I agree that Mattoon and Coles County did not exist until after 1800, but you are wrong about there being no records in Illinois prior to 1818. I work in the Gallatin County Clerk's office in Illinois and we have marriage and land records that begin in 1813. There are also County Court records prior to 1818. You can find marriage records for Illinois prior to 1800 in Randolph County, Illinois and there are also some Illinois marriage records in Vincennes, Indiana as we were considered part of the the Indiana Territory prior to 1813. Jan McCabe Hall > > From: "Debra Rookard" <[email protected]> > Date: 2004/10/30 Sat AM 12:45:31 EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: [VAAUGUST] Caperton-Thompson-Miller lines > > Marjorie is correct. > > I hope no one expends too much effort trying to track down records in > Illinois prior to 3 Dec 1818, when it became a state and was admitted to the > Union. > > The Territory of Illinois was created by an act of congress in 1809. By > territory, I mean wilderness; then known as Illinwek. > > Previous to this, what we now know as IL belonged to the Commonwealth of > Virginia, whose border stretched to present day western Wisconsin. > > This area was controlled by the French from 1675 until 1763, being reached > by the French Jesuit missionaries, Jacques Marquette and Louis Joliet on 20 > Jan 1673. > > The British had a short speight in here towards the end of European control, > just. previous to Virginia's accession. > > So, the county of Hugh Caperton's birth would have been Orange Co, VA, since > Augusta was not formed from it until 1778. > > > > > Marjorie wrote: > > > Daniel, In 1757, there was no Mattoon nor Coles Co. Illinois. Illinois did > > not become a state until 1818; I live in Illinois and I am positive about > > this. > > > > >Gay, > > >I have the following: > > >Hugh Adam Caperton b. ca 1757 Mattoon, Coles CO., IL > > >d. ca 1782 in Estill's Defeat > > >m. Elizabeth B. Miller b. ca 1757 Rockingham (Now Augusta CO., VA d. bef > > >1828 in KY. > > >Elizabeth B Miller was the daughter of Jacob Miller & Elizabeth Fudge. > Hugh > > >Adam Caperton was her 1st husband. I don't have a marriage date for them. > > I > > >show that they had 5 children: George b. ca 1777 in Bertie CO., NC; > > >Elizabeth; Conrad Caperton b. ca 1779; Hugh Caperton b. ca 1781 Bertie > CO., > > >NC d. 1847 Trigg CO., KY; and John Caperton b. ca 1785 Bertie CO., NC and > > >died bef 1880 in TN. > > >As far as the Thompson's are concerned I have some information on the > > >Thompson's being buried in the Wolfe Cemetery on J. V.Crenshaw Farm 2 > miles > > >North of Meadowview, VA. Willis G. Corbitt visited this cemetery in 1959 > > >and sent me the following list: > > > > > >THOMPSON, John Oct 1, 1807-Aug 9, 1878 > > >THOMPSON, Elizabeth H (FUDGE) April 1, 1807-July 6, 1880 (his > wife) > > >THOMPSON, Jane N. July 2, 1814-Jan 21 1873 ? > > >THOMPSON, John R. June 22, 1874-Dec 19, 1876 > ? > > >THOMPSON, Daniel T. March 24, 1888--Aug 23, 1888 > > >THOMPSON, Willie Hubert May 13, 1890--Feb 25, 1891 > (son > > >of S.F. & T.V.) > > >THOMPSON, John T. April 20, 1813--June 21, > 1813 > > >? > > >THOMPSON, ? June 18, 1850--? (dau > of > > >J.T. & E) > > >THOMPSON, Adam Fudge June 24, 1835--May 10, 1904 (son > > of > > >John & E.H.) > > >THOMPSON, Elizabeth A. (wife) May 30, 1847--Dec 5, 1888 (dau > of > > >Robert Thonmpson) > > >THOMPSON, Margaret (Snyder) July 18, 1860--? (nd wife of > Adam > > >F.) > > >THOMPSON, James H May 18, 1839--Feb 27, 1922 > > (son > > >of J & E.H.) > > >THOMPSON, Harriet Jane (DUTTON) Nov 10, 1842--July 8, 1909 (wife of > > James > > >H) > > >THOMPSON, Ella A. Oct 22, 1866--Apr 15, > 1887 > > >(dau of J.H. & H. J.) > > >THOMPSON, Paul B Aug 31, 1879--Dec 24, > 1879 > > ? > > >THOMPSON, Uda M. Feb 11, 1881--April 13, > 1915 > > >? > > >I don't know if these were listed in "High on a Windy Hill" by Catherine > S. > > >McConnell in 1962 or not. > > >The only reason I have an interest in John Thompson is because of the > > >Fudge-Miller line. > > >Happy Hunting, > > >Mickey > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Gay and Lyndon Nix" <[email protected]> > > >To: <[email protected]> > > >Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 3:14 PM > > >Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Caperton-Thompson-Miller lines > > > > > > > > >> Mickey, > > >> John and Polly (Thompson) Caperton had a son Adam born ca 1753. > > >> I have Adam md to Elizabeth Miller a daughter of Jacob Miller Sr. and > > >> Elizabeth Fudge. > > >> I don't know about Alexander, he was a witness to a deed for John and > > >Polly > > >> Caperton who purchased a tract of land in 1755 in the Beverly Manor > tract > > >of > > >> Augusta Co, Va. > > >> > > >> What do you know of Alexander Thompson? > > >> This makes me have two lines of Thompson in Augusta County. > > >> Who is John T. Thompson? Is he connected to Alexander? > > >> > > >> Gay Nix > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >Is John Caperton related to Hugh Adam Caperton b ca 1757? > > >> >Is John T Thompson b 1 Oct 1807 who married Elizabeth H Fudge in > > >Alexander > > >> Thompson line? > > >> >These two lines interrelate with my Miller-Fudge-Tierney-Tool lines. > All > > >of > > >> Augusta CO. in the mid 1700"s. > > >> > > > >> >Mickey > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > >> >**************************************************************** > > >> >List Administrator > > >> >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > >> >**************************************************************** > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > >> **************************************************************** > > >> List Administrator > > >> Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > >> **************************************************************** > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > >**************************************************************** > > >List Administrator > > >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > >**************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > **************************************************************** > > List Administrator > > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > **************************************************************** > > > > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** > >

Well, I think there are Illinois records available prior to 1818. It just depends on what boundary the area falls under *now*. The land covering Illinois wasn't under U.S. control until 1778 when it was captured from the British. Virginia then laid claim to the area covering and including Illinois and ceded it to the U.S. Government in 1784. The Northwest Territory was created from this in 1787 and it included present-day Illinois. It was further carved and shaped in 1800 when the Indiana Territory was created, and it included present-day Illinois. In 1809, the Illinois Territory was created with the capital as Kaskaskia. Then, in 1818, it was admitted as a state. So, depending on the year during the timeline, you might be able to find records for Illinois in these other areas. Not to say that anyone is "wrong", but to say that someone was born in Illinois prior to even 1778 is bordering upon the impossible. The French did own it until 1763 when they ceded it to the British after the French and Indian War, and then the British had it until 1778 when it was captured by the Americans. So, a 1757 birth year for Hugh Caperton was likely in an area known then as Augusta County, Virginia, but I wouldn't think it was in the present-day area of Illinois. Again, hope that's helpful to someone .... Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debra Rookard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:45 PM Subject: [VAAUGUST] Caperton-Thompson-Miller lines > Marjorie is correct. > > I hope no one expends too much effort trying to track down records in > Illinois prior to 3 Dec 1818, when it became a state and was admitted to the > Union. > > The Territory of Illinois was created by an act of congress in 1809. By > territory, I mean wilderness; then known as Illinwek. > > Previous to this, what we now know as IL belonged to the Commonwealth of > Virginia, whose border stretched to present day western Wisconsin. > > This area was controlled by the French from 1675 until 1763, being reached > by the French Jesuit missionaries, Jacques Marquette and Louis Joliet on 20 > Jan 1673. > > The British had a short speight in here towards the end of European control, > just. previous to Virginia's accession. > > So, the county of Hugh Caperton's birth would have been Orange Co, VA, since > Augusta was not formed from it until 1778. > > > > > Marjorie wrote: > > > Daniel, In 1757, there was no Mattoon nor Coles Co. Illinois. Illinois did > > not become a state until 1818; I live in Illinois and I am positive about > > this. > > > > >Gay, > > >I have the following: > > >Hugh Adam Caperton b. ca 1757 Mattoon, Coles CO., IL > > >d. ca 1782 in Estill's Defeat > > >m. Elizabeth B. Miller b. ca 1757 Rockingham (Now Augusta CO., VA d. bef > > >1828 in KY. > > >Elizabeth B Miller was the daughter of Jacob Miller & Elizabeth Fudge. > Hugh > > >Adam Caperton was her 1st husband. I don't have a marriage date for them. > > I > > >show that they had 5 children: George b. ca 1777 in Bertie CO., NC; > > >Elizabeth; Conrad Caperton b. ca 1779; Hugh Caperton b. ca 1781 Bertie > CO., > > >NC d. 1847 Trigg CO., KY; and John Caperton b. ca 1785 Bertie CO., NC and > > >died bef 1880 in TN. > > >As far as the Thompson's are concerned I have some information on the > > >Thompson's being buried in the Wolfe Cemetery on J. V.Crenshaw Farm 2 > miles > > >North of Meadowview, VA. Willis G. Corbitt visited this cemetery in 1959 > > >and sent me the following list: > > > > > >THOMPSON, John Oct 1, 1807-Aug 9, 1878 > > >THOMPSON, Elizabeth H (FUDGE) April 1, 1807-July 6, 1880 (his > wife) > > >THOMPSON, Jane N. July 2, 1814-Jan 21 1873 ? > > >THOMPSON, John R. June 22, 1874-Dec 19, 1876 > ? > > >THOMPSON, Daniel T. March 24, 1888--Aug 23, 1888 > > >THOMPSON, Willie Hubert May 13, 1890--Feb 25, 1891 > (son > > >of S.F. & T.V.) > > >THOMPSON, John T. April 20, 1813--June 21, > 1813 > > >? > > >THOMPSON, ? June 18, 1850--? (dau > of > > >J.T. & E) > > >THOMPSON, Adam Fudge June 24, 1835--May 10, 1904 (son > > of > > >John & E.H.) > > >THOMPSON, Elizabeth A. (wife) May 30, 1847--Dec 5, 1888 (dau > of > > >Robert Thonmpson) > > >THOMPSON, Margaret (Snyder) July 18, 1860--? (nd wife of > Adam > > >F.) > > >THOMPSON, James H May 18, 1839--Feb 27, 1922 > > (son > > >of J & E.H.) > > >THOMPSON, Harriet Jane (DUTTON) Nov 10, 1842--July 8, 1909 (wife of > > James > > >H) > > >THOMPSON, Ella A. Oct 22, 1866--Apr 15, > 1887 > > >(dau of J.H. & H. J.) > > >THOMPSON, Paul B Aug 31, 1879--Dec 24, > 1879 > > ? > > >THOMPSON, Uda M. Feb 11, 1881--April 13, > 1915 > > >? > > >I don't know if these were listed in "High on a Windy Hill" by Catherine > S. > > >McConnell in 1962 or not. > > >The only reason I have an interest in John Thompson is because of the > > >Fudge-Miller line. > > >Happy Hunting, > > >Mickey > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Gay and Lyndon Nix" <[email protected]> > > >To: <[email protected]> > > >Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 3:14 PM > > >Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Caperton-Thompson-Miller lines > > > > > > > > >> Mickey, > > >> John and Polly (Thompson) Caperton had a son Adam born ca 1753. > > >> I have Adam md to Elizabeth Miller a daughter of Jacob Miller Sr. and > > >> Elizabeth Fudge. > > >> I don't know about Alexander, he was a witness to a deed for John and > > >Polly > > >> Caperton who purchased a tract of land in 1755 in the Beverly Manor > tract > > >of > > >> Augusta Co, Va. > > >> > > >> What do you know of Alexander Thompson? > > >> This makes me have two lines of Thompson in Augusta County. > > >> Who is John T. Thompson? Is he connected to Alexander? > > >> > > >> Gay Nix > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >Is John Caperton related to Hugh Adam Caperton b ca 1757? > > >> >Is John T Thompson b 1 Oct 1807 who married Elizabeth H Fudge in > > >Alexander > > >> Thompson line? > > >> >These two lines interrelate with my Miller-Fudge-Tierney-Tool lines. > All > > >of > > >> Augusta CO. in the mid 1700"s. > > >> > > > >> >Mickey > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > >> >**************************************************************** > > >> >List Administrator > > >> >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > >> >**************************************************************** > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > >> **************************************************************** > > >> List Administrator > > >> Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > >> **************************************************************** > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > >**************************************************************** > > >List Administrator > > >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > >**************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > **************************************************************** > > List Administrator > > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > **************************************************************** > > > > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** > >

Thanks Mike and Barb, The correction is appreciated. That's what I get for trying to pull these dates from memory at so late an hour. ;- } In any event, successful research in VA requires a detailed road map. (I should have had mine open.) One of the best tools in my arsenal is a breakdown of the county formations by G. Lee Hearl. It is posted on Washington County's GenWeb site. http://www.rootsweb.com/~vawashin/countyform.html A visit to Lee's website offers many hours of enjoyable and enlightening reading. http://hearlshill.freeservers.com/index.html > I'm sure we all appreciate that great info. I know I do. > > Just a quick note, though, concerning Augusta County and its formation. > Augusta County was officially formed from Orange in 1745 when the first > courts were held, not 1778. It was Rockingham County being formed from > Augusta that was in 1778. > > Also, it was stated earlier that Elizabeth B. Miller was born "ca. 1757 > Rockingham (Now Augusta CO., VA d. bef 1828 in KY.)". That's actually > backwards. Since Rockingham was carved from Augusta, the area that > Elizabeth was born in had to be Augusta County as Rockingham Co didn't exist > yet in 1757. That area of 1757 Augusta Co. may have become Rockingham when > R'ham formed in 1778. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not > aware of any part of Rockingham Co. going back under Augusta Co. after > R'ham's formation in 1778. > > Hope that is at least a little helpful and not too meddling ... > > Michael Sellers

Thank you Kailani for taking the time to send the link to the map site; I bookmarked it for future reference. At the moment, they are only copying entire states. Hopefully, in the future, they will expand and include county maps and perhaps city maps as well. For those who missed it here is the link again: http://www.genealogyatlas.com Linda B. Morin [email protected]

"Formed from Orange County, Augusta County was created in 1738 by an Act of the General Assembly which provided that its territory should remain a part of Orange County until there were sufficient inhabitants to support a local government. The first Court was held in 1745." ---------- At 03:21 AM 10/30/04 -0700, you wrote: >I'm sure we all appreciate that great info. I know I do. > >Just a quick note, though, concerning Augusta County and its formation. >Augusta County was officially formed from Orange in 1745 when the first >courts were held, not 1778. It was Rockingham County being formed from >Augusta that was in 1778. > >Also, it was stated earlier that Elizabeth B. Miller was born "ca. 1757 >Rockingham (Now Augusta CO., VA d. bef 1828 in KY.)". That's actually >backwards. Since Rockingham was carved from Augusta, the area that >Elizabeth was born in had to be Augusta County as Rockingham Co didn't exist >yet in 1757. That area of 1757 Augusta Co. may have become Rockingham when >R'ham formed in 1778. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not >aware of any part of Rockingham Co. going back under Augusta Co. after >R'ham's formation in 1778. > >Hope that is at least a little helpful and not too meddling ... > >Michael Sellers > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Debra Rookard" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:45 PM >Subject: [VAAUGUST] Caperton-Thompson-Miller lines > > > > Marjorie is correct. > > > > I hope no one expends too much effort trying to track down records in > > Illinois prior to 3 Dec 1818, when it became a state and was admitted to >the > > Union. > > > > The Territory of Illinois was created by an act of congress in 1809. By > > territory, I mean wilderness; then known as Illinwek. > > > > Previous to this, what we now know as IL belonged to the Commonwealth of > > Virginia, whose border stretched to present day western Wisconsin. > > > > This area was controlled by the French from 1675 until 1763, being reached > > by the French Jesuit missionaries, Jacques Marquette and Louis Joliet on >20 > > Jan 1673. > > > > The British had a short speight in here towards the end of European >control, > > just. previous to Virginia's accession. > > > > So, the county of Hugh Caperton's birth would have been Orange Co, VA, >since > > Augusta was not formed from it until 1778. > > > > > > > > > > Marjorie wrote: > > > > > Daniel, In 1757, there was no Mattoon nor Coles Co. Illinois. Illinois >did > > > not become a state until 1818; I live in Illinois and I am positive >about > > > this. > > > > > > >Gay, > > > >I have the following: > > > >Hugh Adam Caperton b. ca 1757 Mattoon, Coles CO., IL > > > >d. ca 1782 in Estill's Defeat > > > >m. Elizabeth B. Miller b. ca 1757 Rockingham (Now Augusta CO., VA d. >bef > > > >1828 in KY. > > > >Elizabeth B Miller was the daughter of Jacob Miller & Elizabeth Fudge. > > Hugh > > > >Adam Caperton was her 1st husband. I don't have a marriage date for >them. > > > I > > > >show that they had 5 children: George b. ca 1777 in Bertie CO., NC; > > > >Elizabeth; Conrad Caperton b. ca 1779; Hugh Caperton b. ca 1781 Bertie > > CO., > > > >NC d. 1847 Trigg CO., KY; and John Caperton b. ca 1785 Bertie CO., NC >and > > > >died bef 1880 in TN. > > > >As far as the Thompson's are concerned I have some information on the > > > >Thompson's being buried in the Wolfe Cemetery on J. V.Crenshaw Farm 2 > > miles > > > >North of Meadowview, VA. Willis G. Corbitt visited this cemetery in >1959 > > > >and sent me the following list: > > > > > > > >THOMPSON, John Oct 1, 1807-Aug 9, 1878 > > > >THOMPSON, Elizabeth H (FUDGE) April 1, 1807-July 6, 1880 (his > > wife) > > > >THOMPSON, Jane N. July 2, 1814-Jan 21 1873 >? > > > >THOMPSON, John R. June 22, 1874-Dec 19, >1876 > > ? > > > >THOMPSON, Daniel T. March 24, 1888--Aug 23, >1888 > > > >THOMPSON, Willie Hubert May 13, 1890--Feb 25, 1891 > > (son > > > >of S.F. & T.V.) > > > >THOMPSON, John T. April 20, 1813--June 21, > > 1813 > > > >? > > > >THOMPSON, ? June 18, 1850--? >(dau > > of > > > >J.T. & E) > > > >THOMPSON, Adam Fudge June 24, 1835--May 10, 1904 >(son > > > of > > > >John & E.H.) > > > >THOMPSON, Elizabeth A. (wife) May 30, 1847--Dec 5, 1888 >(dau > > of > > > >Robert Thonmpson) > > > >THOMPSON, Margaret (Snyder) July 18, 1860--? (nd wife of > > Adam > > > >F.) > > > >THOMPSON, James H May 18, 1839--Feb 27, 1922 > > > (son > > > >of J & E.H.) > > > >THOMPSON, Harriet Jane (DUTTON) Nov 10, 1842--July 8, 1909 (wife of > > > James > > > >H) > > > >THOMPSON, Ella A. Oct 22, 1866--Apr 15, > > 1887 > > > >(dau of J.H. & H. J.) > > > >THOMPSON, Paul B Aug 31, 1879--Dec 24, > > 1879 > > > ? > > > >THOMPSON, Uda M. Feb 11, 1881--April 13, > > 1915 > > > >? > > > >I don't know if these were listed in "High on a Windy Hill" by >Catherine > > S. > > > >McConnell in 1962 or not. > > > >The only reason I have an interest in John Thompson is because of the > > > >Fudge-Miller line. > > > >Happy Hunting, > > > >Mickey > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Gay and Lyndon Nix" <[email protected]> > > > >To: <[email protected]> > > > >Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 3:14 PM > > > >Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Caperton-Thompson-Miller lines > > > > > > > > > > > >> Mickey, > > > >> John and Polly (Thompson) Caperton had a son Adam born ca 1753. > > > >> I have Adam md to Elizabeth Miller a daughter of Jacob Miller Sr. and > > > >> Elizabeth Fudge. > > > >> I don't know about Alexander, he was a witness to a deed for John and > > > >Polly > > > >> Caperton who purchased a tract of land in 1755 in the Beverly Manor > > tract > > > >of > > > >> Augusta Co, Va. > > > >> > > > >> What do you know of Alexander Thompson? > > > >> This makes me have two lines of Thompson in Augusta County. > > > >> Who is John T. Thompson? Is he connected to Alexander? > > > >> > > > >> Gay Nix > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >Is John Caperton related to Hugh Adam Caperton b ca 1757? > > > >> >Is John T Thompson b 1 Oct 1807 who married Elizabeth H Fudge in > > > >Alexander > > > >> Thompson line? > > > >> >These two lines interrelate with my Miller-Fudge-Tierney-Tool lines. > > All > > > >of > > > >> Augusta CO. in the mid 1700"s. > > > >> > > > > >> >Mickey > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > > >> >**************************************************************** > > > >> >List Administrator > > > >> >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > > >> >**************************************************************** > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > > >> **************************************************************** > > > >> List Administrator > > > >> Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > > >> **************************************************************** > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > > >**************************************************************** > > > >List Administrator > > > >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > > >**************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > > **************************************************************** > > > List Administrator > > > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > > **************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > **************************************************************** > > List Administrator > > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > **************************************************************** > > > > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >****************************************************************

I'm sure we all appreciate that great info. I know I do. Just a quick note, though, concerning Augusta County and its formation. Augusta County was officially formed from Orange in 1745 when the first courts were held, not 1778. It was Rockingham County being formed from Augusta that was in 1778. Also, it was stated earlier that Elizabeth B. Miller was born "ca. 1757 Rockingham (Now Augusta CO., VA d. bef 1828 in KY.)". That's actually backwards. Since Rockingham was carved from Augusta, the area that Elizabeth was born in had to be Augusta County as Rockingham Co didn't exist yet in 1757. That area of 1757 Augusta Co. may have become Rockingham when R'ham formed in 1778. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not aware of any part of Rockingham Co. going back under Augusta Co. after R'ham's formation in 1778. Hope that is at least a little helpful and not too meddling ... Michael Sellers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debra Rookard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:45 PM Subject: [VAAUGUST] Caperton-Thompson-Miller lines > Marjorie is correct. > > I hope no one expends too much effort trying to track down records in > Illinois prior to 3 Dec 1818, when it became a state and was admitted to the > Union. > > The Territory of Illinois was created by an act of congress in 1809. By > territory, I mean wilderness; then known as Illinwek. > > Previous to this, what we now know as IL belonged to the Commonwealth of > Virginia, whose border stretched to present day western Wisconsin. > > This area was controlled by the French from 1675 until 1763, being reached > by the French Jesuit missionaries, Jacques Marquette and Louis Joliet on 20 > Jan 1673. > > The British had a short speight in here towards the end of European control, > just. previous to Virginia's accession. > > So, the county of Hugh Caperton's birth would have been Orange Co, VA, since > Augusta was not formed from it until 1778. > > > > > Marjorie wrote: > > > Daniel, In 1757, there was no Mattoon nor Coles Co. Illinois. Illinois did > > not become a state until 1818; I live in Illinois and I am positive about > > this. > > > > >Gay, > > >I have the following: > > >Hugh Adam Caperton b. ca 1757 Mattoon, Coles CO., IL > > >d. ca 1782 in Estill's Defeat > > >m. Elizabeth B. Miller b. ca 1757 Rockingham (Now Augusta CO., VA d. bef > > >1828 in KY. > > >Elizabeth B Miller was the daughter of Jacob Miller & Elizabeth Fudge. > Hugh > > >Adam Caperton was her 1st husband. I don't have a marriage date for them. > > I > > >show that they had 5 children: George b. ca 1777 in Bertie CO., NC; > > >Elizabeth; Conrad Caperton b. ca 1779; Hugh Caperton b. ca 1781 Bertie > CO., > > >NC d. 1847 Trigg CO., KY; and John Caperton b. ca 1785 Bertie CO., NC and > > >died bef 1880 in TN. > > >As far as the Thompson's are concerned I have some information on the > > >Thompson's being buried in the Wolfe Cemetery on J. V.Crenshaw Farm 2 > miles > > >North of Meadowview, VA. Willis G. Corbitt visited this cemetery in 1959 > > >and sent me the following list: > > > > > >THOMPSON, John Oct 1, 1807-Aug 9, 1878 > > >THOMPSON, Elizabeth H (FUDGE) April 1, 1807-July 6, 1880 (his > wife) > > >THOMPSON, Jane N. July 2, 1814-Jan 21 1873 ? > > >THOMPSON, John R. June 22, 1874-Dec 19, 1876 > ? > > >THOMPSON, Daniel T. March 24, 1888--Aug 23, 1888 > > >THOMPSON, Willie Hubert May 13, 1890--Feb 25, 1891 > (son > > >of S.F. & T.V.) > > >THOMPSON, John T. April 20, 1813--June 21, > 1813 > > >? > > >THOMPSON, ? June 18, 1850--? (dau > of > > >J.T. & E) > > >THOMPSON, Adam Fudge June 24, 1835--May 10, 1904 (son > > of > > >John & E.H.) > > >THOMPSON, Elizabeth A. (wife) May 30, 1847--Dec 5, 1888 (dau > of > > >Robert Thonmpson) > > >THOMPSON, Margaret (Snyder) July 18, 1860--? (nd wife of > Adam > > >F.) > > >THOMPSON, James H May 18, 1839--Feb 27, 1922 > > (son > > >of J & E.H.) > > >THOMPSON, Harriet Jane (DUTTON) Nov 10, 1842--July 8, 1909 (wife of > > James > > >H) > > >THOMPSON, Ella A. Oct 22, 1866--Apr 15, > 1887 > > >(dau of J.H. & H. J.) > > >THOMPSON, Paul B Aug 31, 1879--Dec 24, > 1879 > > ? > > >THOMPSON, Uda M. Feb 11, 1881--April 13, > 1915 > > >? > > >I don't know if these were listed in "High on a Windy Hill" by Catherine > S. > > >McConnell in 1962 or not. > > >The only reason I have an interest in John Thompson is because of the > > >Fudge-Miller line. > > >Happy Hunting, > > >Mickey > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Gay and Lyndon Nix" <[email protected]> > > >To: <[email protected]> > > >Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 3:14 PM > > >Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Caperton-Thompson-Miller lines > > > > > > > > >> Mickey, > > >> John and Polly (Thompson) Caperton had a son Adam born ca 1753. > > >> I have Adam md to Elizabeth Miller a daughter of Jacob Miller Sr. and > > >> Elizabeth Fudge. > > >> I don't know about Alexander, he was a witness to a deed for John and > > >Polly > > >> Caperton who purchased a tract of land in 1755 in the Beverly Manor > tract > > >of > > >> Augusta Co, Va. > > >> > > >> What do you know of Alexander Thompson? > > >> This makes me have two lines of Thompson in Augusta County. > > >> Who is John T. Thompson? Is he connected to Alexander? > > >> > > >> Gay Nix > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >Is John Caperton related to Hugh Adam Caperton b ca 1757? > > >> >Is John T Thompson b 1 Oct 1807 who married Elizabeth H Fudge in > > >Alexander > > >> Thompson line? > > >> >These two lines interrelate with my Miller-Fudge-Tierney-Tool lines. > All > > >of > > >> Augusta CO. in the mid 1700"s. > > >> > > > >> >Mickey > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > >> >**************************************************************** > > >> >List Administrator > > >> >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > >> >**************************************************************** > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > >> **************************************************************** > > >> List Administrator > > >> Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > >> **************************************************************** > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > >**************************************************************** > > >List Administrator > > >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > >**************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > **************************************************************** > > List Administrator > > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > **************************************************************** > > > > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** > >

Marjorie is correct. I hope no one expends too much effort trying to track down records in Illinois prior to 3 Dec 1818, when it became a state and was admitted to the Union. The Territory of Illinois was created by an act of congress in 1809. By territory, I mean wilderness; then known as Illinwek. Previous to this, what we now know as IL belonged to the Commonwealth of Virginia, whose border stretched to present day western Wisconsin. This area was controlled by the French from 1675 until 1763, being reached by the French Jesuit missionaries, Jacques Marquette and Louis Joliet on 20 Jan 1673. The British had a short speight in here towards the end of European control, just. previous to Virginia's accession. So, the county of Hugh Caperton's birth would have been Orange Co, VA, since Augusta was not formed from it until 1778. Marjorie wrote: > Daniel, In 1757, there was no Mattoon nor Coles Co. Illinois. Illinois did > not become a state until 1818; I live in Illinois and I am positive about > this. > > >Gay, > >I have the following: > >Hugh Adam Caperton b. ca 1757 Mattoon, Coles CO., IL > >d. ca 1782 in Estill's Defeat > >m. Elizabeth B. Miller b. ca 1757 Rockingham (Now Augusta CO., VA d. bef > >1828 in KY. > >Elizabeth B Miller was the daughter of Jacob Miller & Elizabeth Fudge. Hugh > >Adam Caperton was her 1st husband. I don't have a marriage date for them. > I > >show that they had 5 children: George b. ca 1777 in Bertie CO., NC; > >Elizabeth; Conrad Caperton b. ca 1779; Hugh Caperton b. ca 1781 Bertie CO., > >NC d. 1847 Trigg CO., KY; and John Caperton b. ca 1785 Bertie CO., NC and > >died bef 1880 in TN. > >As far as the Thompson's are concerned I have some information on the > >Thompson's being buried in the Wolfe Cemetery on J. V.Crenshaw Farm 2 miles > >North of Meadowview, VA. Willis G. Corbitt visited this cemetery in 1959 > >and sent me the following list: > > > >THOMPSON, John Oct 1, 1807-Aug 9, 1878 > >THOMPSON, Elizabeth H (FUDGE) April 1, 1807-July 6, 1880 (his wife) > >THOMPSON, Jane N. July 2, 1814-Jan 21 1873 ? > >THOMPSON, John R. June 22, 1874-Dec 19, 1876 ? > >THOMPSON, Daniel T. March 24, 1888--Aug 23, 1888 > >THOMPSON, Willie Hubert May 13, 1890--Feb 25, 1891 (son > >of S.F. & T.V.) > >THOMPSON, John T. April 20, 1813--June 21, 1813 > >? > >THOMPSON, ? June 18, 1850--? (dau of > >J.T. & E) > >THOMPSON, Adam Fudge June 24, 1835--May 10, 1904 (son > of > >John & E.H.) > >THOMPSON, Elizabeth A. (wife) May 30, 1847--Dec 5, 1888 (dau of > >Robert Thonmpson) > >THOMPSON, Margaret (Snyder) July 18, 1860--? (nd wife of Adam > >F.) > >THOMPSON, James H May 18, 1839--Feb 27, 1922 > (son > >of J & E.H.) > >THOMPSON, Harriet Jane (DUTTON) Nov 10, 1842--July 8, 1909 (wife of > James > >H) > >THOMPSON, Ella A. Oct 22, 1866--Apr 15, 1887 > >(dau of J.H. & H. J.) > >THOMPSON, Paul B Aug 31, 1879--Dec 24, 1879 > ? > >THOMPSON, Uda M. Feb 11, 1881--April 13, 1915 > >? > >I don't know if these were listed in "High on a Windy Hill" by Catherine S. > >McConnell in 1962 or not. > >The only reason I have an interest in John Thompson is because of the > >Fudge-Miller line. > >Happy Hunting, > >Mickey > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Gay and Lyndon Nix" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 3:14 PM > >Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Caperton-Thompson-Miller lines > > > > > >> Mickey, > >> John and Polly (Thompson) Caperton had a son Adam born ca 1753. > >> I have Adam md to Elizabeth Miller a daughter of Jacob Miller Sr. and > >> Elizabeth Fudge. > >> I don't know about Alexander, he was a witness to a deed for John and > >Polly > >> Caperton who purchased a tract of land in 1755 in the Beverly Manor tract > >of > >> Augusta Co, Va. > >> > >> What do you know of Alexander Thompson? > >> This makes me have two lines of Thompson in Augusta County. > >> Who is John T. Thompson? Is he connected to Alexander? > >> > >> Gay Nix > >> > >> > >> > >> >Is John Caperton related to Hugh Adam Caperton b ca 1757? > >> >Is John T Thompson b 1 Oct 1807 who married Elizabeth H Fudge in > >Alexander > >> Thompson line? > >> >These two lines interrelate with my Miller-Fudge-Tierney-Tool lines. All > >of > >> Augusta CO. in the mid 1700"s. > >> > > >> >Mickey > >> > > >> > > >> >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > >> >**************************************************************** > >> >List Administrator > >> >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > >> >**************************************************************** > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > >> **************************************************************** > >> List Administrator > >> Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > >> **************************************************************** > >> > >> > > > > > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > >**************************************************************** > >List Administrator > >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > >**************************************************************** > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** > >

Daniel, In 1757, there was no Mattoon nor Coles Co. Illinois. Illinois did not become a state until 1818; I live in Illinois and I am positive about this. -----Original Message----- From: Daniels <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, October 29, 2004 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Caperton-Thompson-Miller lines >Gay, >I have the following: >Hugh Adam Caperton b. ca 1757 Mattoon, Coles CO., IL >d. ca 1782 in Estill's Defeat >m. Elizabeth B. Miller b. ca 1757 Rockingham (Now Augusta CO., VA d. bef >1828 in KY. >Elizabeth B Miller was the daughter of Jacob Miller & Elizabeth Fudge. Hugh >Adam Caperton was her 1st husband. I don't have a marriage date for them. I >show that they had 5 children: George b. ca 1777 in Bertie CO., NC; >Elizabeth; Conrad Caperton b. ca 1779; Hugh Caperton b. ca 1781 Bertie CO., >NC d. 1847 Trigg CO., KY; and John Caperton b. ca 1785 Bertie CO., NC and >died bef 1880 in TN. >As far as the Thompson's are concerned I have some information on the >Thompson's being buried in the Wolfe Cemetery on J. V.Crenshaw Farm 2 miles >North of Meadowview, VA. Willis G. Corbitt visited this cemetery in 1959 >and sent me the following list: > >THOMPSON, John Oct 1, 1807-Aug 9, 1878 >THOMPSON, Elizabeth H (FUDGE) April 1, 1807-July 6, 1880 (his wife) >THOMPSON, Jane N. July 2, 1814-Jan 21 1873 ? >THOMPSON, John R. June 22, 1874-Dec 19, 1876 ? >THOMPSON, Daniel T. March 24, 1888--Aug 23, 1888 >THOMPSON, Willie Hubert May 13, 1890--Feb 25, 1891 (son >of S.F. & T.V.) >THOMPSON, John T. April 20, 1813--June 21, 1813 >? >THOMPSON, ? June 18, 1850--? (dau of >J.T. & E) >THOMPSON, Adam Fudge June 24, 1835--May 10, 1904 (son of >John & E.H.) >THOMPSON, Elizabeth A. (wife) May 30, 1847--Dec 5, 1888 (dau of >Robert Thonmpson) >THOMPSON, Margaret (Snyder) July 18, 1860--? (nd wife of Adam >F.) >THOMPSON, James H May 18, 1839--Feb 27, 1922 (son >of J & E.H.) >THOMPSON, Harriet Jane (DUTTON) Nov 10, 1842--July 8, 1909 (wife of James >H) >THOMPSON, Ella A. Oct 22, 1866--Apr 15, 1887 >(dau of J.H. & H. J.) >THOMPSON, Paul B Aug 31, 1879--Dec 24, 1879 ? >THOMPSON, Uda M. Feb 11, 1881--April 13, 1915 >? >I don't know if these were listed in "High on a Windy Hill" by Catherine S. >McConnell in 1962 or not. >The only reason I have an interest in John Thompson is because of the >Fudge-Miller line. >Happy Hunting, >Mickey >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gay and Lyndon Nix" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 3:14 PM >Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Caperton-Thompson-Miller lines > > >> Mickey, >> John and Polly (Thompson) Caperton had a son Adam born ca 1753. >> I have Adam md to Elizabeth Miller a daughter of Jacob Miller Sr. and >> Elizabeth Fudge. >> I don't know about Alexander, he was a witness to a deed for John and >Polly >> Caperton who purchased a tract of land in 1755 in the Beverly Manor tract >of >> Augusta Co, Va. >> >> What do you know of Alexander Thompson? >> This makes me have two lines of Thompson in Augusta County. >> Who is John T. Thompson? Is he connected to Alexander? >> >> Gay Nix >> >> >> >> >Is John Caperton related to Hugh Adam Caperton b ca 1757? >> >Is John T Thompson b 1 Oct 1807 who married Elizabeth H Fudge in >Alexander >> Thompson line? >> >These two lines interrelate with my Miller-Fudge-Tierney-Tool lines. All >of >> Augusta CO. in the mid 1700"s. >> > >> >Mickey >> > >> > >> >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >> >**************************************************************** >> >List Administrator >> >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >> >**************************************************************** >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >> **************************************************************** >> List Administrator >> Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >> **************************************************************** >> >> > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >**************************************************************** >

Hi Linda! Try this web page http://www.genealogyatlas.com/ Sincerely, Kailani Craig Knutson Researching CRAIG Family and descendants in Augusta County ----- Original Message ----- From: "LinLB5" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 10:26 PM Subject: [VAAUGUST] Staunton map > Hi All > > Does anyone have a link to an early Staunton map - somewhere in the time period of 1800 to 1850? I have looked at current maps and cannot find Port Republic Road. I know there is a Port Republic Road from Waynesboro going north. However, the deeds that I am looking at state that it is by Lewis Creek about 2 and 1/2 miles east of Staunton which is the wrong direction and distance for Waynesboro. > > Thank you for your help. > > Linda B. Morin > [email protected] > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** >

In a message dated 10/29/2004 2:17:58 PM US Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Mickey are you sure of the place of birth for Hugh? I have the following: Hugh Adam Caperton b. ca 1757 Mattoon, Coles CO., IL d. ca 1782 in Estill's Defeat m. Elizabeth B. Miller b. ca 1757 Rockingham (Now Augusta CO., VA d. bef 1828 in KY.

Gay, I have the following: Hugh Adam Caperton b. ca 1757 Mattoon, Coles CO., IL d. ca 1782 in Estill's Defeat m. Elizabeth B. Miller b. ca 1757 Rockingham (Now Augusta CO., VA d. bef 1828 in KY. Elizabeth B Miller was the daughter of Jacob Miller & Elizabeth Fudge. Hugh Adam Caperton was her 1st husband. I don't have a marriage date for them. I show that they had 5 children: George b. ca 1777 in Bertie CO., NC; Elizabeth; Conrad Caperton b. ca 1779; Hugh Caperton b. ca 1781 Bertie CO., NC d. 1847 Trigg CO., KY; and John Caperton b. ca 1785 Bertie CO., NC and died bef 1880 in TN. As far as the Thompson's are concerned I have some information on the Thompson's being buried in the Wolfe Cemetery on J. V.Crenshaw Farm 2 miles North of Meadowview, VA. Willis G. Corbitt visited this cemetery in 1959 and sent me the following list: THOMPSON, John Oct 1, 1807-Aug 9, 1878 THOMPSON, Elizabeth H (FUDGE) April 1, 1807-July 6, 1880 (his wife) THOMPSON, Jane N. July 2, 1814-Jan 21 1873 ? THOMPSON, John R. June 22, 1874-Dec 19, 1876 ? THOMPSON, Daniel T. March 24, 1888--Aug 23, 1888 THOMPSON, Willie Hubert May 13, 1890--Feb 25, 1891 (son of S.F. & T.V.) THOMPSON, John T. April 20, 1813--June 21, 1813 ? THOMPSON, ? June 18, 1850--? (dau of J.T. & E) THOMPSON, Adam Fudge June 24, 1835--May 10, 1904 (son of John & E.H.) THOMPSON, Elizabeth A. (wife) May 30, 1847--Dec 5, 1888 (dau of Robert Thonmpson) THOMPSON, Margaret (Snyder) July 18, 1860--? (nd wife of Adam F.) THOMPSON, James H May 18, 1839--Feb 27, 1922 (son of J & E.H.) THOMPSON, Harriet Jane (DUTTON) Nov 10, 1842--July 8, 1909 (wife of James H) THOMPSON, Ella A. Oct 22, 1866--Apr 15, 1887 (dau of J.H. & H. J.) THOMPSON, Paul B Aug 31, 1879--Dec 24, 1879 ? THOMPSON, Uda M. Feb 11, 1881--April 13, 1915 ? I don't know if these were listed in "High on a Windy Hill" by Catherine S. McConnell in 1962 or not. The only reason I have an interest in John Thompson is because of the Fudge-Miller line. Happy Hunting, Mickey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gay and Lyndon Nix" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Caperton-Thompson-Miller lines > Mickey, > John and Polly (Thompson) Caperton had a son Adam born ca 1753. > I have Adam md to Elizabeth Miller a daughter of Jacob Miller Sr. and > Elizabeth Fudge. > I don't know about Alexander, he was a witness to a deed for John and Polly > Caperton who purchased a tract of land in 1755 in the Beverly Manor tract of > Augusta Co, Va. > > What do you know of Alexander Thompson? > This makes me have two lines of Thompson in Augusta County. > Who is John T. Thompson? Is he connected to Alexander? > > Gay Nix > > > > >Is John Caperton related to Hugh Adam Caperton b ca 1757? > >Is John T Thompson b 1 Oct 1807 who married Elizabeth H Fudge in Alexander > Thompson line? > >These two lines interrelate with my Miller-Fudge-Tierney-Tool lines. All of > Augusta CO. in the mid 1700"s. > > > >Mickey > > > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > >**************************************************************** > >List Administrator > >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > >**************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** > >

Susie - I believe Orange is one of the burned counties - at least partially. Orange is the county seat of Orange County, and Staunton is the county seat of Augusta County... Diane from Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Phone number courthouse > Mark, > Try this number 540-332-3874 - Carol - > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Allen" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 12:12 PM > Subject: [VAAUGUST] Phone number courthouse > > > > Does anyone have the a phone number to the > > Augusta Co. courthouse that I can use to talk > > to a clerk with knowledge of land records > > dating to 1743? The USGENWEB county > > site says to send a stamped/addressed envelope > > and they will respond. I'd rather talk to someone > > directly. A name of an experienced clerk would > > be appreciated. > > > > Does anyone know where the records for Augusta > > are from it's formation in 1738 until they had their > > own courthouse in 1745? I know Augusta formed > > from Orange in 1738 and there are supposed to be > > records from Augusta in Orange for this time period. > > I have reviewed the microfilm index for Orange and > > the names I'm looking for are not listed. > > > > BODKIN CARLILE ESTILL > > > > Knowing that Augusta would need their own copies > > of Orange records from 1738-1745 did Orange keep > > separate books that were supposed to be sent to > > Augusta? > > > > > > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > **************************************************************** > > List Administrator > > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > **************************************************************** > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** > >

Augusta County Clerk 6 E. Johnson St. Staunton, VA 24401-4301 Telephone: (540) 245-5321 ---------- QUAt 11:12 AM 10/28/04 -0500, you wrote: >Does anyone have the a phone number to the >Augusta Co. courthouse that I can use to talk >to a clerk with knowledge of land records >dating to 1743? The USGENWEB county >site says to send a stamped/addressed envelope >and they will respond. I'd rather talk to someone >directly. A name of an experienced clerk would >be appreciated. > >Does anyone know where the records for Augusta >are from it's formation in 1738 until they had their >own courthouse in 1745? I know Augusta formed >from Orange in 1738 and there are supposed to be >records from Augusta in Orange for this time period. >I have reviewed the microfilm index for Orange and >the names I'm looking for are not listed. > >BODKIN CARLILE ESTILL > >Knowing that Augusta would need their own copies >of Orange records from 1738-1745 did Orange keep >separate books that were supposed to be sent to >Augusta? > > > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** >List Administrator >Barbara Stanley - [email protected] >****************************************************************

Mark, Try this number 540-332-3874 - Carol - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Allen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 12:12 PM Subject: [VAAUGUST] Phone number courthouse > Does anyone have the a phone number to the > Augusta Co. courthouse that I can use to talk > to a clerk with knowledge of land records > dating to 1743? The USGENWEB county > site says to send a stamped/addressed envelope > and they will respond. I'd rather talk to someone > directly. A name of an experienced clerk would > be appreciated. > > Does anyone know where the records for Augusta > are from it's formation in 1738 until they had their > own courthouse in 1745? I know Augusta formed > from Orange in 1738 and there are supposed to be > records from Augusta in Orange for this time period. > I have reviewed the microfilm index for Orange and > the names I'm looking for are not listed. > > BODKIN CARLILE ESTILL > > Knowing that Augusta would need their own copies > of Orange records from 1738-1745 did Orange keep > separate books that were supposed to be sent to > Augusta? > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** >

Does anyone have the a phone number to the Augusta Co. courthouse that I can use to talk to a clerk with knowledge of land records dating to 1743? The USGENWEB county site says to send a stamped/addressed envelope and they will respond. I'd rather talk to someone directly. A name of an experienced clerk would be appreciated. Does anyone know where the records for Augusta are from it's formation in 1738 until they had their own courthouse in 1745? I know Augusta formed from Orange in 1738 and there are supposed to be records from Augusta in Orange for this time period. I have reviewed the microfilm index for Orange and the names I'm looking for are not listed. BODKIN CARLILE ESTILL Knowing that Augusta would need their own copies of Orange records from 1738-1745 did Orange keep separate books that were supposed to be sent to Augusta?

Where exactly was Beverly Manor located? I don't see it on any current maps. I have a map of Staunton and the surrounding area but nothing with this name. It appears in census in early 1900's and my guess it is actually part of Staunton. Ken & Nancy Pascal [email protected] > [Original Message] > From: Floyd R. Mason <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 10/27/2004 3:14:08 PM > Subject: Re: [VAAUGUST] Mullins and McMullen > > Jeri..........I don't know if they tie into the Mullins of KY. > We don't have much info. > Floyd R & Kathryn G. Mason > 115 E. Rainbow Drive > Bridgewater, VA 22812-1733 > See our Web Page > http://home.rica.net/masonf3150/ > Phone 540-828-4617 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeri Taylor" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 1:33 PM > Subject: [VAAUGUST] Mullins and McMullen > > > > Do the Mullins family of KY and TN tie into the early McMullen VA > families? I am curious because I know that some of the names have many > variations over the years. Thank you, > > > > Jeri > > KY > > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > > **************************************************************** > > List Administrator > > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > > **************************************************************** > > > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > ****************************************************************

Jeri..........I don't know if they tie into the Mullins of KY. We don't have much info. Floyd R & Kathryn G. Mason 115 E. Rainbow Drive Bridgewater, VA 22812-1733 See our Web Page http://home.rica.net/masonf3150/ Phone 540-828-4617 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeri Taylor" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 1:33 PM Subject: [VAAUGUST] Mullins and McMullen > Do the Mullins family of KY and TN tie into the early McMullen VA families? I am curious because I know that some of the names have many variations over the years. Thank you, > > Jeri > KY > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** >

It has been suggested to me that Ann Elliot, dau. of William (d. 1771 Aug. Co) & Jane Clark Elliot, was married to a Paul Dupais. Can anyone confirm this? Since the Ann Elliot who was the dau. of James & Ann Armstrong Elliot has been identified as the one who married Robert Kincaid, I am at a loss to place the Ann Elliot who married William Kincaid (d 1794 Jackson River). I had thought it might be William/Jean Clark Elliot since William/Anne Kincaid did have a 1st dau. named Jean. There is a James Elliot in the immediate Jackson River neighborhood, along side of Kincaids who eventually show up next to James Elliot on Anthony Creek.. Any help in straightening the Elliots out would be appreciated. Sue in Newport ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 7:06 AM Subject: [VAAUGUST] Re: VAAUGUST-D Digest V04 #145 > I am interested in the Elliotts/Eliotts/Eletts/etc. who were in early > Augusta County, VA. > [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > > > ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== > **************************************************************** > List Administrator > Barbara Stanley - [email protected] > **************************************************************** >

It would West Miller with an s. He shows up in Greenbrier Co. on Indian Creek (n side near what is now Greenville, Monroe Co. WVA) next to a John Miller. I believe some of Agnes' brothers show up in the 2nd Creek/Sinks area of present Monroe Co. Actually I could use some help with these families (connecting them into the Glenn & Young families of Augusta. (There are a David & James Glenn in Albemarle in the 1760's. Do they connect to the George Glenn who was son-in-law to James Young d 1790 Aug. Co.?). The following appear to be the children of George Glenn. (d. 1801 Aug. Co. children: Agnes wife of West Miller, James, William, Sarah wife of Robert Young, Martha, Hugh, Nancy, Mary wife of Sam Curry). Who are the Youngs they are intermarrying with? 1791 Henry & Nancy Douglas 44a in Sinks near 2nd Creek to James Glenn. 1793. Rbt. McCullock of Aug. Co. 400a to James Young of Greenbrier & William Young of Augusta Co. Land adj. Mathew Gwinn, Danial Terry, Henry Douglas, Richard Humphries. Witnesses: James Glenn, Robert Young, Hugh Glenn, Robert Curry. 1793 Grbr. will of Samuel Brown. Mother, bros: Alex, John, Wm. sisters: Margaret, Sally, Martha Dorthe, Mary Nelson wintnessess: James Glenn, James Young, Margaret Glenn. the will was proved by James & Margaret Glenn. Morton in the geneological section of the "History of Monroe Co." (note Morton's bios & geneologies are not always correct) says the Young family arrived in the Sinks area about 1788. James Young m Susan Dickson, Rbt Young d 1815 m Sarah Glenn 1792, Wm m Susanna Clark 1788, Margaret Young m James Glenn. Of Andrew, Sarah & Lydia no record is found. Morton thinks they may be the sons of William & Jean Young who lived on Hans Creek (near present Greenville, Monroe Co. WVA). William d. 1802 mentioning in his will son James, and daughters: Sarah, Elizabeth, Jean Cook and Nancy Kincaid. I am not sure this is correct. Does anyone have any suggestions as to who this William Young is? Nancy is the wife of John Kincaid. They move to Campbell Co. TN in about 1802. In about 1810 they have as Campbell Co. neighbors James (son of James & Margaret Miller of Wolf Creek & Indian Creek Monroe Co.) & Elizabeth (dau. of Andrew Kincaid d 1810 GrBr). James may be the cousin of West Miller above. Andrew Kincaid lived in the Sinks area of present Monroe Co. during the late 1780's before moving to Anthony Creek in present GrBr Co. Sue in Newport > Sue, > Yes, I have a set of Chalkley's and I pour through them almost every > evening, I love those books, best investment I ever made. The George Glenn > and James Young you mentioned are my 6th & 7th great grandfathers. I have > Nancy Agnes married to Wert Miller, Nancy Agnes was a sister of my William > Glenn, I don't have anything else on either Nancy Agnes or Wert other than > getting their names out of Chalkley's (will of George Vol III page 243) > Please keep me in mind and I will do the same, should I find more on them. > Mary Lee > Gallipolis, Ohio >

Opps Sorry Michael I didn't read this one before I sent the last email. It was good for a laugh anyway :) Glenda Jackson was an actress long ago!! Glenda My apologies ... the site is Glenda Lambert-Gibson's. Was talking to my mother-in-law who was a Jackson when I typed in the earlier reference to Glenda's name. Sorry Glenda!! Michael