I have a copy of a map of Borden's Grant that appears inside the cover of the book, Wear & Weir Families: From Here and There and to the White House by Jones and Spore. The map is hand drawn and shows the original owners of the tracts and the year of purchase. Some are difficult / impossible to read, but I will try to respond to anyone who requests a "look up." I will be out of town until next Sunday, so I may not be able to respond immediately.

Your surnames please! Thanks, Maggie Phillips

I have ancestors who purchased land in Augusta in 1742. They came from Ireland, but I do not know when / where or how they arrived. The deeds for early Augusta land owners in Borden's Grant (aka Scotch-Irish Settlement) can be found in Orange County, VA deed books. The land was in Orange County prior to the formation of Augusta.

My Valley Names are Frazier and Moody, also Gay. John Frazier married Isabella Moody in PA probably. Their children were born in VA and grew up there. John, Jr. married Jennett Gay and had some children. The oldest boy, Samuel took the family to Putnam County, WV by 1800. Isabella Moody's brothers James and Robert lived near the Fraziers on Cow Run. James had daughters, but Robert either didn't marry or had no children who lived to adulthood. Constance

Please let us know your family names! Thank you, Maggie Phillips

In a message dated 10/13/2004 7:52:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi, Has anyone on this list applied for membership to First Families of Augusta County, Virginia thru: Dr. Robert Addison Curry I, James Young and George Glenn? Thanks. Mary Lee Davis Marchi Gallia County, Ohio No, but I am directly descended through two out of three of these families...Dr. CURRY and James YOUNG. Please let me know what I must do! Mary Lee, I think you and I corresponded five or six years ago when I still lived in VA....we now live in FL. Looking forward to hearing from you! Hope all is well! Best regards, Maggie Phillips

Yes, my ancestors were in the Valley pre-1744. They came into Virginia from Pennsylvania ca 1735 and perhaps earlier. We know that the first property purchased from Beverly was paid off by 1740. Children were baptized by 1736-1739 according to the Tinkling Spring records. These folks were Scots-Irish and if you're familiar with those folks, they just didn't fit into the political situation already established by the Germans, Lutherans, Quakers, etc up in PA. Being a noisy, opinionated lot, they established a nice settlement for themselves in the Valley, bringing their religious beliefs there (Tinkling Spring Church.). I don't know what boat they arrived on. Boy, I wish I did. All I have is information from a law suit that says the parents of James, Robert and Isabella Moody were from Pennsylvania. Apparently they lived near some Brownlees, as the Brownlees testified they had know the older Moodys in Pennsylvania. I think the migration was probably MD-PA-VA-WV, but they might have come straight into PA through Philly and then to VA. Constance

I have WALKER, WALLACE, CAMPBELL, and MCKINNEY all in the valley before 1744. Peggy Hanes

Hi, Has anyone on this list applied for membership to First Families of Augusta County, Virginia thru: Dr. Robert Addison Curry I, James Young and George Glenn? Thanks. Mary Lee Davis Marchi Gallia County, Ohio

There was a group that came down from Pennsylvania. My family Alexander Breckenridge came from Bucks County, Pennsyylvania. You might try grantee/grantor indexes for that county. Pat At 05:33 PM 10/13/2004, you wrote: >Does anyone on the list descend from Augusta settlers that arrived pre-1744? > >If so; >Do you have a ship name and/or passenger list? > >Anyone with connections to the Bullpasture River area of present Highland >Co.? > > >My ancestor Richard BODKIN arrived on the Bullpasture River in 1743. >We are looking for any leads to help determine where he moved from. > >Has anyone had any success in researching Orange Co. records 1738-1745 >that apply to Augusta Co.? > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >****************************************************************

you might contact Alan Zacher <[email protected]> He has a Robert Wiley ancestor, and may be able to help you through his Wiley connections.

Does anyone on the list descend from Augusta settlers that arrived pre-1744? If so; Do you have a ship name and/or passenger list? Anyone with connections to the Bullpasture River area of present Highland Co.? My ancestor Richard BODKIN arrived on the Bullpasture River in 1743. We are looking for any leads to help determine where he moved from. Has anyone had any success in researching Orange Co. records 1738-1745 that apply to Augusta Co.?

While researching one of my McGlaughlin ancestors recently, I can across a Rev. War Pension Application in Bath County for John McGlaughlin where he stated he was born in Augusta County May 26, 1764. He later stated in the same application dated 1833 that part of Augusta was now Rockingham County. I have not been able to find his father. If anyone is researching this line and can give me a hint where to look next it would be greatly appreciated. He married Ann Wiley, daughter of Robert Wiley in 1790 in Augusta. I have their marriage bond, consent form and minister's return. No mention of who his father could have been. I have easy access to Augusta County courthouse. I have been to the Va. State Library and obtained his military records but still no mention of his father. Thank you in advance, Susie

Vince et al: Susan Shaner Trevey and David Berry are my gg grandparents. Susan did NOT marry twice. My Susan Shaner Trevey was the daughter of Andrew Trevey and Catherine Higgins. Susan Trevey Berry died 7 May 1868, about 32 years before her husband David Berry. Both are buried at Zion Lutheran Church which is located at: 297 ZION CHURCH ROAD WAYNESBORO VA 22980 540-943-3250 This is a couple miles north of Waynesboro just off Rockfish Road. The Susan Trevey who married Andrew McCartney was the daughter of Joseph Trevey and Susan Shaner. Susan Trevey McCartney and my Andrew Trevey were siblings. I do not know if Andrew McCartney was married twice or not. Jim Messersmith Rockville, VA At 12:25 PM 10/13/2004 , you wrote: >Hi, > >I have two questions... Anyone attached to: > >Susanna Shaner TREVEY, who married twice: > >1. David BERRY, and >2. Andrew Sr McCARTNEY > >One web reference says she was buried at the Zion Lutheran >Church in Augusta County, VA. > >Where is that? Directions? I live in nearby Nelson County. > >Do you know if McCARTNEYs, BERRYs, and TREVEYs are buried >there? > >Thanks, >Vince Summers > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >****************************************************************

Hi, I have two questions... Anyone attached to: Susanna Shaner TREVEY, who married twice: 1. David BERRY, and 2. Andrew Sr McCARTNEY One web reference says she was buried at the Zion Lutheran Church in Augusta County, VA. Where is that? Directions? I live in nearby Nelson County. Do you know if McCARTNEYs, BERRYs, and TREVEYs are buried there? Thanks, Vince Summers

What names are you researching in the Williams family? I am researching the John and Ambrose Williams families of Greenbrier, Augusta, and central WV. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Park" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 2:30 PM Subject: [VAAUGUST] BRIANT/BRYANT/BRYANS > Hi, I want to share information with other researchers of the above > names. I have quite a bit, but also need quite a bit, also. > Particularly I need parents for James T. BRIANT, b. 1790, VA. I know > that somewhere out there someone holds the key! Thanks, Cousin Mary in > OK > > WILLIAMS, BRYANT/BRIANT, ALDERSON, WINFREY, DODD, TURPIN, ADAMSON. All > VA & TN > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** > > >

> I believe that there is a possiblity that adeed might not be filed until > the property is sold outside the family; i.e., if son inherits and then son Scan the property tax book, if one exists ("land book" it's called, in Jefferson Co -- VA before 1863). In that county, they recorded changes in status in a remarks column, so owner is marked as deceased, property is marked as owned by heirs; the form of ownership is noted (in fee, dower, life), allowing you to deduce relationship and inheritance, notations about court cases affecting land &c. Many of these non-deed transfers show up. Even some of my "missing" deeds may be here (I am still sifting my collected data). In other words, an absolute gold mine, tedious but invaluable. The tax man was very thoro. I hope others are so lucky in other parts of Virginia.

I believe that there is a possiblity that adeed might not be filed until the property is sold outside the family; i.e., if son inherits and then son inheritsk etc. It is always necessary to check deed indexes. And yes, I have heard of deeds filed in other places. If the grantee lived in another county, there might be a copy of the deed in his home county. I have one family that lived in Bath, Augusta and Botetourt and never moved. This was due to county border changes. Pat At 03:51 PM 9/9/2004, [email protected] wrote: > > Rockingham County was formed in 1778. I checked the 1810 census records > > > >Rockingham. Do you think some the records for early 1800 may be there? > >You might want to keep an open mind & eye about where >the land records are. I have been struggling with >land records at the northern end of the valley, where >Frederick, Berkeley, Jefferson Cos have a long term >historical link. Not every deed record seems to be >in the county you think it should be in by calendar. >Also, there are deeds missing, and it appears that >some of them might be filed in the circuit court >(or whatever the wider-area court was called ca 1800-1820). > >I am not sure what the law was exactly about deeds, >and there are probably some deeds that are just unrecorded >or filed long after the actual transfer, but that I haven't >yet seen, nor have I looked at the deeds filed in the >higher level court yet. > >The process, from what I have seen of the court records, >suggests that everything passed thru a court at some point, >that during this early period there was no separate >recorder's office with notarized deeds and simplified >filing &c. The process is indistinguishable in those >northern counties from other civil-like (chancery &c) cases. > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >****************************************************************

Forgot to mention that was the Rockingham County 1810 census. I'll send the numbers if you need them. At 06:49 PM 9/9/2004, you wrote: >Based on a previous mis-spelling for his marriage, this John Warely is my >John or John George Wehrly. Thanks, again! >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Deb Wake" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 12:34 PM >Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Matching Land Records to Census Records, for a Name > > > > Rockingham County was formed in 1778. I checked the 1810 census records > > and did not find your Henry Wehrly; there was a John Warely and an Andrew > > Warely. I also checked but did not find anything in: Priode, Marguerite > > B.. Abstracts of Executor, Administrator, and Guardian Bonds of >Rockingham > > County Virginia 1778-1864. 1978. Reprint, Dayton, VA: > > Harrisonburg-Rockingham Historical Society, 1993. > > > > Deb Wake > > Richmond, VA > > > > > > At 01:13 PM 9/9/2004, you wrote: > > >Thank you. The county changes are something I need to explore - including > > >Rockingham. Do you think some the records for early 1800 may be there? > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Deb Wake" <[email protected]> > > >To: <[email protected]> > > >Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 5:02 AM > > >Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Matching Land Records to Census Records, for a >Name > > > > > > > > > > There is a North Mountain in Rockingham County--which used to be a >part of > > > > Augusta County--you may want to check there. > > > > > > > > Deb Wake > > > > Richmond, VA > > > > > > > > At 05:56 PM 9/8/2004, you wrote: > > > > >Query- I am researching WEHRLY over 4 generations, from Codorus >Township, > > > > >York County, PA to Augusta County, VA to Preble County, Ohio. My line >is > > > > >Dietrich WIERLY(aka Didier Verli in Alsace) in PA > John George > > > > >WIERLY(Jean Georg Verli in Alsace) in PA & VA>John George WEHRLY, Jr? >in > > > > >Augusta County, VA>Samuel J. WEHRLY in Augusta County(?), VA to >Preble > > > > >County, Ohio; between 1750 and 1830. > > > > > > > > > >John George, Jr(WARLEY) married Magdalena Aker in Augusta County, 28 >Mar > > > > >1796. I have him as born in Middlebrook, Agusta County in 1775. I >have > > > > >Magdalena Aker born 1775. If sources are correct, she died in 1850 >and is > > > > >buried in Preble County. Samuel J. WEHRLY was born 24 Mar 1797 in VA >and > > > > >moved to Preble County where he died 20 Jun 1886. > > > > > > > > > >I am trying to verify this line from Dietrich to Samuel J. and fill >in > > > > >some blanks. > > > > > > > > > >I have little more from Augusta County, except possibly "George >Wehrly" > > >in > > > > >Middlebrook Twp in the 1820 census. Is it possible to find land >records > > > > >through the Staunton Courthouse or elsewhere with this much >information? > > > > > > > > > >Their church affiliation in this era was German Baptist Brethren, or > > > > >possibly Mennonite. I am told a brother to J.G., Jr, Henry Wehrly, >who > > > > >died in 1822, had land near North Mountain. This land was probated >and > > > > >sold by 1830, the proceeds going to Henry's heirs. A Henry Wehrly >appears > > > > >on the same page as George Wehrly in the 1820 Census for Middlebrook >Twp. > > > > > > > > > >Russell H Sarver > > > > >Centerville, Ohio > > > > >[email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > > > >**************************************************************** > > > > >List Administrator > > > > >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > > > >**************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > > > **************************************************************** > > > > List Administrator > > > > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > > > **************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > >**************************************************************** > > >List Administrator > > >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > >**************************************************************** > > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > **************************************************************** > > List Administrator > > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > **************************************************************** > > > > > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >****************************************************************

> Rockingham County was formed in 1778. I checked the 1810 census records > >Rockingham. Do you think some the records for early 1800 may be there? You might want to keep an open mind & eye about where the land records are. I have been struggling with land records at the northern end of the valley, where Frederick, Berkeley, Jefferson Cos have a long term historical link. Not every deed record seems to be in the county you think it should be in by calendar. Also, there are deeds missing, and it appears that some of them might be filed in the circuit court (or whatever the wider-area court was called ca 1800-1820). I am not sure what the law was exactly about deeds, and there are probably some deeds that are just unrecorded or filed long after the actual transfer, but that I haven't yet seen, nor have I looked at the deeds filed in the higher level court yet. The process, from what I have seen of the court records, suggests that everything passed thru a court at some point, that during this early period there was no separate recorder's office with notarized deeds and simplified filing &c. The process is indistinguishable in those northern counties from other civil-like (chancery &c) cases.