Okay, you wonderful and marvelous researchers. Tell us where "The Graces" is/are to be found.... or for that matter... anything about this property will be helpful. Thanks, Ernie Perry Subj: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Will of Wm. Grigg, Pr. Geo. Co.--1726 Date: 05/23/2001 7:34:25 Central Daylight Time From: carolamorrison@earthlink.net (Carol A. Morrison) To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com For those interested in William Grigg, there is a copy of this Will on the Grigg web site (www.grigg-family.net). Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Kilby" <cashkilby@earthlink.net> To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 9:40 PM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Will of Wm. Grigg, Pr. Geo. Co.--1726 > Dear Southsiders: > > As most of know Pr. Geo. county records are pretty scarce. I found the > original will of one WILLIAM GRIGG filed in Amelia County chancery suits at > the LOV in Richmond (Amelia County Chancery Suits, Box 1, File 1738-001). > Hopefully, will be of some help to somebody on this list. > > The name of the suit is "Featherstone v. Griggs." the will is dated 22 April > 1726, proved 13 SEP 17XX. Names son ABNER (plantation I now live on, 100 > acres); son JESS GRIGG, remainder of land, 75 acres > Father WILLIAM GRIFF & mother Susannah GRIGG, land between my brother JAMES > and Thomas Hackney, for life, and afterwards to son LEWIS GRIGG, 80 acres. > > Son BURRELL GRIGG, land adj. William Westbrook, Edward Mitchell. > > To Thomas HACKNEY, land on north side of creek > To brother JAMES GRIGG, land > Daughter, Susannah, feather bed, dishes, a chest, trunk, dishes (she had m. > William Featherstone, plaintiff in this case). > > Craig Kilby > >

A gentleman named William Crenshaw of Nottoway county, VA, signed his will on 31 Jul 1794 (will book 1, p 118). In it he mentioned daughter Lucy and her husband Raleigh Carter and daughter Nancy and her husband William Stokes as well as sons Richard and Austin and daughter Jane. I would like to find firm ties between the three daughters, Lucy, Nancy, and Jane, and their spouses and descendants. What I need are solid sources beyond the above will and the bible quoted below. The Carter/Knight family bible (Lib. of VA #20499) mentions the marriage in 1795 of a Jane Crenshaw (born 1777) to a William Carter born 1771, son of Rawleigh, and lists many children. Unfortunately, the Lunenburg Will Book 6: 7 Feb 1778, states that "Jane dau of Wm. Crenshaw married John Irby"; so what about Wm. Carter? And all those children of Jane and William???? Though the Crenshaw will antedates the Jane/Carter marriage and listing Lucy in the will w/o a husband works against an enduring marriage to Irby (if any), it is hardly proof. And there are more problems. The Crenshaw will pretty well ties Lucy to Raleigh Carter and Nancy to Wm. Stokes---but those names are not all that special. I've written in the Mag. of VA Gen (August 2000) of the several William Stokes in Lunenburg about 1800 with the conclusion that I am descended from the particular William who died in 1843, but with only circumstantial evidence that he was the fellow who married Nancy Crenshaw. The bible lists the death of a Rawleigh (Raleigh) Carter on 3 July 1820, consistent with the purchase of his coffin on 4 Jul 1820 (Lunenburg will book 4, p 273) and his will was signed 11 May 1820 (Lunenburg will book 4, p 235). I take the listing of this death in the bible as indication that William Carter who married Lucy Crenshaw was the son of Raleigh. I call him as Raleigh, SR, with sons Raleigh JR and William (by first wife Sarah Sharpe) who died before him and are so described in the will of Raleigh SR. And Raleigh JR married Susannah, daughter of William Stokes and (probably) Nancy Crenshaw. Any new, solid information will be much appreciated. jim

For those interested in William Grigg, there is a copy of this Will on the Grigg web site (www.grigg-family.net). Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Kilby" <cashkilby@earthlink.net> To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 9:40 PM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Will of Wm. Grigg, Pr. Geo. Co.--1726 > Dear Southsiders: > > As most of know Pr. Geo. county records are pretty scarce. I found the > original will of one WILLIAM GRIGG filed in Amelia County chancery suits at > the LOV in Richmond (Amelia County Chancery Suits, Box 1, File 1738-001). > Hopefully, will be of some help to somebody on this list. > > The name of the suit is "Featherstone v. Griggs." the will is dated 22 April > 1726, proved 13 SEP 17XX. Names son ABNER (plantation I now live on, 100 > acres); son JESS GRIGG, remainder of land, 75 acres > Father WILLIAM GRIFF & mother Susannah GRIGG, land between my brother JAMES > and Thomas Hackney, for life, and afterwards to son LEWIS GRIGG, 80 acres. > > Son BURRELL GRIGG, land adj. William Westbrook, Edward Mitchell. > > To Thomas HACKNEY, land on north side of creek > To brother JAMES GRIGG, land > Daughter, Susannah, feather bed, dishes, a chest, trunk, dishes (she had m. > William Featherstone, plaintiff in this case). > > Craig Kilby > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > Hosted by Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

I misplaced a msg, I think from someone I think named Fast, who needed Lunenburg deed info. Name of people looking for might have been Tucker pls contact me - I have the info now. Nancy Wilson brockden@bellatlantic.com

See: http://www.tngenweb.org/tnland/squabble http://www.tngenweb.org/tnland/squabble/land.html

Is anyone on this list familiar with "Squabble State"; that disputed area of land between NC, VA and part of TN? If so are there particular records to look for or is it just a case of where records were ultimately filed? Also did this area affect Halifax Co and when? Thanks Richard

Dear Southsiders: As most of know Pr. Geo. county records are pretty scarce. I found the original will of one WILLIAM GRIGG filed in Amelia County chancery suits at the LOV in Richmond (Amelia County Chancery Suits, Box 1, File 1738-001). Hopefully, will be of some help to somebody on this list. The name of the suit is "Featherstone v. Griggs." the will is dated 22 April 1726, proved 13 SEP 17XX. Names son ABNER (plantation I now live on, 100 acres); son JESS GRIGG, remainder of land, 75 acres Father WILLIAM GRIFF & mother Susannah GRIGG, land between my brother JAMES and Thomas Hackney, for life, and afterwards to son LEWIS GRIGG, 80 acres. Son BURRELL GRIGG, land adj. William Westbrook, Edward Mitchell. To Thomas HACKNEY, land on north side of creek To brother JAMES GRIGG, land Daughter, Susannah, feather bed, dishes, a chest, trunk, dishes (she had m. William Featherstone, plaintiff in this case). Craig Kilby

Hi, I'm new to the list - looking for any help/information/descendants of the following:- WELLS/ RULAND/ DEVANY families - They lived in the PETERSBURG, DENDRON SURRY and SUFFOLK areas. The WELLS' lived in Petersburg prior to the Civil War - the family is - WILLIE WELLS m ? - 2 known children looking for others :- 1. ANNA WELLS b 1865 - d in 1930's m DR.WALTER LESLIE DEVANY lived in Dendron - They married about 1886 - 5 children 2. WILLIAM RICHARD WELLS m MARIAN RULAND - both died abt 1908 leaving 7 children:- a) Marian (Wells) Parker Joyner - b 1887 d ? b)Frances Wells Hart - b abt 1900 -1995 c)Anne Wells - b 1897 -1921 d)Elizabeth Wells - b ? d abt 1921 e)Caroline Wells Tingher - b ? in Suffolk f)Richard Wells - b 1902 -1968 g) Mary (Polly) Wells Devany b 1905 -1959 I am really stuck - most of what i have is through old letters and family history - I need to confirm these details - does anyone recognise or can help? - I would really like to know who my gggrandfather Willie Wells was married to and more about the Ruland family who are of Dutch descent. - Thank-you Monica Hertfordshire UK

I'm ba...ack! Was accidentally unsubscribed for a day. That was scary. Surnames: Younger, Bomar, Northern, Nance,Willingham, Claybrook,Watkins, Cosby, Carr, Doswell, Garland, Overton, Dabney, Carter, Cage, and many more. Locations: Amelia, Appomattox, Brunswick, Charlotte, Dinwiddie, Franklin, Greensville, Halifax, Henry, Isle of Wight, Lunenburg, Mecklenburg, Nottway, Patrick, Pittsylvania, Prince Edward, Prince George, Southampton, Surry and Sussex Counties. Also Old Rappahanock and Essex.

Looking for ANY clue/info on who may be the parents of Rosa HORN listed in the 1850 Patrick County, Va census, and where she may be from other than Va. She married Ewell Goins, s/o Arthur Goings on 11 Mar 1852, Patrick County, Va. 674 Rose Jacob m 27 VA Farmer Sarah f 26 NC Milly A. f 2 675 Horn Rosa f 21 VA Rufus W. m 1 VA 676 Pack Isham m 48 VA Farmer TIA Hank Mabe Researching Pack/Mabe mabeone@aol.com

http://www.ls.net/~newriver/va/vareg1.htm This is an excellent page. Regards, Margaret

Just got back and read my 171 messages, and had to put my 2 cents in on dowser' tool. My husband's aunt found the well that we are now using on our land. He said she once let him try it with her (when he was young), and it worked, but when he tried it alone it never did work. My mother also was good at finding water with a dowsers' stick, and a lot of her relatives back in Oklahoma also could work a dowsers' stick. It really saves a lot of money getting a well if the dowser does a good job. Kathy Awbrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Drake" <martee@citlink.net> To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 4:56 PM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] dowsers' tool > A "dowser" usually practices his/her trade (magic?) with a "dowsing > fork," a "divining rod," or a "water rod." Also in these mountains, > I have seen a number of other pendulum devices, usually made of > copper, leads and other metals, believed to have the same powers. > The trade ("art and mystery," or so it was said) has been practiced > for centuries down to and including now and was very well known to > every one of your ancestors. > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb Archives Digital Maps Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/maps/ > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

That Applewaite work was by Dr. Barry Hayes, as John relates.

While I have not seen this title, my Friend, John Size of the UK reveals that a portion of the VA Applewaight line is revealed in "The Descendants Of John Carter (c1574-1630), Vintner Of London, In South side Virginia, North Carolina and Georgia." Paul

Yep, Dixie.. I remember well.. and my mother (a native Missourian) was one GREAT "witcher"!!! :-) All I know is that it worked for us when we needed to find water to dig a well in southern Idaho!!! Made a believer out of me and my VERY skeptical Dad back then!! :-) Norma M > Had to tell you in Missouri the divining rod is or > > was, when I was young, called a witch and the process was called > witching. Then too, the person witching was called a "witcher." > > How about that? Dixie >

Paul's original posting for SEARCH seems to be the most probable. At least it is supported by "Websters Third International Dictionary," a reliable source for archaic meanings of words. Definition: SEARCE, also SEARCH, archaic, a fine sieve; STRAINER. A sieve is a basic item and could have been used in various occupations. A farmer could also have a sideline. You would have to do more research to pin down the type of sieve. It could also have been an ordinary kitchen sieve.

"G. Lee Hearl" wrote: > Paul & All: > I did not believe in "dowser devices" until I was working in the Newport > News Shipyard and they needed something to find some water pipes under a > concrete floor.. They bent two 1/4 in. dia. brazing rods about six inches > back from the end to 90 degrees.. The rods were about thirty inches long and > when held by the 6 in. "handles", the long rod pointing straight ahead, no > matter how tightley they were gripped, they would cross when passed over > water.. I tried it over a toilet bowl and now I'm a believer! Those things > really Worked! I wonder if they would work to find old graves, probably not > enough water tho'. > G. Lee Hearl > Authentic Appalachian Storyteller > Abingdon, Va. When I was a boy growing up, I was told that not all of the men in our family could do it (a la 7th son, etc. etc.). My father and I could...my other 4 brothers could not. I have never tried anything but pipes, although once over a septic tank, they swiveled from side to side. Maybe it is all in the believing.... Ed Hamblin Chesapeake, VA

I did not make the relationship of the author of the poem, "Family Tree", that I posted yesterday very clear. The author is Willis G. Corbitt. He is not related to me or my late uncle, Ralph Cowgill. My uncle was the "family historian" for many years until his death in 1980. He copied the poem in longhand on a 3 x 5 file card from the Beaver, OK newspaper while visiting a cousin in Beaver. I just received his papers last fall and discovered the card another other miscellaneous stuff in the files. Clay RESEARCHING: Cowgill, Epps, Claiborne, Harrison, Ashley, Hartsog, Peebles, Ritchie, Loar (Loehr), Fletcher, Powell

With our recent discussions, maybe some of you would enjoy subscribing to this - A Word A Day. Sarah told me about it and I love it. Regards, Margaret *************************************************************************************************** albedo (al-BEE-doh) noun 1. The fraction of light reflected from a body or surface. For example, earth's albedo is around 0.39. 2. The white, spongy inner lining of a citrus fruit rind. [From Late Latin albedo, whiteness, from Latin albus, white.] "The more powerful magnetic fields generated by the Sun during maximum activity are known to block many of the particles, which would theoretically lead to less cloud cover and less reflection, or a lower albedo." James Glanz, Scientists Find Way to Gauge Earth's Glow, The New York Times, Apr 21, 2001. "We don't need to tell you that oranges are full of vitamin C. But did you know that the white membrane under the skin, called the albedo, contains almost as much C as the flesh of the fruit itself? Myra Kornfeld, Giving Thanks, Vegetarian Times (Stamford, CT), Nov 2000. Some of the most interesting, unusual words describe everyday things. Who would have thought that this fleshy, spongy, white thing inside an orange had a word for itself... and that it would share it with astronomers? Or that it would have the same ancestor as the words for an egg part, a photo book, or smearing of a canvas? What all these words have in common is whiteness or albus, Latin for white. Albumen is egg white, an album is a book with white pages, and when we daub a sheet of paper, we de-albus it. Ah, the joy of words! Let's look at a few other words for odds and ends during this week. -Anu ............................................................................ Talking is like playing the harp; there is as much in laying the hand on the strings to stop their vibrations as in twanging them to bring out their music. -Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr., poet, novelist, essayist, and physician (1809-1894) Send your comments about words to anu@wordsmith.org. To subscribe or unsubscribe A.Word.A.Day, send a message to wsmith@wordsmith.org with "Subject:" line as "subscribe <Your Name>" or "unsubscribe". Archives, FAQ, gift subscription form, and more at: http://wordsmith.org/awad/ Pronunciation: http://wordsmith.org/words/albedo.wav http://wordsmith.org/words/albedo.ram

If memory serves Henry Applewaite came to Va. via Barbadoes, his wife and servants following at a later date. Henry was a Burgess. Court records confirm this and I have seen them in abstract books but didn't copy them. My Richard Cox, who brought the Quaker faith to current Wayne Co., NC, in the mid 1700's supposedly m. an Elizabeth Applewaite/Applewhite as his first wf., therefore I was interested in the family but have found no evidence thus far of a connection. Bebe