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    1. General Wade Hampton - Wade connection in Halifax
    2. My GGGG-grandfather Andrew Wade, Sr. 1696 was a brother to Margaret Wade 1694 married John Hampton, Jr. Their Parents: James Wade. b. 1665 New Kent Co VA Grandfather: Edward Wade II b. 1640 York Co VA Great-grand: Edward Wade I b. 1611 Immigrant from London died 1677 York Co VA Andrew Wade Sr., Robert Wade, Sr. 1703, son Hampton Wade, Sr. helped three more gentlemen organize Halifax Co VA in Hampton's living room in 1752. History of Halifax VOL II. Andrew and Robert shared the same grandfather (Edward Wade II b.1640 but different grandmothers) . 2 Margaret Wade b: May 01, 1694 in St Peter's Parish New Kent Co VA d: May 17, 1773 in Prince Wm Co VA 79 yrs old ..... +John Hampton, Jr. b: June 03, 1683 in Hampfield, Gloucester VA d: 1746 in Virginia ..... 3 Anthony Hampton b: February 05, 1714/15 in New Kent Co., VA d: June 30, 1776 in VA ......... +Mary Preston b: 1719 in Virginia d: 1776 in VA ......... 4 Wade General Hampton b: 1752 in General CSA & Gov of S Carolina d: February 10, 1835 in Mississippi ............. 5 Colonel Wade Hampton II b: April 22, 1791 in VA d: Feb. 9, 1858 in MS .................6 General Wade Hampton III b: March 28, 1818 in SC d: April 11, 1902 in SC Regards, Georgia Hornbuckle _GeorgiaMHH@aol.com_ (mailto:GeorgiaMHH@aol.com)

    07/24/2005 10:37:20
    1. Hampden Sidney College
    2. 7billd
    3. Dear Lists, Hampden Sidney College is alive and well in Farmville, Virginia. It was formerly opened as "Prince Edward Academy" by the Presbytery of Hanover in January, 1776. The Academy was organized into a college and chartered in 1783. Next to William and Mary in Williamsburg, it is the oldest College in the South. I do not live in the Commonwealth, but if I did, I would be happy to help you. All of my father's ancestors were from that area. Farmville, (in Prince Edward Co.) and nearby Appomattox and Buckingham Counties are very beautiful and pleasant areas nestled in the middle of Virginia. Sandra

    07/24/2005 08:58:51
    1. Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Writing a family history..
    2. cristy
    3. I think I will start with my Newfoundland roots and write. Alot of it will just be dates though, births and such as their actual life I dont know alot until closer to my own generation. cristy

    07/24/2005 05:22:04
    1. Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Re: VA-SOUTHSIDE-D Digest V05 #120
    2. cristy
    3. I would feel comfortable in doing that also, but I would want to state at the beginning of my writing that the info is with some flaws as far as being factual and that some info is speculation etc.. cristy ----- Original Message ----- From: <EllieSS@aol.com> To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 10:14 AM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Re: VA-SOUTHSIDE-D Digest V05 #120 > > In a message dated 7/15/2005 11:42:18 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > VA-SOUTHSIDE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > Picking one line and writing about it is the way to go. > > > > That is the reason I like the family tree system.. Most family tree > programs give numbers to each person, then write about the person with > that number > as you think of things to tell about them.. you can always add on.. > > Ellie S. > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb Archives Census Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/ > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

    07/24/2005 05:19:13
    1. Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Writing a family history..
    2. Paul Drake
    3. Why not weave in a tad of history of that "where"? ----- Original Message ----- From: cristy To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Writing a family history.. I think I will start with my Newfoundland roots and write. Alot of it will just be dates though, births and such as their actual life I dont know alot until closer to my own generation. cristy ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== Rootsweb Acceptable Use Policy forbids posting copyrighted material which you do not own to Rootsweb Lists. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.4/57 - Release Date: 7/22/2005

    07/24/2005 04:25:20
    1. Re: VA-SOUTHSIDE-D Digest V05 #121
    2. In a message dated 7/15/2005 12:14:28 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, VA-SOUTHSIDE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: The important thing is to write the story. Thank you Charlotte... my thoughts as well! Ellie S.

    07/24/2005 04:16:09
    1. Re: VA-SOUTHSIDE-D Digest V05 #120
    2. In a message dated 7/15/2005 11:42:18 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, VA-SOUTHSIDE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: Picking one line and writing about it is the way to go. That is the reason I like the family tree system.. Most family tree programs give numbers to each person, then write about the person with that number as you think of things to tell about them.. you can always add on.. Ellie S.

    07/24/2005 04:14:40
    1. Writing a family history..
    2. I believe documentation is very important in writing a family history.. however I believe that getting started is of value... .... e.g. I found letters that my grandmother wrote as well as others in my family. Without those letters I wouldn't know what I do about the some members of the family. Why not get that info on paper as soon as possible, then go back and do the fine "tuning." If you don't get it on paper and wait for the perfect format, your knowledge of the kin may be lost.. I always told my students (I'm a teacher).. to get started.. then we will work on the particulars! Just my 2 cents worth! Ellie Swanger

    07/24/2005 04:12:03
    1. Hampden-Sidney College
    2. Alice Sanders
    3. Hello Carolynn and other list members You might try writing to the college, if it is still in existence, or you might try the National Union Catalog of Manuscript Collections at: http://www.loc.gov/coll/nucmc/nucmc.html for copies of your college article. This url is a good one for your favorite list. Good luck. Alice

    07/24/2005 03:45:30
    1. A Clipping from Ancestry.com's Newsletter Ancestry Daily News, 22 July 2005
    2. You explorers in the internet (and libraries, cemeteries, microfilms, microfiche, books, etc.) no doubt will be interested in this information. Please note the subject. I only cut and pasted. (A subscription to this almost-daily newsletter, full of good information about how to expand your genealogical skills, is FREE.) E.W.Wallace This is the article: SATELLITE IMAGES I thought I'd share a process that I use for locating ancestors property with satellite images. If you have a high speed internet connection and a fairly current PC, you can download a great satellite image program called Google Earth. It's about a 9MB download (free) available at: http://desktop.google.com/download/earth/. Among the many visually amazing features of this program is a tool where you can overlay images on top of satellite photos. As soon as I saw this feature, it hit me--"plat maps!" I imported a plat map image on top of a satellite photo of the area where my ancestors lived in 1920, and just like that I was looking at a photographic map of where my ancestors' property would be located today. The program lets you adjust the size, orientation, and best of all, the transparency level of the imported image, so you can make the map match the roads, rivers, etc. of the satellite image and then you simply drag the transparency guide back and forth to toggle between the map and the satellite image to see where property would be located today. Scott Aaron ____________________________________________________________________ Thanks to Scott for today's Quick Tip! If you have a tip you would like to share with researchers, you can send it to: mailto:ADNeditor@ancestry.com Quick Tips may be reprinted, with credit to the submitter, in other Ancestry publications, so if you do not want your tip included in a publication other than the "Ancestry Daily News" and "Ancestry Weekly Digest," please state so clearly in your message.

    07/23/2005 12:44:49
    1. Hampden-Sidney College
    2. I have a photocopy of the title page and one other page of the "Bulletin of Hampden-Sidney College, General Catalogue of Officers and Students 1776-1906," published by the College, as it was reprinted in November 1908 in Vol. III, No. 4 of some unidentified publication, probably a journal or periodical. I tried PERSI for locating the article but it did not come up. Would anyone on this list happen to know what publication that might have been? Hampden-Sidney College is in Hampden-Sidney, Prince Edward County, Virginia. The names on the page I do have a copy of are from the 1850s and include: Ford, Fowler, Gardner, Hatcher, Hughes, Hanson, Johns, Jones, Jordan, Kelso, Knauff (mine), Lacy, McClanahan, McPhail, Marshall, Miller, Morgan, Morris, Morton, Payne, Pollard, Richardson, Seay, Speed, Spencer, Taliaferro, Tinsley, Venable, Walthall, Watson, Whitley, Williamson. For some of them there is additional information, other than the years they attended the College. Carolynn in CA

    07/23/2005 06:38:43
    1. Oops - Forgot to Paste - Books You Might Find Online
    2. I cut and pasted this from a NC rootsweb site. (Joke: It is now community property!) Tell your bookish friends! http://print.google.com/googleprint/about.html E.W.Wallace

    07/21/2005 01:41:44
    1. Oops - Forgot to Paste the URL for Books Online
    2. I cut and pasted this from a NC rootsweb site. (Joke: It is now community property!) Tell your bookish friends! http://print.google.com/googleprint/about.html E.W.Wallace

    07/21/2005 01:40:14
    1. Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Servants, Indentured and otherwise
    2. m.moore1
    3. Paul, this is very interesting, indeed. I have had the opinion of most people, that the information of the following is NOT of the same person (Samuel Bird), primarly because he seems to have had a son born in the 1720 time frame, which marriage would not have been allowed an indentured servant. However, after reading this, I believe that this is the same person. What do you think? Here goes: The Complete Book of Emigrants 1700-1750, by Peter Wilson Coldham 929.3 A173 CoLb "A list of emigrants from surviving records in English Archives". p. 220. Sept. 17, 1718 Samuel Bird of St. Martin's, Worchester, Labourer, aged 19, bound to John Taylor to serve 5 years in VA. (CLRO:ATSM/57) (Corporation of London Record Office) Orange Co. VA Order Book 5 p. 234. March 22, 1749. Richard Lamb, Wm. Monroe, Samuel Bird and William Sims made oath that they were immediately imported into this colony from Great Britian, and Jane Morris and James Collins and Elizabeth Douglas from Ireland, in order for each of them to obtain a right to 50 acres of land in this colony, which rights they severally in open court assign over to Honorias Powell. PAUL, these two entries, of such widely spaced dates, seem to indicate that Samuel Bird's indenture was sold from John Taylor--and eventually was picked up and claimed by Honorias Powell. (Samuel Bird starts showing in Orange Co. VA records as early as 1736 in the Order Books. In addition, a Samuel Bird is in King and Queen Co., VA in 1734, witnessing a deed. I'm still looking for more information.) Marla

    07/21/2005 11:24:25
    1. Servants, Indentured and otherwise
    2. Paul Drake
    3. There are too many misconceptions among us about indentured servants, erroneous ideas giving rise to question after question having to do with determining when any particular servant arrived in the VA Colony. We all need to remember that in most instances we simply can not know anything about arrival here unless we have found that ancestor in the records, not here, but of the place from which he/she came. Almost never do our land patent records reveal WHEN that ancestor came. Indeed, the patent may have and often did issue many years after the arrival of the immigrant ancestor. How so? Because not only did it take a couple years at very best to perfect a patent after making application containing the names of the servants, but also because only in very rare circumstances did the person who claimed the headright ever pay any shipper or ship's master to bring anyone here. The business of moving servants was brisk, widespread and profitable in the 17th and 18th centuries. The fare for most servants to come here was paid for by old country entrepreneurs (or so ordered by courts which paid those entrepreneurs) who wanted to bring a boat load over, after which that entrepreneur here sold the headrights of those servants, sometimes even by going about the countryside peddling such, but more often through brokers here who also added a measure of profit to what the shipper had been paid and then resold the people. Much more often than not, it would have been silly and very poor business for a Virginia planter to take the risk of paying in advance for a shipper in Britain (or Germany or wherever) to bring, say, 10 people to his Southern plantation. Why? Because almost always the planter would have been buying a "pig in a poke", having never seen - examined - or conversed with the new servant, and even more importantly, as often happened, the servant might die during the passage and the planter would be out his investment. So it was that ships' captains, ships' owners, brokers and speculators of every color and stripe, usually operating out of the old country, advertised or otherwise got the word out that they intended to take a shipload of servants to "Virginia" (or wherever). Those poor folks who wanted to trade years of their life for the chance to come here searched out those shippers and made a deal for some number years of work to pay for the trip, often for themselves and all their family - wives and kids and whoever. All then waited for the ship to depart, suffered the hardships of the voyage and, once here, watched as their shipper sold their headrights to a broker or whoever else was in the market for such labor. Did some planters actually pay the shipper ahead of time? Of course, but only when that planter wanted to see to the passage of specific persons - family or friends. Those deals were few and far between however, and as said, most servants were unknown to the person who ultimately claimed land through the headright of that person. After buying the headright, the new owner here was free to sell that headright as and to whom he chose, and the servant then was obligated to serve out his/her term for that new owner. No better example of the system exists than that of Owen Griffith who bargained his headright to a ships captain in Bristol in 1657, arrived here not long thereafter almost surely, watched as his headright was sold to someone, following which in in 1666 - 9 years later! - the well known Virginian, Anthony Spiltimber, received a patent using Griffith's headright. After Spiltimber's patent, 2 more people used that same headright on different occasions, one usage in 1703, 4 full years after poor old Owen had died. Nugents writings are literally FULL of such examples. So, all should forever remember that the date of a patent tells you nothing whatever about when your ancestor arrived here, nor who first owned his/her headright, nor where that servant lived after arriving here. Enough. If you want more information, records, and evidence of this widespread practice, tell me privately and I will provide some sources. Paul

    07/21/2005 09:47:24
    1. JOHNSONS/McKINNEY
    2. JUst thought I would update a request in case any new researchers are out there looking for same info I am. I am looking for info on my GG grandfather (William?) McKinney "Kinney" JOhnson b. 1798 in Surry Co., NC and d. between 1860-70 in Murray CO., Ga. HIs spouse was Sarah (McKinney?) b. @1805 in Surry CO., She may have been a sister to Rosanna/Rosamond McKinney who m. Churchill B. Tucker in about 1839 in Surry Co. and later went to Murray Co., Ga. also. In 1835 "Kinney" Johnson owned land on Beaverdam in Capt. Mears district. Owning land bordering his property was the following JOHNSON males whom I "suspect" may have been kin to him..KIMBRO (sp: Quinnett Pace), DRURY, and either CHARLES. or CALVIN. NOTE: I found a Wm. JOhnson m. Sarah McKinney in 1792 in Brunswick Co., VA. NOt sure if they could be parents of my "Kinney" I suspect it maybe possible since my "Kinney" has same first name of this William and also maiden name of Sarah(McKinney). The name JAMES is very prominent down thru the male JOHNSON line including me. My dad have 6 brothers and each of them named a son JAMES, not sure if this coincidental or havd some connection to the JOHNSON ancestry. any help would be appreciated. I have been working on this for over ten years now along with several other distant cousins with no luck. PLan to attend family reunion in sept. and would love to have new info to pass on. jcjohnson/Virginia

    07/21/2005 08:58:42
    1. Mason Maget
    2. Gene Ann Duyck
    3. William and Sally MURRAY MAGET had a daughter named Mason. William was born before 1763 and died in 1829. Mason was born 1780-1790 per the NC 1830 & 1840 census. I have not located her in the 1850 census. Gene Ann Duyck Today's Topics: #1 Fw: Mason as middle name. ["Mary Jane Phillips-Matz" #2 Mason name [Grace Upshaw #3 RE: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Mason name ["William Mallory" ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Jane Phillips-Matz To: VA-SOUTHSIDE@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 10:59 AM Subject: Mason as middle name. Dear Listers, The given name MASON comes down in my family from 1728, when MASON PHILLIPS'S birth was noted in the Bristol Parish, Prince George County, VA Vestry Book. MASON appears as a first name or middle name from 1728 on down to my own generation. Mason Phillips, William Mason Phillips, Thomas Mason Phillips and a lot more. Does anyone else from Southside have MASON as a first name or middle name or is anyone descended from a MASON family? Many thanks, Mary Jane Phillips

    07/21/2005 02:41:07
    1. RE: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Mason name
    2. William Mallory
    3. Actually, we have had several in my family. William Mason Mallory -----Original Message----- From: Grace Upshaw [mailto:gu6225@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 5:30 PM To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Mason name I believe a John Hall who left Amelia Co., Va., in the 1700s and moved to N.C had a daughter named Mason. Quite unusual for a girl, I would think. ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== VAGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagenweb Please contact List Administrator if you experience problems getting unsubscribed from this list. glh@naxs.com ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

    07/20/2005 02:12:35
    1. Mason name
    2. Grace Upshaw
    3. I believe a John Hall who left Amelia Co., Va., in the 1700s and moved to N.C had a daughter named Mason. Quite unusual for a girl, I would think.

    07/20/2005 10:30:21
    1. Fw: Mason as middle name.
    2. Mary Jane Phillips-Matz
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Jane Phillips-Matz To: VA-SOUTHSIDE@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 10:59 AM Subject: Mason as middle name. Dear Listers, The given name MASON comes down in my family from 1728, when MASON PHILLIPS'S birth was noted in the Bristol Parish, Prince George County, VA Vestry Book. MASON appears as a first name or middle name from 1728 on down to my own generation. Mason Phillips, William Mason Phillips, Thomas Mason Phillips and a lot more. Does anyone else from Southside have MASON as a first name or middle name or is anyone descended from a MASON family? Many thanks, Mary Jane Phillips

    07/20/2005 05:18:27