My thanks to Paul and Craig for the clarification of "poles". Betty Duffer

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Will the lady who asked me about Ohio law marriage law in the 19th Century please contact me off-list. I have accidentally deleted your email address and identity. Thanks. Paul Genealogy without documentation is nothing. Paul Drake JD Genealogist & Author <www.DrakesBooks.com> ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1106 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!

I probably should have added that the description you have in that document is called one of "courses and distances", while a description that might reveal such as "...from a stone in a creek bank along a line of marked trees to the Meeting House road...." was and would yet be known as a description by "metes and bounds". We have used the former methods from the 18th Century down to even now, and the latter for many centuries before that. Genealogy without documentation is nothing. Paul Drake JD Genealogist & Author <www.DrakesBooks.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Drake To: jbduffer ; VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] colonial land grant language Means that the line runs south along someone's line, but simultaneously 20 degrees east from south. On a clock laid over the map that would be top to bottom from approximately 11:00 to 5:00 A "pole" is the same as a "rod", and if squared is also equal to a "perch" and equals 5.5 yards or 16.5 feet. Genealogy without documentation is nothing. Paul Drake JD Genealogist & Author <www.DrakesBooks.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: jbduffer To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 3:55 PM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] colonial land grant language I have been transcribing a land grant dated 1748. Of course, I am reading from a copy, but there are some terms that I do not understand. Any help would be appreciated. In measuring the boundries of the land "then along his line south twenty degrees east two hundred and thirty eight poles". In our survey language today, what would this mean? Similar measurements are used for the entire property. Thanks for any clarification. Betty Duffer ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== Problems Subscribing or Unsubscribing ? Contact: G. Lee Hearl List Adm. at: glh@naxs.com Hosted by Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/253 - Release Date: 2/7/2006 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1102 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!

Means that the line runs south along someone's line, but simultaneously 20 degrees east from south. On a clock laid over the map that would be top to bottom from approximately 11:00 to 5:00 A "pole" is the same as a "rod", and if squared is also equal to a "perch" and equals 5.5 yards or 16.5 feet. Genealogy without documentation is nothing. Paul Drake JD Genealogist & Author <www.DrakesBooks.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: jbduffer To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 3:55 PM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] colonial land grant language I have been transcribing a land grant dated 1748. Of course, I am reading from a copy, but there are some terms that I do not understand. Any help would be appreciated. In measuring the boundries of the land "then along his line south twenty degrees east two hundred and thirty eight poles". In our survey language today, what would this mean? Similar measurements are used for the entire property. Thanks for any clarification. Betty Duffer ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== Problems Subscribing or Unsubscribing ? Contact: G. Lee Hearl List Adm. at: glh@naxs.com Hosted by Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/253 - Release Date: 2/7/2006 ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1102 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!

I have been transcribing a land grant dated 1748. Of course, I am reading from a copy, but there are some terms that I do not understand. Any help would be appreciated. In measuring the boundries of the land "then along his line south twenty degrees east two hundred and thirty eight poles". In our survey language today, what would this mean? Similar measurements are used for the entire property. Thanks for any clarification. Betty Duffer

In the discussion of "artificially incestuous" marriages, all might remember that from the time of the divorce of his sister-in-law, Catherine of Aragon, by Henry VIII, the law was quite strict, in VA particularly (not GA). A person could not marry a sister- or brother-in-law (or other kin within that range of affinity - uncles, nieces, etc.). Still, though the Baptists and Presbyterians were said to widely adhere to that common law rule, some communities, especially on the western frontier, often ignored the prohibitions. Those regions did so, in part, because at the edge of civilization there was a need by widows and widowers to have a helpmate, as well as assistance in rearing kids. Then too, there was a scarcity of eligible brides (and grooms also, at times). The view/belief that such marriages were incestuous and the ban against such should be reaffirmed by the Legislature led to the Acts of 1792. Those acts made such marriages crimes. Still, the law was but seldom enforced, even though confirmed by that legislature several times. Finally, in 1848 - 56 years after making such marriages criminal - the act was repealed. There is a rather complete discussion of that and associated problems of divorce in Buckley, etc., "The Great Catastrophe Of My Life; Divorce in the Old Dominion" (U.N.Car. Press, Chapel Hill & London, 2002), pp. 110 ff. ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1097 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!

To All: Some lists are experiencing problems with bounced mail. First, due to a change of servers, AOL users were blocked because AOL considered list mail as Spam. They got most of that solved. Now we are experiencing bounces due SpamCop use by some ISPs or their customers. Rootsweb has very little control over this situation. Those using SpamCop need to be sure their computers and their ISPs accept list mail in order to receive messages. List Adm. G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va.

I am neither able to post or to receive messages to several Lists and cannot find the problem. I am subbed to Surry, Sussex, Brunswick, Prince George and Stafford that I've tried sending a message to no avail. There are a number of others that I know are not coming through. Could anyone suggest what the trouble might be? Any help appreciated, Sarah Withers Keesee lydiap@salisbury.net

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How do you sign up for the free newsletter? thanks, Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hdanw@aol.com> To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 11:01 PM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Using Resources Other than Computer Databases > Dear Searchers, > > One of the recent Ancestry Daily News letters had this article from a > professional genealogist. > > Please remove the punctuation at the beginning and the end before cutting > and pasting into your search box [or whatever it is called] > > (_http://www.ancestry.com/rd/prodredir.asp?sourceid=20623&key=A1090706_ > (http://www.ancestry.com/rd/prodredir.asp?sourceid=20623&key=A1090706) ) > > This is an article by Paula Stuart-Warren, a professional genealogist who > lectures a good deal. She reminds us that NOT everything we seek is on > the > computer and she still uses *old-fashioned* methods, like interviews, > letters, > writing to relatives and courthouses. > > (In fact, when I was searching last week a certain digitized census for a > small county in Texas, I could not find in the index of that huge > database tje > surnames of some of my ancestors, who greatly populated this county. So, > having long ago searched the census the old-fashioned way by reading the > microfilmed census, I proceeded to seek the page [the online census] on > which these > folks with common surnames were most likely appear. Yes, they were on > the > census--but the index was incomplete. Someone had some months ago told > me > that the indexing of many of these large genealogical databases had been > outsourced--probably in a country where workers get about 25 cents an > hour. My > informant told me the error rate was huge.) > > My grandparents and great-grandparents spent their entire lives in rural > areas, areas not likely to show up on most computer databases, so this > means > using *old-fashioned* ways in genealogy to detect their activities and > migrations and other events in their busy but not notable lives. I have > to read > mostly the censuses and the county records, not many of them digitized for > the > rural areas where my people resided and spent most of their lives. > > By the way, a subscription to this daily newsletter is FREE. I enjoy > reading what professionals have to say about this intriguing hobby--which > causes > great clutter in my computer & genealogy room!!! > > Happy hunting! > > E.W.Wallace > > > > > > > > > > Five days a week there is an article by a professional genealogist, many > of > them worth printing and putting in your HOW TO notebook. > > This newlsetter is free to subscribers. I do not (yet) subscribe to > Ancestry.com but I have purchased many of their books in the past. > > E.W.Wallace > > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb > Do Not Flame other Members on List. > If you have problems or concerns with list posts, contact the List > Administrator. glh@naxs.com > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Dear Searchers, One of the recent Ancestry Daily News letters had this article from a professional genealogist. Please remove the punctuation at the beginning and the end before cutting and pasting into your search box [or whatever it is called] (_http://www.ancestry.com/rd/prodredir.asp?sourceid=20623&key=A1090706_ (http://www.ancestry.com/rd/prodredir.asp?sourceid=20623&key=A1090706) ) This is an article by Paula Stuart-Warren, a professional genealogist who lectures a good deal. She reminds us that NOT everything we seek is on the computer and she still uses *old-fashioned* methods, like interviews, letters, writing to relatives and courthouses. (In fact, when I was searching last week a certain digitized census for a small county in Texas, I could not find in the index of that huge database tje surnames of some of my ancestors, who greatly populated this county. So, having long ago searched the census the old-fashioned way by reading the microfilmed census, I proceeded to seek the page [the online census] on which these folks with common surnames were most likely appear. Yes, they were on the census--but the index was incomplete. Someone had some months ago told me that the indexing of many of these large genealogical databases had been outsourced--probably in a country where workers get about 25 cents an hour. My informant told me the error rate was huge.) My grandparents and great-grandparents spent their entire lives in rural areas, areas not likely to show up on most computer databases, so this means using *old-fashioned* ways in genealogy to detect their activities and migrations and other events in their busy but not notable lives. I have to read mostly the censuses and the county records, not many of them digitized for the rural areas where my people resided and spent most of their lives. By the way, a subscription to this daily newsletter is FREE. I enjoy reading what professionals have to say about this intriguing hobby--which causes great clutter in my computer & genealogy room!!! Happy hunting! E.W.Wallace Five days a week there is an article by a professional genealogist, many of them worth printing and putting in your HOW TO notebook. This newlsetter is free to subscribers. I do not (yet) subscribe to Ancestry.com but I have purchased many of their books in the past. E.W.Wallace

TO Barb: Thanks, and with the exception that I believe the first stop after censuses is in the records of the counties in which an ancestor lived, I agree completely. From: Excalibur131 To: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Errors on pay sties Hi Paul, I'm wondering (maybe others are too), do you subscribe to any pay-for-info site? .... Libraries don't advertise what they don't have; universities don't talk about what they don't offer; book stores don't mention what they don't have in stock or can't get. What reason would a pay site have to be any different? I don't think "revealing," as if it were some dark secret, is a burden the pay-for-info sites should be saddled with. ... Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Errors on pay sites I think your questions are fair ones. I guess we will have to agree to disagree. In my view how genealogy should be presented is present and apparent in many well written abstracts, transcriptions and printed histories. Perhaps the example most familiar to all of such presentations may be found in Crozier's monumental "VA Wills and Administrations". By reading the "Introduction" to that work, the reader, newbie or otherwise, finds named the many sources and records dates that are NOT present, thus supplying the reader with information of what he must seek elsewhere. My 30 years in business clearly revealed to me, as it has for myriad business people, that by saving a customer valuable time and directing him/her elsewhere for what we did NOT supply, he became most appreciative and came back to our offerings when those met his needs. Do I suggest that the pay-for-genealogy sites enumerate what is not there? Of course not; that would be as impossible as it would be silly. Do I suggest that folks should not soon after beginning examine censuses? Again, not by any stretch! What I do heartily recommend is that the subscribers to such services, in order that they realize the magnitude of the efforts that may/must be undertaken, be told, even if it be with only one paragraph, that excluded from that single source are millions of records; millions of deed and mortgage records, millions of courts' orders, entries and minutes, tens of thousands of Loose Papers, marriage records, schools and funeral directors' records, sextons' lists, sheriffs', auditors' and tax lists, cemeteries lists, maps, family records and on and on and on, all of which must be remembered when the reader finishes with what those info merchants have available. It should be no secret for folks new to this hobby that while those sites do often strive mightily to add daily to their offerings, they have mountains of info yet to climb. In my classes in beginning genealogical research, time after time I have had students tell me that they had searched "just everywhere" on the internet, and had not found some certain ancestor, and therefore "he is really lost and can't be found". I need not tell you or any other experienced researcher that such thoughts could only have arisen from representations that this or that site had millions of people named (it has been written that more than 900 million people have lived on our land alone since Jamestown), and that such and such a site was the biggest and best available. Do I subscribe to any pay for sites? Yep, numerous newsletters from my "where" counties; several states societies, many libraries and archives, especially New England, VA and NC, and almost enough other information sources to require a second mailman. Again, if we must disagree, I am sorry, but I remain firm in my view that we all - including those profiting from genealogy - have a duty to help all others find whatever new and different sources there may be that are over and above what is being sold. It is for the above reasons that I and many others, including even such learned men as Brent Tarter, freely help other folks and lead them to WHEREVER they should next go. I have yet to see anyone on any staff of any pay-for site come online and help with individual problems. Whatever. Genealogy without documentation is nothing. Paul Drake JD Genealogist & Author <www.DrakesBooks.com> ----- Original Message ----- ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1027 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!

Genealogy without documentation is nothing. Paul Drake JD Genealogist & Author <www.DrakesBooks.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Drake Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Errors on pay sites I apologize; I was being called to dinner and did not adequately proof the last note I sent. Allow me to try again: My comments were intended to bring those who are relatively new to research to realize that there are inaccuracies, and sometimes there are inaccuracies compounding inaccuracies. Such are unavoidable, pay or not pay sites, just as errors were being made two centuries ago when the original entries were posted or transcribed. That said, I still have a measure of resentment that most of the pay sites have yet to reveal to the same newbies that, in fact, VERY few of the available records are as of yet available on any website. The search methods we must employ as researchers have not changed one iota; the approaches to sources remain the same. Dead ends are still solved, if at all, through good old fashioned thorough research with the records that have been found WHERE your ancestors were born, lived, worked, went to church, died and were buried. To the extremely limited extent that such records as of yet appear on the pay-for-info sites, I say "fine." To the much larger extent that those are not yet available with this new tool, I say, use the methods upon which we have relied and have used for scores, if not hundreds, of years. Genealogy without documentation is nothing. Paul Drake JD Genealogist & Author <www.DrakesBooks.com> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1027 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1027 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1027 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!

In case you had not heard, there are a couple of Feb. "sorta' free" sites at Ancestry.com. This URL seems to work: http://www.researchguides.net/free.htm Genealogy without documentation is nothing. Paul Drake JD Genealogist & Author <www.DrakesBooks.com> ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1015 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!

You are very welcome, Kathe! I am so glad the Castle Garden info helped you and the other kind people who have written me. Most people are unfamilar with Castle Garden although tens of thousands of immigrants passed through there. If you belong to other lists it might be a good thing to pass along. Kathy

In a message dated 2/2/2006 2:29:51 PM Central Standard Time, drryan@bellsouth.net writes: > To those with interest in this article, which I found thru the Va. > Genealogical Society on Ancestry (the first 35 or so volumes are online - > http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=6131&path=Volume+I), the following > are the names of the parents listed. Doris, Thank you so much for the information that Ancestry has those 35 Volumes online. I subscribe to ancestry, but mosts of the "family" surname based studies online they have aren't covered by my subscription, but this was. For those interested, the overall URL, with both Search and Browse links is here: http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=6131&path= Best Regards, Janet Hunter

To those with interest in this article, which I found thru the Va. Genealogical Society on Ancestry (the first 35 or so volumes are online - http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=6131&path=Volume+I), the following are the names of the parents listed. There are only 2 pages. Solomon King; Jacob Dardin; Elisha Dardin; Cutchins Council; John Bowers; Uriah Rawls; Hardy Cobb; Holland Darden; William Lawrence; John McCabe; John Carr; Jacob Daughterey; Jacob Daughtrey; Elisha Dardin; Holland Dardin; John Lee; Asa Beel. Children's names and date of birth are given, if anyone wants a look-up on any of the above. Doris

This may be of interest to some Southsiders, as colonial Virginians kept moving, or the counties kept dividing. E.W.Wallace Dear Listers, There seems to be some interest in an early Harlow family. Because a Harlow family was a neighbor of one of the collaterals of my Williams family--one elusive Nathaniel Williams--I have collected disjointed notes about one such person. Perhaps these notes will help further your research. Do me--and other genealogists coming after you are gone--a great big favor. Where I have cited the source, will you please do likewise. Any good research (and I stress good) should be able to be replicated by others. Don't know what replicated means? Well, look it up--dictionary.com or some such dictionary.. Some of the best advice I ever got from a lecturer--if you are researching Virginia, search ALL the counties. And I might say, that seems to apply to North Carolina also. I think a lot of us forget that counties have genealogies, also. I use the online Family History Library Catalog (_www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org/) ) and do a PLACE search to determine when a county was formed, and what was the parent county. If you are still NOT finding your persons, look in the surrounding counties--and States!!! People are where you find them. Happy hunting! Note that some of my notes are incomplete. Family duties frequently interfere with my research. E.W.Wallace 1998 WILLIAM HARLOW [of St. Paul's Par., Hanover Co.?] Apparently he was later of either Louisa Co. or Albemarle Co., or perhaps living on the county line. He was a neighbor of Nathaniel Williams and of William Graves. Nathaniel Williams I, son of John Williams I (d. intestate in Hanover Co., VA ca 1735), apparently lived--or owned land-- on a fork of Beaverdam Creek, Louisa Co. By tracing the surname Harlow, we may be able to properly identify "Which Nathaniel Williams?" We can identify Nathaniel Williams as long as there was another Williams family member nearby--such as his father, John Williams I, who died in Hanover Co. ca 1735, or his brothers Daniel, also early of Hanover Co., and Joseph, also early of Hanover Co.. "Early" is used as meaning ca 1733-1735. Brother Daniel Williams, who died in 1759 in Granville Co., North Carolina, was in early Louisa Co., formed from Hanover Co., and other Virginia counties--Halifax and Lunenburg Co. Brother Joseph Williams was in colonial Lunenburg Co.where he was a county official. No good identifying record of Nathaniel Williams has been found, although a Nathaniel Williams appears from time to time in Lunenburg Co. records but more accurately, it seems, in the land patents of Louisa-Albemarle Co. area along "Machunk/Mychump" Creek. We deduce Harlow's sons were Joel Harlow and William Harlow Junr. and possibly John Martin Harlow. In Louisa Co. ca 1742: John Harlow, Thomas Harlow, Ann Harlow [incompletely copied deed in Louisa Co. DB A] Later, John Graves, probably related to Williams Graves (qv), sold property in Louisa Co. to William Harlow: DB A-414 29 Nov 1750 John Graves of King George Co. to William Harlow of Louisa Co. 56 pds. currt. money. 400 acres; granted by patent on both sides of Beaver Dam fork of Mechum's Creek on the side of a hill. /s/ John Graves Senr. Wit: John Harlow, John Mooney, Wm. (W) Harlow Junr., John Graves Junr., Jams. Massie. 26 Feb 1750 proved by oaths of John Harlow, John Mooney and William Harlow. (Rosalie Edith Davis, LOUISA COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEED BOOK A & B [Bellevue, WA: 1979] p. 62) In 1757, John Harlow sold land "along the main Beaverdam" to John Roberson. DB B-187-188 22 Apr 1757 John Harlow of Fredericksville Par., Louisa Co., for 10 pds currt. money to John Roberson, 50 acres in sd. Parish on south side of Beaver Creek ... Roberson's line ... along the main Beaverdam. /s/ John Harlow Wit: Wm. Harlow, John Forsie Jnr. 24 May 1757 acknowledged by John Harlow. A subsequent deed, Louisa Co. DB B-188-189 dated 27 Apr 1757 by Roberson, executed a few days later than the above deed, verifies that he is selling 200 acres of land which he had previously purchased from both William Harlow and John Harlow. The purchaser is John Forsie Junr. "of Hanover Co., St. Paul 's Par." The deed mentions "on main Beaverdam Creek on north side," and lines of Williams Graves and John Harlow, but not of Nathaniel Williams. Much later, in 1778, reference was still being made in a deed to the lines of Nathaniel Williams and William Harlow's corner and to Graves line, near Beaver Dam Fork of Great Creek, Louisa Co. Louisa Co. DB E-301-302 12 Oct 1778 John Brown Senr. of Orange Co. & Elizabeth his wife to John Bourn [sic] of Louisa Co.; 85 pds.; 400 a. on the Beaver Dam Fork of Great Cr... Nathaniel Williams & William Harlows corner...branch of Beaver Dam fok of Great Cr...Graves line...Nathaniel Williams corner in sd. Graves line. John (+) Brown Elizabeth (+) Brown Wit: Zach. Shackelford, 'Thomas Fleeman, James Hogan 12 Oct 1778 ack by sd. Elizabeth. (Rosalie Edith Davis, LOUISA COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEED BOOKS E & F, 1774-1790 [Manchester, MO: 1983] p. 35) Later Records of Harlow Family Members ? In Albemarle Co. county Deed Bks 1764-1768, we find Nathaniel Harlow of Fredericksville Parish; William Harlow with daughter Elizabeth Harlow; William Harlow with daughter Tempe Harlow. In the latter deeds, W. Harlow is styled as "W Harlow, elder." Early Records In Henrico Co. where an early William Harlow resided, also resided William Womack (d. 1762) and his wife Mary (Henrico DB 1-455), presumably the parents of Mary Womack Williams, wife of John Williams II, later of Goochland Co. 1728 - Henrico Co., VA DB 2?-214 - 29 May 1728 Thomas Farrar of St. James Parish, Henrico Co., to William Harlow of St. Paul's Parish, Hanover Co., for 20 pds, 400 acres in St. James Parish, bounded by Chickahominy Swamp. Wit: Richard Dean, George Farrar, Thos. Osburn, Jr. /s/ Thomas Farrar. Recorded 1st Mon Oct 1728 (Adapted from Benjamin B. Weisiger III, HENRICO COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEEDS 1706-1737 [Richmond, VA: Privately published, 1985], p. 102) In 1741/42, Harlow patented land--400 acs. Henrico Co. on the Main Run of Chickahomony Sw., Beg. in his line (Pat Bk 20-230) We are unsure whether he is the same person. Prior to 1762, Harlow had owned property on Beaverdam Creek in Louisa Co., apparently in Fredericksville Parish, as may be deduced from this late deed which mentions Harlow in the chain of title: Louisa Co. DB C1/2?-p. 83-85: 22 Nov 1762 Henry Ford of Louisa Co., Fedricks [sic] Par. to John Forsie of Co. and Par. afsd; 30 pds curr. money; 100 a. in par. afsd...fork of Beaverdam Creek in sd. Forsies Old Line...down Creek to the fork...up the north fork; all that land given to me by William Harlow in that place in a Deed. Henry (+) Ford. Wit: Robert Richards, Samuel (X) Mackgehee, Solomon Pasley (Rosalie Edith Davis, LOUISA COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEED BOOKS C, C1/2, D & D 1/2, 1759-1774 [Manchester, MO: 1997], p. 44-45) John Forsie seemd to be purchasing more land on Beaverdam Fork of Machumps [variant spellings] Creek, Louisa Co. Perhaps by 1760, William Harlow was deceased. This 1760 deed appears in Louisa Co. Records: DB C 1/2?-pp. 25-27 30 Jan 1760 John Martin Harlow of Fredericksville Par., Albemarl [sic] Co. to John Forsie Junr. of Fredericksville Par., Louisa Co.; 45 pds. curr. money; 105 a. on Beaverdam fork of Machumps Creek; part of a tract pattern'd for John Graves...south fork on the south side of the Creek...sd. Forsies line. /s/ John Martin Harlow Wit: Henry (+) Ford, Richard Timberlake, William Timberlake. 22 April 1760 proved by the oaths of all the witnesses. (Ibid., p. 59) From other records, we know that Nathaniel Williams was also a neighbor of Michael Holland. The following indicates that Holland was also in Louisa Co. DB C1/2? - 63-64 21 Jul 1755. Thomas Robinson of Louisa Co. to William Harlow Senr. of same 13 pds-10s-4d & 500 lbs. of Tobacco; 400 a. on Sycamore Fork of Swamp Creek upon Morris's line at corner to Sneads line...along a New Dividing line; part of 800 a. bearing date of Michael Holland, Deceased, his patent. /s/ Thomas (T) Robinson Wit: Jno. Robinson, Joel Harlow, William Harlow Junr. (Ibid., p. 63) Brunswick Co. Records In 1745, Harlow had patented land in Brunswick Co., but there is no indication found to date that Nathaniel Williams was in Brunswick Co., at least not in that time period. In 1746, Harlow's lines are mentioned in the patent of William Lafoon, Henrico Co. "on a Br. of Farrars Br. in a Slash; adj Nicholas Cox now Simon Ligons, Evan Shoemaker & William Harlow." (Pat. Bk 25-142). Thomas Harlow Also in Pat Bk 21-425, 1743, is a patent for Thomas Harlow, Henrico Co. "on the S side of Chickahominy Sw., in Slashey Ground near a Slash, on the Co. Line dividing Henrico from Goochland Co. [N20 deg E]; in or near the Head of sd Sw. where the counties of Henrico, Goochland & Hanover join [this writer's italics] adj. William Harlow & Simon Ligon; 30 Jun 1743...." (CAVALIERS & PIONEERS, V. V., p. 58). The fact that three counties, Henrico, Goochland (from which Louisa was formed in 1742), and Hanover, joined in this general area in 1743 (and may still join today) gives a probable general location for the placement of land of Nathaniel Williams. There seems to be no patent for Nathaniel Williams, at least none which appear in six published volumes of CAVALIERS AND PIONEERS. Refer to biography of (--) Holland. Nathaniel Harlow A Nathaniel Harlow was in Albemarle Co. as indicated in the following abstracted deed: Albemarle Co. DB 4, pp. 440-441 23 Feb 1767 Nathaniel Harlow of Parish of Fredericksvill, Albemarle Co. to Saml. Boyd of Parish of St Anns, Albemarle Co. fro 30 pds Virginia money---parcell of land in Fredericksville Par, Co. of Albemarle, containing 82 acres .. So side of the North Fork of Jameses River... Beg. at Waddeys corner Gum... to Charles Goodmans ln... to Francis Grahams line to Samuel Rays line ... /s/ Nathanial Harlow wit: Alexander Mackey, Senr, Alexander Mackey Junr., Gray Haggard Nathanial Harlow & Suphan his wife.... acknowledged at Albemarle Co. Sept Court 1767 (Sam & Ruth Sparacio, DEED ABSTRACTS OF ALBEMARLE COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEED BOOK 4, 9 AUGUST 1764-12 AUGUST 1768 [McLean, VA: The Antient Press, 1989], p. 98) Immediately below this deed is one by William Harlow of the same parish in Albemarle Co. in which he givs his Loveing Daughte Elizabeth Harlow of the same parish... one sertan Negro girl named (Jude) she & her increase ... (Ibid., p. 98-99) Submitted by E.W.Wallace Comments: Rosalie Edith Davis's website: _http://www.angelfire.com/va3/redavis/_ (http://www.angelfire.com/va3/redavis/) Do a google.com search for Sparacios' books Antient Press [note old spelling] Some of Dr. Benjamin Weisiger's publications have been filmed by the Family History Library, Salt Lake city and most are on several microfiche. Microfiche can generally be ordered through your local Family History Center and cost 15 cents apiece. They generally stay at the FHC. The last time I was in Salt Lake City, I failed to note that any of Mrs. Davis's books were on the shelves there. A good many of the Sparacios' books are on the shelves at FHL. They have not been filmed, to my knowledge. They are still under copyright. However, Dr. Weisiger gave permission to the FHL to film his books.

Kathy: I cannot thank you enough for the Castle Garden website. I've suspected that my husband's grandparents may have come through a little too early for Ellis Island and I didn't realize that Castle Garden had this excellent database. Again, many thanks! Kathe Young Martin >VA-SOUTHSIDE-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 18 > >Today's Topics: > #1 Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] offtopic, ell ["Westview" > <westview@brookneal.net] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from VA-SOUTHSIDE-D, send a message to > VA-SOUTHSIDE-D-request@rootsweb.com >that contains in the body of the message the command > unsubscribe >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >______________________________X-Message: #1 >Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 13:39:54 -0500 >From: "Westview" <westview@brookneal.net> >To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <00a401c6275e$e71ec3c0$e7a2fe41@computer> >Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] offtopic, ellis island records >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >FYI, from 1830 until 1892 (when Ellis Island opened), Castle Garden in New >York was the first offiicial immigration center. The have an excellent, >searchable website http://www.castlegarden.org/ with immigration records >including ships manifests that span from 1820 to 1913. I have found several >relatives there and highly recommend it. > >kathy