Sandra, Just be careful of anything you find on the Ancestral File or the newer Pedigree disks on http;familysearch.com. I sent in my information 12 years ago and a "helpful" Mormon cousin took it upon himself to make corrections. However, since he was not related to this family, either by blood or marriage, had never researched them or even read a will, his information was WRONG and it remains so today. Nothing shows sources and I find too many mistakes to be used as a research tool. Rosemary >From: "Sandra E. T. Duncan" <purplevw1@attbi.com> >Reply-To: "Sandra E. T. Duncan" <purplevw1@attbi.com> >To: VAALBEMA-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [VAALBEMA] Fw: [FO] HFC "online" Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 16:02:35 >-0800 > >Happy holidays everyone > >Really good advice found here, scroll way down >http://www.familysearch.org/ >You can also get PAF (Personal Ancestral File here too as a free >download)( an excellent way to keep your Family Tree files) > >SANDRA TYLER DUNCAN >in Sacramento,CA >admin for > DUNCAN-L@rootsweb.com >/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/* >Duncan resource material follows >---------------------------------------------- >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~dobson [by Mary Ann Dobson] >http://www.duncanroots.com [by Keith Duncan] >/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/* >TYLER-L@rootsweb.com >VANSCOY-L@rootsweb.com >http://www.vanschaickfamily.com/ > [ by Sean Bagby] >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >http://www.progenealogists.com/genealogysleuthb.htm > >All my outgoing mail scanned by Norton so as to be virus free!! > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Lynn Brown" <lingbro@lanset.com> >To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 1:00 PM >Subject: [FO] HFC "online" > > > > Several people have contacted me privately about what I meant by HFC > > "online" and who is HFC, so I thought I would answer it to the list. - > > It was a "Typo" > > > > I meant to say "The FHC" which is Family History Center operated by LDS > > [Church of Latter Day Saints}. Many of the FHC's in the USA are > > undergoing reorganization, and are moving to "electronized" data to make > > more genealogical materials available to their patrons of the FHC. Many > > of the FHC's have installed computers and have subscribed to groups such > > as Ancestry, Genealogy.com, Heritage Quest, etc. Many public libraries > > are moving to provide similar service. To offset costs, a small fee is > > charged to use the computers. I recommend contracting your local FHC > > and/or public library first to find out if these services are being > > offered, the cost, and time limit. > > > > Sorry for the confusion > > > > Lynn > > > > -- > > Visit my genealogy new "Updated" website: http://www.lanset.com/lingbro > > > > Researching surnames BOCHNICEK, BROD, BROZ, DVORAK, GRAHAM, PETRAN, > > PAZDERA, SMRCKA and more > > > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > > PLEASE remove as much of the Original Message as possible when replying >to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message >important >to your reply. > > > > > >==== VAALBEMA Mailing List ==== >Please limit, or even remove, signature files that merely clutter your >messages. These may appear, and take up space, over and over again >in the Rootsweb Archives. > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_virusprotection_3mf

I strongly second Rosemary's advice from personal experience which actually began in the late 1960's and still continues from time to time. With little or no correct documentation compiled pedigrees are in the category of hearsay. Correct documentation for relationships is not just a book title. Use LDS material only as a finding tool. Genealogical research requires study of evidence, then analysis & confirmation. The IGI is also a finding tool because it's merely an Index to "something else". If one sends for copy of the "something else", surprises, good and bad, are always in store! Exceptions, of course, are LDS microfilms of primary records. Happy Holidays, and may we all have a great research year in 2003 !! Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronnie Koch" <ronniekoch@hotmail.com> To: <VAALBEMA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [VAALBEMA] Fw: [FO] HFC "online" > Sandra, > > Just be careful of anything you find on the Ancestral File or the newer > Pedigree disks on http;familysearch.com. I sent in my information 12 years > ago and a "helpful" Mormon cousin took it upon himself to make corrections. > However, since he was not related to this family, either by blood or > marriage, had never researched them or even read a will, his information wasWRONG and it remains so today. > Nothing shows sources and I find too many mistakes to be used as a research > tool. > > Rosemary

Thank you all for the great advice, I myself fell a victim of my own devices...I placed my data at Ancestry.com because I was (mistakenly) under the impression that the filtered out living persons data...The day I saw my living persons in the files of two "NAME COLLECTORS" I quickly pulled my stuff from there,I asked BOB & HUPPE to remove my living persons from their data but neither did & I am not new at this business , researching since 1970, Internet since 1992.So, I am much more careful these days.And one of the lists that I am on has the tagline, " GENEALOGY WITHOUT DOCUMENTATION IS JUST MYTHOLOGY", as much as I use the FHC I am very aware of how it is compiled, but I am also aware that my mother's birth record is in error....Never was corrected....I always do my best to get the facts as close as I can humanly make them, documentation and all SANDRA TYLER DUNCAN Sacramento, CA http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=purplevw1&I11.x=17&I11.y =7 http://www.progenealogists.com/genealogysleuthb.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "wmhunt" <wmhunt@frontiernet.net> To: <VAALBEMA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [VAALBEMA] Fw: [FO] HFC "online" > I strongly second Rosemary's advice from personal experience which actually > began in the late 1960's and still continues from time to time. With little > or no correct documentation compiled pedigrees are in the category of > hearsay. Correct documentation for relationships is not just a book title. > Use LDS material only as a finding tool. Genealogical research requires > study of evidence, then analysis & confirmation. > The IGI is also a finding tool because it's merely an Index to "something > else". If one sends for copy of the "something else", surprises, good and > bad, are always in store! > Exceptions, of course, are LDS microfilms of primary records. > > Happy Holidays, and may we all have a great research year in 2003 !! > > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ronnie Koch" <ronniekoch@hotmail.com> > To: <VAALBEMA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 9:25 PM > Subject: Re: [VAALBEMA] Fw: [FO] HFC "online" > > > Sandra, > > > > Just be careful of anything you find on the Ancestral File or the newer > > Pedigree disks on http;familysearch.com. I sent in my information 12 > years > > ago and a "helpful" Mormon cousin took it upon himself to make > corrections. > > However, since he was not related to this family, either by blood or > > marriage, had never researched them or even read a will, his information > wasWRONG and it remains so today. > > > Nothing shows sources and I find too many mistakes to be used as a > research > > tool. > > > > Rosemary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== VAALBEMA Mailing List ==== > Include local history. Visit the courthouse and the Historical Society > in behalf of others, if you can volunteer. Share. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Need advice: (I prefer submitting only a limited tree, so as to be able to better control the editing of living persons, as there will not be that many names to change to "Living.") At ancestry.com, when you do a search, if someone has submitted an “Outline Tree” for that person you are searchiing, it will show up in the category “Ancestor World Tree entries.” I have submitted one direct ancestry for myself (which does show up at ancestry.com as above). I was able to submit this outline tree thru the availability of this "outline tree" program thru my membership in a myfamily…. site; however, I’ve not yet been able to find the use of an “Outline Tree” WITHOUT COST to submit my other trees that I would like to submit. Is there anyone that might be able to guide me to the spot that I might access the “Outline Tree” in order to submit other trees to them without paying for the privilege. Thanks so very much, Dee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra E. T. Duncan" <purplevw1@attbi.com> To: <VAALBEMA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [VAALBEMA] Fw: [FO] HFC "online" | Thank you all for the great advice, I myself fell a victim of my own | devices...I placed my data at Ancestry.com because I was (mistakenly) under | the impression that the filtered out living persons data...The day I saw my | living persons in the files of two "NAME COLLECTORS" I quickly pulled my | stuff from there,I asked BOB & HUPPE to remove my living persons from their | data but neither did & I am not new at this business , researching since | 1970, Internet since 1992.So, I am much more careful these days.And one of | the lists that I am on has the tagline, " GENEALOGY WITHOUT DOCUMENTATION IS | JUST MYTHOLOGY", as much as I use the FHC I am very aware of how it is | compiled, but I am also aware that my mother's birth record is in | error....Never was corrected....I always do my best to get the facts as | close as I can humanly make them, documentation and all | | SANDRA TYLER DUNCAN Sacramento, CA | http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=purplevw1&I11.x=17&I11.y | =7 | | http://www.progenealogists.com/genealogysleuthb.htm | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "wmhunt" <wmhunt@frontiernet.net> | To: <VAALBEMA-L@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 9:43 AM | Subject: Re: [VAALBEMA] Fw: [FO] HFC "online" | | | > I strongly second Rosemary's advice from personal experience which | actually | > began in the late 1960's and still continues from time to time. With | little | > or no correct documentation compiled pedigrees are in the category of | > hearsay. Correct documentation for relationships is not just a book | title. | > Use LDS material only as a finding tool. Genealogical research requires | > study of evidence, then analysis & confirmation. | > The IGI is also a finding tool because it's merely an Index to "something | > else". If one sends for copy of the "something else", surprises, good and | > bad, are always in store! | > Exceptions, of course, are LDS microfilms of primary records. | > | > Happy Holidays, and may we all have a great research year in 2003 !! | > | > Bill | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "Ronnie Koch" <ronniekoch@hotmail.com> | > To: <VAALBEMA-L@rootsweb.com> | > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 9:25 PM | > Subject: Re: [VAALBEMA] Fw: [FO] HFC "online" | > | > > Sandra, | > > | > > Just be careful of anything you find on the Ancestral File or the newer | > > Pedigree disks on http;familysearch.com. I sent in my information 12 | > years | > > ago and a "helpful" Mormon cousin took it upon himself to make | > corrections. | > > However, since he was not related to this family, either by blood or | > > marriage, had never researched them or even read a will, his information | > wasWRONG and it remains so today. | > > | > Nothing shows sources and I find too many mistakes to be used as a | > research | > > tool. | > > | > > Rosemary | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > ==== VAALBEMA Mailing List ==== | > Include local history. Visit the courthouse and the Historical Society | > in behalf of others, if you can volunteer. Share. | > | > | > ============================== | > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, | go to: | > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 | > | | | | ==== VAALBEMA Mailing List ==== | If you wish to reply to the list, you must use REPLY ALL. Otherwise, | your reply goes ***only*** to the original poster. This is a change. | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |