FYI, from 1830 until 1892 (when Ellis Island opened), Castle Garden in New York was the first offiicial immigration center. The have an excellent, searchable website http://www.castlegarden.org/ with immigration records including ships manifests that span from 1820 to 1913. I have found several relatives there and highly recommend it. kathy

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Hi, just wondering if anyone had found records through the online Ellis Island Record site. I believe I found one of my ancestors but I cannot read the manifest/writing is faded away totally almost. Would that have been the only place with information on their voyage does anyone know? Thanks, Christine

In the past I have found that seeking the same immigration record from NARA sometimes results in a better microfilm image. Anybody know where else such might be found? ...The NARA keeps the original records and it does not offer a search page. ... www.epinions.com/content_19030773380 - 39k - Cached - Similar pages and try http://www.immigration-records.com/immigrationrecords.asp Genealogy without documentation is nothing. Paul Drake JD Genealogist & Author <www.DrakesBooks.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: cristy To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:54 PM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] offtopic, ellis island records Hi, just wondering if anyone had found records through the online Ellis Island Record site. I believe I found one of my ancestors but I cannot read the manifest/writing is faded away totally almost. Would that have been the only place with information on their voyage does anyone know? Thanks, Christine ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== Rootsweb Acceptable Use Policy forbids posting copyrighted material which you do not own to Rootsweb Lists. ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/243 - Release Date: 1/27/2006 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 962 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 962 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!

I am transcribing a will for John Caldwell(1692-1786) and have a problem with the County Clerks entry when the will was filed and "examined". The portion of the entry relating to the very beginning of the entry is not readable. It starts with what appears to be the letter H, then room for several letters and then the letter a. It looks as follows: "H a District Court held at Prince Edward Courthouse September 4th 1793..." I would think the very beginning is boilerplate and would be the same other wills. Unfortunately I am in Fl and the as you can see the will is in Va. Any thoughts on what the opening word or two words might be? Doug Burnett

Greetings, seeking info on Arthur Sutton. b. ?, & Laura Henry Chandler b. 1902 in Halifax County Virginia. Arthur may have been been a West Indian. Arthur married Afro -American Laura Henry Chandler in 1941, in New York, and they had one daughter, who was born in 1943. Arthur is thought to have died about 1951. I can find no record of Arthur in the US Census. Thanks in advance, Larry My email address is: lchand3835@cox.net. ==================================== In HALIFAX COUNTY, Va. seeking Afro-American Brown Byrd Chandler Chappell Lacy Younger.

It is very possible these families from the Tidewater migrated into a more Southside VA location. Anyone recognize any of them? Audrey Elizabeth City County, VA Will Book 1688-1800: "HOWARD, John. Leg. - daughter Rebacker SKINNER land adjoining William MOREHEAD, reversion to Howard SKINNER; daughter Ann SMITH, reversion to Howard SMITH; daughter Martha WATKINS, reversion to William WATKINS; to Henry BAINS, Sr.; to granddaughter Mary BANES (sic); to Joseph JEGETTS; daughter Elizabeth POOL; daughtrer Sarah MOREHEAD. Exs: thomas SKINNER, William MOREHEAD, George WATKINS. D. July 17, 1755. R. June 7, 1757. Wit: Joseph JEGETTS, Thomas HATTON, Mark PARRISH. Thomas SKINNER and George WATKINS qualified, security, Mark PARISH and Cary SELDEN. Original Will. Order Book 1755-60, p. 135." "BELL, Nathaniel. Leg. - daughter Mary BELL; daughter Jane BELL; daughter Sophia MANEY; daughter Diana HOLLOWAY; at the death of my wife my plantation to be sold and the money divided between my children, John, James, Mary, Jane and Nathaniel Cay BELL; wife Margaret BELL. Exs: wife Margaret and Mr. Miles KING. D. July 18, 1787. R. June 25, 1789. Wit: William HICKS, William KIRBY, Miles KING. Original Will. Account of estate. Paid Mary and Jane BELL; paid Robert MANEY'S wife; paid Robert HOLLOWAY'S wife; paid the widow BELL. Account given of the estate of William SANDIFUR of which Nathaniel BELL was Ex., Paid Mrs. Elizabeth SANDIFUR her proportional part of her husband's estate, paid Robert SANDIFUR, paid William SANDIFUR. R. September 27, 1792. Signed: Miles KING, Shf. Book 1787-1800, p. 100." "BLAND, Rev William. Estate in account with Robert POOL. Audited by Joseph COOPER, Thomas FENN, John LEWIS. May 24, 1792. Book 1787-1800, p. 87." "A Poll For The Election Of Burgesses for County of Elizabeth City, August 23, 1765." BALLARD, Francis POOLE, Robert POOLE, William July 11, 1758, Poll for the Election of Burgesses, Elizabeth City Co, VA BALLARD, Francis BALLARD, William POOL, John Quit Rent Roll-1704, Henry Royall, Sheriff BALLARD, Francis (per SELDEN) POOLE, Thomas ROE, Edward Tithables, 1782, Elizabeth City County, VA: ALMAND, John 1 ALMAND, William 2 BALLARD, Edward 1 BALLARD, Francis 5 BALLARD, William (Paid for by Charles BAYLIS) POOLE, Francis 2 POOL, John 2 POOLE, Robert 5 Members of the House of Burgesses: 1647/48 Hen. POOLE JUSTICES: (The date given is the first record found listed.) BALLARD, Capt Francis 1715 HOLLOWAY, Major John 1716 WALKER, George, Sr 1759 WALKER, George, Jr 1764 WALKER, Jacob 1721 County Clerks: Poole, Hardy (Henry) 1648 "BROWN, William. Leg - to Edward JEGETES; son William; wife Susan; daughter Sarah, reversion of bequests to my children to Edward JEGETES and Elizabeth TULLY. Exs: wife and son William BROWNE, overseer 0 Thomas HOUSE. D. November 3, 1694. Re. February 18, 1694/95. Witness: Thomas FRANCIS, Thomas POOL. Book 1689-99, p. 181. Administration granted Thomas HOUSE in behalf of William BROWNE. Appraisers for the widow, Worleich WESTWOOD and Gabriel DUNN; for the orphan Christopher COPELAND and Thomas BAYLEY. R. Feb 18, 1694/95. Order Book 1689-1699, p. 54. (February 18, 1694/95. Book 1689-99, p. 155 for some of these records)." "BROWNE, William. Rebecca BROWNE qualified as Admtx., security, John JONES, Thomas JONES, Leonard WHITING, Thomas BAYLIS. May 15, 1722. Book 1721-28, p. 49. Appraisal of the estate of William BROWNE by John BUSHELL, James NAYLOR and John POOLE. June 20, 1722. Book 1721-28, p. 54."

I am interested in finding other researchers of the Farmers who lived in Henrico County in the early to mid 1600s. Best Regards, Janet (Baugh) Hunter

Does anyone have ancestors who came from the Parish of St. Margaret's Westminster in London? St. Margaret's is the tiny church which is attached to the side of Westminster Abbey, and it is the parish church for that neighborhood. I believe my PHILLIPS ancestors lived in that parish before coming to Virginia. In Southside, they were in Bristol Parish from 1726 to 1734. (Bristol Parish included Prince George County and Dinwiddie County and part of Chesterfield County.) Many thanks, Mary Jane Phillips in New York City

I have researched any number of individuals who were "substitutes" in both Amer. Rev. War and the Civil War. Best guess about why one person went than another probably had to do with hardship on the entire family unit.

Caroline There was no draft, but many signed up to fill there town's or counties quota for the war (at least in the Civil war, not sure completely on the Rev. war). But whe they really did not want to go there self it was common to hire another person to take there place. But sending a family of ones own family I had not heard of before, but could easily happen. I would not send a sun in my place if I was around back then. If you get any more insite into this later I think the list members would like to know what you found. Cheers Ray http://www.rays-place.com Caroline McCall wrote: >Hi... > >My g-g-g-g-grandfather served in the Rev. War - Virginia Militia - Captain Throgmorton's Company (under Colonel Page) and later in Dixon's Light Horse Troops. On his pension application, he stated that he served in place of his father - at the age of 18 or 19. > >I don't know why he served in his father's place; he didn't state that on his application. Neither did he state his father's name. I'm wondering why an 18-year-old would serve in place of his father. Though I haven't found any information to lead me to a conclusion, I have thought of several possible reasons: > >1)his father might have been ill or injured and couldn't serve. If so, I've wondered if his father was in the military, received an injury that prevented him from serving but felt so strongly about the war that he sent his son (who was probably not his oldest son - from some other records I have found). > >2) his father might have been too old to serve. > >3) his father might have needed to stay home either to support his family or keep a business going. > >4) his father could have been against the war but was expected to serve so he sent a replacement. > >Do these sound like valid reasons, and does anyone have any other ideas as to why he might have replaced his father in the military? I'm not sure that knowing why would help me discover his father's name, but it might help narrow it down. > >Thanks! >Caroline > > > >==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== >Problems Subscribing or Unsubscribing ? Contact: >G. Lee Hearl List Adm. at: glh@naxs.com >Hosted by Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com > >============================== >New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > >

I just added the 1782 tax list for Charlotte, Sussex and Warwick Counties in Virginia to my web site. As I did not have a tax list section I put these in the Census section of the web site. These came from the books that the Census Bureau published in 1908 on the 1790 Census. Because the 1790 Census for Virginia was burned by the British in the war of 1812 these were published in place of the census. http://www.rays-place.com Cheers Ray Brown

Hi... My g-g-g-g-grandfather served in the Rev. War - Virginia Militia - Captain Throgmorton's Company (under Colonel Page) and later in Dixon's Light Horse Troops. On his pension application, he stated that he served in place of his father - at the age of 18 or 19. I don't know why he served in his father's place; he didn't state that on his application. Neither did he state his father's name. I'm wondering why an 18-year-old would serve in place of his father. Though I haven't found any information to lead me to a conclusion, I have thought of several possible reasons: 1)his father might have been ill or injured and couldn't serve. If so, I've wondered if his father was in the military, received an injury that prevented him from serving but felt so strongly about the war that he sent his son (who was probably not his oldest son - from some other records I have found). 2) his father might have been too old to serve. 3) his father might have needed to stay home either to support his family or keep a business going. 4) his father could have been against the war but was expected to serve so he sent a replacement. Do these sound like valid reasons, and does anyone have any other ideas as to why he might have replaced his father in the military? I'm not sure that knowing why would help me discover his father's name, but it might help narrow it down. Thanks! Caroline

I've got one of those in Georgia for the Seminole War, 1818. Raleigh Moon said he went in place of John Moon--more probably his father or his brother? Raleigh was 18--I think his brother may have been younger, but no good birthdate for him--so I've been assuming the John was his father who would have been about 44--does that sound reasonable? We checked NARA--no records for a John Moon at all, but then since he didn't go I didn't think there would be--just hoping! Karen Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: Myron E. Williams<mailto:myronwms@charter.net> To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Revolutionary War Service - "in place of father"??? Caroline: In our wars up to and including the Civil War it was permissible for a man who for any reason did not wish to join up to hire a substitute. So it sounds like pop didn't want to go and son took his place. I would reject your reasons 1 & 2. In those cases Pop would have been exempted anyway. 3 is possible. 4 may be possible, but doesn't sit well with me. If Pop opposed the war, he would likely have opposed it for his son, too. Lacking further evidence, it sounds like son filled in for Pop. End of story. Myron E. Williams Crossville, TN Caroline McCall wrote: >Hi... > >My g-g-g-g-grandfather served in the Rev. War - Virginia Militia - Captain Throgmorton's Company (under Colonel Page) and later in Dixon's Light Horse Troops. On his pension application, he stated that he served in place of his father - at the age of 18 or 19. > >I don't know why he served in his father's place; he didn't state that on his application. Neither did he state his father's name. I'm wondering why an 18-year-old would serve in place of his father. Though I haven't found any information to lead me to a conclusion, I have thought of several possible reasons: > >1)his father might have been ill or injured and couldn't serve. If so, I've wondered if his father was in the military, received an injury that prevented him from serving but felt so strongly about the war that he sent his son (who was probably not his oldest son - from some other records I have found). > >2) his father might have been too old to serve. > >3) his father might have needed to stay home either to support his family or keep a business going. > >4) his father could have been against the war but was expected to serve so he sent a replacement. > >Do these sound like valid reasons, and does anyone have any other ideas as to why he might have replaced his father in the military? I'm not sure that knowing why would help me discover his father's name, but it might help narrow it down. > >Thanks! >Caroline > > > >==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== >Problems Subscribing or Unsubscribing ? Contact: >G. Lee Hearl List Adm. at: glh@naxs.com<mailto:glh@naxs.com> >Hosted by Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com<http://www.rootsweb.com/> > >============================== >New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429<http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429> > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== Do not post Advertisements, Chain Letters, Virus Warnings etc. to this list. If in doubt, Contact: G. Lee Hearl, Adm. at: glh@naxs.com<mailto:glh@naxs.com> Hosted by Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com<http://www.rootsweb.com/> ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx>

Caroline: In our wars up to and including the Civil War it was permissible for a man who for any reason did not wish to join up to hire a substitute. So it sounds like pop didn't want to go and son took his place. I would reject your reasons 1 & 2. In those cases Pop would have been exempted anyway. 3 is possible. 4 may be possible, but doesn't sit well with me. If Pop opposed the war, he would likely have opposed it for his son, too. Lacking further evidence, it sounds like son filled in for Pop. End of story. Myron E. Williams Crossville, TN Caroline McCall wrote: >Hi... > >My g-g-g-g-grandfather served in the Rev. War - Virginia Militia - Captain Throgmorton's Company (under Colonel Page) and later in Dixon's Light Horse Troops. On his pension application, he stated that he served in place of his father - at the age of 18 or 19. > >I don't know why he served in his father's place; he didn't state that on his application. Neither did he state his father's name. I'm wondering why an 18-year-old would serve in place of his father. Though I haven't found any information to lead me to a conclusion, I have thought of several possible reasons: > >1)his father might have been ill or injured and couldn't serve. If so, I've wondered if his father was in the military, received an injury that prevented him from serving but felt so strongly about the war that he sent his son (who was probably not his oldest son - from some other records I have found). > >2) his father might have been too old to serve. > >3) his father might have needed to stay home either to support his family or keep a business going. > >4) his father could have been against the war but was expected to serve so he sent a replacement. > >Do these sound like valid reasons, and does anyone have any other ideas as to why he might have replaced his father in the military? I'm not sure that knowing why would help me discover his father's name, but it might help narrow it down. > >Thanks! >Caroline > > > >==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== >Problems Subscribing or Unsubscribing ? Contact: >G. Lee Hearl List Adm. at: glh@naxs.com >Hosted by Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com > >============================== >New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > >

I had an ancestor who did not go, sent his brother, and the latter died in VA, as did another brother. Genealogy without documentation is nothing. Paul Drake JD Genealogist & Author <www.DrakesBooks.com> ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 784 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!

Does anyone have Vol 6, 1968, the Magazine of Va. Genealogy? I'm looking for a copy of the article, "Nansemond, Births from South Quay Baptist Church, 1775-1827." Originals are no longer available. Will gladly pay for same. Thank you. Doris

Greetings All! The Surry County Historical Society's web site has been updated. Our December Newsletter has been posted and we have some "new" old pictures of Surry buildings from the collection of Bo Bohannan. We publish Surry history in our newsletter, and it's information you won't find anywhere else. Come and take a look. Eve S. Gregory, Web Mistress Surry County, Virginia, Historical Society and Museums, Inc. http://www.rootsweb.com/~vaschsm/ Surry County VaGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~vasurry/ Sussex County VaGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~vasussex/

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Hello, Ellie, Marie Hersent Maupin was my 7th great grandmother. I have some info about her if you need it. Patty in Colorado ----- Original Message ----- From: <EllieSS@aol.com> To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 9:00 AM Subject: Re: VA-SOUTHSIDE-D Digest V06 #8 > > In a message dated 1/16/2006 8:00:59 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, > VA-SOUTHSIDE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > Do you show any Fenns, Thorpes or Claibornes who were > buried there? The Claibornes and Fenns were my ancestors. I should > appreciate the kindness of your reply. > > > I don't have a list. I was looking for my immigrant grandmother, Maria > (Hersent) Maupin who is believed buried in the Bruton Parish Cemetery. > > I wish you well in your quest. If you ever find such a list, I'd appreciate > hearing from you or anyone who has such a document. > > Thanks, > Ellie >