Susan, This is a bit off topic, but is the Greenhill Cemetery you mention the one in Churchville? If so, do you have any type of overall listing for those buried there? Michael Sellers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] birth records > Don't know if this is your line but I do have a cemetery listing for a ; > William Harvey McClung b. Jun 27, 1826 d. Oct 19, 1864 buried Rocky > Spring Presby Church, Deerfield, Va. > He is the only McClung that I have listed as being buried there. > I have one Houston P. McClung for Greenhill Cemetery but his birth date is > in the 1870's. > > Susan/Augusta Co. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 11:54 PM > Subject: [VAAUGUST] birth records > > > > Can someone tell me whether any birth records from the 1810 period for > > Augusta County exist? I have been trying for nearly two years to find the > parents > > of Charles McClung, b. abt. 1810, married Sarah Gabbart in 1834. They had > > three children in Augusta County before relocating to Harrison County, > VA/WV where > > they appear in the 1840 census records. > > > > Charles died in Harrison County in 1868 at the age of 58. Parents names > were > > listed as "unknown." We were thinking that it have been possible that his > > parents died and he was brought up by someone else. > > > > We have looked everywhere we know to look and CANNOT find his parents > names. > > We have exhausted pretty much of all available resources and still no > names > > for his parents. > > > > Is there anyone on this list that can help me???? This has been a HUGE > brick > > wall and I know that someone out there has to know the answer that we are > > looking for. > > > > Anita McClung > > Fayette County, WV > > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > **************************************************************** > > List Administrator > > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > **************************************************************** > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** >

I have watched your multiple posts hoping I too could learn more about some McClungs. I do not know your answer. However, there is a moderately active Gabbert [Gabbart] list on the RootsWeb. Why don't you try there. If you learn anything, let us know. Juhling At 11:54 PM 6/8/2004 -0400, you wrote: >Can someone tell me whether any birth records from the 1810 period for >Augusta County exist? I have been trying for nearly two years to find the >parents >of Charles McClung, b. abt. 1810, married Sarah Gabbart in 1834. They had >three children in Augusta County before relocating to Harrison County, >VA/WV where >they appear in the 1840 census records. > >Charles died in Harrison County in 1868 at the age of 58. Parents names were >listed as "unknown." We were thinking that it have been possible that his >parents died and he was brought up by someone else. > >We have looked everywhere we know to look and CANNOT find his parents names. >We have exhausted pretty much of all available resources and still no names >for his parents. > >Is there anyone on this list that can help me???? This has been a HUGE brick >wall and I know that someone out there has to know the answer that we are >looking for. > >Anita McClung >Fayette County, WV > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >****************************************************************

do you have your family tree on the internet and if so how can i get to it? i am intrested in the bryants and thompsons. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb S." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 4:19 PM Subject: [VAAUGUST] Fwd: BRYANT-BRIANT > > >From: [email protected] > >X-WebTV-Signature: 1 > > ETAsAhQkYP1PYECxV8vsZkM+OM0O3cfdDwIUTphnfogmKFSPwblNYSc4uZKv9Ts= > >Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:49:50 -0500 (CDT) > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: BRYANT-BRIANT > > > >I'm looking for the above surnames in Augusta Co, VA -- specifically, a > >father for James T. BRIANT, b. 1790, VA. He m. Rachael ALDERSON in > >Botetourt Co, 1815. Please contact me if you are researching BRYANT or > >BRIANT or BRYANS. Thanks, Cousin Mary in OK > > > >Mary Bryant Park > >[email protected] > >BRYANT/BRIANT, DODD, ADAMSON, WINFREY, WILLIAMS, BASDEN, MCMECHAN, > >ALDERSON, SPILLERS, BOBO, COMBS, THOMPSON, TURPIN, SEABOLT > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** >

Anita - There are no birth/death records before mid-1853. Marriage records go back much further. I assume you've compiled some data on all the other McClungs who were in the area at the right time and who could be logical parents of Charles, given their ages. Have you checked the wills & probate & land records of all those McClungs? If anybody left anything to Charles or transferred land to him (and if you're lucky, specified a relationship), that's where it will be. These records are all available thru interlibrary loan from the Lib. of VA. Did any other McClungs appear to accompany him to Harrison co? That would be another avenue to follow. Another thing I would do is check the death records in Augusta of all the other McClungs of his generation (say born 1800-1820) to see if any of them have parents that you do not already know about, just to make sure you have a complete (as possible) pool of possible parents. --Holly ------------------- Holly Cochran - Hollyhock Press (publisher of Bath co VA area books) http://www.hollyhockpress.com/

Marriage Records were kept in Virginia before the 18th century. There is an excellent article about 18th Century Virginia Law at: http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/Virginia_Law.html This may answer some of your questions. Barb S. ---------- At 09:40 AM 6/9/04 -0400, you wrote: >Jim, > >I was afraid of that. I know they were not required to maintain records >until the 1850s, just thought that perhaps some of the counties did before. > >What is amazing is that you can find records for WV prior to statehood. I >know our court house have a book of marriages dating back to 1838. > >Strange how the counties that would later become WV have records prior to >1853. > >Thanks, >Anita McClung > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >****************************************************************

Hello. I'm reading these in order to aid my WEHRLY research. When you visit the courthouse in Staunton, could you see if there's a birth record for Samuel J. WEHRLY, born 24 Mar 1797? The surname may have been spelled differently in that area and time, once as Warley. If the record exists, I like to contact them to order a copy. Just need to know if one exists. Probable parents: John WARLEY/WEHRLY and Magdalena ACKER. Thanks, in advance. Russell H.. Sarver [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "sassypants" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 10:47 PM Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] birth records > The birth records of augusta county are in staunton,va at the augusta county > court house. I am going there in the next week or so and do some looking for > my self and i will be glad to look for you. you can also write them at > augusta county court house,johnson street. staunton,va.24401 and i know they > will look for you and make copies and send them to you for the price of > copies. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 11:54 PM > Subject: [VAAUGUST] birth records > > > > Can someone tell me whether any birth records from the 1810 period for > > Augusta County exist? I have been trying for nearly two years to find the > parents > > of Charles McClung, b. abt. 1810, married Sarah Gabbart in 1834. They had > > three children in Augusta County before relocating to Harrison County, > VA/WV where > > they appear in the 1840 census records. > > > > Charles died in Harrison County in 1868 at the age of 58. Parents names > were > > listed as "unknown." We were thinking that it have been possible that his > > parents died and he was brought up by someone else. > > > > We have looked everywhere we know to look and CANNOT find his parents > names. > > We have exhausted pretty much of all available resources and still no > names > > for his parents. > > > > Is there anyone on this list that can help me???? This has been a HUGE > brick > > wall and I know that someone out there has to know the answer that we are > > looking for. > > > > Anita McClung > > Fayette County, WV > > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > **************************************************************** > > List Administrator > > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > **************************************************************** > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** >

Jim, I was afraid of that. I know they were not required to maintain records until the 1850s, just thought that perhaps some of the counties did before. What is amazing is that you can find records for WV prior to statehood. I know our court house have a book of marriages dating back to 1838. Strange how the counties that would later become WV have records prior to 1853. Thanks, Anita McClung

Virginia started requiring that births and deaths be reported in 1853. No government records of births and deaths exist prior to that date. Sometimes it is possible to determine the father of a male from the personal property tax lists, which started in 1782. These lists were prepared each year for each county and city. Jim Messersmith Rockville, VA At 11:54 PM 6/8/2004 -0400, you wrote: >Can someone tell me whether any birth records from the 1810 period for >Augusta County exist? I have been trying for nearly two years to find the >parents >of Charles McClung, b. abt. 1810, married Sarah Gabbart in 1834. They had >three children in Augusta County before relocating to Harrison County, >VA/WV where >they appear in the 1840 census records. > >Charles died in Harrison County in 1868 at the age of 58. Parents names were >listed as "unknown." We were thinking that it have been possible that his >parents died and he was brought up by someone else. > >We have looked everywhere we know to look and CANNOT find his parents names. >We have exhausted pretty much of all available resources and still no names >for his parents. > >Is there anyone on this list that can help me???? This has been a HUGE brick >wall and I know that someone out there has to know the answer that we are >looking for. > >Anita McClung >Fayette County, WV

The birth records of augusta county are in staunton,va at the augusta county court house. I am going there in the next week or so and do some looking for my self and i will be glad to look for you. you can also write them at augusta county court house,johnson street. staunton,va.24401 and i know they will look for you and make copies and send them to you for the price of copies. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 11:54 PM Subject: [VAAUGUST] birth records > Can someone tell me whether any birth records from the 1810 period for > Augusta County exist? I have been trying for nearly two years to find the parents > of Charles McClung, b. abt. 1810, married Sarah Gabbart in 1834. They had > three children in Augusta County before relocating to Harrison County, VA/WV where > they appear in the 1840 census records. > > Charles died in Harrison County in 1868 at the age of 58. Parents names were > listed as "unknown." We were thinking that it have been possible that his > parents died and he was brought up by someone else. > > We have looked everywhere we know to look and CANNOT find his parents names. > We have exhausted pretty much of all available resources and still no names > for his parents. > > Is there anyone on this list that can help me???? This has been a HUGE brick > wall and I know that someone out there has to know the answer that we are > looking for. > > Anita McClung > Fayette County, WV > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** >

Can someone tell me whether any birth records from the 1810 period for Augusta County exist? I have been trying for nearly two years to find the parents of Charles McClung, b. abt. 1810, married Sarah Gabbart in 1834. They had three children in Augusta County before relocating to Harrison County, VA/WV where they appear in the 1840 census records. Charles died in Harrison County in 1868 at the age of 58. Parents names were listed as "unknown." We were thinking that it have been possible that his parents died and he was brought up by someone else. We have looked everywhere we know to look and CANNOT find his parents names. We have exhausted pretty much of all available resources and still no names for his parents. Is there anyone on this list that can help me???? This has been a HUGE brick wall and I know that someone out there has to know the answer that we are looking for. Anita McClung Fayette County, WV

Thank you, Barbara. Anita McClung

It stands for General Records Schedule National Archives and Records Administration General Records Schedule Genealogy http://www.archives.gov/research_room/genealogy/index.html ---------- >At 10:34 AM 6/7/04 -0400, you wrote: >Good morning everyone. > >I have been searching for a while the marriage records of Augusta County and >have came across GRS several times. > >February 13, 1812 >(although GRS gives the year of marriage as 1788?!!) > >What is GRS? > >Can someone tell me what this means? > >Anita McClung >Fayette County, WV > > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >****************************************************************

Good morning everyone. I have been searching for a while the marriage records of Augusta County and have came across GRS several times. February 13, 1812 (although GRS gives the year of marriage as 1788?!!) What is GRS? Can someone tell me what this means? Anita McClung Fayette County, WV

Barb, Thanks for the offer to help, but I had many responses to my problem and not only received the column headings, but actual blank census pages, as well. It was nice to see so many people willing to help. Anita

Thanks, Michael. I had tried to get a blank form from ancestry but I wasn''t able to pull one up. But, thanks to several very nice people I was not only able to get a blank page, but was also given the column headings, too. Again, thanks for the help. Anita

In a message dated 6/5/2004 1:22:11 PM US Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: The column headings are as follows: Age (0-under 10) age (10-under 16) age (16 - to under 26) age (26 - under 45) age ( 45 +) will be double vertical lines separating the males from the females same age groups for the females as the males hope this helps Norma Ooley Herman >Good morning. > >Question: Does anyone know how to read a census page from the 1820 census >records? There seem to be more columns but they don't appear to be >divided like >the columns of the later records. Plus, there are no headings and I cannot >get >a blank one to come up so that I can see how to read it. > >Any help would be a blessing. > >Anita McClung >Fayette County, WV

Tell me the name and the county and I will try to help. Barb S. ---------- At 09:59 AM 6/5/04 -0400, you wrote: >Good morning. > >Question: Does anyone know how to read a census page from the 1820 census >records? There seem to be more columns but they don't appear to be >divided like >the columns of the later records. Plus, there are no headings and I cannot >get >a blank one to come up so that I can see how to read it. > >Any help would be a blessing. > >Anita McClung >Fayette County, WV > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >****************************************************************

Thank you for that link. You were right. Interesting. Anita

This might be overkill but thought I would pass it along as well. You can go to http://www.ancestry.com/save/charts/census.htm for downloadable sample forms of the actual Census. Its on ancestry.com but is 100% FREE. You don't need a paid subscription to access them, but it does require that you have Adobe. The forms show all columns of information and all questions that were asked for each individual Census from 1790 - 1930. Hope that helps, Michael Sellers ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 7:20 AM Subject: [VAAUGUST] Re: Help with 1820 census--thanks everyone > Thank you everyone. You have all been so great. I had blank forms within > minutes of my posting my question. > > It does my heart good to know that we can all work together on this stuff. > > > Anita McClung > Fayette County, WV > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** > >

Thank you everyone. You have all been so great. I had blank forms within minutes of my posting my question. It does my heart good to know that we can all work together on this stuff. Anita McClung Fayette County, WV