Hi Shelly. Most boys, unless they were orphaned or family members, were not bound out till they could nearly undertake their tutors' tasks in strength and size - usually 9 to 12; i.e., it depended much upon their size and the work they were to perform. So, the decisions and the requirements of any apprenticeship were mutually agreed upon and varied widely. Exactly as we would now; if you were about to take a youngster on as an apprentice, your purpose would be to have an assistant, and in return your obligation would be to teach him your trade and provide some "bed and board." Thus it was that (unless it was an intra-family matter) such as a blacksmith, sawyer, joiner, carpenter, cooper, or a wagon maker would be quite unlikely to take on a boy who was not big enough to handle the heavy tools usual in those callings. But note that such as a druggist, pewterer, silversmith, tobacconist, or house painter might well consider acceptable a smaller and younger boy who was particularly bright or (and) had exceptional manual dexterity. In short, it was said that the "tools decided the boy"; heavy tools, big boy, small instruments, little boy, etc. All that said, notice that in a small town where boys might be scarce, even a little fellow might well be taken on (as it was called) by a joiner, tanner, roper, dry goods merchant, bookkeeper, etc. I hope I have come close to answering, and Happy Memorial Day to all. Don't forget to mention "why" we have Memorial Day to your nieces, nephews, kids, gkids, etc. Paul :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelly Murphy" <ssmurphy5@hotmail.com> To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 11:33 AM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Apprenticeships/Bonding > I have a question for all you well-informed, helpful individuals out there. > > I have come across a record in a court order book for PE County for the Jan. > Court of 1770. It references bounding out an individual, who was an > apprentice, from St. Patrick's Parish. I do happen to know that this > particular family has many blacksmith's in it. Now whether this individual > was a blacksmith or not, I don't know. > > My question is how old might this individual, who was apparently already an > apprentice, be? Any rough ideas??? (Come on, Paul...I know you know this!) > > Thanks! Happy Memorial Day to all of you! > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > USGW Archives Pension Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pensions/ > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F1 1HB >

You wrote in part: I have a question for all you well-informed, helpful individuals out there. I have come across a record in a court order book for PE County for the Jan. Court of 1770.  It references bounding out an individual, who was an apprentice, from St. Patrick's Parish.  I do happen to know that this particular family has many blacksmith's in it.  Now whether this individual was a blacksmith or not, I don't know. My question is how old might this individual, who was apparently already an apprentice, be?  Any rough ideas???  (Come on, Paul...I know you know this!) Response: Yes, I'm sure Paul will know. For those who are interested in the whole subject of indentured servants (as most of us with Virginia roots well should be), W. Preston Haynie has compiled Records of Indentured Servants and of Certificates for Land Northumberland County, Virginia 1650-1795 [Bowie, MD: Heritage Books, Inc., 1996]. In his preface, he gives much background to the system of servitude. Over 300 pages of Haynie are devoted to excerpts of court records pertaining to indentures and certificates of land for transporting people. Apparently the early indentures were determined by the county court by the age of the *servant*. Always the court order refers to the Act [of the Assembly]. I venture to say that as the act changed, so did the period of servitude, but also on determination of the court. According to these abstracts, these court records of indenture went on to as late as 1795 and perhaps longer. Most poor orphans were indentured. As the streets of the cities of England were emptied, many children seem to have come to Virginia. The county court would judge the age of the servant and then determine the length of servitude. Sometimes the master would sell the services of the servant to another, says Haynie. Haynie reminds us, Court records in themselves would not necessarily reveal that a person had been a convict. Haynie quotes Richard Hofstadter (America at 1750): Indentured servants were put to arduous field labor by owners whose goal it was to get a maximum yield of labor in the four or five years contrcted for. The chief temptation to the master was to drive the servant beyond his powers in the effort to get as much as possible out of him during limited years of service. As one reads Haynie and other compilers of similar records, one learns that if a woman produced a bastard, her servitude was extended or in some cases she would receive lashes. Here's an excerpt from one dated * 21 July 1686: Whereas Christian Rich, servt to Mr Anthony Lynton, hath had a base child by a negroe in ye time of her service, it's ordered yt she serve her sd master for her said Default according to act & that ye sherr: take her into Custody and give her twenty stripes on her bare back untill ye blood come. OB [Order book] 1678-98, Part 1, 348. [On the same page of the Order Book is an entry stating that Christian Rich escaped before she received her punishment.]* As tobacco increased in value, of course, barrels [hogsheads] were needed to ship the tobacco. Coopers were needed. Blacksmiths and their apprentices were needed for all kinds of manufacture. So there was a need for skilled craftsmen, and those indentures/apprenticeships may have been different. Cordwainers made shoes, tailors (many apprenticeships for tailors) were needed to make clothing, etc. However, England controlled how much manufactury could be done in this country. This whole topic is a subject of many books, although the language in the title is sometimes couched so that one cannot tell the contents of the book. I believe Daniel Boorstein, formerly Librarian at the Library of Congress, has written such a book. However, there is nothing like reading the court order books (of any colony or state) themselves to learn the customs of the particular time. As an aside: In Pennsylvania, in the 1750s, my PA German was apprenticed to a sadler as a result of being an orphan; he chose the sadler himself, as he was over age 14. According to tradition, he ran away from the sadler in or around Berks Co., PA and joined with others in the New River Country (VA & NC), where he is said to have met Daniel Boone. Thereafter, until Boone went his own way, my ancestor was his sidekick, according to the Draper Mss. My ancestor seemed to settle down and acquire land in Kentucky, whereas Boone's land claims seemed to be null and void--or else, he just liked to keep wandering--to Missouri. Happy hunting! I hope you learn more about your apprentice. E.W.Wallace E.W.Wallace I believe each case is different.

Dear Yvonne and Steve You asked a question about how an 11-year old (lucky to know the age, aren't you?) could be a witness to a deed (indenture)? According to one of my favorite lecturers, Robert Young Clay, retired Archivist of Virginia State Library, lecturer, author, and topnotch genealogist, in Virginia, at least in Colonial times, a young person could be of almost any age to be a witness, provided he/she was deemed competent to understand what he/she (equal rights) was signing. As you may have noted, a witness frequently had to go before the court and give an oath that he/she had witnessed such a document. Considering that youngsters were expected to share the workload at home and that the life expectancy was so short, children were not coddled as they are today. Also, consider the sparseness of neighbors. Unlike New England, in the South, inhabitants were not clustered in villages. I note that one of my ancestors, an adult at the time, was frequently a witness to all kinds of documents. Reason: He operated an ordinary, and I deduce it was near the courthouse, and certainly near a major crossroads or ferry. Considering age: I attended one of the walk-around lectures at Colonial Williamsburg and the lecturer commented that Thomas Jefferson became president at age 32. One of the listeners was astounded at his youth. Then we discussed the mortality statistics of that time, and then the literacy rate. T. J. lived to be an old man, of course. Of course, if Mr. Clay is subcribing to this list, my apologies if I have misquoted you. E.W.Wallace

The following is from McAfee re the virus in circulation: W32/Badtrans@MM - Help Center DESCRIPTION - What virus is this? W32/Badtrans@MM is a Medium Risk mass-mailing worm that drops a remote access Trojan. The virus arrives via email in Microsoft Outlook and attempts to send itself by replying to unread email messages. The email may contain the text "Take a look to the attachment" in the message body and will contain an attachment that is 13,312 bytes in length and uses one of the following names: Card.pif docs.scr fun.pif hamster.ZIP.scr Humor.TXT.pif images.pif New_Napster_Site.DOC.scr news_doc.scr Me_nude.AVI.pif Pics.ZIP.scr README.TXT.pif s3msong.MP3.pif searchURL.scr SETUP.pif Sorry_about_yesterday.DOC.pif YOU_are_FAT!.TXT.pif PAYLOAD - What can this virus do? If the attachment is opened, the worm displays a message box entitled, "Install error" which reads, "File data corrupt: probably due to a bad data transmission or bad disk access." A copy is saved into the WINDOWS directory as INETD.EXE and an entry is entered into the WIN.INI file to run INETD.EXE at startup. KERN32.EXE (a backdoor Trojan), and HKSDLL.DLL (a valid keylogger DLL) are written to the WINDOWS SYSTEM directory, and a registry entry is created to load the Trojan upon system startup. HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ RunOnce\kernel32=kern32.exe Once running, the Trojan attempts to mail the victim's IP Address to the author. Once this information is obtained, the author can connect to the infected system via the Internet and steal personal information such as usernames, and passwords. In addition, the Trojan also contains a keylogger program which is capable of capturing other vital information such as credit card and bank account numbers and passwords.

I have a question for all you well-informed, helpful individuals out there. I have come across a record in a court order book for PE County for the Jan. Court of 1770. It references bounding out an individual, who was an apprentice, from St. Patrick's Parish. I do happen to know that this particular family has many blacksmith's in it. Now whether this individual was a blacksmith or not, I don't know. My question is how old might this individual, who was apparently already an apprentice, be? Any rough ideas??? (Come on, Paul...I know you know this!) Thanks! Happy Memorial Day to all of you! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

I have recently found two family Bibles: Bacon and Gregory. Both of these are my direct ancestors. There are many names in the Bibles that I don't recognize. Was wondering if you could take a look at the names and dates and see if any of them look familiar to any of you. Unfortunately, with Bibles, there aren't always counties and states. I'll enter the locations as I know them, but most I don't know. I do know that the Bacons and Gregorys primarily lived in Southside VA from the mid 1700s to the mid 1800s to include Dinwiddie, Nottoway, Charlotte, Lunenburg and Mecklenburg, Virginia, as well as Granville, NC. The children who were born in NC, had all moved back to Lunenburg, Charlotte and Nottoway by the times they got married. I believe they were born in NC but were raised, married and died in VA. Here's what I've got: Gregory Bible: Herbert Gregory born:3 Apr 1777, Effington, Dinwiddie County died: 2 Oct 1821 married: 16 June 1803 Lucy Osborne THWEAT born: ? died: 17 Sep 1824 Children of Herbert GREGORY and Mary Osborne THWEAT: William Osborne GREGORY born: 17 Mar 1804, "Elm Wood", Granville Co., NC died:? married: 12 Oct 1826 Mary Baskerville ALEXANDER born:?, Mecklenburg, VA died:? Dr. James Herbert GREGORY born: 1 Jan 1806, NC died: July 1847 married: 11 Nov 1830 Eliza Glenn Binford BACON born: 9 Apr 1815, Nottoway Co., VA died: after 1850 ---Children of Dr. James Herbert GREGORY and Eliza Glenn Binford BACON: James H. GREGORY born: 2 Aug 1831 died: Sep 1832 George Herbert GREGORY born: 3 Feb 1833 died: 1835 Mattie S. GREGORY born: 2 Dec 1834 died: ? Dr. James William GREGORY born: 13 Apr 1836, Charlotte Co., VA died: 7 May 1908, Charleston, Kanwha Co., WV married: 11 Jan 1860, Union, Monroe Co., (W)VA Amanda M. JONES born: Dec 1840, Monroe Co., (W)VA died: aft 1930, St. Albans, Kanawha Co., WV Martha G. GREGORY born: 2 Dec 1837 died: ? married: 1 Sep 1858 Abner Henry ROBERTSON born/died:? Mary "Mollie" Rowland GREGORY born: 29 May 1840 died: ? Charles GREGORY born: 9 Feb 1843 died: ? John Henry GREGORY born: 30 Jul 1845 died: ? Francis Roger GREGORY born: 26 Oct 1807, "Hill Airy", Granville, NC died: 23 Jun 1854 married: 24 May 1832 Nancy ALEXANDER Martha Thweat GREGORY born: 7 Dec 1809 died: 3/7 Jan 1828 married: 19/29 Jun 1825/26 James Edward Parks BACON born: 12 May 1809, Nottoway Co., VA died: 14/15 Mar 1846 Herbert GREGORY born: 8 Feb 1812 died: 14 Jul 1838 married: ? Richard Henry GREGORY born: 5 Jan 1814, "Wigwam," Granville, NC died: 9 Nov 1886 married: 27 Jun 1839 Mary E.A. HATCHETT Lucy Frances GREGORY born: 1 May 1817 died: 17 Aug 1852 married: ? Col. Thomas Jefferson GREGORY born: 9 Jan 1819, "Crystal Hill," Granville, NC died: ? married:? Lucie Bullock born & died: ? Sally Mary GREGORY born: 3 Apr 1821 died:? married: 15 Jan 1845 Col. William L. TAYLOR born:?, Granville, NC died:? Bacon Bible: Col. Tyree Glenn BACON born: 19 Dec 1772 died: 31 Jun 1830, Nottoway Co., VA married: 6 Jun 1797 Mary Lamkin WARD born: 12 May 1774 died: 19 Jul 1847, Nottoway Co., VA George Langston Griffin BACON born: 22 Mar 1793, Nottoway Co., VA [Note: This birth date seems wrong because Tyree and Mary BACON were married in 1797 and Mary was married to Rowland WARD from 1791 to 1782.] died: 26 Aug 1828 married: 24 Dec 1819 Elizabeth H. JONES born: ? died: 17 Aug 1836 ---Child of George Langston Griffin BACON and Elizabeth H. JONES: Mary L.P. BACON born/died: ? married: 25 May 1842 Irby FREEMAN (or maybe Freeman IRBY) born/died:? Peter Dawkins BACON born: 30 Mar 1800, Nottoway Co., VA died: 14 Apr 1800, Nottoway Co., VA Petronella Ann Craghead BACON born: 31 Mar 1802 died:? married: 29 Jun 1821 John MARSHALL born/died:? Mary Jane Catherine BACON born: 13 Apr 1804 died:? married 22 Mar 1832 John H. LEATH born/died:? James Edward Parks BACON born: 12 May 1809, Nottoway Co., VA died: 14/15 Mar 1846 married: 19/29 Jun 1825/26 Martha Thweat GREGORY born: 7 Dec 1809 died: 3/7 Jan 1828 Sarah "Sally" Lucinda Winfred BACON born: 9 Jul 1811 died:? married 16 Oct 1832 Phillip B. WHITE born/died:? ---Child of Phillip B. WHITE and Sarah "Sally" Lucinda Winfred BACON: Mary L. WHITE born: abt. 1833 died: 10 Apr 1856 Eliza Glenn Binford BACON born: 9 Apr 1815, Nottoway Co., VA died: after 1850 married: 11 Nov 1830 Dr. James Herbert GREGORY born: 1 Jan 1806, NC died: July 1847 First marriage of Mary LAMKIN: Rowland WARD, Sr. born: 25 Jul 1753 died: 4 Oct 1793/5 married: 24 Nov 1791 Mary LAMKIN born: 12 May 1774 died: 19 Jul 1847, Nottoway Co., VA ---Child of Rowland WARD, Sr. and Mary LAMKIN: Rowland WARD, Jr. born: 23 Dec 1793 [Note: This date doesn't sound right because Rowland Sr. died in 1782 and Mary Lamkin didn't marry Tyree BACON until 1797.] died: ? married: 24 Dec 1816 Margaret HARRIS born/died:? First marriage of Rowland WARD, Sr.: Rowland WARD, Sr. born: 25 Jul 1753 died: 4 Oct 1793/5 married: 10 Apr 1777 Sara UNKNOWN born: 13 Jun 1758 died: 15 Apr 1782 ---Children of Rowland WARD, Sr. and Sara UNKNOWN: Unknown WARD born: 17 Feb 1779 died:? Unknown WARD born: 7 Oct 1780 died:? Miscellaneous names: Peter LAMKIN born: ? died: 27 Jan 1797 married:? Winifred UNKNOWN born:? died: 31 Jan 1795 Griffin Lewis LAMKIN died: 21 Mar 1781 John LAMKIN died: Sep 1795 George LAMKIN died:? Sharp LAMKIN died: 3 Feb 1801 Col. Peter LAMKIN died: 5 Mar 1808 Petronella LAMKIN born: 17 May 1769 Jane LAMKIN born: 3 Ajpr 1778 -- Cara (Gregory) Showers Anchorage, Alaska cara@dcdesign.com

It's probably F.A.C.S. (Fellow of the American College of Surgeons). Bob Juch http://www.Juch.org -----Original Message----- From: BilleeS@aol.com [mailto:BilleeS@aol.com] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:04 AM To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Confederate Dr. Does anyone know what the initials P.A.C.S. after the name of a Surgeon mean? An 1892 inspection report of General Hospital 27 in Richmond stated the hospital was opened by Surgeon G.W. Briggs P.A.C.S. (a relative of mine) He went on to serve at Chancellorsville. Later the report stated that Surgeon G. S. west C.S.A. was in charge. ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== USGenWeb Archives Census Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/ ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Does anyone know what the initials P.A.C.S. after the name of a Surgeon mean? An 1892 inspection report of General Hospital 27 in Richmond stated the hospital was opened by Surgeon G.W. Briggs P.A.C.S. (a relative of mine) He went on to serve at Chancellorsville. Later the report stated that Surgeon G. S. west C.S.A. was in charge.

Ruby Pruitt and List Members, Ruby wrote asking > Also I have been trying (without success)to find the > records of High Street Methodist Church in Petersburg I recently had a question on a Methodist Church and this is the response I received > A place to try is the library at Randolph-Macon College. They are set > up to handle research questions such as this. They can check the book Hundred > Years of Methodism - I think this covers mainly Richmond churches. Ask them > about (name of church I was researching). Contact Nancy Newins at > nnewins@rmc.edu Nancy Newins was very helpful in finding information for me. Good Luck with your research Mildred

In a message dated 05/24/2001 9:50:00 PM Mountain Daylight Time, gronj@home.com writes: > Do not open it! I received an > attached .scr file the other day that I did not trust. It had a very short > note that simply said see attached file and it was in reference to the Edmon > JONES will note where I told you that it had been posted. I believe that it > was sent to me and not the list. I did not open it and deleted it. I was > curious, but did not have a very good feeling about it. > > The W32 BAD TRANS worm has been making its way through the lists. It works by sending itself out to any unanswered messages in a person's mail box, so if you've posted to a list, and someone on the list has that message unopened when he/she opens the attachment--you get the next email. I've gotten about four versions of it from one post on the VA-Harris list. Actually, I orginally thought it was this list, but on further thought decided it was Harris. There are a number of extensions--I got one that was .scr, but there's also a .doc extension for the same worm--it is particularly appealing to all of us, of course--just wave a document in our direction... The lists themselves refuse attachments, of course, so if a list is set so that mail is automatically returned to the list it won't affect individuals. Almost all of the versions say "Look to the attachment" as a message. I'm glad you didn't open it! I did--but there was no unanswered mail in my box--and I recognized almost immediately that I'd done a dumb thing and started frantically deleting--so apparently no lasting damage, though I wound up having to delete my mail box--lost a good many messages. So to all: NEVER OPEN AN ATTACHMENT---even if it says .doc and looks like it comes from a friendly fellow lister! Karen Dale

It showed up here, Ron; you have a problem. Thanks for telling us. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Jones" <gronj@home.com> To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 12:47 AM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Re: Possible virus > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Craig Kilby" <cashkilby@earthlink.net> > To: "Ron Jones" <gronj@home.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:23 PM > Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Marriages > > > > Ron, what is this attached file? There are so many viruses running around > I am afraid to open it until I hear from you? > > Craig & List, > > I have not sent any attached files, recently, to you or to the list. I have > not sent any messages this week re marriages. Do not open it! I received an > attached .scr file the other day that I did not trust. It had a very short > note that simply said see attached file and it was in reference to the Edmon > JONES will note where I told you that it had been posted. I believe that it > was sent to me and not the list. I did not open it and deleted it. I was > curious, but did not have a very good feeling about it. > > No virus has shown up on my computer, yet. If this message has a file > attached I may have a problem. Please let me know. > > Regards, Ron > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb Archives Digital Maps Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/maps/ > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Kilby" <cashkilby@earthlink.net> To: "Ron Jones" <gronj@home.com> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Marriages > Ron, what is this attached file? There are so many viruses running around I am afraid to open it until I hear from you? Craig & List, I have not sent any attached files, recently, to you or to the list. I have not sent any messages this week re marriages. Do not open it! I received an attached .scr file the other day that I did not trust. It had a very short note that simply said see attached file and it was in reference to the Edmon JONES will note where I told you that it had been posted. I believe that it was sent to me and not the list. I did not open it and deleted it. I was curious, but did not have a very good feeling about it. No virus has shown up on my computer, yet. If this message has a file attached I may have a problem. Please let me know. Regards, Ron

I have copies of a Land Indenture from Surry County Court in 1749 where Charles Binns, Gent, and wife Judith sell 333 acres of land in Southwark Parish to James Dering for 100 pounds current money. It is witnessed by Charles Binns Jr. According to many sources Charles Binns and wife Judith Eldridge has a son Charles Binns born in 1738. This son Charles Binns became the first county clerk for Loudoun County. Here's the question: Can a child aged 11 years sign as a witness to a land indenture? This is the way it appears from the information we have but we can't imagine an 11 year old child could legally do this. If not then this would cast doubt on the 1738 birth date, in our opinion. What are your opinions? Steve and Bunny -- Subscribe to BINNS-L surname email list: mailto:BINNS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe&body=subscribe American Binns Families and Individuals: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~ysbinns/americanb/index.htm 1790/1800 County Tax Lists of Virginia: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~ysbinns/vataxlists/index.htm

I presume when you say "indenture" you are saying that the verbiage contained is that of a deed for the transfer of land. If so, I know of NO American jurisdiction where a child of that age could have "signed" anything having to do with any land, nor can I imagine a legal scenario where any court would permit such a signature. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yvonne and Steve" <ysbinns@yspcbdesigns.com> To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 9:31 PM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Age to sign as a witness for Land Indenture > I have copies of a Land Indenture from Surry County Court in 1749 where > Charles Binns, Gent, and wife Judith sell 333 acres of land in Southwark > Parish to James Dering for 100 pounds current money. It is witnessed by > Charles Binns Jr. > > According to many sources Charles Binns and wife Judith Eldridge has a > son Charles Binns born in 1738. This son Charles Binns became the first > county clerk for Loudoun County. > > Here's the question: Can a child aged 11 years sign as a witness to a > land indenture? > > This is the way it appears from the information we have but we can't > imagine an 11 year old child could legally do this. If not then this > would cast doubt on the 1738 birth date, in our opinion. > > What are your opinions? > > Steve and Bunny > -- > Subscribe to BINNS-L surname email list: > mailto:BINNS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe&body=subscribe > > American Binns Families and Individuals: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~ysbinns/americanb/index.htm > > 1790/1800 County Tax Lists of Virginia: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~ysbinns/vataxlists/index.htm > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb Archives Census Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/ > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >

Wanted to say thanks to all that responded to my inquiry on APPLEWHITE- Donna

on 5/24/01 4:15 PM, Ruby Pruitt at rbpruitt@yahoo.com wrote: > In Virginia is there a particular year that the > parents of the bride/groom were listed on the marriage > applications? Yes--1853. Craig Kilby

List, here's a book I saw at the library that mention some names, you might want to check the library for this book; The Complete Book of Emmigrants 1661-1699 By; Peter Wilson Coldham May 17, 1671 The following apprenticed in Bristol; William Badger to John West, 4 years Nevis by Laurel(BR) >From England to America 19 July 21 August 1661-1699 The following apprenticedin Middlesex to serve Richard Batt of London, Merchant; John Cruse, Cooper aged 21, son of Thomas C. of Plympton, Devon 4 years Barbados; Jeffery Badger aged 29, 4 years Maryland; Richard Chapman, aged 30, 4 years Maryland; William Hanly, aged 28, 4 years Virginia; Robert Johnson, aged 30, 4 years Virginia(GLRO;MR/E/593) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

In Virginia is there a particular year that the parents of the bride/groom were listed on the marriage applications? Also I have been trying (without success)to find the records of High Street Methodist Church in Petersburg Va, I've called the District Office and they said they did not have records and this church was getting ready to shut down, then I talked to the minister of the church , he told me he had not been there long and did not know where records were.Does anyone know if these are at the State/Local library by chance? Thanks so much Ruby Badger Pruitt Researching;Badger,Hanks,Sage,Duvall __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

To Paul, Zou Feagin, Ed Hamblin and Karen Wood, A big Thank You for your responses to my stolen child story....I joined the Cape Fear Scots List and someone sent me the marriage record for William D. Griggs and Martha Dailey: 1822 in Rockingham County NC. Their adopted daughter(?) was born in 1828. She seems to be the oldest child in their family. How she would have gotten to the Rockingham/Pittsylvania area from perhaps the Port of Wilmington will be my next search. Can anyone tell me what kind of name Dailey is? Is it English, Irish or Scottish? Also, for Nita: What was the name of the family that owned the plantation Merry Oaks? All of my father's ancestors came from Brunswick Co. I am researching the names Branch, Newsom, Heartwell, Lucy, Huff, Goodrum, Parham, Hardaway in Brunswick. Janice Branch Fox

Could someone tell me the exact location in Brunswick County Va. of the old Merry Oaks Plantation Nita in NC