anyone. > > > > > > > >TODO: Chalkleys vol. 1 page 419 County court judgements June, 1803 (I to > > > >Z): suit Mathew Patton vs. Archibald Thompson - defendant, servant of > > > >plaintiff, had enlisted as a solder under Capt. Gibson. Talks about > > > >William Patton, John Patton and James Patton one of whom possibly married > > > >Mary Briscoe in Carickafodan 1741 in parish of Donagh, Donegal, Ireland by > > > >Rev. Thomas Shawbridge. Also mentions Tulanree parish of Donagh, > > > >Donegal. Bill states that James is only son and heir of John who was only > > > >son and heir of William. William left them in Ireland in 1741. See > > if any > > > >information about this family in Ireland. Look for Breckenridges in > > same > > > >area. > > > > > > > >Further information: Will of William Patton dated 5 March 1793, he states > > > >that he married Mary Beaty, daughter of Alexander Beaty of the parish of > > > >Donnagh in the county of "Dunnigall" "sometime in the year of our Lord one > > > >thousand seven hundred and forty. I had one son John which wife and son I > > > >left in Ireland about one year after my marriage aforesaid and whereas I > > > >have been informed that my said wife Mary is now dead,...I give and > > > >bequeath the whole of the remainder of my estate to my son John...." Alex > > > >St. Clair witness. > > > > > > > >It seems to me that somewhere along the line there was a relationship > > > >suggested, and that one of the Pattons shipped many people from Ireland, > > > >including he Breckenridges. Alexander Breckenridge's wife's maiden name is > > > >possibly Preston although I have also seen it as Patton. > > > > > > > >Pat > > > > > > > >At 08:58 AM 5/9/2004, Lyndon and Gay Nix wrote: > > > >>Deborah, > > > >>I only have information on James Patton. > > > >>I also had Hounshell family from Wythe County. > > > >>I went on a 3 week research trip there and Pulaski, Montgomery and > > all the > > > >>connecting counties plus Augusta County, that is beautiful country, got > > > >>visit Tinkling Springs cemetery. > > > >>I visited the William Preston home which sets on the collage campus > > and the > > > >>grave yard, so much history in the area. > > > >>James was the son of Henry and brother to John. > > > >> > > > >> Gay Nix > > > >> > > > >> > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** >

Jane, I can't believe it. I, too, am descended from Robert McClenachan through his daughter, Agnes McClenachan Wilson Dean. I believe that Sarah Breckenridge was the daughter of Alexander Breckenridge and Jane Preston, although there are those who dispute this. Following are the notes I have from my genealogy database: "Although most historians agree, the fact that whether or not Sarah is the daughter of Alexander Breckenridge is disputed by James Malcolm Breckenridge in WILLIAM CLARK BRECKENRIDGE ; HIS LIFE, LINEAGE AND WRITINGS, page 119. As further confirmation of her birth, it is clearly stated that she is Alexander's daughter by grand nephew, Rev. Robert J.Breckenridge in letter to Lyman Draper dated 18 Aug. 1851 found in PRESTON AND VIRGINIA PAPERS OF THE DRAPER COLLECTION OF MANUSCRIPTS, 6ZZ2a (Roll 122). Death date can be assumed to be near June 17, 1794 by Augusta County Court Record Book XXIII, page 126 because Alexander McClenachan and Alex St. Clair are appointed administrators of the estate of Sarah McClenachan (CHRONICLES OF THE SCOTCH-IRISH SETTLEMENT IN VIRGINIA, Volume I, page 277). Although a copy of this decree was found in the Family History Library, I have not yet found any probate. The marriage possibly took place in Ireland before emigration and will probably be impossible to establish, given the nature of Irish records. TODO: Try to find marriage in Ireland before emigration" According to what someone wrote on this list, they probably came from Donegal in the Lettterkenny area. I dn't know if it is possible (I don't think so) to find a marriage for Robert and Sarah Breckenridge. I don't know if church records for Donegal, Letterkenny area, are available in Dublin . I have a friend who lives in Antrim, and she is constantly reading newspapers which go back pretty far in Dublin. You might want to take a look at that. Good luck and contact me after you get back. I'm curious to know from which child you are descended. Pat At 02:54 PM 5/9/2004, you wrote: >I am descended from Alexander Breckenridge as well as Robert Poague and Robert >McClanahan. At least Breckenridge settled in Chambersburg PA for a short time >before going to Staunton VA. I live about 12 miles from Chambersburg. I >am leaving >for Ireland next week and while I expect very little free time in >Londonderry can >anyone suggest any books that might be available there or questions I can >ask the >guides and others I meet about these families or generally about emigrants >of the >1720-40's - where they would have left from etc. Most of these families >seem to >have been from the Londonderry area. Jane > >Lyndon and Gay Nix wrote: > > > Pat, > > Letitia Preston the daughter of John Preston and Elizabeth Patton who was > > born ca 1725/28 married Col. Robert Breckenridge. > > Alexander Breckenridge md Jane Preston she was the sister of John Preston. > > James Patton brought these people to help settle the grant he had in > Augusta > > Co, Va. > > Gay Nix > > > > >In regard to James and Henry Patton, has anyone discovered a relationship > > >to the Alexander Breckenridge family? I have always felt there was in > some way. > > > > > >I have the following notes in my genealogy database, if it is of > interested > > >to anyone. > > > > > >TODO: Chalkleys vol. 1 page 419 County court judgements June, 1803 (I to > > >Z): suit Mathew Patton vs. Archibald Thompson - defendant, servant of > > >plaintiff, had enlisted as a solder under Capt. Gibson. Talks about > > >William Patton, John Patton and James Patton one of whom possibly married > > >Mary Briscoe in Carickafodan 1741 in parish of Donagh, Donegal, Ireland by > > >Rev. Thomas Shawbridge. Also mentions Tulanree parish of Donagh, > > >Donegal. Bill states that James is only son and heir of John who was only > > >son and heir of William. William left them in Ireland in 1741. See > if any > > >information about this family in Ireland. Look for Breckenridges in > same > > >area. > > > > > >Further information: Will of William Patton dated 5 March 1793, he states > > >that he married Mary Beaty, daughter of Alexander Beaty of the parish of > > >Donnagh in the county of "Dunnigall" "sometime in the year of our Lord one > > >thousand seven hundred and forty. I had one son John which wife and son I > > >left in Ireland about one year after my marriage aforesaid and whereas I > > >have been informed that my said wife Mary is now dead,...I give and > > >bequeath the whole of the remainder of my estate to my son John...." Alex > > >St. Clair witness. > > > > > >It seems to me that somewhere along the line there was a relationship > > >suggested, and that one of the Pattons shipped many people from Ireland, > > >including he Breckenridges. Alexander Breckenridge's wife's maiden name is > > >possibly Preston although I have also seen it as Patton. > > > > > >Pat > > > > > >At 08:58 AM 5/9/2004, Lyndon and Gay Nix wrote: > > >>Deborah, > > >>I only have information on James Patton. > > >>I also had Hounshell family from Wythe County. > > >>I went on a 3 week research trip there and Pulaski, Montgomery and > all the > > >>connecting counties plus Augusta County, that is beautiful country, got > > >>visit Tinkling Springs cemetery. > > >>I visited the William Preston home which sets on the collage campus > and the > > >>grave yard, so much history in the area. > > >>James was the son of Henry and brother to John. > > >> > > >> Gay Nix > > >> > > >>

Wow! Gay, you lucky person! I would love to visit Virginia! Velma

Hi Lynda: I think this may be two different families - of all the variations in spelling for the Kinnears - Keener or Keiner is not common. No Ulrich or Adam in the index. There was a large PA family in my Kinnear family group. There is also a vrey large Simpson connection that brings General/President Grant into the family. His mother was a Simpson and they relate to the Kinnears. Sorry I could not help. John

I am descended from Alexander Breckenridge as well as Robert Poague and Robert McClanahan. At least Breckenridge settled in Chambersburg PA for a short time before going to Staunton VA. I live about 12 miles from Chambersburg. I am leaving for Ireland next week and while I expect very little free time in Londonderry can anyone suggest any books that might be available there or questions I can ask the guides and others I meet about these families or generally about emigrants of the 1720-40's - where they would have left from etc. Most of these families seem to have been from the Londonderry area. Jane Lyndon and Gay Nix wrote: > Pat, > Letitia Preston the daughter of John Preston and Elizabeth Patton who was > born ca 1725/28 married Col. Robert Breckenridge. > Alexander Breckenridge md Jane Preston she was the sister of John Preston. > James Patton brought these people to help settle the grant he had in Augusta > Co, Va. > Gay Nix > > >In regard to James and Henry Patton, has anyone discovered a relationship > >to the Alexander Breckenridge family? I have always felt there was in some way. > > > >I have the following notes in my genealogy database, if it is of interested > >to anyone. > > > >TODO: Chalkleys vol. 1 page 419 County court judgements June, 1803 (I to > >Z): suit Mathew Patton vs. Archibald Thompson - defendant, servant of > >plaintiff, had enlisted as a solder under Capt. Gibson. Talks about > >William Patton, John Patton and James Patton one of whom possibly married > >Mary Briscoe in Carickafodan 1741 in parish of Donagh, Donegal, Ireland by > >Rev. Thomas Shawbridge. Also mentions Tulanree parish of Donagh, > >Donegal. Bill states that James is only son and heir of John who was only > >son and heir of William. William left them in Ireland in 1741. See if any > >information about this family in Ireland. Look for Breckenridges in same > >area. > > > >Further information: Will of William Patton dated 5 March 1793, he states > >that he married Mary Beaty, daughter of Alexander Beaty of the parish of > >Donnagh in the county of "Dunnigall" "sometime in the year of our Lord one > >thousand seven hundred and forty. I had one son John which wife and son I > >left in Ireland about one year after my marriage aforesaid and whereas I > >have been informed that my said wife Mary is now dead,...I give and > >bequeath the whole of the remainder of my estate to my son John...." Alex > >St. Clair witness. > > > >It seems to me that somewhere along the line there was a relationship > >suggested, and that one of the Pattons shipped many people from Ireland, > >including he Breckenridges. Alexander Breckenridge's wife's maiden name is > >possibly Preston although I have also seen it as Patton. > > > >Pat > > > >At 08:58 AM 5/9/2004, Lyndon and Gay Nix wrote: > >>Deborah, > >>I only have information on James Patton. > >>I also had Hounshell family from Wythe County. > >>I went on a 3 week research trip there and Pulaski, Montgomery and all the > >>connecting counties plus Augusta County, that is beautiful country, got > >>visit Tinkling Springs cemetery. > >>I visited the William Preston home which sets on the collage campus and the > >>grave yard, so much history in the area. > >>James was the son of Henry and brother to John. > >> > >> Gay Nix > >> > >> > >> >Hello, > >> > > >> >I came through John Patton and Agnes Snodgrass daughter Agnes"Annie" who > >> >married William Patterson and their daughter Nancy who married Esq.George > >> >Josiah Reeder in Wythe Co., VA in 1818. Do you have any information on this > >> >line? Thank you. Your James is the son or brother of Henry? > >> >Deborah Ray Piper > >> >Spencer Co., IN > >> >[email protected] > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >From: "Lyndon and Gay Nix" <[email protected]> > >> >To: <[email protected]> > >> >Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 8:49 AM > >> >Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Henry Patton & Sarah Lynn > >> > > >> > > >> >> Deborah, > >> >> I am a descendant of James Patton through his daughter Mary who md William > >> >> Thompson. > >> >> Which one do you descend from? > >> >> James Patton as far as I know and from Patricia Givens Johnson the writer > >> >of > >> >> many books as shown on the Patton page never owned any Ships. > >> >> He was a sea captain and worked for Walter Lutwidge. > >> >> If you are from Col. James Patton then you need the soft cover book about > >> >> William Thompson she wrote. > >> >> Another item that is not correct and many people take the source from The > >> >> Family Tree by Mary Preston Gray is James married Mary Borden, > >> >> James md Mary Osborne. > >> >> There is no marriage record found for James Patton. > >> >> He lived in Whitehaven where he was a employee for Lutwidge. > >> >> As you notice source says married about, meaning they didn't find a > >> >marriage > >> >> and guessing at the date. > >> >> William and Mary(Patton) Thompson had son Henry who named a son Osbourne. > >> >> Most of the other information is correct and I am very proud of being a > >> >> descendant of this man who helped build America. > >> >> I don't believe that Mary (Osborn) was born in Augusta Co, Va. > >> >> I haven't had a chance to go through all that was on that Patton page so > >> >> there may be some other corrections. > >> >> That is why we have to go over the research others have done to make sure > >> >we > >> >> get our family tree correct. > >> >> It is a good place to start and very helpful in ones research. > >> >> Get back with me on how do you connect to James Patton? > >> >> > >> >> Gay Nix > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Wow, thanks George this is my line... > >> >> > > >> >> >Deborah Ray Piper > >> >> >Spencer Co., IN > >> >> >[email protected] > >> >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >> >From: <[email protected]> > >> >> >To: <[email protected]> > >> >> >Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 6:45 PM > >> >> >Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Henry Patton & Sarah Lynn > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >> have you seen this web page? > >> >> >> http://lady3248.tripod.com/jamespatton1692.htm > >> >> >> > >> >> >> this might get you some good info > >> >> >> > >> >> >> George young > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > >> >> >> **************************************************************** > >> >> >> List Administrator > >> >> >> Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > >> >> >> **************************************************************** > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > >> >> >**************************************************************** > >> >> >List Administrator > >> >> >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > >> >> >**************************************************************** > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > >> >> **************************************************************** > >> >> List Administrator > >> >> Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > >> >> **************************************************************** > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > >> >**************************************************************** > >> >List Administrator > >> >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > >> >**************************************************************** > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >>==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > >>**************************************************************** > >>List Administrator > >>Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > >>**************************************************************** > > > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > >**************************************************************** > >List Administrator > >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > >**************************************************************** > > > > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > ****************************************************************

Thank you very much for your reply. Now can you tell me where you got the information about Letitia and Jane? I would really appreciate it. Pat At 11:49 AM 5/9/2004, Lyndon and Gay Nix wrote: >Pat, >Letitia Preston the daughter of John Preston and Elizabeth Patton who was >born ca 1725/28 married Col. Robert Breckenridge. >Alexander Breckenridge md Jane Preston she was the sister of John Preston. >James Patton brought these people to help settle the grant he had in Augusta >Co, Va. > Gay Nix > > > > > >In regard to James and Henry Patton, has anyone discovered a relationship > >to the Alexander Breckenridge family? I have always felt there was in > some way. > > > >I have the following notes in my genealogy database, if it is of interested > >to anyone. > > > >TODO: Chalkleys vol. 1 page 419 County court judgements June, 1803 (I to > >Z): suit Mathew Patton vs. Archibald Thompson - defendant, servant of > >plaintiff, had enlisted as a solder under Capt. Gibson. Talks about > >William Patton, John Patton and James Patton one of whom possibly married > >Mary Briscoe in Carickafodan 1741 in parish of Donagh, Donegal, Ireland by > >Rev. Thomas Shawbridge. Also mentions Tulanree parish of Donagh, > >Donegal. Bill states that James is only son and heir of John who was only > >son and heir of William. William left them in Ireland in 1741. See if any > >information about this family in Ireland. Look for Breckenridges in same > >area. > > > >Further information: Will of William Patton dated 5 March 1793, he states > >that he married Mary Beaty, daughter of Alexander Beaty of the parish of > >Donnagh in the county of "Dunnigall" "sometime in the year of our Lord one > >thousand seven hundred and forty. I had one son John which wife and son I > >left in Ireland about one year after my marriage aforesaid and whereas I > >have been informed that my said wife Mary is now dead,...I give and > >bequeath the whole of the remainder of my estate to my son John...." Alex > >St. Clair witness. > > > >It seems to me that somewhere along the line there was a relationship > >suggested, and that one of the Pattons shipped many people from Ireland, > >including he Breckenridges. Alexander Breckenridge's wife's maiden name is > >possibly Preston although I have also seen it as Patton. > > > >Pat > > > >At 08:58 AM 5/9/2004, Lyndon and Gay Nix wrote: > >>Deborah, > >>I only have information on James Patton. > >>I also had Hounshell family from Wythe County. > >>I went on a 3 week research trip there and Pulaski, Montgomery and all the > >>connecting counties plus Augusta County, that is beautiful country, got > >>visit Tinkling Springs cemetery. > >>I visited the William Preston home which sets on the collage campus and the > >>grave yard, so much history in the area. > >>James was the son of Henry and brother to John. > >> > >> Gay Nix > >> > >> > >> >Hello, > >> > > >> >I came through John Patton and Agnes Snodgrass daughter Agnes"Annie" who > >> >married William Patterson and their daughter Nancy who married Esq.George > >> >Josiah Reeder in Wythe Co., VA in 1818. Do you have any information > on this > >> >line? Thank you. Your James is the son or brother of Henry? > >> >Deborah Ray Piper > >> >Spencer Co., IN > >> >[email protected] > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >From: "Lyndon and Gay Nix" <[email protected]> > >> >To: <[email protected]> > >> >Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 8:49 AM > >> >Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Henry Patton & Sarah Lynn > >> > > >> > > >> >> Deborah, > >> >> I am a descendant of James Patton through his daughter Mary who md > William > >> >> Thompson. > >> >> Which one do you descend from? > >> >> James Patton as far as I know and from Patricia Givens Johnson the > writer > >> >of > >> >> many books as shown on the Patton page never owned any Ships. > >> >> He was a sea captain and worked for Walter Lutwidge. > >> >> If you are from Col. James Patton then you need the soft cover book > about > >> >> William Thompson she wrote. > >> >> Another item that is not correct and many people take the source > from The > >> >> Family Tree by Mary Preston Gray is James married Mary Borden, > >> >> James md Mary Osborne. > >> >> There is no marriage record found for James Patton. > >> >> He lived in Whitehaven where he was a employee for Lutwidge. > >> >> As you notice source says married about, meaning they didn't find a > >> >marriage > >> >> and guessing at the date. > >> >> William and Mary(Patton) Thompson had son Henry who named a son > Osbourne. > >> >> Most of the other information is correct and I am very proud of being a > >> >> descendant of this man who helped build America. > >> >> I don't believe that Mary (Osborn) was born in Augusta Co, Va. > >> >> I haven't had a chance to go through all that was on that Patton > page so > >> >> there may be some other corrections. > >> >> That is why we have to go over the research others have done to > make sure > >> >we > >> >> get our family tree correct. > >> >> It is a good place to start and very helpful in ones research. > >> >> Get back with me on how do you connect to James Patton? > >> >> > >> >> Gay Nix > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Wow, thanks George this is my line... > >> >> > > >> >> >Deborah Ray Piper > >> >> >Spencer Co., IN > >> >> >[email protected] > >> >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >> >From: <[email protected]> > >> >> >To: <[email protected]> > >> >> >Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 6:45 PM > >> >> >Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Henry Patton & Sarah Lynn > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >> have you seen this web page? > >> >> >> http://lady3248.tripod.com/jamespatton1692.htm > >> >> >> > >> >> >> this might get you some good info > >> >> >> > >> >> >> George young > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > >> >> >> **************************************************************** > >> >> >> List Administrator > >> >> >> Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > >> >> >> **************************************************************** > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > >> >> >**************************************************************** > >> >> >List Administrator > >> >> >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > >> >> >**************************************************************** > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > >> >> **************************************************************** > >> >> List Administrator > >> >> Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > >> >> **************************************************************** > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > >> >**************************************************************** > >> >List Administrator > >> >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > >> >**************************************************************** > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >>==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > >>**************************************************************** > >>List Administrator > >>Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > >>**************************************************************** > > > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > >**************************************************************** > >List Administrator > >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > >**************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >****************************************************************

From the book The Prestons of Smithfield and Greenfield In Virginia. By John Fredrick Dorman. >Thank you very much for your reply. Now can you tell me where you got the >information about Letitia and Jane? I would really appreciate it. > >Pat > >At 11:49 AM 5/9/2004, Lyndon and Gay Nix wrote: >>Pat, >>Letitia Preston the daughter of John Preston and Elizabeth Patton who was >>born ca 1725/28 married Col. Robert Breckenridge. >>Alexander Breckenridge md Jane Preston she was the sister of John Preston. >>James Patton brought these people to help settle the grant he had in Augusta >>Co, Va. >> Gay Nix >> >> >> >> >> >In regard to James and Henry Patton, has anyone discovered a relationship >> >to the Alexander Breckenridge family? I have always felt there was in >> some way. >> > >> >I have the following notes in my genealogy database, if it is of interested >> >to anyone. >> > >> >TODO: Chalkleys vol. 1 page 419 County court judgements June, 1803 (I to >> >Z): suit Mathew Patton vs. Archibald Thompson - defendant, servant of >> >plaintiff, had enlisted as a solder under Capt. Gibson. Talks about >> >William Patton, John Patton and James Patton one of whom possibly married >> >Mary Briscoe in Carickafodan 1741 in parish of Donagh, Donegal, Ireland by >> >Rev. Thomas Shawbridge. Also mentions Tulanree parish of Donagh, >> >Donegal. Bill states that James is only son and heir of John who was only >> >son and heir of William. William left them in Ireland in 1741. See if any >> >information about this family in Ireland. Look for Breckenridges in same >> >area. >> > >> >Further information: Will of William Patton dated 5 March 1793, he states >> >that he married Mary Beaty, daughter of Alexander Beaty of the parish of >> >Donnagh in the county of "Dunnigall" "sometime in the year of our Lord one >> >thousand seven hundred and forty. I had one son John which wife and son I >> >left in Ireland about one year after my marriage aforesaid and whereas I >> >have been informed that my said wife Mary is now dead,...I give and >> >bequeath the whole of the remainder of my estate to my son John...." Alex >> >St. Clair witness. >> > >> >It seems to me that somewhere along the line there was a relationship >> >suggested, and that one of the Pattons shipped many people from Ireland, >> >including he Breckenridges. Alexander Breckenridge's wife's maiden name is >> >possibly Preston although I have also seen it as Patton. >> > >> >Pat >> > >> >At 08:58 AM 5/9/2004, Lyndon and Gay Nix wrote: >> >>Deborah, >> >>I only have information on James Patton. >> >>I also had Hounshell family from Wythe County. >> >>I went on a 3 week research trip there and Pulaski, Montgomery and all the >> >>connecting counties plus Augusta County, that is beautiful country, got >> >>visit Tinkling Springs cemetery. >> >>I visited the William Preston home which sets on the collage campus and the >> >>grave yard, so much history in the area. >> >>James was the son of Henry and brother to John. >> >> >> >> Gay Nix >> >> >> >> >> >> >Hello, >> >> > >> >> >I came through John Patton and Agnes Snodgrass daughter Agnes"Annie" who >> >> >married William Patterson and their daughter Nancy who married Esq.George >> >> >Josiah Reeder in Wythe Co., VA in 1818. Do you have any information >> on this >> >> >line? Thank you. Your James is the son or brother of Henry? >> >> >Deborah Ray Piper >> >> >Spencer Co., IN >> >> >[email protected] >> >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >> >From: "Lyndon and Gay Nix" <[email protected]> >> >> >To: <[email protected]> >> >> >Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 8:49 AM >> >> >Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Henry Patton & Sarah Lynn >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Deborah, >> >> >> I am a descendant of James Patton through his daughter Mary who md >> William >> >> >> Thompson. >> >> >> Which one do you descend from? >> >> >> James Patton as far as I know and from Patricia Givens Johnson the >> writer >> >> >of >> >> >> many books as shown on the Patton page never owned any Ships. >> >> >> He was a sea captain and worked for Walter Lutwidge. >> >> >> If you are from Col. James Patton then you need the soft cover book >> about >> >> >> William Thompson she wrote. >> >> >> Another item that is not correct and many people take the source >> from The >> >> >> Family Tree by Mary Preston Gray is James married Mary Borden, >> >> >> James md Mary Osborne. >> >> >> There is no marriage record found for James Patton. >> >> >> He lived in Whitehaven where he was a employee for Lutwidge. >> >> >> As you notice source says married about, meaning they didn't find a >> >> >marriage >> >> >> and guessing at the date. >> >> >> William and Mary(Patton) Thompson had son Henry who named a son >> Osbourne. >> >> >> Most of the other information is correct and I am very proud of being a >> >> >> descendant of this man who helped build America. >> >> >> I don't believe that Mary (Osborn) was born in Augusta Co, Va. >> >> >> I haven't had a chance to go through all that was on that Patton >> page so >> >> >> there may be some other corrections. >> >> >> That is why we have to go over the research others have done to >> make sure >> >> >we >> >> >> get our family tree correct. >> >> >> It is a good place to start and very helpful in ones research. >> >> >> Get back with me on how do you connect to James Patton? >> >> >> >> >> >> Gay Nix >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Wow, thanks George this is my line... >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Deborah Ray Piper >> >> >> >Spencer Co., IN >> >> >> >[email protected] >> >> >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >From: <[email protected]> >> >> >> >To: <[email protected]> >> >> >> >Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 6:45 PM >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Henry Patton & Sarah Lynn >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> have you seen this web page? >> >> >> >> http://lady3248.tripod.com/jamespatton1692.htm >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> this might get you some good info >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> George young >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >> >> >> >> **************************************************************** >> >> >> >> List Administrator >> >> >> >> Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >> >> >> >> **************************************************************** >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >> >> >> >**************************************************************** >> >> >> >List Administrator >> >> >> >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >> >> >> >**************************************************************** >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >> >> >> **************************************************************** >> >> >> List Administrator >> >> >> Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >> >> >> **************************************************************** >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >> >> >**************************************************************** >> >> >List Administrator >> >> >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >> >> >**************************************************************** >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >> >>**************************************************************** >> >>List Administrator >> >>Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >> >>**************************************************************** >> > >> > >> >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >> >**************************************************************** >> >List Administrator >> >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >> >**************************************************************** >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >>==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >>**************************************************************** >>List Administrator >>Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >>**************************************************************** > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >**************************************************************** > > >

In regard to James and Henry Patton, has anyone discovered a relationship to the Alexander Breckenridge family? I have always felt there was in some way. I have the following notes in my genealogy database, if it is of interested to anyone. TODO: Chalkleys vol. 1 page 419 County court judgements June, 1803 (I to Z): suit Mathew Patton vs. Archibald Thompson - defendant, servant of plaintiff, had enlisted as a solder under Capt. Gibson. Talks about William Patton, John Patton and James Patton one of whom possibly married Mary Briscoe in Carickafodan 1741 in parish of Donagh, Donegal, Ireland by Rev. Thomas Shawbridge. Also mentions Tulanree parish of Donagh, Donegal. Bill states that James is only son and heir of John who was only son and heir of William. William left them in Ireland in 1741. See if any information about this family in Ireland. Look for Breckenridges in same area. Further information: Will of William Patton dated 5 March 1793, he states that he married Mary Beaty, daughter of Alexander Beaty of the parish of Donnagh in the county of "Dunnigall" "sometime in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and forty. I had one son John which wife and son I left in Ireland about one year after my marriage aforesaid and whereas I have been informed that my said wife Mary is now dead,...I give and bequeath the whole of the remainder of my estate to my son John...." Alex St. Clair witness. It seems to me that somewhere along the line there was a relationship suggested, and that one of the Pattons shipped many people from Ireland, including he Breckenridges. Alexander Breckenridge's wife's maiden name is possibly Preston although I have also seen it as Patton. Pat At 08:58 AM 5/9/2004, Lyndon and Gay Nix wrote: >Deborah, >I only have information on James Patton. >I also had Hounshell family from Wythe County. >I went on a 3 week research trip there and Pulaski, Montgomery and all the >connecting counties plus Augusta County, that is beautiful country, got >visit Tinkling Springs cemetery. >I visited the William Preston home which sets on the collage campus and the >grave yard, so much history in the area. >James was the son of Henry and brother to John. > > Gay Nix > > > >Hello, > > > >I came through John Patton and Agnes Snodgrass daughter Agnes"Annie" who > >married William Patterson and their daughter Nancy who married Esq.George > >Josiah Reeder in Wythe Co., VA in 1818. Do you have any information on this > >line? Thank you. Your James is the son or brother of Henry? > >Deborah Ray Piper > >Spencer Co., IN > >[email protected] > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Lyndon and Gay Nix" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 8:49 AM > >Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Henry Patton & Sarah Lynn > > > > > >> Deborah, > >> I am a descendant of James Patton through his daughter Mary who md William > >> Thompson. > >> Which one do you descend from? > >> James Patton as far as I know and from Patricia Givens Johnson the writer > >of > >> many books as shown on the Patton page never owned any Ships. > >> He was a sea captain and worked for Walter Lutwidge. > >> If you are from Col. James Patton then you need the soft cover book about > >> William Thompson she wrote. > >> Another item that is not correct and many people take the source from The > >> Family Tree by Mary Preston Gray is James married Mary Borden, > >> James md Mary Osborne. > >> There is no marriage record found for James Patton. > >> He lived in Whitehaven where he was a employee for Lutwidge. > >> As you notice source says married about, meaning they didn't find a > >marriage > >> and guessing at the date. > >> William and Mary(Patton) Thompson had son Henry who named a son Osbourne. > >> Most of the other information is correct and I am very proud of being a > >> descendant of this man who helped build America. > >> I don't believe that Mary (Osborn) was born in Augusta Co, Va. > >> I haven't had a chance to go through all that was on that Patton page so > >> there may be some other corrections. > >> That is why we have to go over the research others have done to make sure > >we > >> get our family tree correct. > >> It is a good place to start and very helpful in ones research. > >> Get back with me on how do you connect to James Patton? > >> > >> Gay Nix > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >Wow, thanks George this is my line... > >> > > >> >Deborah Ray Piper > >> >Spencer Co., IN > >> >[email protected] > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >From: <[email protected]> > >> >To: <[email protected]> > >> >Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 6:45 PM > >> >Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Henry Patton & Sarah Lynn > >> > > >> > > >> >> have you seen this web page? > >> >> http://lady3248.tripod.com/jamespatton1692.htm > >> >> > >> >> this might get you some good info > >> >> > >> >> George young > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > >> >> **************************************************************** > >> >> List Administrator > >> >> Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > >> >> **************************************************************** > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > >> >**************************************************************** > >> >List Administrator > >> >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > >> >**************************************************************** > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > >> **************************************************************** > >> List Administrator > >> Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > >> **************************************************************** > >> > >> > > > > > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > >**************************************************************** > >List Administrator > >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > >**************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >****************************************************************

In a message dated 5/8/2004 9:23:01 PM US Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Thanks Norma, Now to try and prove this is my John Keener. I had the wife as Mary Harris but no dates or locations. And to JOHN, I haven't heard of that book. Does it include an Ulrich Keener/Keiner/various spellings? If it does we may have the right family. You are right about one thing, the Keener's named all their children from the same list of names almost. One of the original immigrants Ulrich Keener did settle in Lancaster County, PA. before moving to Virginia. The other Adam Keener stayed in the Lancaster and York areas of PA I appreciate the information from both of you. Lynda Lynda, maybe Mary Harris was an ealier marriage or a later one Norma

April 1738 Patton to take passengers at Dublin for Virginia, Maryland, and Pennsylvania, those for Pennsylvania to land at Bohemia landing or Elk River. Emigrants were to contact Patton's agents at various places in Ireland. John Preston and Collin Campbell were his agents in Derry. Cleared customs at Whitehaven on March 16, 1738. Dublin newspaper. The Walpoole sailed to Dublin and stayed there several weeks taken on passengers then went to Lough Swilly, a bay reaching into County Donegal. Patton had agents at Rathmullen and Rathmelton two towns on Lough Swilly near Kilmacrenan, home of the Patton family. John Preston at Londonderry was recruiting and brought his wife Elizabeth Patton Preston, their son William Preston and daughters. With 65 passengers the Walpoole reached Virginia August 23, 1738. Patton established his family, friends and servants on the Beverly Manor grant on Shenandoah. Patton had 15 indentured servants belonging to Lutwidge. In 1737-38 the Beverly Manor settlers ask Donegal Presbytery to send food. Source: Springfield Saga The Thompsons of Fort Thompson On New River Pulaski County, Virginia By Patricia Givens Johnson.

where did you see those folks? I have lots of McClungs & McCouns. sorry I dont think I can help George

Pat, Letitia Preston the daughter of John Preston and Elizabeth Patton who was born ca 1725/28 married Col. Robert Breckenridge. Alexander Breckenridge md Jane Preston she was the sister of John Preston. James Patton brought these people to help settle the grant he had in Augusta Co, Va. Gay Nix >In regard to James and Henry Patton, has anyone discovered a relationship >to the Alexander Breckenridge family? I have always felt there was in some way. > >I have the following notes in my genealogy database, if it is of interested >to anyone. > >TODO: Chalkleys vol. 1 page 419 County court judgements June, 1803 (I to >Z): suit Mathew Patton vs. Archibald Thompson - defendant, servant of >plaintiff, had enlisted as a solder under Capt. Gibson. Talks about >William Patton, John Patton and James Patton one of whom possibly married >Mary Briscoe in Carickafodan 1741 in parish of Donagh, Donegal, Ireland by >Rev. Thomas Shawbridge. Also mentions Tulanree parish of Donagh, >Donegal. Bill states that James is only son and heir of John who was only >son and heir of William. William left them in Ireland in 1741. See if any >information about this family in Ireland. Look for Breckenridges in same >area. > >Further information: Will of William Patton dated 5 March 1793, he states >that he married Mary Beaty, daughter of Alexander Beaty of the parish of >Donnagh in the county of "Dunnigall" "sometime in the year of our Lord one >thousand seven hundred and forty. I had one son John which wife and son I >left in Ireland about one year after my marriage aforesaid and whereas I >have been informed that my said wife Mary is now dead,...I give and >bequeath the whole of the remainder of my estate to my son John...." Alex >St. Clair witness. > >It seems to me that somewhere along the line there was a relationship >suggested, and that one of the Pattons shipped many people from Ireland, >including he Breckenridges. Alexander Breckenridge's wife's maiden name is >possibly Preston although I have also seen it as Patton. > >Pat > >At 08:58 AM 5/9/2004, Lyndon and Gay Nix wrote: >>Deborah, >>I only have information on James Patton. >>I also had Hounshell family from Wythe County. >>I went on a 3 week research trip there and Pulaski, Montgomery and all the >>connecting counties plus Augusta County, that is beautiful country, got >>visit Tinkling Springs cemetery. >>I visited the William Preston home which sets on the collage campus and the >>grave yard, so much history in the area. >>James was the son of Henry and brother to John. >> >> Gay Nix >> >> >> >Hello, >> > >> >I came through John Patton and Agnes Snodgrass daughter Agnes"Annie" who >> >married William Patterson and their daughter Nancy who married Esq.George >> >Josiah Reeder in Wythe Co., VA in 1818. Do you have any information on this >> >line? Thank you. Your James is the son or brother of Henry? >> >Deborah Ray Piper >> >Spencer Co., IN >> >[email protected] >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: "Lyndon and Gay Nix" <[email protected]> >> >To: <[email protected]> >> >Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 8:49 AM >> >Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Henry Patton & Sarah Lynn >> > >> > >> >> Deborah, >> >> I am a descendant of James Patton through his daughter Mary who md William >> >> Thompson. >> >> Which one do you descend from? >> >> James Patton as far as I know and from Patricia Givens Johnson the writer >> >of >> >> many books as shown on the Patton page never owned any Ships. >> >> He was a sea captain and worked for Walter Lutwidge. >> >> If you are from Col. James Patton then you need the soft cover book about >> >> William Thompson she wrote. >> >> Another item that is not correct and many people take the source from The >> >> Family Tree by Mary Preston Gray is James married Mary Borden, >> >> James md Mary Osborne. >> >> There is no marriage record found for James Patton. >> >> He lived in Whitehaven where he was a employee for Lutwidge. >> >> As you notice source says married about, meaning they didn't find a >> >marriage >> >> and guessing at the date. >> >> William and Mary(Patton) Thompson had son Henry who named a son Osbourne. >> >> Most of the other information is correct and I am very proud of being a >> >> descendant of this man who helped build America. >> >> I don't believe that Mary (Osborn) was born in Augusta Co, Va. >> >> I haven't had a chance to go through all that was on that Patton page so >> >> there may be some other corrections. >> >> That is why we have to go over the research others have done to make sure >> >we >> >> get our family tree correct. >> >> It is a good place to start and very helpful in ones research. >> >> Get back with me on how do you connect to James Patton? >> >> >> >> Gay Nix >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Wow, thanks George this is my line... >> >> > >> >> >Deborah Ray Piper >> >> >Spencer Co., IN >> >> >[email protected] >> >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >> >From: <[email protected]> >> >> >To: <[email protected]> >> >> >Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 6:45 PM >> >> >Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Henry Patton & Sarah Lynn >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> have you seen this web page? >> >> >> http://lady3248.tripod.com/jamespatton1692.htm >> >> >> >> >> >> this might get you some good info >> >> >> >> >> >> George young >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >> >> >> **************************************************************** >> >> >> List Administrator >> >> >> Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >> >> >> **************************************************************** >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >> >> >**************************************************************** >> >> >List Administrator >> >> >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >> >> >**************************************************************** >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >> >> **************************************************************** >> >> List Administrator >> >> Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >> >> **************************************************************** >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >> >**************************************************************** >> >List Administrator >> >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >> >**************************************************************** >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >>==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >>**************************************************************** >>List Administrator >>Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >>**************************************************************** > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >**************************************************************** > > >

Deborah, I only have information on James Patton. I also had Hounshell family from Wythe County. I went on a 3 week research trip there and Pulaski, Montgomery and all the connecting counties plus Augusta County, that is beautiful country, got visit Tinkling Springs cemetery. I visited the William Preston home which sets on the collage campus and the grave yard, so much history in the area. James was the son of Henry and brother to John. Gay Nix >Hello, > >I came through John Patton and Agnes Snodgrass daughter Agnes"Annie" who >married William Patterson and their daughter Nancy who married Esq.George >Josiah Reeder in Wythe Co., VA in 1818. Do you have any information on this >line? Thank you. Your James is the son or brother of Henry? >Deborah Ray Piper >Spencer Co., IN >[email protected] >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Lyndon and Gay Nix" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 8:49 AM >Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Henry Patton & Sarah Lynn > > >> Deborah, >> I am a descendant of James Patton through his daughter Mary who md William >> Thompson. >> Which one do you descend from? >> James Patton as far as I know and from Patricia Givens Johnson the writer >of >> many books as shown on the Patton page never owned any Ships. >> He was a sea captain and worked for Walter Lutwidge. >> If you are from Col. James Patton then you need the soft cover book about >> William Thompson she wrote. >> Another item that is not correct and many people take the source from The >> Family Tree by Mary Preston Gray is James married Mary Borden, >> James md Mary Osborne. >> There is no marriage record found for James Patton. >> He lived in Whitehaven where he was a employee for Lutwidge. >> As you notice source says married about, meaning they didn't find a >marriage >> and guessing at the date. >> William and Mary(Patton) Thompson had son Henry who named a son Osbourne. >> Most of the other information is correct and I am very proud of being a >> descendant of this man who helped build America. >> I don't believe that Mary (Osborn) was born in Augusta Co, Va. >> I haven't had a chance to go through all that was on that Patton page so >> there may be some other corrections. >> That is why we have to go over the research others have done to make sure >we >> get our family tree correct. >> It is a good place to start and very helpful in ones research. >> Get back with me on how do you connect to James Patton? >> >> Gay Nix >> >> >> >> >> >Wow, thanks George this is my line... >> > >> >Deborah Ray Piper >> >Spencer Co., IN >> >[email protected] >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: <[email protected]> >> >To: <[email protected]> >> >Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 6:45 PM >> >Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Henry Patton & Sarah Lynn >> > >> > >> >> have you seen this web page? >> >> http://lady3248.tripod.com/jamespatton1692.htm >> >> >> >> this might get you some good info >> >> >> >> George young >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >> >> **************************************************************** >> >> List Administrator >> >> Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >> >> **************************************************************** >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >> >**************************************************************** >> >List Administrator >> >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >> >**************************************************************** >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >> **************************************************************** >> List Administrator >> Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >> **************************************************************** >> >> > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >**************************************************************** > > >

George, I noticed you said you had lots of info on McCunes so thought I'd see if you could possibly have information on the parents and siblings of a Sarah McCune (1708-1760) who married James McElroy. They came to America from Northern Ireland with the McDowells, Irvines, McCunes, Clintons and others in 1729. I have McElroys well documented but have not had much luck with the McCune line. Sarah is my 5G Grandmother. Any help would be appreciated. Pat

In a message dated 5/8/2004 12:00:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > http://www.immigrantships.net/index.html > Mike, thank you for pushing me to go back to this site , I lucked out, found my great grandparent on the ship Manhattan.. been looking for a bout 30 years., We own so much to these persons willing to transcribe these lists , which are unindexed for us to prowl thru. Elizabeth