I was asked by a subscriber, whose name I accidentally deleted, why a man/person might appear on a land tax list, yet the assessment be zero. In my answer, I neglected to say that after taking possession, a land grantee usually was exempt from taxes while he was "seating" the tract, i.e., building a cabin/house and clearing or breaking some of the ground to the plow.

Dear Subscribers, I am sure many of you already use the Virginia Road Orders website. Many colonial counties are included. Remove the parentheses before cutting and pasting. (_http://www.virginiadot.org/vtrc/main/historic_roads.htm_ (http://www.virginiadot.org/vtrc/main/historic_roads.htm) ) The men (and women) who are mentioned in these early road orders frequently removed to North Carolina, or their descendants did. (Interestingly, the one road order book I read for Goochland Co. indicated women, at various times, operated a ferry.) There is generally an index at the end of each booklet. E.W.Wallace

Are you having trouble finding your colonial Williams family of Richmond Co., VA? Perhaps this information will help someone. Submitted by E.W.Wallace HENRY WILLIAMS. (d. testate ca 1785, Caswell Co. NC; Will Bk B-page 92 contains his will) (This is my ancestor. Some of his children migrated to Madison Co., KY. Others seem to have migrated to Tennessee. I will exchange information, but PLEASE, not every person with the surname Williams is related to this Williams family. Please do your homework before contacting me. E.W.W. Henry Williams of colonial Brunswick Co. and perhaps of Pittsylvania Co., VA Caveat: Henry Williams, who died in Caswell Co. NC, is not the same Henry Williams who appears in Brunswick Co., VA records in 1753. This excerpt from Brunswick Co. Deed Bk 5-469 indicates some of the relationships of Henry Williams of Brunswick Co. VA and thus eliminates him as related to Henry Williams, son of Daniel Williams, the father having died testate in Granville Co. NC in 1759. The information in brackets has been added by this writer: "638 (469) Henry Williams of Northfarnham Parish in Richmond Co. [Northern Neck Virginia] to Luke Williams of same. 20 Oct 1753. 50 pds VA. (No acres) which John Williams the father of Luke Williams & Henry Williams purchased from John Davis, on Nottoway River, joining Matthews. Wit: Joshua (I) Hightower, John Phenix, Charnel Hightower, Francis Elmer, John (x) Gunter, Hugh Williams. Proved 27 Nov 1753. Litt Tazewell CC. [Dr. Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., BRUNSWICK COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEED BOOKS, Vol. 2, 1744-1755-1764 [Published by author, n.d.] [Fam Hist Lib, 975.5575, R2bs, V. 2] A subsequent deed indicates the wife of Henry Williams of Richmond Co., VA was named Priscilla. Henry Williams of Richmond Co. appears on a list of Richmond County Voters, 1758. (Joanne Lovelace Nance, "Richmond County Voters 1758," MAGAZINE OF VIRGINIA GENEALOGY, V. 25, No. [Richmond, VA: Virginia Genealogical Society, 1 Feb 1987], pp. 20-22) Furthermore, there is a later recorded power of attorney in Pittsylvania Co., VA dated 16 Dec 1776 in which a Henry Williams "late of Pittsylvania" makes his good friend Richard Brown of the same county his attorney "to recieve all the debs due me." Because the POA is witnessed by Luke Williams, William Williams, Chas. Womack, Katherine Williams, and Richard Yates, Jr., we have reason to suspect he is not the Henry Williams of Caswell Co., especially since he is associated with one Luke Williams. We suspect he is the same person or a namesake of that Henry Williams, formerly of Richmond Co., VA in Northern Neck Virginia. (TLC Genealogy, PITTSYLVANIA COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEED BOOK 4 (1774-1778) [Miami Beach: TLC Genealogy, 1991], p. 40)

I'm looking at a list of registered Marks and Brands for 1796 and had a question. Would a single person have two different registered marks/brands or should I assume it is two different people with the same name? For example John Smith = smooth crop of right ear and two slits in left ear John Smith = swallow tail in right ear and slit under left ear Thanks! Joel

Yes, Don. I would expect a full inventory of Robert King's personal effects and a later report of the sale naming the purchasers and amounts paid. Also court minutes at least acknowledging receipt of these reports. In some courts the clerk would transcribe the whole inventory. In others he just refers to it. Happy hunting, Myron E. Williams Crossville, TN Donald King wrote: > On Dec 10, 1694 in the Isle of Wight Co Court, the Court ordered that > Sarah King and Robert King administer the estate of Robert King, > decd. Since there was no Will to process, should there have been > paperwork generated, without regard as to whether it is still extant, > in order to administer the estate? > > Thanks, > Don > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > The USGenWeb Project http://www.usgenweb.org > Do Not Post Chain Letters, Virus Warnings, etc. to this list. > This list is for Genealogy, History and Related Topics. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

On Dec 10, 1694 in the Isle of Wight Co Court, the Court ordered that Sarah King and Robert King administer the estate of Robert King, decd. Since there was no Will to process, should there have been paperwork generated, without regard as to whether it is still extant, in order to administer the estate? Thanks, Don

Old handwriting samples from rootsweb. http://www.rootsweb.com/~genepool/oldalpha.htm Harold

Samples of Old style handwriting site; http://amberskyline.com/treasuremaps/x-prop.html

Thanks Harvey, I have an old photosuite program LE but does not seem to help alot. II knew in the more "expensive" programs my friend before could actually take a person out of a photo in a group and things like that so I guess I wondered it the actual background could be taken out. did have a chance to see what the "negative" image did when I was on Heritage Quest sight it had that option, it is "still " hard to read though ;(, I guess just the cursive handwriting. christy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harvey Wade" <hrvwade@yahoo.com> To: "cristy" <poppy0206@cox.net> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] question about old document reading > Cristy, > > Photoshop is probably overkill for most everybody. For what you want > to do, Photoshop Elements, for about $70, will do most of the touch up > work. > Even some of the free stuff that comes with digital cameras can be made to > work to a certain degree. > > Harvey > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cristy" <poppy0206@cox.net> > To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:30 PM > Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] question about old document reading > > >> Hi Harvey, >> >> Isnt that an expensive program? I knew a photographer who I thought used >> that but he was a pro and said his was about 600 bucks or so,,whew, I > guess >> there are other versions. He had fixed some photos for me but he is not >> around now ;(. >> cristy >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Harvey Wade" <hrvwade@yahoo.com> >> To: "cristy" <poppy0206@cox.net> >> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:05 PM >> Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] question about old document reading >> >> >> > Adobe Photoshop >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "cristy" <poppy0206@cox.net> >> > To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 4:49 PM >> > Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] question about old document reading >> > >> > >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> Can anyone tell me if there is a way to get rid of the dark > color/grainy >> > look to old documents that have been copied so that the actual text > stands >> > out better? I have old documents in cursive writing and I dont know if > it >> > is the copy maching that did it or the original copy, I think perhaps > the >> > original. But even magnifying it on the computer, it is hard to read > due >> > to >> > the grainy darker blotchy background of the text. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> cristy >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== >> >> USGenWeb Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb >> >> Do Not Flame other Members on List. >> >> If you have problems or concerns with list posts, contact the List >> > Administrator. glh@naxs.com >> >> >> >> ============================== >> >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== >> USGenWeb Archives Census Project >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/ >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > >

Harvey: I have tried using Photoshop Elements to whiten the gray background on some of these old images, but it has not helped much. It may be I don't know the vocabulary, so don't know what to adjust. Any insight you can offer? Myron E. Williams Crossville, TN cristy wrote: > Thanks Harvey, > > I have an old photosuite program LE but does not seem to help alot. > II knew in the more "expensive" programs my friend before could > actually take a person out of a photo in a group and things like that > so I guess I wondered it the actual background could be taken out. > did have a chance to see what the "negative" image did when I was on > Heritage Quest sight it had that option, it is "still " hard to read > though ;(, I guess just the cursive handwriting. > > christy > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harvey Wade" <hrvwade@yahoo.com> > To: "cristy" <poppy0206@cox.net> > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 9:06 AM > Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] question about old document reading > > >> Cristy, >> >> Photoshop is probably overkill for most everybody. For what you >> want >> to do, Photoshop Elements, for about $70, will do most of the touch >> up work. >> Even some of the free stuff that comes with digital cameras can be >> made to >> work to a certain degree. >> >> Harvey >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "cristy" <poppy0206@cox.net> >> To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] question about old document reading >> >> >>> Hi Harvey, >>> >>> Isnt that an expensive program? I knew a photographer who I thought >>> used >>> that but he was a pro and said his was about 600 bucks or so,,whew, I >> >> guess >> >>> there are other versions. He had fixed some photos for me but he is >>> not >>> around now ;(. >>> cristy >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harvey Wade" <hrvwade@yahoo.com> >>> To: "cristy" <poppy0206@cox.net> >>> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:05 PM >>> Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] question about old document reading >>> >>> >>> > Adobe Photoshop >>> > >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cristy" <poppy0206@cox.net> >>> > To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> >>> > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 4:49 PM >>> > Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] question about old document reading >>> > >>> > >>> >> Hi, >>> >> >>> >> Can anyone tell me if there is a way to get rid of the dark >> >> color/grainy >> >>> > look to old documents that have been copied so that the actual text >> >> stands >> >>> > out better? I have old documents in cursive writing and I dont >>> know if >> >> it >> >>> > is the copy maching that did it or the original copy, I think perhaps >> >> the >> >>> > original. But even magnifying it on the computer, it is hard to read >> >> due >> >>> > to >>> > the grainy darker blotchy background of the text. >>> >> >>> >> Thanks, >>> >> cristy >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== >>> >> USGenWeb Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb >>> >> Do Not Flame other Members on List. >>> >> If you have problems or concerns with list posts, contact the List >>> > Administrator. glh@naxs.com >>> >> >>> >> ============================== >>> >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added >>> in the >>> >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>> > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== >>> USGenWeb Archives Census Project >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/ >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >>> >> >> > > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > VAGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagenweb > Please contact List Administrator if you experience problems > getting unsubscribed from this list. glh@naxs.com > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Christy: According to the Ancestry's Redbook there was newspapers in North Carolina as early as 1751. For those old newspapers that have survived from that state you might check with the NC State Archives. They have the most extensive collection on film. You might also check with a Library in the county where the death/burial took place. Alice -----Original Message----- From: cristy [mailto:poppy0206@cox.net] Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 10:21 AM To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Question please about obits for NC Hi, I know this is NC and not VA, but they are so close I thought you'd not mind the question. Does anyone know if they had obituaries out for the years 1907 and 1936 in NC and if so, how I would find them if I have the death dates. Thanks, christy ______________________________

AND PRONOUNCED, "HAMNSIDNEY" BY VIRGINIANS....ONE WORD, SORT OF, WITH THE P & D IN "HAMPDEN" DROPPED....ALMOST LIKE "HAMANEGGS". ----- Original Message ----- From: <Suzandcarl@aol.com> To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Hampden Sidney College.... > FYI. It is spelled Hampden-Sydney College. > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > Problems Subscribing or Unsubscribing ? Contact: > G. Lee Hearl List Adm. at: glh@naxs.com > Hosted by Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Carolynn, Here is the link for Hampden-Sydney College in Farmville, VA. http://www.hsc.edu/ And here is the link to their Eggleston Library on-line catalogue. http://207.42.173.7/ H-S has always been a men's college and the names you listed are a fair representation of Prince Edward, Charlotte, and Campbell County scions. >From what you wrote I imagine the other pages were continuations of the list -- what exactly are you looking for in this publication? Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: <Waldonhaus@aol.com> To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 12:38 PM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Hampden-Sidney College > I have a photocopy of the title page and one other page of the "Bulletin of > Hampden-Sidney College, General Catalogue of Officers and Students > 1776-1906," published by the College, as it was reprinted in November 1908 in Vol. III, > No. 4 of some unidentified publication, probably a journal or periodical. > > I tried PERSI for locating the article but it did not come up. > > Would anyone on this list happen to know what publication that might have > been? Hampden-Sidney College is in Hampden-Sidney, Prince Edward County, > Virginia. > > The names on the page I do have a copy of are from the 1850s and include: > Ford, Fowler, Gardner, Hatcher, Hughes, Hanson, Johns, Jones, Jordan, Kelso, > Knauff (mine), Lacy, McClanahan, McPhail, Marshall, Miller, Morgan, Morris, > Morton, Payne, Pollard, Richardson, Seay, Speed, Spencer, Taliaferro, Tinsley, > Venable, Walthall, Watson, Whitley, Williamson. For some of them there is > additional information, other than the years they attended the College. > > Carolynn in CA > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > The USGenWeb Project http://www.usgenweb.org > Do Not Post Chain Letters, Virus Warnings, etc. to this list. > This list is for Genealogy, History and Related Topics. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hi Harvey, Isnt that an expensive program? I knew a photographer who I thought used that but he was a pro and said his was about 600 bucks or so,,whew, I guess there are other versions. He had fixed some photos for me but he is not around now ;(. cristy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harvey Wade" <hrvwade@yahoo.com> To: "cristy" <poppy0206@cox.net> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] question about old document reading > Adobe Photoshop > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cristy" <poppy0206@cox.net> > To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 4:49 PM > Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] question about old document reading > > >> Hi, >> >> Can anyone tell me if there is a way to get rid of the dark color/grainy > look to old documents that have been copied so that the actual text stands > out better? I have old documents in cursive writing and I dont know if it > is the copy maching that did it or the original copy, I think perhaps the > original. But even magnifying it on the computer, it is hard to read due > to > the grainy darker blotchy background of the text. >> >> Thanks, >> cristy >> >> >> ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== >> USGenWeb Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb >> Do Not Flame other Members on List. >> If you have problems or concerns with list posts, contact the List > Administrator. glh@naxs.com >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > >

Hi Myron, Thanks, that was my next question I just asked. I do have irfanview . Ill look and see if I can figure out how to view it as a negative image. Thank you Paul also. cristy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Myron E. Williams" <myronwms@charter.net> To: "cristy" <poppy0206@cox.net> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] question about old document reading > Cristy: > > Not a direct answer to your question, but I find that viewing the NEGATIVE > image often helps. If your image viewer doesn't offer a negative option, > try Irfanview. It is free for personal use. Google can find it. > > Myron E. Williams > Crossville, TN > > > cristy wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>Can anyone tell me if there is a way to get rid of the dark color/grainy >>look to old documents that have been copied so that the actual text stands >>out better? I have old documents in cursive writing and I dont know if it >>is the copy maching that did it or the original copy, I think perhaps the >>original. But even magnifying it on the computer, it is hard to read due >>to the grainy darker blotchy background of the text. >> >>Thanks, >>cristy >> >> >>==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== >>USGenWeb Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb >>Do Not Flame other Members on List. >>If you have problems or concerns with list posts, contact the List >>Administrator. glh@naxs.com >> >>============================== >>Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >

FYI. It is spelled Hampden-Sydney College.

Hi, Can anyone tell me if there is a way to get rid of the dark color/grainy look to old documents that have been copied so that the actual text stands out better? I have old documents in cursive writing and I dont know if it is the copy maching that did it or the original copy, I think perhaps the original. But even magnifying it on the computer, it is hard to read due to the grainy darker blotchy background of the text. Thanks, cristy

Current Irfanview is version 3.97 or such. Be sure you have the plug-ins, too. Open the picture, click on the IMAGE tab, then NEGATIVE. Quite a program! Myron cristy wrote: > Hi Myron, > > Thanks, that was my next question I just asked. I do have irfanview > . Ill look and see if I can figure out how to view it as a negative > image. Thank you Paul also. > > cristy > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Myron E. Williams" > <myronwms@charter.net> > To: "cristy" <poppy0206@cox.net> > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:04 PM > Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] question about old document reading > > >> Cristy: >> >> Not a direct answer to your question, but I find that viewing the >> NEGATIVE image often helps. If your image viewer doesn't offer a >> negative option, try Irfanview. It is free for personal use. Google >> can find it. >> >> Myron E. Williams >> Crossville, TN >> >> >> cristy wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Can anyone tell me if there is a way to get rid of the dark >>> color/grainy look to old documents that have been copied so that the >>> actual text stands out better? I have old documents in cursive >>> writing and I dont know if it is the copy maching that did it or the >>> original copy, I think perhaps the original. But even magnifying it >>> on the computer, it is hard to read due to the grainy darker blotchy >>> background of the text. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> cristy >>> >>> >>> ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== >>> USGenWeb Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb >>> Do Not Flame other Members on List. >>> If you have problems or concerns with list posts, contact the List >>> Administrator. glh@naxs.com >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>> >>> >> > > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > Do not post Advertisements, Chain Letters, Virus Warnings etc. to this > list. If in doubt, Contact: G. Lee Hearl, Adm. at: glh@naxs.com > Hosted by Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Christy, Who's "they"? No one has an obituary collection from that period but you can search newspaper collections. Bob Juch http://www.Juch.org -----Original Message----- From: cristy [mailto:poppy0206@cox.net] Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:21 PM To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Question please about obits for NC Hi, I know this is NC and not VA, but they are so close I thought you'd not mind the question. Does anyone know if they had obituaries out for the years 1907 and 1936 in NC and if so, how I would find them if I have the death dates. Thanks, christy

Hi, I know this is NC and not VA, but they are so close I thought you'd not mind the question. Does anyone know if they had obituaries out for the years 1907 and 1936 in NC and if so, how I would find them if I have the death dates. Thanks, christy