Greetings A nice person, a Mr. Wallace has contacted me and given me info on how everyone may access on-line the very same information I have been struggling to post. Note: these instructions should work for any state, just use the correct state name. Here are the instructions and other good info he gave to me, with some additions from me. ======================================= This is how to access the LDS catalog online. By the way, if you are near an LDS family history center, you can buy for a great sum of $5.00 plus tax a CD-ROM of the LDS FHLC (fam hist lib catalog) which is somewhat more sophisticated than the online version. It has LOTS of material. Another CD-ROM of interest is one called The Source (another $5.00) which is ALL the US plus some foreign ones of the Research Outlines compiled by the LDS genealogists for searching various states. They are great outlines. Some of them are online also on the FHLC website. The URL for the website is: www.familysearch.org After you get on the webpage, look on the lower right. There is a link to the catalog. (it says "search the Family History Library Catalog for records and resources)." Click on that link. (Come back later and explore other links if you are so inclined.) The catalog search page will give you several choices: Place search, Surname search, etc. For Virginia - click on Place Type in Virginia, (leave second one blank), then click on "search." Find "Virginia" in the list of 14 topics and click on it. The first group of 20 topics of a total of 236 is displayed. Check out what's available in this first group, then keep clicking on "view next set of matching topics " until you come to the last group of topics. In this last group you will find "Virginia-Vital Records" (which includes whatever LDS has on births, marriages, deaths). Click on "Virginia-Vital Records." Click on "Birth Records 1853-1941; indexes 1853-1950." Click on "view film notes" You will see the first 20 of 101 "film notes." To see the next 20 of the 101, click on "next film notes" at bottom of screen. And on, and on, and on. Having trouble remembering my name now, need sleep. Larry