FYI The "lost book", that is the Caroline County Survey Book, which started May 22, 1729 and was somehow transported to Kentucky, has been located. A copy of the book is in the Central Rappahannock Heritage Center at 300 Central Road in Fredericksburg, Va. with the mailing address of P.O. Box 8533, Fredricksburg, Va. 22404. The hours are from 10:00 to 4:00 on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Phone 540-373-3705. A modern copy was obtained from Kentucky. Ken Thompson. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/90 - Release Date: 9/5/2005

Here are somewhat garbled notes I have made on a Benjamin Harris whose estimated date of birth i ca 1720 but who died before Oct 1765. I suspect Benjamin is a child of William Harris and Temperance Overton, but if this is an incorrect conclusion, please correct me and tell me your reasons. I cut and paste my notes so frequently that I prefer to cite my sources immediately after the part which I have copied from a compiler of books. This way of making notes is not acceptable to lots of people, but it helps me remember where I found the material (and to go back to it to check on some of my previous theories and to check on other persons associated with the family.) Those who have collected information on this particular Harris family, apparently descendants of William Harris and Temperance Overton, know that the Benjamin Brown family is closely associated with the family of Robert Harris and Mourning Glen. (That is why I note who the witnesses and the neighbors are--and the watercourse, if the document names such.) Submitted by E.W.Wallace BENJAMIN HARRIS I. (ca 1720- bef. 14 Oct 1765 ) Malcolm Hart Harris in "Three William Harrises in Hanover County," in THE VIRGINIA GENEALOGIST, V. 22, pp. 9-15 has presented such a thorough biography of Benjamin, his wife, and offspring that the material will not be repeated here. Harris writes that because Robert Harris, son of William of Cedar Hill, conveyed land to Benjamin Harris, "it seems certain that they were brothers." (Benjamin was the grantor in a 1733 deed in which Robert Harris was grantee, according to Malcolm Harris. The land was on north fork of Little River and it was land left to Benjamin by the will of his father William Harris, decd, "being commonly known as Walker's Neck.") The abstracted deeds are given here: p. 14-15 INDENT. 1 Feb 1733 Robert Harris of Hanover Co. to Benjamin Harris of Co. afsd; 40 pds. sterling money; 256 a. on both sides of north fork of Little River bounded by the lines of Stephen Pettus, John Garland, William Mullin, Benjamin Brown, William Harris and Benjamin Byb. Robert Harris Wit: Thomas Dickinson, James Harris, Richard Harris 1 Feb 1733 ack. by Robert Harris p. 15 INDENT. 1 Feb 1733 Benjamin Harris of Hanover Co. to Robert Harris of Co. afsd; 40 pds sterling money of England; 256 a. left him by the Last Will and Testament of his Father, William Harris dec'd., being commonly known by the name of Walkers Neck. Benjamin Harris Wit: Thos. Dickenson, James Harris, Richard Harris (Rosalie Edith Davis, HANOVER COUNTY, VIRGINIA COURT RECORDS 1733-1735: Deeds, Wills and Inventories [Manchester, MO: Published by author, 1979], p. 4-5) QUESTION: Can anyone identify the witnesses with the surname Harris: James and Richard? Robert Harris later had a son-in-law named James Harris. Is there any documentation about the relationship of James and Richard Harris? Benjamin appeared to be of legal age in 1733 in Hanover Co (Ct Rec p. 15, 1733) Louisa Co. was formed from Hanover Co. ca 1742, and the following abstracted will is probably that of Benjamin Harris, son of William Harris and brother of Major Robert Harris. The latter was to be an executor along with the widow Mary and Frederick Harris. A Benjamin Harris of Trinity Parish, Louisa Co. - d. before Oct 1765 Louisa Co. WB 1-72 Will of Benjamin Harris of Trinity Parish. Wife Mary. 3 sons: Robert, eldest son Overton, & ----. Dau: Nancy. Lands to be divided among my eldest son Overton & son Robert at death of my wife. Exors: wife Mary Harris & two brothers: Frederick Harris & Robert Harris. Signed: Benjamin Harris. Wit: James Overton, Charles Nuckolls, Mary Ratlif. Dated 30 July 1765. Rcd. 14 Oct 1765. (Comment: the name of the omitted child seems to have been Benjamin as indicated in the guardianship document cited below.) (Nancy Chappelear and Kate Binford Hatch, ABSTRACTS OF LOUISA COUNTY, VIRGINIA, WILL BOOKS..., p. 13) The names of the children, Robert and Overton, and the name of the brothers, seems to further identify this Benjamin Harris as one of the brothers of Major Robert Harris (wife Mourning Glen) and thus a child of William Harris and Temperance Overton. From Louisa Co. records: p. 53 Gdn. Bond Frederick Harriss Gdn. to Overton, Robert, Benjamen & Nancy Harriss Orphans of Benja. Harriss Dec'd; 2000 pds. currt. money; Sec. David Anderson & Garrett Minor. 13 Mar. 1774 (Rosalie Edith Davis, LOUISA COUNTY, VIRGINIA 1743-1814: WHERE HAVE ALL THE CHILDREN GONE? [Manchester, MO: Published by author, 1980], p. 8) (We believe Frederick Harris is another brother of Benjamin Harris. By 1774, Robert Harris, sometimes called Major, was deceased.) We believe this land patent belongs to the same Benjamin Harris. Note that the land is adjacent to that of Benjamin Brown. BENJAMIN HARRIS, 699 acs. Louisa Co. on both sides of Hickory Cr., Beg. at Dumas & Browns former C., on the Orphans Line {Orphans of Hugh Owen}, adj. Benjamin Brown; 5 Mar 1747/48, p. 256. 1 Pound 10 Shillings. The sd L. being formerly grt. Jeremiah Dumas by pat. 28 Sep 1728 (PB 13 p. 468} for 400 acs. but upon a Survey lately made by Robert Harris Surveyor of sd Co. is found to contain 699 acs. the Right & Title of which is since become vested in the sd Benjamin Harris Dennis Ray Hudgins, CAVALIERS AND PIONEERS, VOLUME FIVE: 1741-1749 [Richmond, VA: Virginia Genealogical Society] Please note carefully: The following notes --- because of the dates -- pertain to at least one other Benjamin Harris and perhaps to two persons. Here is where a timeline comes in handy. A Younger Benjamin Harris 1785 Another Benjamin Harris of later date resided in Louisa Co. and left a will (WB3-227) dated 1785. His children were Overton, Nancy, Robert and Benj. (No wife was named). The witneses were Charles and Robert Barret, John Crutchfield, Elijah Dickinson. (Nancy Chappelear and Kate Binford Hatch, ABSTRACTS OF LOUISA COUNTY WILLS 1743-1801 [Washington, DC: 1964], p. 93). Because of the naming patterns of the children, this latter Benjamin Harris seems linked to Robert Harris and Mourning Glen--perhaps a nephew. From Louisa Co. GenForum (do a google.com search for louisa county virginia + genealogy) Otherwise, I have to give you a commercial URL, and sometimes rootsweb administrators get really mad. Apparently, it is a commercial outfit where the family likes genealogy!!!!) Still another Benjamin Harris, as the preceding one was deceased ca. 1785. [county not stated, but since it was on the Louisa Co. GenForum, it probably is from Louisa Co. 1800 Book: J, Page: 80, Grantor: Richard Nuckolls, Grantee: Mezzapina, Duke Cosby and Amelia his wife, Date: 08-Dec-1800 Richard Nuckolls of Tennessee to Mezzapina, Duke Cosby and Amelia his wife, Benjamin Harris, Robert Harris, Richard Mantelo and Martha Burrett his wife, Joseph Harris, Thomas Harris, Richard Harris and Nancy Rice Harris, which said Mezzapina is the widow of Robert Harris Dec'd. and said Amelia, Benjamin, Robert, Martha, Burrett, Joseph, Thomas Richard and Nancy Rice are his children and heirs. Richard Nuckolls in the life time of Richard Harrris sold Robert a tract on the waters of Little river on the north and west branch being land where Keziah Nuckolls, mother of said Richard formerly lived; 145 acres adjoining Charles Trainum, Will Nuckolls, Barretts, mill pond. Sig. Richard Nuckolls by William Cook, his attorney. At a much earlier date, the surnames of Nuckolls and Barrett are found in Goochland Co. records. However, by 1800, they seem to be much more common than at earlier dates. Please send corrections--and your impressions--to the list--and to me so that all can share. EWW

Subscriber Janet Harris is somewhat interested in Benjamin Harris. I have notes I have collected over the years on several Benjamin Harrises--in an effort to try to sort out whether any are linked to Major Robert Harris (wife Mourning, maiden name said to be Glen). I have not drawn any conclusions on this fellow. If you have, please share with all of us. I have not checked to see whether he got a land patent. I think I have notes on a couple of other Benjamin Harrises. Question: Is Soblet a Huguenot name? I know Manakin Town, where many of the *French refugees* settled is or was in Goochland Co. For a time, Goochland Co. extended below the James River. For those who suspect he/she may have a Huguenot ancestor of Manakin town, I suggest a google.com search for manakin town + virginia. There are several hits--I didn't read them all. A couple, however, seem to give a brief history, and one is a bookseller. E.W.Wallace BENJAMIN HARRIS OF GOOCHLAND COUNTY, VA - 1737 Goochland Co. Deed Bk A-98 Deed 1 Feb 1737 Benjamin Haris of Goochland Co., carpenter, to Joseph Painter of same, for 20 pds., land on Dutoys branch, bounded by James Soblet, Peter Debt and Thomas Dickins, 200 acres, being part of 400 acres, 200 of which was sold to James Soblet and Joeph Painter. Wit: Tho. Porter, Ralph Flippen, James (+) Patey Signed: Benjamin Harris Recorded 21 March 1737 (Benjamin B. Weisiger., GOOCHLAND COUNTY, VIRGINIA WILLS AND DEEDS, 1728-1736 (Richmond, VA: B. B. Weisiger, c. 1983], p. 13)

I'm looking for more information on this Henry Harris: Spotsylvania Co. VA Order Book 1730-1738 p. 347, Oct, 1734. John Taliferro, Gent., for and in behalf of Alexander Waugh made return of Henry Hares and William Clark's valuation of the buildings of sd. Waugh's tract. Orange Co. VA Order Book 4, p. 39, August 1746 Henry Downs, John Bramham, John Christopher, Henry Harris and Thomas Jones agst. William Morton and Jeremiah Morton. In Chancery. Henry may have been married to this Esther: Orange Co. VA Will Book 2, p. 291. Will of Esther Harris, Oct 18, 1758 Betty Harris, dau. of Moses Harris - (furniture) John Harris, son of Moses Harris (grandson) - (slave) Executor and son: Moses Harris - (dishes, 2 slaves) (signed) Esther Harris Witness: H. Bell, William X Cox, John X Roberts p. 294. Inventory of Esther Harris's Estate by John Goodall, Matthew Davis, Matthew Creed. Returned 26 July, 1759. Henry and Esther may have had a son named Moses Harris: Orange Co. VA Deed Book 3, p. 131, March 22, 1738. Richard Phillips of St. George Parish in Spotsylvania to Moses Harris of St. Mark's, sum of 8 pounds, 100 acres, being a part of a tract granted to Richard Philips of 1,000 ac being in St. Mark's Parish on branches of Pomlicky River, corner of John Cook. (Signed) Richard Phillips. Wit: Zach. Taylor, James Coleman, John Howard Orange Co. VA Order Book 5, p. 444, May 25, 1753 On the motion of Moses Harris, a witness for Abel Gibson agst William Sims, it is ordered said Able pay him for 9 days attendance. Orange Co. VA Order Book 6, p. 298, Nov 25, 1756 Tully Choice to John Bryson. Endorsed by oaths of William Morris, Samuel Estes, Moses Harris. Orange Co. VA Deed Book 13, p. 18, May 24, 1759 Robert Cave and Enice his wife to Moses Harris sum of 30 pounds, 120 ac on South Side of Swift Run up the branch. Wit: James Coursey, John Goodall, William Jackson Orange Co. VA Deed Book 13, p. 43, April 28, 1759 Tully Choice and Ann Choice his wife of Hallifax Co. to John Bryson Jr or Orange, sum of 60 pounds, 570 ac on both sides of Lynch's River in John Bryson Sr.'s line. Wit: James Wayt, Moses Harris, Wm. Cockes, William X Monrow. Orange Co. VA Order Book 13, p. 205, Aug 27, 1761 Honorias Powell to Moses Harris, sum of 30 pounds, 150 ac., it part of a patent of 100 ac granted to Erasmus Taylor. Bounded by Col. George Taylor's line, Mr. James Madison's line, corner of Timothy Johnson. Orange Co. Order Book 7, p. 59, Oct, 1763. Erasmus Taylor and Jan his wife to Moses Harris, acknowledged. Orange Co. VA Order Book 7, 349, Sept. 17, 1765 Under the attachment obtained by Moses Harris agst the estate of John Richards, the sheriff having attached one bay horse and the defendant failing to appear. Orange Co. VA Deed Book 13, Oct, 1765 Moses Harris to John Goodall, sum of 10 pounds, 175 ac on the branches of Taylor's Run at the foot of the Great Mountains, in Taylor's line. Wit: John Golding, John Harris Orange Co. VA Deed Boo 13, p. 51, Oct 2,4 1760 Moses Harris to John Harris, sum of 12 pounds, 10 shillings, 200 ac., bounded, William Bell, James Beasley, in Taylor's line. Wit: John Goodall, John Golding Orange Co. VA Deed Book 16, p. 8, Aug. 27, 1772 Moses Harris and Sarah his wife to to John Goodall, 75 pounds, 134 ac, part of a tract Harris purchased of Erasmus Taylor, Gent., corner of John Goodall in the land he purchased of William Bell. Henry Co. VA Order Book 1, Feb. 15, 1779 The adm. of the estate of Moses Harris is granted to Sarah Harris, with John Heard, H. Harris, John Harris and Samuel Bird her securities. George Waller, John Briscoe, Elisha Walling and John Couch appointed to appraise the estate. Any additional information on this family is appreciated. Marla

In a message dated 9/3/2005 8:01:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Hdanw@aol.com writes: > Dear Subscribers to Harris hunters of colonial Virginia: > > I located a lone John Harris on Goochland Co. tithable list, 1747: > > Tithe List by Jas. Holman, 10 June 1747 > > 5 John Harris list: Demetrius Young, overseer. > > Preceding the above, however, is this Harris male: > > For Southam Parish by Thos Turpin, 10 June 1747: > > 13 for Benj. Harris: Jno. Scrugs, Jno Peters, Jno. Roberts > > (A. Jean Lurvey, GOOCHLAND COUNTY, VIRGINIA TITHE LISTS, 1735-47 > [Springfield, MO: 1979], p. 7) > > Evelyn, Thanks for the information. Someday I hope to go through those tax lists. I am not technically a Harris Hunter, but I believe the above Benjamin Harris was probably the father of Benjamin Harris, Jr., who married Lucy Gaines Turpin in 1795 in Powhatan Co. He was born ca 1716 in Henrico County, wife was Ann Eppes. They lived in what is now Powhatan County, VA. Benjamin Harris, Jr. died ca 1802 (will in Powhatan Co. VA). Lucy Gaines Turpin was probably the granddaughter of the Thomas Turpin above. Thomas was married to Mary Field Jefferson, aunt of President Jefferson. In 1803 Benjamin Harris, Jr.'s widow married William Weldon Bentley, a widower following his first wife Judith Archer's death. Both brought children into the marriage and added some of their own (have lots of info, wills, deeds drawing lines around these connections). William W. Bentley was the brother of my 4g grandmother Rachel Bentley, daughter of Samuel Bentley, d. 1794 Amelia Co. VA, and (we think) a Mary Weldon d/o Samuel Weldon & Sarah Efford. Rachel married Rev. John Hyde Saunders, Jr. in Amelia Co. VA in 1775. John H. Saunders Jr. was a Minister of the Southam Parish. He got formally kicked out of William & Mary College, after he refused to go quietly. Thanks again. Evelyn, I am entirely with you in using your local Family History Center if travel to a location is not possible. Often for counties for which court records have been filmed during the period you are searching (LDS has lots to go!), it is certainly much much cheaper to rent the films at $3.50 or so a pop, then take a trip to the courthouse. I find that on research trips, I'd much rather spend my time scouting out locations where they lived, meeting the local citizens and visiting cemeteries than courthouse research. Best Regards, Janet (Baugh) Hunter

Dear Subscribers to Harris hunters of colonial Virginia: I located a lone John Harris on Goochland Co. tithable list, 1747: Tithe List by Jas. Holman, 10 June 1747 5 John Harris list: Demetrius Young, overseer. Preceding the above, however, is this Harris male: For Southam Parish by Thos Turpin, 10 June 1747: 13 for Benj. Harris: Jno. Scrugs, Jno Peters, Jno. Roberts (A. Jean Lurvey, GOOCHLAND COUNTY, VIRGINIA TITHE LISTS, 1735-47 [Springfield, MO: 1979], p. 7) I believe the numbers are the total number of tithables, which includes slaves. Unlike many other authors, the compiler has not listed slaves by name. If the other males have names, they may be overseers (frequently identified, however) or apprentices or indentured servants. (Colonial Williamsburg re-enactors tell us law students, such as Jefferson, lived with their professor.) A good many of these names will be found later in Louisa Co. or Albemarle Co. or Cumberland Co., which was formed from Goochland Co. (Those county boundary changes have us looking everywhere for our missing ancestors.) Suggestion: If you believe you may have relatives/ancestors in colonial Goochland Co. (along the James River, both north and south of the James River in the beginning), you may want to explore some of the writings of Benjamin B. Weisiger. Dr. Weisiger permitted the Family History Library in Salt Lake City to film a good many of his books, including one of Goochland Co. wills Access the FH Library catalog on _www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org) [lower right of screen has a link] Do an Author search for Weisiger, Benjamin [lower case OK] A long list of Weisiger's works will be shown. Some have been filmed, so check *View Film Notes* at upper part of screen. If Goochland Co. is your research goal, check that title. Note that his Goochland volumes (three of them) have been put on microfiche. Each microfice will cost you about 15 cents apiece to order to your local FH Center (we hope one is near you.) Order them if you so desire--you won't get a better bargain!!!! The microfiche generally stay at your local LDS center, and you can look at them again and again. If a book has been filmed, the index, of course, will be on the last page. Take pen and paper and make notes, and then photocopy if you can the pages which interest you. E.W.Wallace

interesting thought, and may be, though Johnson - 1755 and 1802 - does not extend the definition further than I did, and does not describe "mitts" beyond "mittens". Thanks. I will see what I can find and let you know. I also will include your notion in my next dictionary, credit to you, of course. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: Phyllis Solter To: 'Paul Drake' Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 9:45 AM Subject: RE: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Re: Paul Drake Explaining the phrase "keep your mitts of him" I'd bet. Phyllis Solter -----Original Message----- From: Paul Drake [mailto:pauldrake@charter.net] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 3:50 PM To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Re: Paul Drake Sure is, Audrey, and it will appear in my next volume, now at the publisher and very near done. The word "mittimus" is a term of the criminal practice and refers to an order from any court with jurisdiction and directed both to the sheriff (or constable) and the jailor, whoever that might be. It orders the sheriff to arrest and convey some person to the jailkeeper and also orders that jailor to secure that person as a prisoner, subject to further order of the court. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: Audrey Pool To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 5:12 PM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Re: Paul Drake Paul, Is there such a word in the legal world called "mittimus?" I just recently wrote a skit and legals issues were part of same. The way the word was used indicated "false charges" or something to that effect. I looked in your book, but couldn't find what I need. Thanks, Audrey ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== Do not post Advertisements, Chain Letters, Virus Warnings etc. to this list. If in doubt, Contact: G. Lee Hearl, Adm. at: glh@naxs.com Hosted by Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/89 - Release Date: 9/2/2005 ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== Problems Subscribing or Unsubscribing ? Contact: G. Lee Hearl List Adm. at: glh@naxs.com Hosted by Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/89 - Release Date: 9/2/2005

Dear Audrey and list I have a copy of a 1828 Noah Webster American Dictionary of the English Language. The definition of the word "mittimus" is given as follows: MITTIMUS, n. [L.we send] In law, a precept or command in writing, under the hand or hand and seal of a justice of the peace or other proper officer, directed to the keeper of a prison, requiring him to imprison an offender; a warrant of commitment to prison. 2. A writ for removing records from one court to another Encye. I hope this helps. Alice Sanders -----Original Message----- From: Audrey Pool [mailto:aep@madnet.net] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 2:12 PM To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Paul Drake Paul, Is there such a word in the legal world called "mittimus?" I just recently wrote a skit and legals issues were part of same. The way the word was used indicated "false charges" or something to that effect. I looked in your book, but couldn't find what I need. Thanks, Audrey ______________________________

Sure is, Audrey, and it will appear in my next volume, now at the publisher and very near done. The word "mittimus" is a term of the criminal practice and refers to an order from any court with jurisdiction and directed both to the sheriff (or constable) and the jailor, whoever that might be. It orders the sheriff to arrest and convey some person to the jailkeeper and also orders that jailor to secure that person as a prisoner, subject to further order of the court. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: Audrey Pool To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 5:12 PM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Re: Paul Drake Paul, Is there such a word in the legal world called "mittimus?" I just recently wrote a skit and legals issues were part of same. The way the word was used indicated "false charges" or something to that effect. I looked in your book, but couldn't find what I need. Thanks, Audrey ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== Do not post Advertisements, Chain Letters, Virus Warnings etc. to this list. If in doubt, Contact: G. Lee Hearl, Adm. at: glh@naxs.com Hosted by Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/89 - Release Date: 9/2/2005

Thanks for the suggestion, E. W, and I too read and enjoy that newsletter. I think it must also be noted that, while such as Ancestry.com give the appearance of having MUCH on their pay-for records website (and they really do have a lot of material posted there), it always MUST be remembered that somewhere between 95% and 97% (thanks Janet) of all the sources available for our research and study have NOT yet been abstracted, copied, published or sent beyond the local courthouses and hometown genealogy/history societies. Those zillions of records at your family "wheres" simply will not yet be found anywhere on the internet. So, even if you could somehow look at everything on the internet, you would have not much more than scratched the surface of the myriad records that are out there just for the taking. I teach all my students that they surely should use the Internet and its materials, but by doing that they will not learn anywhere near all that is free to them. I also suggest that, upon commencing a search for a new line, they should first go to the websites of the counties (or towns) WHERE that ancestor or family lived. After reaching that place and learning what all is there available, then go surf the net to their heart's content for whatever else there may be. So, try that, but while you do please don't tell any of us that you have "looked just everywhere" and are at a brick wall, because you have not. Until you EXHAUST the sources of those counties and towns you are not even close to being done. Finally, remember that - just like you - your ancestors left the vast majority of the records of their lives in the counties where they were born, lived, got married, had kids, worked, went to school and died. Just a few of the more obvious exceptions to that general rule are the census records, Soc. Sec. data, any records of their military service or pensions, records of land gained from Colony, State or Federal governments, employment by government or under the Railroad Retirement Act, records of their service or employment in maritime or marine service, tax records and a bunch of criminal records. Good luck. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: Hdanw@aol.com To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 2:33 PM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] News about the Changed Website for NARA [National Archives] If you do not subscribe to Ancestry DAily News, which is free to all, especially genealogists, I urge you today, Sept 2, to read the column about the subject. Here is the UR for the daily news _http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews_ (http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews) If you have time to internet, you really should subscribe. Every weekday there is a very valuable column by a professional genealogist-writer about some important event or some important technique which will sharpen your skills--and we all need that kind of knowledge. And there is the ability to print out the ones which are of especial interest to you--I print out a LOT of them. I can hardly wait to access the revised website for NARA which Michael Neill has described in his column. The military pension records held by that organization for some of my ancestors have been invaluable in unlocking some family *secrets*--at least secret to me..... E.W.Wallace

In the message I just posted about the column of Sept 2 about NARA changed website, I stated the author of the column was Michael Neill. It was George C. Morgan. Sorry, George!!! Anyway, it is a great article, and I'm still waiting to access the NARA website. E.W.Wallace

If you do not subscribe to Ancestry DAily News, which is free to all, especially genealogists, I urge you today, Sept 2, to read the column about the subject. Here is the UR for the daily news _http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews_ (http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews) If you have time to internet, you really should subscribe. Every weekday there is a very valuable column by a professional genealogist-writer about some important event or some important technique which will sharpen your skills--and we all need that kind of knowledge. And there is the ability to print out the ones which are of especial interest to you--I print out a LOT of them. I can hardly wait to access the revised website for NARA which Michael Neill has described in his column. The military pension records held by that organization for some of my ancestors have been invaluable in unlocking some family *secrets*--at least secret to me. Happy hunting!!! And tell your friends. I have posted to several rootsweb sites--but certainly not all of them to which I subscribe!!! E.W.Wallace

Paul, Is there such a word in the legal world called "mittimus?" I just recently wrote a skit and legals issues were part of same. The way the word was used indicated "false charges" or something to that effect. I looked in your book, but couldn't find what I need. Thanks, Audrey

Is there any one out there that would do a look up for me and possibly a transcription? George Lawson Will 10-6-1676 Probate 8-15-1678 W.B. 4, pg 34 Lower Norfolk CO. Left estate to nephew, Lt Col Anthony Lawson Thanks, Doug Lawson Fernley, NV

In my volunteer job at an LDS Family History Center, I try to help people tackle some of their genealogical problems. Some are willing students, and others *know it all*--you know the type. As some past pyschologists have called them, *the yes, but* types!!! When I mentioned to a person trying to do southern US research of early date that deeds often helped establish relationships, she asked in horror, Why should I want to read deeds? Before I could explain, she was off to her *yes, but* research!!! Anyway, here is a deed in a *foreign* Southside Virginia county [the English call such persons *strays*] which refers to persons who later were in at least two North Carolina counties, and, in one instance, a South Carolina district, and I cannot even speak to the other two persons (Irby and Tunstall named in the deed, as they are not in my scope of research). Halifax Co., VA (DB 7-320): "Nov 1, 1768 from Thomas Tunstall of H[alifax] to William Nunn of King and Queen Co. 90 pds. about 400 acres which is the upper part of a greater tract of land patented Apr 10, 1751 to William Irby and by him sold to Daniel Williams who devised the same to be equally divided between his 2 sons James Williams & Joseph Williams by the conveyance from William Irby to Daniel Williams & by his will & the same was conveyed by Joseph Williams to Thomas Tunstall by deed recorded in H[alifax]. Signed - Thomas Tunstall. Wit - none. Recorded 19 Jan 1769 after a commission examined Ruth, the wife of Thomas Tunstall." (TLC, HALIFAX COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEEDS 1767-1772, p. 25) Beginning at the beginning, here is some information on some of the person named in the above deed: William Nunn - Possibly he migrated to Orange Co. NC. At least we should consider him a suspect [a candidate] 1755 Tax list of Orange Co.: William Nunn wt. [with] Sarah, Hanna, Joss & Jean, Negroes 1-4 (William Perry Johnson, "1755 Tax List of Orange County, North Carolina," THE NORTH CAROLINIAN ..., P. 103) At Orange Co., NC court, Aug 1764: "William Nunn, Sheriff, complains about the Prison." Probably a younger William Nunn was later in Caswell Co. NC, where he married Ede Simpson, date of marriage unknown. (She was one of the numerous daughters of Richard Simpson, Sr. of Caswell Co., formerly of Orange Co. in the 1760s and his wife Mary Kincheloe, both formerly of Fairfax Co., VA.. We can verify the Simpson couple's origins in Fairfax Co. by a deed made by Richard's father to the married couple at an earlier date.) Daniel Williams (wife Ursley [unknown surname which bothers a LOT of descendants who demand she be given a surname]). Daniel died testate in 1759 in Granville Co., NC after acquring by patent and by deed much land in Southside Virginia (he previously was of Hanover Co.) Daniel died quite a wealthy man, judging by his will. (widow Ursley married Joseph Reid in Granville Co. two years later; their whereabouts after their marriage are unknown to me. Some surmise they went to South Carolina.) Two sons of Daniel Williams named above, whose will indicates five sons and at least two daughters:: Joseph Wiliams - in Granville Co. he married ca 1766 Sarah Lanier, dau. of Thomas Lanier, in Granville Co., NC. He died after the birth of his daughter Mary, and Sarah Lanier ca 1774 married his cousin Robert Williams of Pittsylvania Co., VA. Joseph's will was recorded in Granville Co., NC late 1773. James Williams - he is the noted Col. James Wiliams who was killed at the Battle of King's Mountain. His wife is believed to be Mary Wallace, but again, there seems to be no documented proof of her maiden name. His will and probate were filed in Caswell Co., NC where he had taken refuge from South Carolina. We suspect that these two patents refer to the same James Williams: Virginia Land Office cards at Virginia State Library give the following information on a James Williams, Lunenburg Co. patents: Williams, James, 16 Aug 1756, 400 A On the head branches of Sneeds Creek adjoining Brown (Pat Bk 33, p. 44) Williams, James, 16 Aug 1756, 810 A beg. at the mouth of Hounds Creek (Pat Bk 33, p. 46) Daniel Williams, the father of these later men, had three other sons: Henry Williams of Caswell Co., NC, where he died testate. Henry had also owned land in Southside Virginia, but that is to be posted in another message--one of these days. Here are some brief notes on Henry: Henry Williams died testate in Caswell Co., NC before January court 1786, when his will was proved. It had been written 12 April 1785. In the will (abstracted) he named his wife Elizabeth; his sons, Daniel, Joseph (land purchased from Henslee), Nathan (land purchased of Thomas Hart), Henry (McVier's old tract). He named his daughters: Nancy Rice, Elizabeth Williams, Susannah Rice, Ursley Duke Peoples, Salley Brookes, Jane Williams; graanddaughter Mary Slade; son-in-law William Rice. His executors were to be his wife and son-in-law, Wm. Rice, and his son Daniel when he arrives at 21. Wit: John Henslee, Wm. Brown, Thomas Rice. (Adapted from Katharine Kerr Kendall, CASWELL COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA WILL BOOKS, 1777-1814 [N.p., Privately published, 1979], p. 17) John Williams S.D. [son of Daniel] This suffix S.D. was noted in some of the colonial Granville Co., NC tax records and apparently followed him wherever he resided. He resided in District 96 South Carolina, which was later called Laurens Co. A correspondent sent this information, taken it is said from Mecklenburg Co., VA marriage records. p. 118: "16 Mar 1759. WILLIAMS, John and Mary Atwood. James Atwood consents. Wit. to consent, Dan Williams, Junr. and George Forest. Sur. Richard Atwood. p. W-1" Daniel Williams the younger. This refers to his marriage in Granville Co. NC. He is believed [not yet proved by me] that he migrated to South Carolina. Marriage in Granville Co., NC: Daniel Williams & Ann Henderson, 31 Jul 1765, Samuel Henderson, Joseph Williams, bm. Charles Bruce, wit. (Brent H. Holcomb, MARRIAGES OF GRANVILLE COUNTY NORTH CAROLINA 1753-1868 [Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., p. 354) Genealogical information is where you find it--nearly anywhere a document has been made!!! Submitted by E.W.Wallace

I hate to be late to the party but I think I missed this one. Would someone be so kind as to repeat the address where these may be found? Thanks. John M. Poythress

First of all I wish to thank the Binns for providing free pages on which to view very early tax returns and selected colonial tithables in Virgnia. And thank you list members for being so generous with your knowledge and expertise on Virginia history. This is one of the most valuable mail lists on Rootsweb for those of us who need to research in Virginia records! ..........along with VAROOTS-L of course. On the 1741 Amelia County tithable list I found Abraham Cocke paying tithables for his slaves and a man named Robert Liverit. In 1742 Robert Liverit is listed again on the Amelia County tax list but in his own household. My question is .... under what circumstances would Abraham Cocke be paying a tithe for this man in 1741? And, does this provide a clue that "my" Robert Liverit has purchased land on which to live at this point in time? Thank you for considering my query. Charlotte Tucker

This is from FHL film 31650, Goochland Co., VA Register of Marriages, 1730-1853 compiled by Virginia State Library. The film from the LVA has a different number, of course. 1748 - 2 (?) April Samuel Flournoy & Elizabeth Harris; John Harris, father. Security & Witnesses: Henry Wood, James Harris, William Harris 1762 - 21 October - John Yarbrough - Barsheba Harris, Thomas Griggs Yarbrough, father. Security & Witnesses: William Meriwether, Wm. Spurlock, Fanney Yarbrough (Where the parent gives consent, of course, one of the partners ia underage.) There may be other Harris marriages, as I did not complete the reading of the reference film. Note that Goochland Co. was formed 1742 or so from Hanover Co. Analysis of land patents may help you distinguish who these Harrises were--from the watercourse, and who their neighbors were. The securities and witnesses no doubt were neighbors. E.W.Wallace

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Hi, Grace. This is but one of the numerous "conditional" transfers. Note, however, that if these words are those originally written, then the legal draftsmanship was not anything to write home about. However that may be, this was a simple devise to the eldest sons, conditioned upon those men having issue. If neither did, then the title would vest in the younger 2 of the sons. Then too, the personalty (personal property) was bequeathed to those elder boys, probably with the same condition, though it is not atall clear. No matter who lived to what age, Corbet was to have a privilege to live on the land for 5 years. Were I you, I would hunt up that deed in order that you might end the obvious lack of clarity. Once again, it is pointed up here how little we may depend on abstracts of any document, especially those involving land transfers. Paul From: GLSGAB@aol.com To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 4:17 PM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Will talk Paul and All, Have you seen this written in wills before (and personality)? Does it have any special meaning? Thanks, Grace 1729-30...THOMAS BUSHAW (sic) made a will in Somerset Co.,MD. He gave his two eldest sons, viz: GARRET and WILLIAM BASHAW, 100 acres of HOGG DOWN, which he had bought from GILES BUSHAW (sic); and personality; if said sons should die without issue, said land to pass to younger sons. DANIEL CORBETT to live on said land for 5 years. ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== VAGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagenweb ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/80 - Release Date: 8/23/2005