I am sorry to hear that Scott Vail passed away. I remember him as a boy when his father ran the flour mill at Sandidges Post Office. He became an architect and he designed the Amherst County Coat of Arms. Joe Ware, A Virginian in Texas

Thanks Holly Very sorry to hear about Scott. I do appreciate any assistance you can provide verifying the locating of this gravesite. Doug

To those inquiring about Scott Vail, I regret to inform you that he passed away some time ago. I am making inquiries as to finding out who can relate to you more information about the cemetery. I appreciate your patience! Holly _____________________________ Holly Mills, MA, MLS Amherst County Museum & Historical Society Post Office Box 741 Amherst, VA 24521 Phone: (434) 946-9068 http://members.aol.com/achmuseum

Of the other 3 girls, I have Jane who married Joseph Rohr.  Lucinda married Addison S. Massie, m. 11-17-1856.  Sophia Emily, I do not have any marriage for her.  However, I think I have found a marriage which would work, William H. Bowling married Sophie E. Campbell on 13 Nov 1850 Nelson Co VA. Did I guess right? Concerning Campbell-Patterson marriages: Of the 13 children of George and Caty Campbell, of Amherst Co VA, there were 2 of them that married a Patterson: 1. Joel married Peggy Patterson, 6-13-1799, d/o Betsey. 2. Samuel married Christine Patterson, 1-21-1793 3. Mary married Alexander Patterson, 7-12-1797 I wish there were some PATTERSON family researchers who would give us a list of kids, and descendants, for these 3 unions.  Also, were these 3 Patterson folks all related? The Patterson family, were they mainly located in Rockbridge Co VA? Best regards, HELLO, WE are hoping that there is someone with a Connection To these Campbell's & Patternson's. AW Come on Cousins, These were Great Ancestors, Lets not have them Go Forgotten. CUZ A T <[email protected]>

In response to Bettie Wm L Millner 1816-1886

I am looking for the parents of Rebecca Loula Richardson from Martinsville, Va. b. 16 Mar 1931 and d. 10 May 1984. I believe her parents are John Minter Richardson and Rebecca McGehee Martin. Can anyone give me any information about them, or where they are buried in Martinsville? Many thanks for any help you have. Ernestine

Howdy Fellow AMHERST COUNTIAN, TRY: <[email protected]> Holly Mills, She should be able to Put you in touch with Scot Vail. A T Powell <[email protected]> WE Live in Richmond Va

Doug, Do you have the first and middle name of the Millner. Thanks for any help you can give me. Bettie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BAC.2ACE/1424.1 Message Board Post: While searching for this group of graves I photographed the stones in the cemetery directly across from Piney Hills Church. They are all Burks except one which is Millner. The only tombstone I could not photograph is the mother's which was broken and laying flat. I will be glad to send them to anyone that wants them but suggest you need a highspeed connection. Doug

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hall, Rakes, Raikes, O'Brien, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BAC.2ACE/1424 Message Board Post: On page 159 of the subject document is a description of several marked and unmarked graves nr Pleasant View. Several of us tried to find this site in mid-Oct. and were not sucessful. This Cemetery was reported by Scott Vail. Does anyone know how to get intouch with this individual? I am going to be back in the area in Dec and want to try again to find this site but would like to confirm the accuracy of and the date of this description. Thanks Doug

Get to Know Your County Van Tour! Saturday 28 October Galt's Mills, Poplar Grove, Beulah Church & more! Call the Museum at 434-946-9068 for details or to sign up! This tour is a free tour! Vans leave from the County Administration Building (in the Town of Amherst) at 9 a.m. and will return about 2 p.m. Please bring a box/bag lunch. We will be touring Riverville, Allen's Creek, Galt's Mill and much more! Donations to assist with costs are gratefully accepted. To reserve your seat, please call the Museum at 434-946-9068. Holly Mills, MA, MLS Amherst County Museum & Historical Society Post Office Box 741 Amherst, VA 24521 Phone: (434) 946-9068 http://members.aol.com/achmuseum

Thank you this heads up. I wish I could be there for this trip. Phyllis Teels ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 6:26 AM Subject: [VAAMHERS] This Saturday Get to Know Your County Van Tour sponsoredby Amherst County Museu > > Get to Know Your County Van Tour! > > Saturday 28 October > Galt's Mills, Poplar Grove, Beulah Church & more! > Call the Museum at 434-946-9068 for details or to sign up! > > This tour is a free tour! Vans leave from the County Administration Building > (in the Town of Amherst) at 9 a.m. and will return about 2 p.m. Please bring > a box/bag lunch. We will be touring Riverville, Allen's Creek, Galt's Mill > and much more! Donations to assist with costs are gratefully accepted. > > To reserve your seat, please call the Museum at 434-946-9068. > > > > > > > > Holly Mills, MA, MLS > Amherst County Museum & Historical Society > Post Office Box 741 > Amherst, VA 24521 > Phone: (434) 946-9068 > http://members.aol.com/achmuseum > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BAC.2ACE/1335.1.1 Message Board Post: I'm sorry to report that, after doing quite a bit of research for a lady in Canada, she apparently lost interest and has not contacted me for some while. Otherwise I have no interest in the Higginbotham surname.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BAC.2ACE/1423 Message Board Post: I recently read in the Amherst paper that the Colony was building additional buildings on their site near Madison Hts.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Craig Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BAC.2ACE/1335.1 Message Board Post: I have very sketchy information about the Higgenbothams, but am also trying to get more. My 5 G Grandfather's brother was Aaron Higginbotham and had a daughter named Margared. I have no information about her dates of birth, death, marriage. She was apparently born after her brother Aaron, whose date of birth I have is 1752. Her parents would have been Aaron (1720-1785) and Clara Graves Higginbotham (1720-1780). My records show 6 children: Samuel, Frances, Mary Ann, Aaron, Tamasin and Margaret. I hope this is helpful.

I have been following your conversations and I believe that you should state your concerns to the Training Center any way you can and tell them that the story of the Colony should be told in memory of those who suffered, offer , memorialsome kind of museum or something telling this story accurately. Think about it..if enough people stated their concerns it could happen. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 1:01 AM Subject: VAAMHERS Digest, Vol 1, Issue 25 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. RE-THERE HAS BEEN QUESTION OF HOW THIS COULD HAVE HAD ANY > <BELOW> ([email protected]) > 2. RE-CUZ PAT & JACK & OTHER COUSINS WOULD RATHER FORGET > ([email protected]) > 3. RE-THIS IS NOT AL THAT IS AVAILABLE BUT IT GIVES REASON TO BE > CONCERNED ([email protected]) > 4. Re: Research Trip (Lynden Harris) > 5. Re: Virginia State Epileptic Colony ([email protected]) > 6. Re: RE- IF WE FIND ONE OF THESE SKELITONS ([email protected]) > 7. Re: Staying on topic ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:05:08 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: [VAAMHERS] RE-THERE HAS BEEN QUESTION OF HOW THIS COULD HAVE > HAD ANY <BELOW> > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > The Virginia eugenic sterilization law was challenged in the Supreme Court > on > the grounds that it violated the principle of equal protection since it > applied only to institutionalized persons. Oliver Wendell Holmes spoke > directly to > this concern in Buck v. Bell. Holmes pointed out that the Virginia > compulsory > sterilization law sought to sterilize all persons with hereditary defects, > not > just those institutionalized. It did not violate the equal protection > clause > because "the law does all that is needed when it does all that it can." > The > law, he said, clearly sought to bring all "similarly situated so far and > so fast > as its means allow" under its jurisdiction.(15) > > The Commonwealth of Virginia aimed to sterilize only those who could "be > safely discharged or paroled and become self-supporting with benefit to > themselves > and to society." Carrie Buck was institutionalized only after she became > pregnant. She was released immediately after she was sterilized. Her > sister, Doris > Buck, was brought to the state colony specifically to be sterilized and > was > released immediately after her sterilization. It was clear that the > provision > in the law to sterilize institutionalized persons was not meant to > restrict the > population, of those to be sterilized.(16) > > American Support for Eugenics > > > Does this have any Effect on our Genealogy, WELL COUSINS > > I know for a fact there are 26 Descendants from a man that missed > Sterilization, By a Bit Of Concern By the Family Dr. > There are 26 Descendants from that Man; There were 3 Mother's 9 Children, > 10 Grand Children, 1 Father, 2 Sons, & 2 Grand Son's > > THIS Happened in 1940 & UP until now. This Has A Great deal to do with > the > Genealogy of This Family & will for years to come. > > NOW please; JUST who of My many Cousins, is it that knows that there has > never been, no such thing to happen in any of the rest of our PAST > Families? > > This is up to now 26 Relitives______ That would have never > existed________IF THAT unnecessary Sterilization had Taken place, > SO you see Cousins, When the Blank can be filled in, the unknown Past > <DOES > LOOK SO MUCH DIFFERENT> Hey I am > not shouting, Life just looks so much different without wonder??? Please > Comment. A T <[email protected]> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:22:08 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: [VAAMHERS] RE-CUZ PAT & JACK & OTHER COUSINS WOULD RATHER > FORGET > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > Thanks for the information. I do think it is a shame that the whole story > of > the colony is not known to most people. When I saw the film I was almost > ashamed to admit I was from Lynchburg. I know people who still work there, > and > frankly, I don't think the treatment and concern for the clients there has > changed > much over the years. <NAME IS AVAILABLE> > > You see Cousins, You forgot to <ASK & ANSWER QUESTIONS SOMEONE KNOWS> I > surely hope that your Family missed this Terrible BIT of Reality, nut > every > family was not so fortunate. OH but it did affect many families. > > THE ostrich mind set just does not apply. > > THE simple Minded BLOG bit is the same sweep under the RUG Idea that Our > Churches & Officialdom have had for, too many years. <NO> Well why has > there > been no condemnation of this inhuman, Official Policy, Yes I know Someone > took it > to Court, but the things that are best taken to the grave, well, this is > not > one of those thing's. > > NOW just how can one say that this sordid bit of our past has not had any > effect on any ones genealogy. > > A T Powell <[email protected]> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:40:14 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: [VAAMHERS] RE-THIS IS NOT AL THAT IS AVAILABLE BUT IT GIVES > REASON TO BE CONCERNED > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > This film charts the history of the American eugenics program under >> which 80,000 inmates in state institutions have been compulsorily >> sterilized. In Virginia between 1905 and 1972, several thousand children >> deemed by the state as unfit to reproduce were taken from their families >> and forced to live in the Lynchburg Colony. Victims recall their >> experiences of beatings, solitary confinement and other abuses. >> >>? >> >> The film was made in 1993 and can be checked out from the Virginia Tech >> library in Blacksburg, VA or probably requested through Interlibrary >> Loan from a number of other schools.? Thanks, > > AND, This is of no concern??? Seem that it should concern many people. > JUST think, 80,000 X 26 = 2,80,000 The 26 is the Descendants from the Man > that I > previously Mentioned. > I do believe that this should be of Genealogical Concern. > > CUZ A T Powell, <[email protected]> >> > > COUSIN A T <[email protected]> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 06:18:45 -0400 > From: "Lynden Harris" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [VAAMHERS] Research Trip > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Marlene; > > Have you attempted to start with Mathew Ricketts and come downward looking > for your John Henry? Mathew was a soldier in the revolutionary war from > Amherst County and in 1810 had 4 boys in that census. John Ellis and > John > W both served during the civil war from Va. BH Staunton Va (Ricketts are > not a subject of my research - just remember the name). > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 10:12 PM > Subject: [VAAMHERS] Research Trip > > >> Thanks to all of you for your suggestions for my recent trip to Amherst. >> The Historical Museum was terrific and the people so nice. The library >> in >> Lynchburg was very helpful, also. I am afraid I did not find my >> ancestor, John >> Henry Ricketts, but I will keep plugging away! Thanks so much for all >> the >> tips - it is a lovely area of VA., especially this time of year. >> Happy Hunting, >> Marlene Avery >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: 20 Oct 2006 06:35:14 -0600 > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [VAAMHERS] Virginia State Epileptic Colony > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BAC.2ACE/1420.2.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Thank you so much for your reply, this should help. > Shirley > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:12:09 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [VAAMHERS] RE- IF WE FIND ONE OF THESE SKELITONS > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Cc: [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > do a GOOGLE search with this criteria: 'Lynchburg Hitler Racial > cleansing' > Lots to read from many sources. > > > > In a message dated 10/19/2006 6:30:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > I read the site about Virginia Training School. But in none of the > things said about it, was it mentioned that the early days of Virginia > Trainig School's sterilization program was the pattern by which Adolph > Hitler copied for his making of the "Master Race". There was a film > made about this and shown on TV a number of years ago. I was born and > grew up in Lynchburg, and was very surprised to hear that Hitler was > invited to visit, did so, and adopted the plan for his own use. Does > anyone know all the facts and truth about this situation who could > enlighten us about what occurred? Tina > > THIS Black shadow is real. IT will touch some family genealogy. AS it has > been swept under the RUG for oh so many YEARS. I just hope IF it ever > shows > up > in any way Connected, Being as it ended in 1972 Hopefully it can be dealt > with, not as a Dancing Skeleton, But be Fazed in to our Research, with > some > kind > of <acceptable> understanding, COUSINS it was real & most revolting when > Thoroughly understood for just what it was. The Mental Problem was the > Manner that > was used in a Mindless Approach to the Solution of a problem that did not > exist. > > Hitler decided that the Gas Chamber was Faster. > > COUSIN'S, you may not equate this with Genealogy BUT it is a fact of life > That came closer to more Americans than > Most of us realize. Because Va, was not the ONLY State to practice this > disregard for the human being. > > If one has a problem believing this, Please E-MAIL Me I will give you a > Posting of the Name of the States that Practiced > RACE cleansing. CUZ A T <[email protected]> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:35:36 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [VAAMHERS] Staying on topic > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > TO ANY one that wishes to reply to my POSTING please Reply > of list to <[email protected]> Thanks A t > > One question To Ancestry? It is stated that this list is for Local > history > of Amherst County Va. SIR, I was born in Amherst County in 1926 and all of > the > years that I have Studied the Geography of the County, Madison Heights > never > seemed to be any less local than the forks of Buffalo, Pedlar Mills or > Monroe. > > JUST ASKING?? How does discussing The Elon Epileptic Colony > Not constitute Local History of Amherst County, & the Fact of so many > people > having been Sterilized, JUST how could this NOT have some genealogical > effect > on someone in Amherst County. > > JUST ASKING- BUT I can not help but wonder, ,abt the Broom & the rug> > > > A T Powell Richmond, Va <[email protected]> > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the VAAMHERS list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the VAAMHERS mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of VAAMHERS Digest, Vol 1, Issue 25 > *************************************** >

TO ANY one that wishes to reply to my POSTING please Reply of list to <[email protected]> Thanks A t One question To Ancestry? It is stated that this list is for Local history of Amherst County Va. SIR, I was born in Amherst County in 1926 and all of the years that I have Studied the Geography of the County, Madison Heights never seemed to be any less local than the forks of Buffalo, Pedlar Mills or Monroe. JUST ASKING?? How does discussing The Elon Epileptic Colony Not constitute Local History of Amherst County, & the Fact of so many people having been Sterilized, JUST how could this NOT have some genealogical effect on someone in Amherst County. JUST ASKING- BUT I can not help but wonder, ,abt the Broom & the rug> A T Powell Richmond, Va <[email protected]>

do a GOOGLE search with this criteria: 'Lynchburg Hitler Racial cleansing' Lots to read from many sources. In a message dated 10/19/2006 6:30:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I read the site about Virginia Training School. But in none of the things said about it, was it mentioned that the early days of Virginia Trainig School's sterilization program was the pattern by which Adolph Hitler copied for his making of the "Master Race". There was a film made about this and shown on TV a number of years ago. I was born and grew up in Lynchburg, and was very surprised to hear that Hitler was invited to visit, did so, and adopted the plan for his own use. Does anyone know all the facts and truth about this situation who could enlighten us about what occurred? Tina THIS Black shadow is real. IT will touch some family genealogy. AS it has been swept under the RUG for oh so many YEARS. I just hope IF it ever shows up in any way Connected, Being as it ended in 1972 Hopefully it can be dealt with, not as a Dancing Skeleton, But be Fazed in to our Research, with some kind of <acceptable> understanding, COUSINS it was real & most revolting when Thoroughly understood for just what it was. The Mental Problem was the Manner that was used in a Mindless Approach to the Solution of a problem that did not exist. Hitler decided that the Gas Chamber was Faster. COUSIN'S, you may not equate this with Genealogy BUT it is a fact of life That came closer to more Americans than Most of us realize. Because Va, was not the ONLY State to practice this disregard for the human being. If one has a problem believing this, Please E-MAIL Me I will give you a Posting of the Name of the States that Practiced RACE cleansing. CUZ A T <[email protected]> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BAC.2ACE/1420.2.1 Message Board Post: Thank you so much for your reply, this should help. Shirley

Marlene; Have you attempted to start with Mathew Ricketts and come downward looking for your John Henry? Mathew was a soldier in the revolutionary war from Amherst County and in 1810 had 4 boys in that census. John Ellis and John W both served during the civil war from Va. BH Staunton Va (Ricketts are not a subject of my research - just remember the name). ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 10:12 PM Subject: [VAAMHERS] Research Trip > Thanks to all of you for your suggestions for my recent trip to Amherst. > The Historical Museum was terrific and the people so nice. The library > in > Lynchburg was very helpful, also. I am afraid I did not find my > ancestor, John > Henry Ricketts, but I will keep plugging away! Thanks so much for all > the > tips - it is a lovely area of VA., especially this time of year. > Happy Hunting, > Marlene Avery > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >