In a message dated 8/24/2005 8:36:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, yorkdkf@cox.net writes: > http://departments.umw.edu/hipr/www/Fredericksburg/buildads.htm > > Thank you so much, Doris, for that info. Grace

Paul and All, Have you seen this written in wills before (and personality)? Does it have any special meaning? Thanks, Grace 1729-30...THOMAS BUSHAW (sic) made a will in Somerset Co.,MD. He gave his two eldest sons, viz: GARRET and WILLIAM BASHAW, 100 acres of HOGG DOWN, which he had bought from GILES BUSHAW (sic); and personality; if said sons should die without issue, said land to pass to younger sons. DANIEL CORBETT to live on said land for 5 years.

Over the years I've compiled these Va genealogy sites and put them in my "favorites." Maybe something will help someone else. I checked them this morning to be sure that they're current. If you cannot get there on your server, there is a problem from your end. :) http://www.myvirginiagenealogy.com/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/va/miscella.htm http://www.lva.lib.va.us/ChanceryWebQ/ChanceryBasicQuery.asp#basicdatastart http://ajax.lva.lib.va.us/F/?func=file&file_name=find-b-clas30& http://lvaimage.lib.va.us/BPW/indexes/711-712.html http://listlva.lib.va.us/cgi-bin/wa.exe?S1=va-roots http://departments.umw.edu/hipr/www/Fredericksburg/buildads.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/va/vafiles.htm http://www.freesurnamesearch.com/search/va.html http://www.virginians.com/index.htm http://virginiaobits.homestead.com/ http://www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com/virginiarecords.html http://www.virginiadot.org/vtrc/main/historic_roads.htm http://ajax.lva.lib.va.us/F/?func=file&file_name=find-b-clas27&local_base=CL AS27 http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagenweb/county2.htm Doris in VA

Hello Lists, Has anyone heard of Don? He has a website on GenCircles.com with several names the same as names in my data, I tried e-mailing him at tilston@pe.net, but the mail bounced. I would likr to hear from him, if possible. Best Wishes, Lloyd http://www.gencircles.com/users/lhite31/2/ [Walker Lowery] http://www.gencircles.com/users/lhite31/4/ [Standley Hite/John Hughes]

Thanks for all your help....I found Cousin Lou on HeritageQuest. (she does have a daughter Sally Annie b. 1872 in Va...so I assumed William ...tin was the family she belonged with. I couldn't make out the name, like most of you I searched for all the Williams and found Heritage Quest have him listed as a Martin...It looked like Keartin to me...but whoever heard of that as a Mecklenburg area name?! I also searched for Harrison and Boyce the names of the sons and came up with nothing...sooooo Maybe somebody knows/knew of these folks: Nannie Eugenia "Lou" Elliott married William J A Smith 21 Dec 1869 Mecklenburg co Va. in a double wedding with her sister Virginia Ann "Jennie" Elliott & Edward Byron Brewer. Lou was born 28 Feb 1853 and died 14 March 1932. (I can't find her in 1930 census) William Smith served in the 14th Va Infantry CSA. In 1900 they were in Black Walnut District of Halifax Co. VA Lou listed as mother of 7 with 5 living. In 1910 they were in Mecklenburg, Bluestone District, Jeffries Road (William died 1912) At one time Lou was the hotel manager of the Grace Hotel in Clarksville and a hotel in Finchley Va. Lou and William are buried at Bluestone Baptist Church Cemetery with their son Walter. The other 4 children are "lost"....I had hoped I had located Sally Children: 1. Sally Annie Elliott b. 1872 in Va. She was not with her parents in 1910 census. 2. Mary E "Mollie" Elliott born Dec 1874 in NC. She was single and living with parents in 1910. 3. Beuna V Smith born April 1877 in NC. She married Mr Shelton (after 1910) and he raised "fine horses" according to cousins...had one daughter Mollie Shelton who never married. There whereabouts "unknown" 4. Willie W Smith was born August 1878. He was not located in 1920. 5. Walter E Smith was born Feb 1884 and died 1914. Buried at Bluestone Any help will be appreciated. Mary

Mary, William's last name is definitely Martin but I don't think your Lou Smith belongs to that family. After looking at the page I think the 1920 census taker made a mistake and put the numbers on the wrong line; I believe Lou belongs to the Hulbert Lawson family just above William. That family is: Hulbert Lawson, 28, head, born Virginia Frances S., 26, wife, born VA Bessie, 4 5/12, daughter, born VA Next line is: Lou Smith, 54, mother-in-law, born VA Next line starts the William Martin family, all of whom were born in North Carolina. I checked the 1930 census. The Lawsons are still in Chase City on West Sycamore Street, but Lou is not with them. There is also a mix up of the names of the wife and daughter: Hulbert O. Lawson, 39, head Bessie L., 37, wife ??? Frances, 15, daughter ???? All three were born in VA, but wife???Bessie said her parents were born in NC. You'll have sort it all out. Does the Lawson name jive more with what you know? If you have any questions, please contact me off-list at westview@brookneal.net kathy > Would someone with access to 1920 census please tell me their best guess on > a last name. > > > 1920 Mecklenburg Co VA Census > Chase City District 4 page 36a > household 682/710 > > Lou Smith is listed as mother-in-law age 54 > next is William __??_tin age 47 Born in NC > Sarah A wife 44 > Fannie S daughter 18 > Willie L daughter 15 > Harrison G son 13 > Boyce H son 11 > Pearl O daughter 7 > Thomas R son 4 4/12

Would someone with access to 1920 census please tell me their best guess on a last name. 1920 Mecklenburg Co VA Census Chase City District 4 page 36a household 682/710 Lou Smith is listed as mother-in-law age 54 next is William __??_tin age 47 Born in NC Sarah A wife 44 Fannie S daughter 18 Willie L daughter 15 Harrison G son 13 Boyce H son 11 Pearl O daughter 7 Thomas R son 4 4/12 I located "my cousins" searching for Lou Smith (Lougenia Elliott Smith) and found her living with a daughter and her family...but I can't make out the last name. Can't tell if it starts with "K" or "H" and either way it's a new one to me. Thanks for you help! Mary

Mary: William's family name is MARTIN. At least the indexer thought so. (Using Heritage Quest I searched the 47 year old males with given name William in Mecklenburg County.) Myron E. Williams Crossville, TN Mary Seamster wrote: >Would someone with access to 1920 census please tell me their best guess on >a last name. > > >1920 Mecklenburg Co VA Census >Chase City District 4 page 36a >household 682/710 > >Lou Smith is listed as mother-in-law age 54 >next is William __??_tin age 47 Born in NC > Sarah A wife 44 > Fannie S daughter 18 > Willie L daughter 15 > Harrison G son 13 > Boyce H son 11 > Pearl O daughter 7 > Thomas R son 4 4/12 > >I located "my cousins" searching for Lou Smith (Lougenia Elliott Smith) and >found her living with a daughter and her family...but I can't make out the >last name. Can't tell if it starts with "K" or "H" and either way it's a new >one to me. > >Thanks for you help! >Mary > > >==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== >VAGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagenweb >Please contact List Administrator if you experience problems >getting unsubscribed from this list. glh@naxs.com > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

You are correct as to the issuance of warrants, such as for land resulting from headrights. The question, however, as I understood it, concerned grants. If that was not the question, JoAnne, and you were speaking of warrants such as those resulting from paying for transport of folks to the VA Colony, please restate the problem. Thanks. Paul ---- Original Message ----- From: Glojet@aol.com To: Pauldrake@charter.net Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 8:57 PM Subject: Patents etc. It has been my impression the the first step in obtaining a patent was to obtain a "warrant" which than allowed a survey to be made. The person who obtained the warrant could then proceed with the process or sell the warrant. After the survey a patent could be applied for. Am I missinformed? Ed Thornhill ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005

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Quite usually in VA, though not always, a grant was issued by a political subdivision - government, colony, state, etc. - then a survey was ordered and brought about defining the boundaries of the tract the settler proposed to claim under his grant, following which that owner of the grant entered upon the land and "developed" or "seated" it, following which a patent was issued to that individual. The process usually took at least one and more often two years or more. Caveat; those with influence - "pull" - often could accomplish the whole of it with shortcuts. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joanne Kartak Subject: Survey, patent, grant, deed Friends, In compiled records of land patents, grants, and deeds there are lists of grants that include entries like these taken from Augusta Co. records: 1754, Thomas Rowland--on Branch of Looney's--survey, 74 acres. 1757, Robert Mills-- at Timber Ridge--Grant, 160 acres. I understand that "grant" refers to a land transaction from the Commonwealth to an individual, but what did "survey" mean in this context? Besides wanting to learn more, I'm also wondering if I'm correct in believing the only Thomas Rowland anywhere in that area was only 13 yrs. old in 1754. This presents lots of questions, but maybe they'll be answered by knowing what was meant by "survey". Joanne To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-roots.html -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005

My family were around the Patrick County, VA but a relative suggested to check in the "Danville area". Are there any sites online with marriage, death records for around 1830-1870. Thanks so much. Searching for ORANDER, ORRENDER, GILBERT. Maxine

The Sussex Co, VA genweb page states: "The Dillard House, built in 1802 was repository of the clerk's records until the courthouse was built." Sussex Co, VA was formed in 1754 from Surry Co VA. Where were the clerk's records prior to the Dillard House? Is the 1802 courthouse the one in use now? If not, where was the 1802 courthouse? Where was the Dillard House? Is it still standing? thanks

I subscribe to the FREE (almost daily) newsletter from Ancestry. There is a list of recent additions plus a very interesting article 5 days a week by a well-known genealogist, generally, if not always, a certified genalogist. Those of you who have access to Ancestry.com, which many LDS FHCs have on their computers, may be interested that a new addition is about the American Revolution in the South. I will not repeat the URL on Ancestry. I got booted off one Virginia website because I posted a URL concerning an entry on Ancestry.com [who now owns rootsweb!!!], but here is a description of the book which has made its appearance on Ancestry.com Since this book is rather old, it is possible you may be able to interlibrary loan it if you cannot get to a library with Ancestry.com. AMERICAN REVOLUTION, THE SOUTH, 1780 Paullin, Charles O., Carnegie Institution of Washington. Atlas of the Historical Geography of the United States. Baltimore, MD: A. Hoen & Co., Inc., 1932. E.W.Wallace

Greetings, I am seeking info on my Paternal grandmother, Lucy, (maiden name LACY). Lucy b. 1860 d. 1948, m. in 1885 to James Thomas Chandler b. 1862 d. 1933. Their children: CHANDLER, Thomas Richard b. 1882 d. 1954, m.. Berta Rone CHANDLER, Annie D. b. 1885 CHANDLER, Benjamin, b. 1888, d. 1975 CHANDLER, Marshall b. 1890 CHANDLER, Willie Shepard b. 1891 CHANDLER, Armistead b. 1893 CHANDLER, Charlie b. 1895 CHANDLER, Lucy Phoebe b. 1899 CHANDLER, David Dewey b. 1899 CHANDLER, Mary Alice b. 1902 CHANDLER, Laura Henry b. 1902 CHANDLER, Ardelia Pearl b. 1905 Thanks in advance, Larry

Seeking info on: Nannie Chandler b abt 1836 d. 1921 in Halifax County Va, and her children. Nannie might have been a slave to Adolphus Chandler, b. abt 1816, d.1872. Nannie, never married, had the following children. Louise b. abt 1853, -------------------m. James Canada 1872 Mary W. b.abt 1858 ----------------- James Thomas b. abt 1862, d. 1933 -- m. Lucy Lacy 1885 Richard b. abt 1866, -- ------------- m. Bettie Leigh Joicey/Jocey Ann b. abt 1867 --------- m. Henry Easley 1885 Bettie J. b. abt 1869 ------------------ m. John Leigh 1896 Emma b. abt 1870 ------------------- m. Isaac Easley 1885 Sarah H. b. abt 1874 ------------------ m. Vincent Jones 1892 Hallie V. b. abt 1877 ------------------- m. Matthew Younger 1910 Thanks, Larry

The first 4 Volumes of Hening's Statutes are online at the VAGenWeb. I believe they are working toward getting them all online. http://www.vagenweb.org/hening/ Julia French Wood In a message dated 8/17/2005 9:55:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Hdanw@aol.com writes: I would imagine that in order to fully understand these Virginia and other lega terms [events], one would have to study Hening's Statutes. Are they on the Library of Virginia Website?

I would imagine that in order to fully understand these Virginia and other lega terms [events], one would have to study Hening's Statutes. Are they on the Library of Virginia Website? (No--there seem to be references to the books, volumes--23 references). I saw a display of all those bound Statutes at one time, and it seemed to be a mini-law library!!! In their newsletter in the last few years, The Virginia Genealogical Society, I believe, had at least three articles, continued from one issue to another, concerning land rights--entail, primogeniture--enough to put one to sleep, unless one was studying for a bar exam. When you find the answers, will you share with us? You have given some summaries. E.W.Wallace

It's actually a series of books for each county. The Dallas Public LIbrary has a set. Gene Ann From: "Mary Jane Phillips-Matz" <images@ix.netcom.com> To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: 1815 Directory of Virginia Landowners If anyone has this book, I would be very grateful to have help. I am looking for any PHILLIPS entries, anywhere in the state, as I know my family owned land in Prince George in 1819 or 1820. With many, many thanks, Cordially, Mary Jane Phillips-Matz

I would expect that the widow's portion would be determined by the laws of the jurisdiction in which she lived. Each state wrote their own laws of inheritance and they would apply. Tree Mother > Hello Everyone, > > On another list we are wrestling with the question of a widow's rights to > her > husband's property -- land and slaves/moveable property -- in testate (a > will > was written and proven) and intestate estates. And how they differed > before > and after the abolishment of primogeniture soon after the Revolution (at > varying times in different states). > > Am I correct in the following?: > > Under Primogeniture: > > If there was a will, a widow could contest it in court if she was not > bequeathed the equivalent of her dower 1/3 of the value of slaves and > other moveable > personal property (after the payment of debts). However, she would have > had > no legal rights to contest her husband's division of land, as dower rights > then > did not extent to land. > > If there was no will, a widow had a legal right to her dower 1/3 of the > value > of slaves and other moveable personal property, but all of the land went > to > the eldest male heir. > > In both cases if she wanted a place to live she was at the mercy of > friends > and relatives, unless she had other assets (or funds from sale of slaves, > etc.) > that allowed her to support herself, pay rent as a tenant, etc. > > Post-primogeniture: > > If there is a will, a widow could and can contest it if she does not > receive > at least the equivalent of 1/3 of the value of the estate. I believe > that > now there is no legal distinction between land and other assets in > determining > her 1/3, but at least in the ante-bellum south, initially the focus was on > 1/3 > of the land and separately 1/3 of the slaves, the rest. Did widows, > believing > themselves to have got the short end of the stick in their husband's > wills, > then perhaps not ask the court to lay off 1/3 of the land for her dower if > she > chose (or was told by a judge) to take her 1/3 of the entire estate out of > slave-holdings? Were there two separate calculations, land and personal > property? > > If there was no will, the widow was entitled to 1/3 of the value of the > estate. But, my question is the same as that when there is a will. Was > her dower > right based on 1/3 of the value of the entire estate, or separately 1/3 of > the land and 1/3 of personal property? > > Thanks in advance. > > Best Regards, > Janet (Baugh) Hunter > > > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb Archives Census Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/ > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >