Thank you very much, E.W. for the tips. I have done all the census work I can at this time (as you will see by the dates below), and am at a stuck place for deeds (also see below). Isaac Green b. ? in ? will written in 1769 in St. Mark's Parish, of then Craven Co, SC. The witnesses to his will (Bartlett Henson and Andrew Hilton) were from Hanover/Louis Co, VA. I don't know excatly where Isaac Green came to SC from and am grasping at straws. Isaac's wife is unknown at this time but may have been an Elizabeth ? Their children were: Robert, George, John, Moses, Priscilla b. about 1740 in ? (married my Reuben Ross about 1759/1760 in ?), Sarah Ann (married Eli Norman), and Alsey (surname Lansdale per her father's will). Robert and George were named executors but only Robert appeared in probate court in May 1772 in St. Mark's Parish, SC Rueben Ross b. before 1740 in ? married Priscilla Green about 1759/1760 in ? Reuben apparently died before 1788 probably in SC, when Priscilla Ross was found in the 1788 tax list of Clarendon Co, SC with one poll. Priscilla died in 1796 probably in SC. I have no will for Reuben or Priscilla but do have Bible records for the births of their children and many of their grandchildren. I found some deed records and a will in Edgecombe/Halifax Co, NC in 1760 and 1761 that have Reuben Ross as a witness but I have no proof that he is my Reuben for, for sure. I believe that it is him because the people he witnessed for seem to appear in SC about the same time Reuben does, (or had children who did.) Reuben and Priscilla's children: Moses b. 9-26-1762, Elizabeth b. 3-16-1764, Benjamin b. 4-10-1766, Solomon b. 5-25-1769, Hannah b. 6-8-1771, Priscilla b. 6-16-1774 and Stephen b. 7-24-1776. Benjamin is my line- in the 1880 census of Burke Co, NC, Benjamin's daughter said he was born in SC- I have no proof otherwise but no record to show that Reuben was in SC in 1766 as the earliest land record I can find that even mentions him is 1771 in SC. Benjamin married Saphira Frizzell in 1794 in Lincoln Co, NC, his son, Reuben Moses Ross was born there in 1797. By 1800, the family lived in Burke Co, NC where their daughter Elizabeth was born @1802. Benjamin died in Burke Co, NC 1843. Saphira died after 1840 in same. If needed, I have quite a bit more info on the children of Isaac Green and Reuben Ross. Thanks again for any help you may be able to offer. Audrey Orlando, FL In a message dated 11/10/2003 2:27:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, Hdanw writes: You wrote: From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] SOME ANCIENT LANDOWNERS IN ST. MARTIN'S PARISH HANOVER COUNTY, > VIRGINIA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" In a message dated 11/09/2003 1:01:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] SOME ANCIENT LANDOWNERS IN ST. MARTIN'S PARISH HANOVER COUNTY, > VIRGINIA by Norine Campbell Gregory Hi, I am desperately trying to find a Reuben Ross, Moses Ross and an Isaac Green in VA. Would really appreciate a look up if possible. Thanks, Audrey Orlando, FL Dear Audrey: The book I have is a hodge-podge of notes, kind of like you and I keep--only mine is all over the floor, instead of in nice notebooks. If you are looking for solid evidence for the persons you name, post your query again. You have given surnames, but you have no dates and no place. These three elements are necessary for a successful [we hope] query: Name, Date, Place. I am assuming you mean Hanover Co., but unless I (and certainly others) have some other info, you may be spinning your wheels. Hanover Co. was divided several times, and your people may be in an adjoining county. If you suspect your people were in Colonial Virginia, I have found one of the more solid pieces of evidence, especially for a burned county like Hanover Co., are the land patents. These land patents are listed on the Library of Virginia website (or at least were a few months ago--so many budgetary cutbacks, who knows whether they are still there or not). Tip: If indeed your people were in colonial Hanover Co., lots of the early deeds of Louisa Co., VA, which county was formed ca 1742 from Hanover Co., mention persons who reside or own land in Hanover Co. But, first, let's determine where your folks were when you first knew of them. Generally, we who volunteer at LDS centers and try to help persons with their genealogy, recommend this: Start with what you KNOW (have documentation for) and then move backwards SLOWLY in time, all the time accumulating evidence (documentation). One person who searches for others in a professional capacity asks persons who come in: Have you done your census work? The 1930 census is available on line, generally for a fee, but some LDS centers have a subscription to Ancestry.com which has the 1930 census. Start with that census and accumulate all you can from censuses (get printouts), and look at every column, and check out the nieghbors--that may be Aunt Minnie and her kids!!! E.W.Wallace