In a message dated 5/18/01 4:14:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BilleeS@aol.com writes: << With all this talk of buggies, is there a site where I might see what 2 wheel and 4 wheel carriages looked like in the mid 19th century? They are listed to my ancestors in the tax records (Nansemond County) >> About two years ago when I found an ancestor Samuel Bentley was one of only a handful of people in Amelia Co ca 1750 who had "wheels" (taxable that is) and I did some looking around on the internet to see what they were. Here are some sites, with pictures, explanations, books for sale, etc. If you do a search for carriages phaetons you will get over 1200 hits: The Tour of carriages at the Carriage Association of America begins here: http://www.caaonline.com/Tour/tour.htm This is a Carriage museum website, with pictures of two and four wheel buggies/phaetons. If you click on each you will get a description: http://www.airtel.net/hosting/00011/rce.and/english/carruaje/carrua2.html The home page for that site is here: http://www.airtel.net/hosting/00011/rce.and/english/main1.html The Carriage Museum of America Library: http://www.carriagemuseumlibrary.org/booksale.htm This is an English site that has many books also, which given our recent subject matter are of interest, ie pamphlets from the 1800s on handling problem horses, etc.: http://www.jacks-tack.co.uk/list2.html Well, that's enough for starters!! Best Regards, Janet (Baugh) Hunter