--part1_40.b9e11a8.28343829_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Everyone, It is difficult to say how much I really enjoyed all of the wonderful stories about travelling and courting and exaggerating -- 400 lb cows,etc. I have TWO questions and will do separate queries. The first stems from a dinner table conversation with my 2 teens and a tween (ie, 12), and (picture eyes rolling and it IS mothers days commiseration) I read some of the posts (which I have strung together with my Chesapeake time mariner travelling posts). They were my captives: I read the one post that the fellow had stayed courting so long that he had to drive home in the dark fast, and wrecked the new family carriage. My 17 year old son's first smiling question was "did he get a ticket", In the spirit of finally getting him interested I said, Um..I don't think that things were that far along at the time, they mostly just sued each other in court, but since this is a family issue (ie damage of expensive possession), but I imagine he got punished to all get out. And my son (who had not heard the whole story), said...bet he didn't ever get to go that far again. From the post, he was correct. So I now venture into an area I know, regarding whether any legal action would have resulted from the case, nothing about, but I am assuming that the most litigious beings on the earth (ie , colonial Virginians), simply brought otherwise unsettled "traffic" matters to trial, which wouldn't have probably happened in this case because it was family...What I also told my kids was I didn't think there was any real "local rulemaking" about these things, etc....but I could be wrong.....again. FYI, for all of you out there with "descendants" in the early stages of driving or wannabees (teens or tweens --10-12), this actually resulted in a really good conversation, because..um...I mentioned courting and they said dating...and I got to tell them about two of their ancestor couples who were in their teens (ie, under 18 both, asssuming the "primary documentation" is correct)...afterwards I banged my head against the wall and thought how stupid I was. But actually, they'd already known about this. I'm not ready to be a grandmother <vbg> So I guess my question, on behalf of my descendants, and this is really a larger question...were there local or state laws passed about the driving issues. My impression is that ALOT of people, both passengers and pedestrians, were killed or injured in carriage accidents on country roads and in towns/cities. My best to you all. Janet (Baugh) Hunter --part1_40.b9e11a8.28343829_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-xd01.mx.aol.com (rly-xd01.mail.aol.com [172.20.105.166]) by air-xd02.mail.aol.com (v77_r1.36) with ESMTP; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 07:07:51 2000 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by rly-xd01.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.36) with ESMTP; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 07:07:22 2000 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f3MB75B28757; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 04:07:05 -0700 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 04:07:05 -0700 X-Original-Sender: images@ix.netcom.com Sun Apr 22 04:07:00 2001 Message-ID: <003001c0cb35$48f07fc0$2e7abfa8@images> From: "Matz" <images@ix.netcom.com> Old-To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 07:05:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Phillips.Mason Resent-Message-ID: <QntE0.A.xAH.Xtr46@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/11919 X-Loop: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L-request@rootsweb.com Dear List Members: Does anyon

Janet: Considering that my father, born 1911, now passed, never took a drivers' test, I assume the answer to your question about being tested and licensed in the old days is a big fat NO. More interesting, courting habits of yesterday. At Duke University in the Perkins Library are the "Richard Barnes Papers". This, dear friends, is an 18th century soap opera. While I have the copies, I am afraid to post or publish them for fear of copywright infringements. Richard Barnes lived in Richmond County, VA. Yes, these Virginians loved to sue each other. The papers are full of horse races, fixed bets, scandalous love affairs, duels, charges of slander and libel, elopements, entrapments, fist fights, nasty father-son episodes, nasty mother-daughter episodes, nasty father-daughter episodes, serious name-calling, etc. Truly great reading. My favorite line is that father intercepted a plot by his daughter to run off with a man he did not approve of, locked her in the cellar and "set her to churning butter." I guess this gave her something to think on, as in her ESCAPE. She was rescued by her brother and rowed across the Chesapeake Bay, and upon reaching the other side was wed at the home of her uncle (father's brother, Abraham Barnes, of St. Mary's county, MD), and got married to her young soldier anyway. These rebellious siblings were quickly disinherited, at least for a while. It is truly great material. It should be published. Is this stuff copywrighted? It should not lanquish at Perkins library unread. Regards, Craig Kilby