I suspect that the most prevelent influx from the coast didn't make it into the Valley, though there are definate exceptions. Most of the early Augusta residents were Scotch-Irish or German by way of PA. I do believe that some of the Patton shipping was devoted to populate the large Patton-Lewis grants in Augusta. These grants required a certain amount of settlement for valadation. There were agents in N. Ireland that recruited emigrants. I had the opportunity to travel through Rockfish Gap many years ago. There is a gentle slope leading to it from the east. You top the Gap and the whole Staunton Valley spreads before you. It is gorgeous. The distance between the Gap and Staunton is not great, which accounts for the relationship between those areas. Sue in Newport Subject: [VAAUGUST] Rockfish Gap [was: Kincaid-Woods-Patton-Lewis etc.] > I'm curious about how Rockfish Gap contributed to early migration and > settlement in Augusta County. > I've seen a few Augusta County deeds in Chalkley in which the purchasers > were from Albemarle County. > 1. What percentage of these folks originally came up the Shenandoah Valley > from, say, Pennsylvania, then crossed over Rockfish Gap and settled in > Albemarle before moving back to Augusta County? That is how I interpret the > movement of the Woods family from Lancaster County, for example. > 2. What percentage of early settlers came first to Albemarle County via > coastal Virginia and then passed through Rockfish Gap to settle in Augusta > County? Weren't these more likely to have been English rather than > Scotch-Irish? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue/Alex" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:26 AM > Subject: [VAAUGUST] Kincaid-Woods-Patton-Lewis etc. > > > ... > > The Woods family came from Lancastor Co. PA to Albemarle Co. They brought > > with them friends and relatives. They settled near Rockfish Gap. This is > > the > > pass the present hwy from Charlotte to Staunton goes through. There was a > > great deal of movement between Rockfish Gap and surrounding Alb. Co. areas > > and Beverly Manor/Borden's track. So much so that the area must be > > considered as a whole. > ... > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** >

There were at least 2 James Thompsons in Greenbrier/Monroe Co. Capt. James gave up his post as he was leaving the area. I can't remember the date but believe it was prior to 1800. The other James married Sarah Kincaid 6 Feb. 1796. She is most likely the daughter of John & Ann Graham Kincaid. This couple can be traced from around the Union area to Anthony Creek to Muddy Creek. I am wondering how John Gray relates to the James Gray who married 29 Dec. 1793 Kitty Kincaid, dau. of Thomas & Mary Kincaid of Turkey Creek, Grbr./Monroe Co.? I believe this is Danne's line. Sue in Newport > Hi Gay: > > Amherst Co., and Albermarle Barracks. (Thanks to my correspondent Danee > Crouch, I have a copy of 'Amherst County, Virginia in the Revolution.' In > Albermarle Barracks, next tour drafted and marched against Cornwallis at > Petersburg. Claim for pension is allowed.')" > > I put James Thompson and family in or near Monroe Co., WVA because my > gt.gt. gd.fa. John Gray married James' daughter Susannah there in 1816.

As I said my info comes from internet sources so I can't vouch for it, though most seems well documented. My Patton material came from. http://lady3248.tripod.com/pattongenealogy I haven't seen the book. Does it shed light on who actually came with the Woods? Sue in Newport > Boy do you have that right. > Knew that James Patton was in the shipping business but didn't know Henry was. > Will you give me the source for that information. > > Have you seen the book The Family Of Ruth (Duncan) Kelly, who wrote about > the Woods of Lancaster Co, PA to Albemarle Co, Va. > > > > >So many of the early Augusta families are inter-related, studying one means > >studying all.

Hi Gay: My James Thompson was born 28 Jun 1759 in VA and died 14 Dec 1843 in Union Co., OH. He married Senior Temperance 'Tempe' (Mooney) 8 Jul 1783 in Northampton Parish, Louisa Co., VA. After her death he married Elizabeth Lazenbee in Union Co., OH. I believe James is the son of John Thompson, b. ca 1741 and Mary Berry. John baptized 20 Oct 1741 at St. Peter's Parish, New Kent, VA, and Mary baptized 19 Aug 1744 same place. I believe James was the son of George Thompson, who married Mary Pollard. George was a Constable 18 Jun1749 per a tax record in Northampton Parish, Goochland Co., VA. C.J. Emmons, the genealogist on our line, published his research in 'Some Descendants of the Revoluitionary War Soldier James Thompson' in which he says, and I quote: "According to family tradition, James was born near London, England and nothing is known of his parents. This does not agree with the history of Union Co., OH which says James was born in VA. His father, whose name was John, came to America before the French and Indian War and died in Virginia. James is said to be the only son. In his application for pension James states that in 1780 his home was in Amherst Co., VA. His father John lived there also. Several John Thompson's are found in VA during the years 1740-1800. A John Thompson of Amherst and Albermarle Counties signed a Religious Dissenters Petition in 1776. James was a Rev. War veteran, Private in Capt. Garland Burnley's Company of Col Francis Taylor's 6th Regiment of the VA line, also called a guard unit because they spent a lot of time guarding prisioners. Service is documented in both Amherst Co., and Albermarle Barracks. (Thanks to my correspondent Danee Crouch, I have a copy of 'Amherst County, Virginia in the Revolution.' In this work are extracts from the 'Lost Order' Book 1773-1782' by Lenora Higginbotham Sweeny, 1951, p 171 - Rev. War Soldiers who claimed pensions: 'Thompson, James of Union Co., OH, June 28, 1833, aged 73, enlisted Amherst Co., VA 1777 as a substitute; by occupation a weaver, private under Capt. G. Burley, Col. Francis Taylor, Major Roberts, Albermarle Barracks, next tour drafted and marched against Cornwallis at Petersburg. Claim for pension is allowed.')" I put James Thompson and family in or near Monroe Co., WVA because my gt.gt. gd.fa. John Gray married James' daughter Susannah there in 1816. I found a marriage record for James and Tempe dated 8 July 1783 in Louisa Co., VA. We know James' son John lived in or near Charlottesville. The Mormon IGI says the mc for them is on file at Richmond, VA (IGI batch 7203503, sheet 6, batch M504881; batch 7104924, sheet 42.) This is about all I have. Do we connect? John, Columbus, OH 08 AM 10/22/2004, you wrote: >John, >What time period do you have your James Thompson in Albemarle County? >What area do you have the Captain James Thompson? >William and Mary Thompson had son James who was a Captain. >Always interested in all these Thompsons since I have two Thompson lines in >the same area. > > Gay Nix

Thomas Dooley and his wife Elizabeth bought and sold land in Augusta County, VA. Augusta Co., VA Chalkley's Chronicles Vol 3, pp 520-529 Page 445.--Patent to Thomas ( ) Dooley, 3d August, 1771, part heretofore conveyed to William Smith, tract whereon Thomas now lives. This tract was later sold to Felix Gilbert. Anyone with any information on the Dooley family [or variant spellings of the surname] please contact me. Would love to find someone else working on this family with whom to exchange data. Other surnames that seem to be connected include: Beazley; Kirtley; Powell; Shifflett. Pat [email protected]

I'm curious about how Rockfish Gap contributed to early migration and settlement in Augusta County. I've seen a few Augusta County deeds in Chalkley in which the purchasers were from Albemarle County. 1. What percentage of these folks originally came up the Shenandoah Valley from, say, Pennsylvania, then crossed over Rockfish Gap and settled in Albemarle before moving back to Augusta County? That is how I interpret the movement of the Woods family from Lancaster County, for example. 2. What percentage of early settlers came first to Albemarle County via coastal Virginia and then passed through Rockfish Gap to settle in Augusta County? Weren't these more likely to have been English rather than Scotch-Irish? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue/Alex" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:26 AM Subject: [VAAUGUST] Kincaid-Woods-Patton-Lewis etc. ... > The Woods family came from Lancastor Co. PA to Albemarle Co. They brought > with them friends and relatives. They settled near Rockfish Gap. This is > the > pass the present hwy from Charlotte to Staunton goes through. There was a > great deal of movement between Rockfish Gap and surrounding Alb. Co. areas > and Beverly Manor/Borden's track. So much so that the area must be > considered as a whole. ...

Chuck, I do not believe that I said that I was related to any Woods. Bob Thompson

John, What time period do you have your James Thompson in Albemarle County? What area do you have the Captain James Thompson? William and Mary Thompson had son James who was a Captain. Always interested in all these Thompsons since I have two Thompson lines in the same area. Gay Nix >Hello All: > >I am tracking James Thompson & his wife Senior Temperance 'Tempe' (Mooney) >Thompson who lived in and around Augusta County. I have him in Albermarle >County and Louisa County, and most likely in Monroe & Greenbrier Counties >of WV. He came to Ohio in 1816 with my gt.gt.gd.fa. John Gray who was >married to James & Tempe's daughter Susannah. > >Sure would like to sort out the James Thompson's of that area. There was >also a Captain James Thompson there about the same time but am not sure >that is my James. > >John Gray, Columbus, OH > > > >At 04:14 PM 10/21/2004, you wrote: >>Mickey, >>John and Polly (Thompson) Caperton had a son Adam born ca 1753. >>I have Adam md to Elizabeth Miller a daughter of Jacob Miller Sr. and >>Elizabeth Fudge. >>I don't know about Alexander, he was a witness to a deed for John and Polly >>Caperton who purchased a tract of land in 1755 in the Beverly Manor tract of >>Augusta Co, Va. >> >>What do you know of Alexander Thompson? >>This makes me have two lines of Thompson in Augusta County. >>Who is John T. Thompson? Is he connected to Alexander? >> >> Gay Nix >> >> >> >> >Is John Caperton related to Hugh Adam Caperton b ca 1757? >> >Is John T Thompson b 1 Oct 1807 who married Elizabeth H Fudge in Alexander >>Thompson line? >> >These two lines interrelate with my Miller-Fudge-Tierney-Tool lines. All of >>Augusta CO. in the mid 1700"s. >> > >> >Mickey >> > >> > >> >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >> >**************************************************************** >> >List Administrator >> >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >> >**************************************************************** >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >>==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >>**************************************************************** >>List Administrator >>Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >>**************************************************************** > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >**************************************************************** > > >

Bob Thompson: How would you relate to the Woods? Thanks, Chuck Woods

Bob, In my database I have the following notes. I know they are long, but I think all of them are needed to explain the situation: In 1855, Alice submitted depositions to the United States Govenment, applyng for a pension as a widow of John Kincaid, soldier in the Revolutionary War. (See below) Their marriage is established in depositions dated 6 June 1842 . There are discrepancies as far as her age is concerned. She says she is 72 years old in 1842, which would make birth year 1740 and on 15 October 1855, she states she is 89 years old which would make the year 1766. This has to be approached from other angles. The photocopy of the document dated 6 June 1842 is extremely faint and hard to read, but in it she states that she is the widow of John Kinciad, a private in the war, that they were married in the County of Botetourt, and that he died on the 11 day of August 1833 and that she has remained a widow. The other document is easier to read: State of Virginia County of Alleghany On this 15th day of October, A.D. one thousand eight hundred & fifty five, personally appeared before me, a justice of the peace within & for the county & state aforesaid, Alice Kincaid, aged eighty nine years, a resident of Jackson's River, Alleghany County, in the state of Virginia, who being duly sworn according to law, declared that she is the widow or John Kincaid deceased, who was a soldier (in the Revolution) in the company commanded by Captain___ in the __Regiment of ___ commanded by ___ in the war of the Revolution that he said husband was a Revolutionary pensioner and she refers to his application for a pension, on file in the War Department, for an account of his services, as she cannot state whether her husband was drafted, enlisted or volunteered or the time or amount of services, but is satisfied he served more than 14 day in said War. She further refers to her own application for her pension, on file as aforesaid, for proof, that she is a pensioner--that she was married to the said John Kincaid and that she is now a widow. She further states that he was married to the said John Kincaid, in the county of Bath (SCRATCHED OUT AND Botetourt written in), state of Virginia, on the --- day of ___ A.D. by one ___ Alderson, a Presbyterian minister & that her name before her said marriage was Alice Dean, that her said husband died at her present place of residence, on the ___ date of ___ A.D., 1835 & that she is now a widow. She makes this declaration for the purpose of obtaining the bounty land to which she may be entitled under the act approved March 3, 1855. her Alice X Kincaid mark We, Thomas Mayes and Alexander Kincaid residents of Jacksons River County of Alleghany, in the state of Virginia upon our oaths declare that the foregoing declaration was signed and acknowledged by Alice Kincaid in our presence & that we believe, from the appearance of the statements of the applicant that she is the identical person she represents herself to be. We further state that John Kincaid dec'd & the said Alice Kincaid long resided together as husband & wife that they were reputed as such that the said John Kincaid is dead & and that the applicant is till a widow. Thomas Mayes Alexander M. Kincaid TODO: Try to find these service records. The file goes on to describe several tours of duty that John Kincaid served in state regiments, one commanded by Alexander Handly, volunteered to serve under Captain John Bollar, served under Colonel Thomas Preston and Major John Rowland, which joined the Main Army under the Command of General Green. These enlistments and services should be on record at the Library of Virginia. Where does Alcey or Ally Elliott fit into all of this? Within the same pension file is a statement of a marriage between her and John Kincaid by the Rev. Edward Crawford on 25 December 1787 in Botetourt County and is certified by the clerk of court of that county!!! The pension files of John Kincaid of Fayette Co., Virginia and John Kincaid of Alleghany County were mixed up at one time and John of Fayette was withdrawn from the pension rolls and later reinstated. I believe that Alcey Elliott was this John's wife and should have been in the reconstructed files for John of Fayette MARRIAGE:Family established by Chalkley v. 2, page 156-157 (O.S. 190; N.S. 67 Bill-July 1812) WILL: (John Dean) Chalkley Chronicles, v.2, page 245-246 (O.S. 342; N.S. 12 Bill-Aug.1812) FHC#30731, 30732. (Al;so have call no. 975-584v2v listed--don't know what that refers to.) TODO: Look for marriages of children in Alleghany Co., VA and any other material, including censuses. Was Mary's name Mary Alice and she went by the name of Alcy or is this another wife, or is this another John altogether. The latter has happened many times with the Kincaids where the same first name is found for several men in one county. Pat At 08:22 PM 10/21/2004, [email protected] wrote: >Sue, > >I have a sister of my ancestor who married a John Kinkead in Fayette County >in 1790. Her name was Mary or Polly Thompson and her parents were Joseph >Thompson and I believe Mary Gibson. I also believe that the Thompsons came >from >Augusta County about 1789. > >I do not know who the parents of this John Kinkead were. Perhaps he was one >of the children that you mentioned showing up in Jessamine/Woodford >County. Of >course, Jessamine was formed from Fayette County in 1798. > >My ancestor was William G. Thompson who was a brother of the above >Mary/Polly. > >Any thoughts on the connection? > >Bob Thompson >Prior Lake, MN > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >****************************************************************

Hello All: I am tracking James Thompson & his wife Senior Temperance 'Tempe' (Mooney) Thompson who lived in and around Augusta County. I have him in Albermarle County and Louisa County, and most likely in Monroe & Greenbrier Counties of WV. He came to Ohio in 1816 with my gt.gt.gd.fa. John Gray who was married to James & Tempe's daughter Susannah. Sure would like to sort out the James Thompson's of that area. There was also a Captain James Thompson there about the same time but am not sure that is my James. John Gray, Columbus, OH At 04:14 PM 10/21/2004, you wrote: >Mickey, >John and Polly (Thompson) Caperton had a son Adam born ca 1753. >I have Adam md to Elizabeth Miller a daughter of Jacob Miller Sr. and >Elizabeth Fudge. >I don't know about Alexander, he was a witness to a deed for John and Polly >Caperton who purchased a tract of land in 1755 in the Beverly Manor tract of >Augusta Co, Va. > >What do you know of Alexander Thompson? >This makes me have two lines of Thompson in Augusta County. >Who is John T. Thompson? Is he connected to Alexander? > > Gay Nix > > > > >Is John Caperton related to Hugh Adam Caperton b ca 1757? > >Is John T Thompson b 1 Oct 1807 who married Elizabeth H Fudge in Alexander >Thompson line? > >These two lines interrelate with my Miller-Fudge-Tierney-Tool lines. All of >Augusta CO. in the mid 1700"s. > > > >Mickey > > > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > >**************************************************************** > >List Administrator > >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > >**************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >****************************************************************

Sue, I have a sister of my ancestor who married a John Kinkead in Fayette County in 1790. Her name was Mary or Polly Thompson and her parents were Joseph Thompson and I believe Mary Gibson. I also believe that the Thompsons came from Augusta County about 1789. I do not know who the parents of this John Kinkead were. Perhaps he was one of the children that you mentioned showing up in Jessamine/Woodford County. Of course, Jessamine was formed from Fayette County in 1798. My ancestor was William G. Thompson who was a brother of the above Mary/Polly. Any thoughts on the connection? Bob Thompson Prior Lake, MN

Boy do you have that right. Knew that James Patton was in the shipping business but didn't know Henry was. Will you give me the source for that information. Have you seen the book The Family Of Ruth (Duncan) Kelly, who wrote about the Woods of Lancaster Co, PA to Albemarle Co, Va. Gay Nix >So many of the early Augusta families are inter-related, studying one means >studying all. > >In the Patton family, John & James Patton appear in Lancastor Co. PA by >1730. One source I found says that Col. James Patton didn't actually move to >the Colonies until 1738. However, there is a James Patton listed on the 1735 >Londonderry, Chester Co. PA tax list. > >As far as I can understand. Margaret Lynn Lewis b 1693 Co. Donegal, Ireland >d 1773 Augusta Co, Va. Her parents were Wm Lynn (1672-1727) and Margaret >Patton (b 1676) who was was the daughter of John Patton (b 1630) and Nancy >Neely. John Patton was the son of William Patton (b 1590 Scotland) who fled >to Co. Donegal in 1642. John had a brother Henry whose son Henry (b 1661) m >Sarah Lynn. (This Henry may have been the brother of Margaret rather than >the cousin). Henry was in the shipping business, with several trips between >Ireland and the Colonies. He is the father of Thomas, John, Thomas, John, >Col. James and Elizabeth Preston. > >The Woods family came from Lancastor Co. PA to Albemarle Co. They brought >with them friends and relatives. They settled near Rockfish Gap. This is the >pass the present hwy from Charlotte to Staunton goes through. There was a >great deal of movement between Rockfish Gap and surrounding Alb. Co. areas >and Beverly Manor/Borden's track. So much so that the area must be >considered as a whole. > >The Lewis family was also connected to the Calhoun family, which was >connected to the Hamiltons. > >The Kincaids show up in Alb. Co. next to the Woods family at about the same >time. They also show up on the Great Calfpasture. The 4 eldest Kincaids in >Alb. Co. were David (Winnefred Hobson Tillery), James (Jean), Joseph and >John. David moved with his family and the Logans to Wash. Co. VA. His son >Joseph shows up in TN, his son John's family went to Clark Co. KY. James & >Joseph died in Alb. Co. Joseph's son John also moved to Wash Co. VA but then >to Madison CO. KY and later some went to MO. I believe James' son Thomas >ends up in Greenbrier Co. near Union. I believe (others disagree) John to >have been the "John the Weaver" who bought land on the Great Calfpasture. >His children seem to appear in Woodford/Jessamine Co. KY. My ancestor Andrew >Kincaid (d 1810 Grbr. Co.) has not been successfully tied to a parent. >Sue in Newport > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gay and Lyndon Nix" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 7:18 AM >Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Conflict between Patton & Craig > > >> Sue, >> I most likely have the same information you have on the Henry and Sarah >Lynn >> family. >> I haven't really went that far with James's parents, I believe most of the >> information I have read is pretty well documented. >> >> I know nothing on the Osborne in Greenbrier County. >> I do know there were some in Montgomery and Augusta Co, Va, but I don't >know >> if they are related are not. >> >> You do go into the Woods family and I would be interested in this line. >> Also the Kincaids, for the reason my James Kelly seemed close to this >> family. Did your line go from Va to Madison Co, Ky to Franklin Co, Tenn to >> Cooper Co, Mo? >> He also followed Wallace Estell to Ky to Tenn to Mo. >> >> But if we discuss this line, lets start new with a different subject line. >> There maybe others who are on this line and can point us in the right >direction. >> I have some info on John Patton, not much at all. >> >> Be waiting for your reply. >> >> Gay Nix >> >> >> >> >I have (admittedly from internet sources so would like your input) Col. >> >James Patton as son of Henry & Sarah Lynn Patton. Sarah was the sister of >Wm >> >Lynn (married Margaret Patton either 1st or 2cd cousin to Henry Patton) >> >whose daughter Margaret m John Lewis. Other children of Henry & Sarah >> >Patton: Robert b 1685 Donegal, Ireland d 1755 Sudsbury, Chester Co. PA >wife: >> >Margaret Woods b. 1710 daughter of Adam & Sarah Woods. Adam was the >brother >> >of Michael Woods. Thomas b 1686 d 1774 Montgomery Co, VA, John b 1689 d >1757 >> >Pendleton Co. m 1.Sarah Rogers 2.Agness Snodgrass and Elizabeth b 1700 m >> >John Preston 1724. >> > >> >I'm interested in the Osborne connection. There are Osbornes in >Greenbrier >> >Co. who intermarry with Kincaids around 1800. Do you know if they are >> >related? >> > >> >Sue in Newport >> > >> > >> >> >> >> As you know and mentioned the Lewis family was kin to Patton. >> >> >> >> Pattons wife Mary was a Osborne and she had sister Margaret who married >> >the >> >> Rev. John Thompson who wanted to pastor the Tinkling Springs Meeting >> >House. >> >> >> >> Rev. John Thompson was turned down from Donegal, Ireland and had to go >> >> elsewhere. >> >> >> >> William Thompson Sr, who I believe is brother to Rev. John Thompson >gave >> >the >> >> land for the Tinkling Springs Church to be built. >> >> >> >> This William Thompson had a son William Thompson Jr, who married Mary >> >Patton >> >> the daughter of Col. James Patton and Mary Osborne. Wm and Mary >Thompson >> >is >> >> my line. >> >> >> >> So we have the Pattons, Prestons, Buchanans, Lewises and Breckenridges >> >> attending and worshiping there at Tinkling Springs Presbyterian Church. >> >> William Preston was Patton's nephew. >> >> Also I have not found any documentation that Benjamin Borden or Michael >> >> Woods were related to Patton, do you know where that information came >> >from. >> >> I know there were some researchers who had thought that Mary Osborne >was >> >> Mary Borden, but more evidence and good sources suggest otherwise. >> >> >> >> I will be looking forward to your reply and giving me the direction >where >> >to >> >> go for the Borden and Woods data. >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >> >**************************************************************** >> >List Administrator >> >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >> >**************************************************************** >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >> **************************************************************** >> List Administrator >> Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >> **************************************************************** >> > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >**************************************************************** > > >

Mickey, John and Polly (Thompson) Caperton had a son Adam born ca 1753. I have Adam md to Elizabeth Miller a daughter of Jacob Miller Sr. and Elizabeth Fudge. I don't know about Alexander, he was a witness to a deed for John and Polly Caperton who purchased a tract of land in 1755 in the Beverly Manor tract of Augusta Co, Va. What do you know of Alexander Thompson? This makes me have two lines of Thompson in Augusta County. Who is John T. Thompson? Is he connected to Alexander? Gay Nix >Is John Caperton related to Hugh Adam Caperton b ca 1757? >Is John T Thompson b 1 Oct 1807 who married Elizabeth H Fudge in Alexander Thompson line? >These two lines interrelate with my Miller-Fudge-Tierney-Tool lines. All of Augusta CO. in the mid 1700"s. > >Mickey > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >**************************************************************** > > >

So many of the early Augusta families are inter-related, studying one means studying all. In the Patton family, John & James Patton appear in Lancastor Co. PA by 1730. One source I found says that Col. James Patton didn't actually move to the Colonies until 1738. However, there is a James Patton listed on the 1735 Londonderry, Chester Co. PA tax list. As far as I can understand. Margaret Lynn Lewis b 1693 Co. Donegal, Ireland d 1773 Augusta Co, Va. Her parents were Wm Lynn (1672-1727) and Margaret Patton (b 1676) who was was the daughter of John Patton (b 1630) and Nancy Neely. John Patton was the son of William Patton (b 1590 Scotland) who fled to Co. Donegal in 1642. John had a brother Henry whose son Henry (b 1661) m Sarah Lynn. (This Henry may have been the brother of Margaret rather than the cousin). Henry was in the shipping business, with several trips between Ireland and the Colonies. He is the father of Thomas, John, Thomas, John, Col. James and Elizabeth Preston. The Woods family came from Lancastor Co. PA to Albemarle Co. They brought with them friends and relatives. They settled near Rockfish Gap. This is the pass the present hwy from Charlotte to Staunton goes through. There was a great deal of movement between Rockfish Gap and surrounding Alb. Co. areas and Beverly Manor/Borden's track. So much so that the area must be considered as a whole. The Lewis family was also connected to the Calhoun family, which was connected to the Hamiltons. The Kincaids show up in Alb. Co. next to the Woods family at about the same time. They also show up on the Great Calfpasture. The 4 eldest Kincaids in Alb. Co. were David (Winnefred Hobson Tillery), James (Jean), Joseph and John. David moved with his family and the Logans to Wash. Co. VA. His son Joseph shows up in TN, his son John's family went to Clark Co. KY. James & Joseph died in Alb. Co. Joseph's son John also moved to Wash Co. VA but then to Madison CO. KY and later some went to MO. I believe James' son Thomas ends up in Greenbrier Co. near Union. I believe (others disagree) John to have been the "John the Weaver" who bought land on the Great Calfpasture. His children seem to appear in Woodford/Jessamine Co. KY. My ancestor Andrew Kincaid (d 1810 Grbr. Co.) has not been successfully tied to a parent. Sue in Newport ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gay and Lyndon Nix" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 7:18 AM Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Conflict between Patton & Craig > Sue, > I most likely have the same information you have on the Henry and Sarah Lynn > family. > I haven't really went that far with James's parents, I believe most of the > information I have read is pretty well documented. > > I know nothing on the Osborne in Greenbrier County. > I do know there were some in Montgomery and Augusta Co, Va, but I don't know > if they are related are not. > > You do go into the Woods family and I would be interested in this line. > Also the Kincaids, for the reason my James Kelly seemed close to this > family. Did your line go from Va to Madison Co, Ky to Franklin Co, Tenn to > Cooper Co, Mo? > He also followed Wallace Estell to Ky to Tenn to Mo. > > But if we discuss this line, lets start new with a different subject line. > There maybe others who are on this line and can point us in the right direction. > I have some info on John Patton, not much at all. > > Be waiting for your reply. > > Gay Nix > > > > >I have (admittedly from internet sources so would like your input) Col. > >James Patton as son of Henry & Sarah Lynn Patton. Sarah was the sister of Wm > >Lynn (married Margaret Patton either 1st or 2cd cousin to Henry Patton) > >whose daughter Margaret m John Lewis. Other children of Henry & Sarah > >Patton: Robert b 1685 Donegal, Ireland d 1755 Sudsbury, Chester Co. PA wife: > >Margaret Woods b. 1710 daughter of Adam & Sarah Woods. Adam was the brother > >of Michael Woods. Thomas b 1686 d 1774 Montgomery Co, VA, John b 1689 d 1757 > >Pendleton Co. m 1.Sarah Rogers 2.Agness Snodgrass and Elizabeth b 1700 m > >John Preston 1724. > > > >I'm interested in the Osborne connection. There are Osbornes in Greenbrier > >Co. who intermarry with Kincaids around 1800. Do you know if they are > >related? > > > >Sue in Newport > > > > > >> > >> As you know and mentioned the Lewis family was kin to Patton. > >> > >> Pattons wife Mary was a Osborne and she had sister Margaret who married > >the > >> Rev. John Thompson who wanted to pastor the Tinkling Springs Meeting > >House. > >> > >> Rev. John Thompson was turned down from Donegal, Ireland and had to go > >> elsewhere. > >> > >> William Thompson Sr, who I believe is brother to Rev. John Thompson gave > >the > >> land for the Tinkling Springs Church to be built. > >> > >> This William Thompson had a son William Thompson Jr, who married Mary > >Patton > >> the daughter of Col. James Patton and Mary Osborne. Wm and Mary Thompson > >is > >> my line. > >> > >> So we have the Pattons, Prestons, Buchanans, Lewises and Breckenridges > >> attending and worshiping there at Tinkling Springs Presbyterian Church. > >> William Preston was Patton's nephew. > >> Also I have not found any documentation that Benjamin Borden or Michael > >> Woods were related to Patton, do you know where that information came > >from. > >> I know there were some researchers who had thought that Mary Osborne was > >> Mary Borden, but more evidence and good sources suggest otherwise. > >> > >> I will be looking forward to your reply and giving me the direction where > >to > >> go for the Borden and Woods data. > >> > > > > > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > >**************************************************************** > >List Administrator > >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > >**************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** >

Is John Caperton related to Hugh Adam Caperton b ca 1757? Is John T Thompson b 1 Oct 1807 who married Elizabeth H Fudge in Alexander Thompson line? These two lines interrelate with my Miller-Fudge-Tierney-Tool lines. All of Augusta CO. in the mid 1700"s. Mickey

Sharon, Thank you for that information, I did not know that. Gay >In a message dated 10/19/2004 7:02:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: >Daley, >I enjoyed the information about the conflict between Col. James Patton and >the Rev. Craig. >I had not found that information or heard that before. >I am always eager to learn more about my ancestor James Patton. > >I have my opinion also as to what could have happened if there was a >conflict you may find interesting. > >As you know and mentioned the Lewis family was kin to Patton. > >Pattons wife Mary was a Osborne and she had sister Margaret who married the >Rev. John Thompson who wanted to pastor the Tinkling Springs Meeting House. > >Rev. John Thompson was turned down from Donegal, Ireland and had to go >elsewhere. > >William Thompson Sr, who I believe is brother to Rev. John Thompson gave the >land for the Tinkling Springs Church to be built. > >This William Thompson had a son William Thompson Jr, who married Mary Patton >the daughter of Col. James Patton and Mary Osborne. Wm and Mary Thompson is >my line. > >So you can see there was kinship and pull as to who they wanted for their >pastor. >So we have the Pattons, Prestons, Buchanans, Lewises and Breckenridges >attending and worshiping there at Tinkling Springs Presbyterian Church. >William Preston was Patton's nephew. > >On page 31 and page 11 of Lillian Kennerly Craigs book what source did she >give on the conflict? > >Also I have not found any documentation that Benjamin Borden or Michael >Woods were related to Patton, do you know where that information came from. >I know there were some researchers who had thought that Mary Osborne was >Mary Borden, but more evidence and good sources suggest otherwise. > >I will be looking forward to your reply and giving me the direction where to >go for the Borden and Woods data. > >My James Kelly could be connected to the Woods you speak of. >James was from Greenbrier Co, Va. >He married Nancy Caperton. >I have two Thompson lines, one Polly Thompson married John Caperton and also >lived in the Augusta County area. She could have been kin to Alexander >Thompson, this Thompson family is not as well documented as the other I >spoke about. > >Thank you again for the interesting data about Patton and Rev John Craig. > > Gay Nix >Then Gaston Caperton is the former Governor of West Virginia and part of >McDonough,Caperton, Shepherd, Goldsmith Insurance in Charleston! > > >Sharon > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >**************************************************************** > > >

Sue, I most likely have the same information you have on the Henry and Sarah Lynn family. I haven't really went that far with James's parents, I believe most of the information I have read is pretty well documented. I know nothing on the Osborne in Greenbrier County. I do know there were some in Montgomery and Augusta Co, Va, but I don't know if they are related are not. You do go into the Woods family and I would be interested in this line. Also the Kincaids, for the reason my James Kelly seemed close to this family. Did your line go from Va to Madison Co, Ky to Franklin Co, Tenn to Cooper Co, Mo? He also followed Wallace Estell to Ky to Tenn to Mo. But if we discuss this line, lets start new with a different subject line. There maybe others who are on this line and can point us in the right direction. I have some info on John Patton, not much at all. Be waiting for your reply. Gay Nix >I have (admittedly from internet sources so would like your input) Col. >James Patton as son of Henry & Sarah Lynn Patton. Sarah was the sister of Wm >Lynn (married Margaret Patton either 1st or 2cd cousin to Henry Patton) >whose daughter Margaret m John Lewis. Other children of Henry & Sarah >Patton: Robert b 1685 Donegal, Ireland d 1755 Sudsbury, Chester Co. PA wife: >Margaret Woods b. 1710 daughter of Adam & Sarah Woods. Adam was the brother >of Michael Woods. Thomas b 1686 d 1774 Montgomery Co, VA, John b 1689 d 1757 >Pendleton Co. m 1.Sarah Rogers 2.Agness Snodgrass and Elizabeth b 1700 m >John Preston 1724. > >I'm interested in the Osborne connection. There are Osbornes in Greenbrier >Co. who intermarry with Kincaids around 1800. Do you know if they are >related? > >Sue in Newport > > >> >> As you know and mentioned the Lewis family was kin to Patton. >> >> Pattons wife Mary was a Osborne and she had sister Margaret who married >the >> Rev. John Thompson who wanted to pastor the Tinkling Springs Meeting >House. >> >> Rev. John Thompson was turned down from Donegal, Ireland and had to go >> elsewhere. >> >> William Thompson Sr, who I believe is brother to Rev. John Thompson gave >the >> land for the Tinkling Springs Church to be built. >> >> This William Thompson had a son William Thompson Jr, who married Mary >Patton >> the daughter of Col. James Patton and Mary Osborne. Wm and Mary Thompson >is >> my line. >> >> So we have the Pattons, Prestons, Buchanans, Lewises and Breckenridges >> attending and worshiping there at Tinkling Springs Presbyterian Church. >> William Preston was Patton's nephew. >> Also I have not found any documentation that Benjamin Borden or Michael >> Woods were related to Patton, do you know where that information came >from. >> I know there were some researchers who had thought that Mary Osborne was >> Mary Borden, but more evidence and good sources suggest otherwise. >> >> I will be looking forward to your reply and giving me the direction where >to >> go for the Borden and Woods data. >> > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >**************************************************************** > > >

Looking for connections between McNees and McCormick lines in Va./Pa./Ky. Here is part of what I have: >Wm. McNees b. c1742, in Augusta Co., Va. 1760's, md. to Jane McCormick c1771, to Westmoreland Co., Pa. c1774, d. 1805 in Butler Co., Pa. >Wm.'s brother John McNees b. c1740, in Augusta Co., Va. 1770's, in Hampshire/Hardy Co., Va./WVA 1780's, to Bourbon Co., Ky. 1791, d. Harrison Co., Ky. 1804. John's daughter, Mary Ann, md. James McCormick 1792 in Bourbon Co., Ky. James McCormick was s/o John McCormick b. c1754 who came to Bourbon Co. 1795 from Hardy Co., Va/WVA. The thinking is that this John McCormick could have been sister of Jane McCormick who md. Wm. McNees. >Both Wm. and John were in Capt. Benjamin Harrison's Company. >Their sister Rosanna, was wife of John McCormick who died 1779 in Westmoreland Co., Pa. She remarried to Adam Stott and migrated to Bourbon Co., Ky. by 1794. Don't know how this John McCormick fits into McCormick line. So, my questions include: >Where were these McNees' before Augusta Co., Va. Were these McCormicks with them? >Were they related to Isaiah McNees family that came from Lancaster Co., Pa. to Lunenburg/Charlotte Co., Va.? >Has anyone identified other connections between these McNees and McCormick families? >Any ideas on either of the aforementioned John McCormicks? I am trying to trace my Wm. McCormick line from Ky. back into Pa. and Va. Wm. McCormick b. c1755 in Va., md. Maria Cary Eggleston (she was d/o John Eggleston from Hanover/Amelia Co. Va.), migrated to Pa. where son John was born 1788, then to central Ky. where he and Maria were killed by Indians c1793. Son, John moved on to Bracken Co., Ky. Wm. and Maria supposedly had several children...the only other one identified is Hannah who md. Wm. Rodgers 1796 in Clark Co., Ky. My Wm. certainly fits age wise and location wise with John McCormick b. 1754 and Jane McCormick who md. Wm. McNees. Any clues on this McNees and McCormick puzzle would be most welcomed. Art Miller, Louisville

In a message dated 10/19/2004 7:02:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Daley, I enjoyed the information about the conflict between Col. James Patton and the Rev. Craig. I had not found that information or heard that before. I am always eager to learn more about my ancestor James Patton. I have my opinion also as to what could have happened if there was a conflict you may find interesting. As you know and mentioned the Lewis family was kin to Patton. Pattons wife Mary was a Osborne and she had sister Margaret who married the Rev. John Thompson who wanted to pastor the Tinkling Springs Meeting House. Rev. John Thompson was turned down from Donegal, Ireland and had to go elsewhere. William Thompson Sr, who I believe is brother to Rev. John Thompson gave the land for the Tinkling Springs Church to be built. This William Thompson had a son William Thompson Jr, who married Mary Patton the daughter of Col. James Patton and Mary Osborne. Wm and Mary Thompson is my line. So you can see there was kinship and pull as to who they wanted for their pastor. So we have the Pattons, Prestons, Buchanans, Lewises and Breckenridges attending and worshiping there at Tinkling Springs Presbyterian Church. William Preston was Patton's nephew. On page 31 and page 11 of Lillian Kennerly Craigs book what source did she give on the conflict? Also I have not found any documentation that Benjamin Borden or Michael Woods were related to Patton, do you know where that information came from. I know there were some researchers who had thought that Mary Osborne was Mary Borden, but more evidence and good sources suggest otherwise. I will be looking forward to your reply and giving me the direction where to go for the Borden and Woods data. My James Kelly could be connected to the Woods you speak of. James was from Greenbrier Co, Va. He married Nancy Caperton. I have two Thompson lines, one Polly Thompson married John Caperton and also lived in the Augusta County area. She could have been kin to Alexander Thompson, this Thompson family is not as well documented as the other I spoke about. Thank you again for the interesting data about Patton and Rev John Craig. Gay Nix Then Gaston Caperton is the former Governor of West Virginia and part of McDonough,Caperton, Shepherd, Goldsmith Insurance in Charleston! Sharon