In a message dated 5/10/01 8:00:02 PM, gronj@home.com writes: << I do not accept anything past the 5 brothers. As you know, these brothers are proved by Robert's will. There were two Robert JONES, Jr.s with land transactions in Granville Co. in 1748; one of Granville and the other an attorney of Surry Co., VA. There are some transactions of Robert without the Jr., but I suspect these are the same person with the "Jr." omitted. I have not looked at the originals. I am not sure that either is the Robert who d. 1771. The latter bought land in Granville in 1752 and it states he was "of St. Mary's Parish Caroline Co., VA." He was not listed as a Jr., but I suspect these deeds are where that conclusion was drawn from. This 1752 deed is the earliest record in the area that I feel sure is tied to the 5 brothers. If you want this abstract, I will be glad to send it. By the way, Catherine COLLINS, wife of Ambrose JONES, Sr. was also said to be of Caroline Co., VA. (d/o James) First, Robert Jones of Surry County, VA. I found his will and he is NOT related directly to these Jones brothers. He was an attorney and did not name any of these Jones in his will. Most of the land records for Granville Co. are for this Robert Jones (as both Robert Jones and Robert Jones, Jr., it appears, I haven't really sorted it all out--he did not own any land on Aaron's Creek). If I am to believe my notes, his will was proved in Northampton Co., NC in 1766, and states he was of Surry Co., VA, attorney. Why it was proved in Northampton Co NC I don't recall. Perhaps he had moved there. The will is in Raliegh, state archives, Microfilm No. C.071.80001, WB 1, p. 135. Second, Catherine the wife of Ambrose Jones, Sr. is said to be Catherine Collins based on the deed from her children selling slave to a sibling that was bequeathed to them by the will of James Collins of Caroline County. That does not prove he was Caroline's father nor that Catherine came from Caroline County. It simply implies it. Unfortunately the records of Caroline are mostly destroyed. The deed abstract is as follows: "2 April 1782, Granville Co., NC Deed Book 1, p. 327-328. For 100 pounds paid by James Winfrey and the children begotten of his wife, Elizabeth Winfrey (i.e., daughter of Ambrone Jones and wife Catherine), deed all their right in a negro woman named Milly, which is their right by will of James Collins, deceased of Caroline Co.,VA. Signed by Ambrose Jones, James Jones, Stephen Jones, Reuben Jones, Gabriel Jones, Robert Sandford and wife ANN, Benjamin Hawkins and wife PHEBE [NB: Phebe was the wife of Thomas Gregory by 1783], Peggy Jones of Granville AND CASWELL counties, NC. Witnessed by Charles Wade, Joseph Blanks, James Jones, George Moore, William Loftis, John Loftis, Robert Sandford and Benjamin Hawkins." Craig