In a message dated 4/25/01 12:15:22 PM, dhrenaud@midwest.net writes: << If anyone has access to marriages in Spotsylvania Co. or Orange Co. Va., I am looking for a marriage of James Payne and Elizabeth Harris about 1770-80. James is believed to be the son of Thomas Payne who died in Orange Co 1815. Elizabeth the daughter of Thomas Harris who died Orange Co. 1782. Thank you. Dorothy >> Hello Dorothy, I know that this is a far stretch to attempt to tack onto your research of the Payne family, but I hope that you might have some idea of the origin of these Paynes found in early Orange County, NC, now Caswell County, in partnership with my ancestor John Satterfield: >>John Satterfield, himself, received an Earl of Granville grant for 151 acres of land 11 November 1760. On the 12 March of 1761, John deeded 151 acres to William Satterfield, his brother. By 11 November 1766 William Satterfield was deeding 67 acres to James Satterfield, witnessed by John Satterfield. This James was apparently the son of William, as was indicated in the St. James District of Caswell County tax list of 1777 when James was noted as son of Will to distinquish him from his uncle James. The exchanging of this land either by sale or deed of gift makes a significant statement that there existed some special kind of relationship among the Jays and the Satterfields. Established an ordinary at Paynes (Paines) Tavern in 1775 with John Payne and Robert Payne.<< I have always wondered if there were some other kind of relationship, other than business, which the Paynes and Satterfields had. They often witnessed documents for each other, such as deeds. Thank you for being considerate of my leap of faith. Best regards, John Fox Winston Salem, NC