Jim, I have ordered some of the FTM census CD's but always check the familytreemaker.com site and select "order the CD" which, under "what you find in this CD", has a button for listing the counties of a state which are included in the state census. Many do not include all counties for some reason. However I did look at your CD #453, which is a six CD set and found that it says these states 1850 census is included in their entirety. I copied the below from the FTM site. If all is not included then you are indeed correct. Though I am happy with the CD's I ordered, I am glad you have made us all aware of problems with the CD #453. With the lawyers they employ I doubt they are lying on purpose but may be unaware that some records are missing. Also sounds like the customer help department is guessing at the problem and to me that is completely unsat. I am sending this to the list but many probably do not use these CD's and so may not be interested. Please let me know privately if you get any more info from the company on this or post to the list if no one really objects. Knowing if there is an incomplete CD out there does assist me. By the way, you can send any CD back in the first ninty days if you are unhappy or don't find anything useful on the CD and I can only assume that customer service can handle that reliably. You did ask for thoughts and these are mine for the moment. Take care. Glenn E. Harris THE BELOW FROM THE FAMILYTREEMAKER.COM SITE: Census Microfilm Records: Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, and Mississippi, 1850 Family Archive CD 453 Family Archive CD 453 This Family Archive, a 6-CD set, indexes approximately 337,000 heads of household listed in the 1850 federal census from four southern states. It includes 123,322 individuals from Alabama, 40,238 individuals from Arkansas, 96,813 individuals from Louisiana, and 76,709 individuals from Mississippi. This Family Archive is especially valuable because it includes not only an index to these four states' portions of the 1850 census in their entirety but also images of the actual census pages -- in the census taker's own handwriting. ......................................................... On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:56:30 -0500 "Jim Ward" <[email protected]> writes: > To all: > > Is anyone aware of any data missing from the original 1850 US > Census, and if > not, why would FTM sell an incomplete CD without some form of > explanation? > > Anyone planning to buy, or having just bought the newly-released > Family Tree > Maker Family Archive CD 453, which is the 1850 Census Microfilm > Records for > Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, and Mississippi, should consider the > following > information. > > According to their online literature, this Family Archive, a 6-CD > set, > indexes approximately 337,000 heads of household listed in the 1850 > federal > census from four southern states. It includes 123,322 individuals > from > Alabama, 40,238 individuals from Arkansas, 96,813 individuals from > Louisiana, and 76,709 individuals from Mississippi. > > What FTM DOES NOT tell you in their literature is that CD 453 IS NOT > COMPLETE. > > CD 453 does not contain the full 1850 census for the states noted > above. > Suspecting that the numbers quoted above are indeed low, I called > Family > Tree Maker twice in the last four days and was told by one person > that the > CD is 80% complete, and told by another person that some counties > were not > included. Neither of these customer representatives could tell me > what > counties were missing, nor from what state. > > Any thoughts? > > Jim > > > > > > > > ==== VAALBEMA Mailing List ==== > REMINDER: > Albemarle County "area": Amherst, Augusta, Bedford, Buckingham, > Greene, Fluvanna, Goochland, Louisa, Nelson, Orange, and Rockingham > Counties > > ============================== > Search more than 274 MILLION NAMES and find your ancestors at > Ancestry.com! > Get started today at http://www.ancestry.com/rootswebtext.asp > ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.