VA-SOUTHSIDE-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > VA-SOUTHSIDE-D Digest Volume 01 : Issue 294 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] CONTRIBUTION ["Paul Drake" <martee@citlink.net>] > #2 [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Re: Surry Loose P ["Paul Drake" <martee@citlink.net>] > #3 Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Surry Loose P ["G. Lee Hearl" <glh@naxs.com>] > #4 Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Re: Surry Loo ["Sarah Keesee" <lydiap@salisbury.n] > #5 [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Repeat messages ["Teresa" <tshands@lv.rmci.net>] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from VA-SOUTHSIDE-D, send a message to > VA-SOUTHSIDE-D-request@rootsweb.com > that contains in the body of the message the command > unsubscribe > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] CONTRIBUTION > Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:48:05 -0500 > From: "Paul Drake" <martee@citlink.net> > To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com > > Thanks, Connie. I have noted your name/address, as I presume > someone in VA has also done. I will pass along whatever I come to > know ASAP. As should all, please understand that the Society (of > which I know precious little from this distance) must decide a) if > it will gain the permission of the county and 2) if it wishes to > move on the project. If it does, it needs but call a meeting (and a > committee, Lord forbid :) and determine the FIRST steps to be taken > or tell us it will NOT do so. If not, we all can go home. If it > does, it needs to commence the task. I say again that all who have > abstracted records, seen to the filming of such, written and > published the results perfectly understand that the processes of > gathering the materials and making preliminary decisions as to WHAT > to publish (print or net) and WHO it is that will be the boss and > who will do this and that work are NOT rocket science. We now > simply need to hold our advice, offer money for that express > purpose - as we have - and await a call by those powers-that-be. > Paul > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Re: Surry Loose Papers > Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 21:12:26 -0500 > From: "Paul Drake" <martee@citlink.net> > To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi, Sarah. Please do not think that I am disdainful of your view, > for I surely am not. I feel that this is not a complicated project, > however I have examined thousands of papers from courts and full > well realize that the many names buried in that tedious writing are > revealed only through experience. > > That writing in those thousands of documents is NOT readable by most > of us without great labor, and without an index to those names, the > work is next to useless. It would take a lifetime for the casual > researcher to even begin to search those records, and then all who > followed that researcher would travel the same road over and over > and over, to no benefit whatever for us all. > > While SOME volunteers are able - AND HAVE THE TIME - to decipher > 18th century writing, most are simply not able or have the days to > do so. If we can gain the assistance of such as Steve, Bunny and > Weynette Haun, we will be years ahead in accomplishing the task. Who > derives what funds, if any, and when are simply not what we should > be worried about now. Paul > > --- Original Message ----- > From: "Sarah Keesee" <lydiap@salisbury.net> > To: <VASURRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:59 PM > Subject: Surry Loose Papers > > > Paul, this has gone in all directions from my request that > access be > > allowed to the Surry loose papers until I'm not sure it is > related. All I > > asked is that the papers be made available to someone such as > Bunny & Steve > > if they will photo & put on internet free of charge. For that I > was & will > > still be glad to contribute (modest amount) to them directly for > their > > expenses and for the time they put in. > > This has now snowballed into a full blown suggested project of > > organizing, > > publishing with every conceivable complicated method & process-- > a > > for-profit deal that the public is then expected to buy-- the > product they > > financed to get done. > > Any minute I'm expecting the organization to be incorporated with > shares > > offered. The Peter Principle is becoming a possiblity. > > > > Simple: one sheet at a time as taken from the box, no indexing, > no > > organization; I will be able to organize according to my needs. > That done, > > the photos can then be sorted, organized, indexed & put into any > type > > publication one wants for sale. > > > > So.....my offer is still good as described above. Otherwise, I > will have > > to see the final plans (if they ever come about) before I commit > to > > subsidizing the proposed project.. I'll just wait until some > enterprising > > soul is able to publish & then purchase a copy of their work... > of which I > > have no problem at all. Love the printed page! > > Best, > > Sarah > > > > > > > > ==== VASURRY Mailing List ==== > > Don't forget to check out the Surry County, Virginia, Historical > Society > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vaschsm/Index.html > > List Mistress is Eve Gregory egregory20@earthlink.net > > > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Surry Loose Papers > Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:50:21 -0700 > From: "G. Lee Hearl" <glh@naxs.com> > To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com > > >>Paul, this has gone in all directions from my request that access be > allowed to the Surry loose papers until I'm not sure it is related. All I > asked is that the papers be made available to someone such as Bunny & > Steve<< > Note: These "loose papers" are public records which probably will have to be > photographed in the presence of the County Court personell and not removed > from the courthouse.. After the copies are made the originals should be > filed properly in the Clerks Office.. The local Historical Society could > index the names contained and make copies available to the public. The index > and page numbers could be put on line so interested researchers could order > copies of pages of interest or have a local researcher transcribe the > information.. > Just a suggestion.. > G. Lee Hearl > Authentic Appalachian Storyteller > Abingdon, Va. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Re: Surry Loose Papers > Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:22:12 -0700 > From: "Sarah Keesee" <lydiap@salisbury.net> > To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com > > Paul, > This is the third copy of your message. I understood the first very well > and I'm glad you aren't disdainful of my view so I'll carry on: In my > little experience (miniscule compared to yours I'm sure) in organizing work > I've found that the simpler the better; the fewer the committees, the fewer > meetings the faster a project can be finished. Too many cooks and all that. > > I've also seen early writing and agree it is miserable--sometimes > impossible--at times to read. Since there is no order to them now, those > that are illegible could be set aside (with no damage done) until the last > with the note "illegible" or let the recipient of the photo copy decide. > In my own amateurish way, I have also indexed books & appreciate the time & > work it takes. So if this project is to include committees, meetings, > organizing, transcribing, indexing, THEN photo-ing and publishing, we will > be able to look forward to the finished product, with a little luck, June > 2020. Again the recipient can download the photos & index his own. He/she > is not going to be interested in every name in those boxes. Please give the > average researcher a little credit in being able to use records on his own. > All he needs is to SEE them. > This is my last on the subject. Please remove my name from the list of > contributors in fairness to the Historical Society so they won't be making > decisions depending on my donation. > As always, > My best > Sarah > > ---- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Drake" <martee@citlink.net> > To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 7:12 PM > Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Re: Surry Loose Papers > > > Hi, Sarah. Please do not think that I am disdainful of your view, > > for I surely am not. I feel that this is not a complicated project, > > however I have examined thousands of papers from courts and full > > well realize that the many names buried in that tedious writing are > > revealed only through experience. > > > > That writing in those thousands of documents is NOT readable by most > > of us without great labor, and without an index to those names, the > > work is next to useless. It would take a lifetime for the casual > > researcher to even begin to search those records, and then all who > > followed that researcher would travel the same road over and over > > and over, to no benefit whatever for us all. > > > > While SOME volunteers are able - AND HAVE THE TIME - to decipher > > 18th century writing, most are simply not able or have the days to > > do so. If we can gain the assistance of such as Steve, Bunny and > > Weynette Haun, we will be years ahead in accomplishing the task. Who > > derives what funds, if any, and when are simply not what we should > > be worried about now. Paul > > > > --- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sarah Keesee" <lydiap@salisbury.net> > > To: <VASURRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:59 PM > > Subject: Surry Loose Papers > > > > > > > Paul, this has gone in all directions from my request that > > access be > > > allowed to the Surry loose papers until I'm not sure it is > > related. All I > > > asked is that the papers be made available to someone such as > > Bunny & Steve > > > if they will photo & put on internet free of charge. For that I > > was & will > > > still be glad to contribute (modest amount) to them directly for > > their > > > expenses and for the time they put in. > > > This has now snowballed into a full blown suggested project of > > > organizing, > > > publishing with every conceivable complicated method & process-- > > a > > > for-profit deal that the public is then expected to buy-- the > > product they > > > financed to get done. > > > Any minute I'm expecting the organization to be incorporated with > > shares > > > offered. The Peter Principle is becoming a possiblity. > > > > > > Simple: one sheet at a time as taken from the box, no indexing, > > no > > > organization; I will be able to organize according to my needs. > > That done, > > > the photos can then be sorted, organized, indexed & put into any > > type > > > publication one wants for sale. > > > > > > So.....my offer is still good as described above. Otherwise, I > > will have > > > to see the final plans (if they ever come about) before I commit > > to > > > subsidizing the proposed project.. I'll just wait until some > > enterprising > > > soul is able to publish & then purchase a copy of their work... > > of which I > > > have no problem at all. Love the printed page! > > > Best, > > > Sarah > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== VASURRY Mailing List ==== > > > Don't forget to check out the Surry County, Virginia, Historical > > Society > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vaschsm/Index.html > > > List Mistress is Eve Gregory egregory20@earthlink.net > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > > > > > > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > > USGW Archives Pension Project > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pensions/ > > > > > > ============================== > > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > > > > > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Repeat messages > Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:45:44 -0700 > From: "Teresa" <tshands@lv.rmci.net> > To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi, all, > I'm not sure why, but I am getting at least two copies of every letter > that goes to VA-Southside list today. Is anyone else having this > problem ? > > Teresa Wouldn't it be a good idea to get in touch with the Library of Virginia to see if/when they plan to microfilm these loose papers? The may be agreeable to accepting donations to finance this project. Jean.