This film charts the history of the American eugenics program under > which 80,000 inmates in state institutions have been compulsorily > sterilized. In Virginia between 1905 and 1972, several thousand children > deemed by the state as unfit to reproduce were taken from their families > and forced to live in the Lynchburg Colony. Victims recall their > experiences of beatings, solitary confinement and other abuses. > >  > > The film was made in 1993 and can be checked out from the Virginia Tech > library in Blacksburg, VA or probably requested through Interlibrary > Loan from a number of other schools.  Thanks, AND, This is of no concern??? Seem that it should concern many people. JUST think, 80,000 X 26 = 2,80,000 The 26 is the Descendants from the Man that I previously Mentioned. I do believe that this should be of Genealogical Concern. CUZ A T Powell, <[email protected]> > COUSIN A T <[email protected]>

Thanks for the information. I do think it is a shame that the whole story of the colony is not known to most people. When I saw the film I was almost ashamed to admit I was from Lynchburg. I know people who still work there, and frankly, I don't think the treatment and concern for the clients there has changed much over the years. <NAME IS AVAILABLE> You see Cousins, You forgot to <ASK & ANSWER QUESTIONS SOMEONE KNOWS> I surely hope that your Family missed this Terrible BIT of Reality, nut every family was not so fortunate. OH but it did affect many families. THE ostrich mind set just does not apply. THE simple Minded BLOG bit is the same sweep under the RUG Idea that Our Churches & Officialdom have had for, too many years. <NO> Well why has there been no condemnation of this inhuman, Official Policy, Yes I know Someone took it to Court, but the things that are best taken to the grave, well, this is not one of those thing's. NOW just how can one say that this sordid bit of our past has not had any effect on any ones genealogy. A T Powell <[email protected]>

The Virginia eugenic sterilization law was challenged in the Supreme Court on the grounds that it violated the principle of equal protection since it applied only to institutionalized persons. Oliver Wendell Holmes spoke directly to this concern in Buck v. Bell. Holmes pointed out that the Virginia compulsory sterilization law sought to sterilize all persons with hereditary defects, not just those institutionalized. It did not violate the equal protection clause because "the law does all that is needed when it does all that it can." The law, he said, clearly sought to bring all "similarly situated so far and so fast as its means allow" under its jurisdiction.(15) The Commonwealth of Virginia aimed to sterilize only those who could "be safely discharged or paroled and become self-supporting with benefit to themselves and to society." Carrie Buck was institutionalized only after she became pregnant. She was released immediately after she was sterilized. Her sister, Doris Buck, was brought to the state colony specifically to be sterilized and was released immediately after her sterilization. It was clear that the provision in the law to sterilize institutionalized persons was not meant to restrict the population, of those to be sterilized.(16) American Support for Eugenics Does this have any Effect on our Genealogy, WELL COUSINS I know for a fact there are 26 Descendants from a man that missed Sterilization, By a Bit Of Concern By the Family Dr. There are 26 Descendants from that Man; There were 3 Mother's 9 Children, 10 Grand Children, 1 Father, 2 Sons, & 2 Grand Son's THIS Happened in 1940 & UP until now. This Has A Great deal to do with the Genealogy of This Family & will for years to come. NOW please; JUST who of My many Cousins, is it that knows that there has never been, no such thing to happen in any of the rest of our PAST Families? This is up to now 26 Relitives______ That would have never existed________IF THAT unnecessary Sterilization had Taken place, SO you see Cousins, When the Blank can be filled in, the unknown Past <DOES LOOK SO MUCH DIFFERENT> Hey I am not shouting, Life just looks so much different without wonder??? Please Comment. A T <[email protected]>

Thanks to all of you for your suggestions for my recent trip to Amherst. The Historical Museum was terrific and the people so nice. The library in Lynchburg was very helpful, also. I am afraid I did not find my ancestor, John Henry Ricketts, but I will keep plugging away! Thanks so much for all the tips - it is a lovely area of VA., especially this time of year. Happy Hunting, Marlene Avery

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BAC.2ACE/1420.2 Message Board Post: Central Virginia Training Center is located in Madison Heights, Virginia which is part of Amherst County. This is now a state ICF MR facility but was established in the early 1900's. The telephone number is 434 947-6000. There is also a cemetery located on the campus.

Thanks for the information. I do think it is a shame that the whole story of the colony is not known to most people. When I saw the film I was almost ashamed to admit I was from Lynchburg. I know people who still work there, and frankly, I don't think the treatment and concern for the clients there has changed much over the years. > > From: "Lucado, Mary" <[email protected]> > Date: 2006/10/19 Thu AM 11:54:33 EDT > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [VAAMHERS] Virginia State Epileptic Colony > > There is a video called "The Lynchburg Story" that may be the program > you're talking about. The blurb from the cover is: > > > > This film charts the history of the American eugenics program under > which 80,000 inmates in state institutions have been compulsorily > sterilized. In Virginia between 1905 and 1972, several thousand children > deemed by the state as unfit to reproduce were taken from their families > and forced to live in the Lynchburg Colony. Victims recall their > experiences of beatings, solitary confinement and other abuses. > > > > The film was made in 1993 and can be checked out from the Virginia Tech > library in Blacksburg, VA or probably requested through Interlibrary > Loan from a number of other schools. Thanks, Mary > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 5:57 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [VAAMHERS] Virginia State Epileptic Colony > > > > I read the site about Virginia Training School. But in none of the > things said about it, was it mentioned that the early days of Virginia > Trainig School's sterilization program was the pattern by which Adolph > Hitler copied for his making of the "Master Race". There was a film > made about this and shown on TV a number of years ago. I was born and > grew up in Lynchburg, and was very surprised to hear that Hitler was > invited to visit, did so, and adopted the plan for his own use. Does > anyone know all the facts and truth about this situation who could > enlighten us about what occurred? Tina > > > > > > From: Amanda Hulse <[email protected]> > > > Date: 2006/10/18 Wed AM 09:13:19 EDT > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [VAAMHERS] Virginia State Epileptic Colony > > > > > > Here is a link explaining the history of this facilty - > http://www.cvtc.dmhmrsas.virginia.gov/feedback.htm > > > > > > Also if you run a yahoo search for "central virginia training > center"+"Mein Kampf" you might find the resulting message board/article > contains a posting by "Guru". This should explain more. > > > > > > I do not have specific expertise on this subject - just knew exactly > where to find the info. So please direct any specific questions to > these sources. Thanks! > > > > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BAC.2ACE/1420 > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > I found a Great-Uncle in the 1930 Census for Amherst County, in the > Va. State Epileptic Colony as an inmate. My family never knew what > happned to him, they knew he was in that part of the state, but that was > all. He was from Russell Co. Va., and all of the family that knew him > personally is gone now. I do have a picture of him. Does anyone know how > I could find any information as as to the residents of this institution? > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I read the site about Virginia Training School. But in none of the things said about it, was it mentioned that the early days of Virginia Trainig School's sterilization program was the pattern by which Adolph Hitler copied for his making of the "Master Race".  There was a film made about this and shown on TV a number of years ago. I was born and grew up in Lynchburg, and was very surprised to hear that Hitler was invited to visit, did so, and adopted the plan for his own use. Does anyone know all the facts and truth about this situation who could enlighten us about what occurred? Tina THIS Black shadow is real. IT will touch some family genealogy. AS it has been swept under the RUG for oh so many YEARS. I just hope IF it ever shows up in any way Connected, Being as it ended in 1972 Hopefully it can be dealt with, not as a Dancing Skeleton, But be Fazed in to our Research, with some kind of <acceptable> understanding, COUSINS it was real & most revolting when Thoroughly understood for just what it was. The Mental Problem was the Manner that was used in a Mindless Approach to the Solution of a problem that did not exist. Hitler decided that the Gas Chamber was Faster. COUSIN'S, you may not equate this with Genealogy BUT it is a fact of life That came closer to more Americans than Most of us realize. Because Va, was not the ONLY State to practice this disregard for the human being. If one has a problem believing this, Please E-MAIL Me I will give you a Posting of the Name of the States that Practiced RACE cleansing. CUZ A T <[email protected]>

There is a video called "The Lynchburg Story" that may be the program you're talking about. The blurb from the cover is: This film charts the history of the American eugenics program under which 80,000 inmates in state institutions have been compulsorily sterilized. In Virginia between 1905 and 1972, several thousand children deemed by the state as unfit to reproduce were taken from their families and forced to live in the Lynchburg Colony. Victims recall their experiences of beatings, solitary confinement and other abuses. The film was made in 1993 and can be checked out from the Virginia Tech library in Blacksburg, VA or probably requested through Interlibrary Loan from a number of other schools. Thanks, Mary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 5:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VAAMHERS] Virginia State Epileptic Colony I read the site about Virginia Training School. But in none of the things said about it, was it mentioned that the early days of Virginia Trainig School's sterilization program was the pattern by which Adolph Hitler copied for his making of the "Master Race". There was a film made about this and shown on TV a number of years ago. I was born and grew up in Lynchburg, and was very surprised to hear that Hitler was invited to visit, did so, and adopted the plan for his own use. Does anyone know all the facts and truth about this situation who could enlighten us about what occurred? Tina > > From: Amanda Hulse <[email protected]> > Date: 2006/10/18 Wed AM 09:13:19 EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [VAAMHERS] Virginia State Epileptic Colony > > Here is a link explaining the history of this facilty - http://www.cvtc.dmhmrsas.virginia.gov/feedback.htm > > Also if you run a yahoo search for "central virginia training center"+"Mein Kampf" you might find the resulting message board/article contains a posting by "Guru". This should explain more. > > I do not have specific expertise on this subject - just knew exactly where to find the info. So please direct any specific questions to these sources. Thanks! > > [email protected] wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BAC.2ACE/1420 > > Message Board Post: > > I found a Great-Uncle in the 1930 Census for Amherst County, in the Va. State Epileptic Colony as an inmate. My family never knew what happned to him, they knew he was in that part of the state, but that was all. He was from Russell Co. Va., and all of the family that knew him personally is gone now. I do have a picture of him. Does anyone know how I could find any information as as to the residents of this institution? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I read the site about Virginia Training School. But in none of the things said about it, was it mentioned that the early days of Virginia Trainig School's sterilization program was the pattern by which Adolph Hitler copied for his making of the "Master Race". There was a film made about this and shown on TV a number of years ago. I was born and grew up in Lynchburg, and was very surprised to hear that Hitler was invited to visit, did so, and adopted the plan for his own use. Does anyone know all the facts and truth about this situation who could enlighten us about what occurred? Tina > > From: Amanda Hulse <[email protected]> > Date: 2006/10/18 Wed AM 09:13:19 EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [VAAMHERS] Virginia State Epileptic Colony > > Here is a link explaining the history of this facilty - http://www.cvtc.dmhmrsas.virginia.gov/feedback.htm > > Also if you run a yahoo search for "central virginia training center"+"Mein Kampf" you might find the resulting message board/article contains a posting by "Guru". This should explain more. > > I do not have specific expertise on this subject - just knew exactly where to find the info. So please direct any specific questions to these sources. Thanks! > > [email protected] wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BAC.2ACE/1420 > > Message Board Post: > > I found a Great-Uncle in the 1930 Census for Amherst County, in the Va. State Epileptic Colony as an inmate. My family never knew what happned to him, they knew he was in that part of the state, but that was all. He was from Russell Co. Va., and all of the family that knew him personally is gone now. I do have a picture of him. Does anyone know how I could find any information as as to the residents of this institution? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I saw your notes and that you had Tomlin's in your family. I am very interested in them. My great grandmother was named Dorothy Tomlin Waller which makes me think that perhaps a generation or two back there were Tomlin's in my family. So I am looking for any Tomlin's that perhaps married into the Waller or Rowzie family. Tina > > From: [email protected] > Date: 2006/10/18 Wed PM 12:37:40 EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [VAAMHERS] Floyd family history > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BAC.2ACE/1409.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > I sent a reply to the person who had questions about the "colony" near Lynchburg but I'm intrigued by your entry too. My mom had a sister, Julie, who married Zander (Alexander!) Floyd. I recently had a visit from one of her grandchildren who supplied me with pictures and obits for the family which I was missing. She also showed up at our reunion with her sister! I don't know a lot about the Floyd family but I am a Lawhorne/Lawhorn/Laugharne from Amherst County and I am related to many Statons and Tomlins so we may have a connection. > > Please let me know if we can help each other. > > Alice Lawhorne Lilley > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Please Type Elon State Epileptic Colony: in to your Search; Then Click onto Health Institution, Va. Search This. DARK PAST; Plecker in the Office of Vital Statistics, Dr. DeJarnett At Western Hospital, & The CLICK, at Training Center WERE into Race Purification From 1924, For ANY non believers Just ask The Native American's IN VA. Please Give the Presley Family a Good bit of Attention A T <[email protected]>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Drinkard, Abbott Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BAC.2ACE/1420.1 Message Board Post: http://www.cvtc.dmhmrsas.virginia.gov/feedback.htm

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BAC.2ACE/1409.1.1 Message Board Post: I sent a reply to the person who had questions about the "colony" near Lynchburg but I'm intrigued by your entry too. My mom had a sister, Julie, who married Zander (Alexander!) Floyd. I recently had a visit from one of her grandchildren who supplied me with pictures and obits for the family which I was missing. She also showed up at our reunion with her sister! I don't know a lot about the Floyd family but I am a Lawhorne/Lawhorn/Laugharne from Amherst County and I am related to many Statons and Tomlins so we may have a connection. Please let me know if we can help each other. Alice Lawhorne Lilley [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BAC.2ACE/1422 Message Board Post: My mom's last sister, Aunt Laura, worked at the "colony" for a couple of years. I also had a cousin, daughter of my Uncle Walker who was a resident for many years. I talked to Aunt Laura's daughter this morning but she remembers very little about it. I also talked to the sister of the resident who visited the "colony" and her sister on a regular basis. It was by this time and still is called a "training center". I was a kid and was told that my cousin was retarded. She certainly had that appearance but was very helpful to both the staff and other residents of the colony. I remember Aunt Laura talking about visiting with her every day. I didn't realize until a few years ago that Josephine was not retarded but was very pretty and quite active until she developed POLIO at an early age which left her crippled on one side. It was the SURGERY which they talked her parents into that caused the epilepsy which caused her later condition . I do have pictures of her as a normal child ! and then as a retarded adult when she visited us. During her father's lifetime, she stayed at home but once he was gone, she was committed to the "colony" where she was a resident for many years. She was , in old age, forced out of the colony into a local nursing home where she lived on to age 65. I looked at the history recommended by a correspondent of your site and also consulted the cemetary site but did not call the police department recommended because Josephine did not die there and would not be a part of that anyhow. If I can be of some lmited help to anybody I'll be glad to help. Alice Lawhorne Lilley [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BAC.2ACE/1421 Message Board Post: My mom's last sister, Aunt Laura, worked at the "colony" for a couple of years. I also had a cousin, daughter of my Uncle Walker who was a resident for many years. I talked to Aunt Laura's daughter this morning but she remembers very little about it. I also talked to the sister of the resident who visited the "colony" and her sister on a regular basis. It was by this time and still is called a "training center". I was a kid and was told that my cousin was retarded. She certainly had that appearance but was very helpful to both the staff and other residents of the colony. I remember Aunt Laura talking about visiting with her every day. I didn't realize until a few years ago that Josephine was not retarded but was very pretty and quite active until she developed POLIO at an early age which left her crippled on one side. It was the SURGERY which they talked her parents into that caused the epilepsy which caused her later condition . I do have pictures of her as a normal child ! and then as a retarded adult when she visited us. During her father's lifetime, she stayed at home but once he was gone, she was committed to the "colony" where she was a resident for many years. She was , in old age, forced out of the colony into a local nursing home where she lived on to age 65. I looked at the history recommended by a correspondent of your site and also consulted the cemetary site but did not call the police department recommended because Josephine did not die there and would not be a part of that anyhow. If I can be of some lmited help to anybody I'll be glad to help. Alice Lawhorne Lilley [email protected]

Here is a link explaining the history of this facilty - http://www.cvtc.dmhmrsas.virginia.gov/feedback.htm Also if you run a yahoo search for "central virginia training center"+"Mein Kampf" you might find the resulting message board/article contains a posting by "Guru". This should explain more. I do not have specific expertise on this subject - just knew exactly where to find the info. So please direct any specific questions to these sources. Thanks! [email protected] wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BAC.2ACE/1420 Message Board Post: I found a Great-Uncle in the 1930 Census for Amherst County, in the Va. State Epileptic Colony as an inmate. My family never knew what happned to him, they knew he was in that part of the state, but that was all. He was from Russell Co. Va., and all of the family that knew him personally is gone now. I do have a picture of him. Does anyone know how I could find any information as as to the residents of this institution? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BAC.2ACE/1420 Message Board Post: I found a Great-Uncle in the 1930 Census for Amherst County, in the Va. State Epileptic Colony as an inmate. My family never knew what happned to him, they knew he was in that part of the state, but that was all. He was from Russell Co. Va., and all of the family that knew him personally is gone now. I do have a picture of him. Does anyone know how I could find any information as as to the residents of this institution?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BAC.2ACE/1162.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I, too, am interested in information from the Elon Epileptic Colony. I have found a relative of my husband's who was also listed as a resident in the 1930 census. Thanks.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BAC.2ACE/1039.2.2.1 Message Board Post: I'm sorry , I don't know what you mean. Is she related to the Litchfords or Coopers . Maybe I can Help. Helen Let me know.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BAC.2ACE/1039.2.2 Message Board Post: when and where was mollie elizabeth carterborn? and was this her only marriage?