How about "strain pickle". As in making pickles and lifting the cucumbers/pickles from the brine. Margaret

Neither sound nor word appears in the 1755 or the 1802 Johnson Dictionary. Nor do I find such sounds in my 1815 German dictionary. If no one has an answer, tell us from where the note was written, or sent, or in what record it was found. A bickern is, of course, well known, however "...ern" could hardly appear as "...kle". I am interested in what you learn for my next revised dictionary and from what area the terms came. Can you scan it and send it to those of us who are interested? Thanks. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Sparks Starr" <lksstarr@mmcable.com> To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 10:19 AM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] What is the meaning of "bickle" ?? > Everyone, > I've a new word for you -- what is the meaning of > "stroun-bickle" or just plain "bickle"? I've searched > several dictionaries without success. It's found in circa > 1770s letter written in the southside VA area. Thanks > for any and all suggestions. Linda > Linda Sparks Starr > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

It's a "group"....some kind of an armed band of "motley" guys! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Sparks Starr" <lksstarr@mmcable.com> To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 12:36 PM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] 'bickle' in context > > It is purported to be found within a published genealogy -- > original copy of this letter is thought to be in the GA Dept of > Archives, in the papers of Allen Daniel Candler, author of _The > Candler Family_. However, I'm told the family has restricted > access to only other family members. > > The 1778 letter from Rev. Thomas Moorman to Mary Ann Lynch is > presented below, as abstracted by Allen Candler. > > "In 1754, quite a muck of folk left the upper James River > colony for a good country on the Yadkin River. Among the > motley gang, for some of them were skinners, was your cousin > of the second remove, Micajah Clark, and your first cousin, > Zack Moorman. After two years of very unprofitable living, > they returned to Virginia ... After two years more, these > braggart bucks got up a stroun-bickle and again moved to > North Carolina. Among the bickels were Mike Clark, Zack > Moorman, Zed and Thomas Candler and mayhap Henry Candler... > These Candlers were all related to our family by > intermarriage back in Ireland." > > "They (the Candlers) first came to North Carolina, but soon > moved to Virginia. These boys were all good surveyors, > and the first time I saw William Candler, the oldest boy, he > and Zed, some three years younger, were lining a royal > charter for the Anthonys, an Italian people of no mickle > good appearance. This was in 1753, and Zed Candler, who > afterward married our cousin, Ann Moorman, was a lad some 14 > years old. In 1756 I attended a great safety council held > at Lynch's Crossing to jower over the Stamp Act, and there I > met Zed Candler, who had returned and settled on a royal > grant for fighting Indians ... Zed Candler lived on Flat > Branch five miles from Lynch's Crossing (it is now > Lynchburg). His grant was for five thousand acres and was > called by him Kilkenny. He was from home all the time > fighting Indians and surveying and soon got another grant > fifty miles distant, in the Pittsylvania belt. Zed Candler > married Ann Moorman, and with thirty slaves, moved to his > new home which he called Callan." > > Thanks for all your efforts! Linda > Linda Sparks Starr > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb Archives Census Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/ > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Greetings All, It's good to see that folks who are primarily interested in genealogy are beginning to use research methods that archaeologists have found effective - platting old land boundary descriptions. There are computer programs that will do this, but they cannot magically create undescribed boundary lines. If you plat enough adjoining boundaries, however, you can fit them onto USGS quadrangles which show topography. This allows you to make maximum use of otherwise vague descriptions, such as _from the head of the ravine_, _over the swamp_, and so forth. Several years ago I published an article about this, including a conversion table for the old compass bearings and distance measurements. Recently I posted an updated version on VFAR's web site, URL below. For big jobs, such as platting whole counties, now being done by Dennis Hudgins, I'm told Deed Mapper is the program of choice. But for a few tracts, the pencil, scale, and protractor method is still the most efficient, and by far the least expensive! Good Hunting! -- Eve S. Gregory, Director Virginia Foundation for Archaeological Research, Inc. http://home.earthlink.net/~vfar1/ Visit my home page for history and genealogy links! http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~eve368g/ ------------------------------------------- Subject:[VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Re: land that traces back to nowhere From:"Frances Cullom Harper" <fharper@triad.rr.com> Date:Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:08:20 -0400 To:VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com <snip> > In working with these patents, I was also able to determine where a couple > of creeks were located that can't be found labeled on any map, not even the > 1870 map of Mecklenburg. On the 1870 map (section 8 > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vameckle/8sect.htm ), Eagles Nest Creek is the > creek east of Smith Creek with a fork at the head and a branch halfway down. > Robert Bowen, Drury Bowen, William Bowen, and George Vaughan owned land on > this creek. George Vaughan held another tract father south in the branches > of Taylor's Creek. The next creek east of Eagles Nest (the 1870 map cut it > off but you can find it if you go to Mapblast) was called Island Creek. John > Clack patented all the land between Eagles Nest and Island Creek north of > the branch in Eagles Nest and his line (originally Henry's line) which > stretched from the head of the branch SW to Island Creek. This was where > part of Robert Bowen's land and all of Edward Henry's land was located. East > of that was the land first granted to John Roberts and later repatented by > William Robertson. I don't know if William descended from John or if the > name was in fact Roberts of Robertson. Robert Bowen's 1768 patent (he'd held > the land since at least 1753) was on the west side of Eagles Nest with > William Dobyns' 1755 patent west of Bowen's. The Dobyns' land was sold to > John Harper. You'll see Harper's Road and Harper's Old Bridge on the 1870 > map, but the Harper land extended east beyond Smith Creek and adjoined the > Bowen land. > > If anyone is working on the early Vaughans, Maclins, and Wynns of Brunswick > Co, I have run across some records that might tie those families together > with a little more work. They're not my ancestors, but what I've found might > be helpful to anyone working with those families. You can find that info at > http://members.nbci.com/fcharper/vaughan.html > > Just out of curiosity - has anyone ever used any software for drawing up > tracts of land from deed/patent descriptions? I used a ruler and protractor > to try to draw it all to scale, but I found it really frustrating when the > descriptions included phrases like "down the creek as it meanders to the > beginning". How far was that? Where was that creek? Which way did it go? > It's not on any map. Oh, no! Not to a river where the line meanders down > that some indefinite distance too! How would software cope with something > like that? Can it use the estimated acres and the other surveyed lines to > mathematically estimate how long those vague meandering lines should be? I > had hoped to draw up these grants as graphics, but the graphics programs I > have don't seem to show angle measurements or the length of diagonal lines. > So I had to drop back to the old ruler and protractor method. > [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Lunenburg County.eml

Everyone, I've a new word for you -- what is the meaning of "stroun-bickle" or just plain "bickle"? I've searched several dictionaries without success. It's found in circa 1770s letter written in the southside VA area. Thanks for any and all suggestions. Linda Linda Sparks Starr http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr

Frances, most excellant web site on the Vaughans.I wish it was the Vaughans I am interested in! You are in inspiritation! jeannie researching hilburn, vaughan, simmons IOW, SURRY, etc.

Someone contacted me about Clack's recently. There are some listed at this site that Frances Cullen Harper was writing about: > If anyone is working on the early Vaughans, Maclins, and Wynns of Brunswick > Co, I have run across some records that might tie those families together > with a little more work. They're not my ancestors, but what I've found might > be helpful to anyone working with those families. You can find that info at > http://members.nbci.com/fcharper/vaughan.html >

Yes, I've traced this Bowen line from Mecklenburg back through Lunenburg and Brunswick to Bristol Parish - wish I knew where in Bristol Parish. I suspect a connection with the Thomas Andrews Sr family of Henrico (later Chesterfield), but can't prove it yet. I have found no connection to the Bollings. It took collecting all the adjoining patent descriptions and even drawing them out (in my next life I'll become a surveyor), but I finally found out what happened to that land. Maybe how I solved this will help someone else with a similar problem. I knew the various patents referred to Robert Bowen's land and Edward Henry's land and a deed by Robert Bowen referred to the land he was selling as adjoining Edward Henry's land. But no grant existed for either piece of land until many years later when only a part of Robert Bowen's remaining land was granted a patent. Edward Henry's land just disappeared from the records. But their lands had obviously been surveyed for a patent prior to some of the other grants since their surveyed lines were referred to. So I collected all these patent descriptions and started drawing, hoping that somehow it would all come together. It did!! There must have been some major problem with the patents for these two tracts - and maybe a couple of others that were nearby too. When I started drawing up John Clack's 1760 patent, I realized those lines already existed. John Clack was patenting the land that had always been referred to as Henry's and Bowen's land in the previous patents. The few Bowen and Henry lines I'd been able to establish from other patents were exactly the same as Clack's. There was no mention of the land having escheated in Clack's patent. It was written as if the land had never before been patented. Bowen had obviously had his land surveyed for a patent and was convinced he held a valid claim to the land. He had even deeded part of it to Clement Read in 1753. But apparently Clack had had the land surveyed for his patent by then even though his patent wasn't grant ed until 1760. Lunenburg Order Book 2 1/2B, p 265 John Clack agst Robt Bowing dfdnt; plaintif to recover agst Bowing & Jas Mitchell sherif July Court, 1753 The record didn't say what this was all about, but in combination with everything else, it's apparent that Clack didn't like Bowen deeding "his" land to Read and expected Bowen to pay him for it. (I'm sure Bowen must have really resented this - especially since he had lost the land to a mortgage!) I don't know what went wrong with Bowen's patent or Henry's patent, but Clack apparently was able to obtain a grant and both of them lost their claim to the land. Bowen also held land on the west side of Eagles Nest Creek - part of the same tract of land, but Clack didn't go after this. Surely as soon as Bowen lost part of his land to Clack, he would have realized he needed to do something to protect the rest of his land so he wouldn't lose it too. He was eventually granted a patent on the remainder - but not until 1768, 15 years later. I was aware of the "lag time" between surveys and grants, but I was surprised it was this long. The lag time was at least 7 years in Clack's case. I also noticed that William Wright's land and Margaret Bagwell's land in this same area could not be traced back to patents. Perhaps the same thing happened to them - I don't know. Once I solved my Bowen problem, I didn't worry about their land any more. Anyone researching those families might want to keep that in mind though. Their land may have been swallowed up in a later grant. In working with these patents, I was also able to determine where a couple of creeks were located that can't be found labeled on any map, not even the 1870 map of Mecklenburg. On the 1870 map (section 8 http://www.rootsweb.com/~vameckle/8sect.htm ), Eagles Nest Creek is the creek east of Smith Creek with a fork at the head and a branch halfway down. Robert Bowen, Drury Bowen, William Bowen, and George Vaughan owned land on this creek. George Vaughan held another tract father south in the branches of Taylor's Creek. The next creek east of Eagles Nest (the 1870 map cut it off but you can find it if you go to Mapblast) was called Island Creek. John Clack patented all the land between Eagles Nest and Island Creek north of the branch in Eagles Nest and his line (originally Henry's line) which stretched from the head of the branch SW to Island Creek. This was where part of Robert Bowen's land and all of Edward Henry's land was located. East of that was the land first granted to John Roberts and later repatented by William Robertson. I don't know if William descended from John or if the name was in fact Roberts of Robertson. Robert Bowen's 1768 patent (he'd held the land since at least 1753) was on the west side of Eagles Nest with William Dobyns' 1755 patent west of Bowen's. The Dobyns' land was sold to John Harper. You'll see Harper's Road and Harper's Old Bridge on the 1870 map, but the Harper land extended east beyond Smith Creek and adjoined the Bowen land. If anyone is working on the early Vaughans, Maclins, and Wynns of Brunswick Co, I have run across some records that might tie those families together with a little more work. They're not my ancestors, but what I've found might be helpful to anyone working with those families. You can find that info at http://members.nbci.com/fcharper/vaughan.html Just out of curiosity - has anyone ever used any software for drawing up tracts of land from deed/patent descriptions? I used a ruler and protractor to try to draw it all to scale, but I found it really frustrating when the descriptions included phrases like "down the creek as it meanders to the beginning". How far was that? Where was that creek? Which way did it go? It's not on any map. Oh, no! Not to a river where the line meanders down that some indefinite distance too! How would software cope with something like that? Can it use the estimated acres and the other surveyed lines to mathematically estimate how long those vague meandering lines should be? I had hoped to draw up these grants as graphics, but the graphics programs I have don't seem to show angle measurements or the length of diagonal lines. So I had to drop back to the old ruler and protractor method.

Would like to correspond with anyone that has research information on the REDMOND/REDMAN families in Virginia. I have been looking for parents, siblings, etc of THOMAS ERASTUS REDMAN/REDMOND born 1745 (of Irish descent) for some 20 years. Any help appreciated. Thank you in advance, Selena Redmond-Goodin srg@conninc.com

This word is "personalty"; he made of gift of some property OTHER than real estate, such as animals, money, furniture, jewelry, heirlooms, etc., etc. .

Frances, This may be a silly question, but have you checked Lunenburg records? You mention Brunswick Co below, but according to the map book that I have Mecklenburg Co was formed from Lunenburg Co in 1765, both being to the west of Brunswick. As an aside, I found deed abstracts while looking for my Sutherlin/Southerland folks in Amelia Co, a little to the north that have several mentions of Robert and Drury Bolling with one having a notation of a patent to Robert Bolling in 1738. Different family? Jeff Smith Frances Cullom Harper wrote: > > Can anyone explain to me what happened here? > > Robert Bowen held land on the south side of the Meherrin River on the west > side of Eagles Nest Creek (present NE Mecklenburg east of Smith Creek) prior > to 1755 when the William Dobyns grant referred to "Bowing's" line. There was > no grant for this land until 1768 when Drury Bowen and Robert Bowen were > granted a patent with the exact same line described in the Dobyns patent. I > am guessing they might have been sons of the earlier Robert Bowen, but > perhaps both Robert Bowens were the same. In 1753 Robert Bowen mortgaged > another piece of land (150 acres) farther up Eagles Nest Creek to Clement > Read. The deed stated the land adjoined Edward Henry. There was no grant for > that piece of Bowen land either. There was no grant for the Edward Henry > land although it was mentioned several times in other patents. There was > also mention in the early patents of Margaret Bagwell's land in the same > area - but no patent for it. The same for William Wright's land. All of > these folks seem to have held their land by the early 1750's - they were > some of the earliest landholders on the south side of the river in what is > now Mecklenburg Co. I've searched all the patents for this area thinking > that maybe the land was granted to someone else and inherited or sold, but I > can find no sign of that at all for any of them. In each case, they seem to > have been the original owners of the property. > > What happened here? Did these people believe they held a patent and then > find out later they didn't? That would seem to be the case with the Robert > Bowen land since Robert and Drury Bowen were granted a patent for it years > later in 1768. I know it often took years for patents to be granted, but > more than 15 years? And no patent was ever granted for the 150 acres that > was sold. Did these people apply for patents and then the paperwork was > lost? Were patents granted but never properly recorded? Were some of the > grant books lost? > > I understand that when Brunswick Co was formed, some of the early records > (1720-1732) that were recorded in the Prince George Co books until the new > county of Brunswick was organized were not copied into the Brunswick Co > books as they should have been. There was an order in 1735 that 52 deeds be > recorded, but apparently they never were. A Benjamin Boing and a few others > that can be associated with this area were in the list, but not any of the > names I was looking for. > > Could this be the explanation? But still, shouldn't there be grants for this > land to somebody else? Weren't the grants recorded separately in the grant > books? > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > VAGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagenweb > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

In a deed written in 1760, John Adcock of Granville Co., N.C. writes that he is deeding a "gift of personality" to his daughter. Can anyone tell me what this means? Thank you, Julia

I don't have the will book but i found a list of wills for Lunenburg Co. at the USGENWEB archives ( searched on county name and virginia) at: http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/va/lunenburg/wills/1746-1825-a .txt Perhaps you could tell us the name you are searching for? good hunting, Jeannie

Does anyone have access to Lunenburg County Will Book 3? Need copies of three wills--WB 3 page 163, 194, and 146. HELP EMH

Thanks to all that responded to my query for legal advice Have a great day Mildred

My records show a William Lynch who was b 1751 and died Dec 1821 in South Carolina. This Wm Lynch supposedly married a Mary____. In 1814 this (or another William Lynch) applied for a SC Pension. In his application he stated that at age 25 he had enrolled in the Corps of Militia Volunteers to help fight the Cherokee Indians. He was wounded in a skrimish on July 3, 1776 and lost the sight in his right eye. His pension was approved and wife Mary received a widow's pension. This William Lynch is recorded in SC land records in Enoree, SC. He had the following children: Charlotte, Malachi, Mary Lynch who m a Pace, John Lynch b 1775, Clarissa Lynch, and daughter Elvey Lynch who married my ancestor Thomas Couch (probably in Orange County, NC or Spartanburg County, SC. This information came mostly from two relatives on the internet. Should they be the same I would very much like to learn more. Robert H. Couch ---------- >From: "Fred K. Williams" <fkwill@bellsouth.net> >To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] aNCESTRAL SEARCH >Date: Tue, Jun 19, 2001, 9:57 AM > >The following were located in Patrick, Henry and adjoining counties: >William Lynch, born abt 1745 wife Rebecca? >Looking for any information on ancestors or descendants of William and Rebecca. > >William Spencer born abt 1750. Would appreciate any information on his ancestry. > >Ezekial Abram Purdy b. 1784 married Sarah Spencer, dau of William Spencer. >Have considerable descendant information on Ezekiel, but no ancestral info. > >Would share my information. Any information supplied would be much appreciated. > >Fred Williams. > > >==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== >Hosted by Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com > > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

> Folks -- > Could this be Bolling instead of Bowen?? Drury Bolling's land transactions > are all over the place and of course Drury and Robert were related. Do you > mind sighting your sources here?? Thanks. > Ernie Definitely Bowen. Sometimes in the old records it was spelled Bowing, Boing, Boring, etc and even once transcribed incorrectly into the patent books as Brown. 5 birth records in Bristol Parish spelled Bowen 4 times and Bowyon 1 time. Brunswick Co order books spelled Bowen most often but also Boren and Boreing. Similar Lunenburg Co order books, most often spelled Bowen 1747 grant to William Bowen Patents 28:225 http://199.111.106.8/cgi-bin/drawer/disk19/CC150/0357/B0165?95 1768 patent to Robert Bowen and Drury Bowen Patents 37:350 1761 patent to William Bowen recorded incorrectly as William Brown Patents 33:998 http://199.111.106.8/cgi-bin/drawer/disk19/CC150/0360/B0198?46 Deeds from William Bowen to sons Jesse Bowen and David Bowen and to Samuel Kirks dividing the land in the "Brown" patent above Lunenburg DB 7, p 262, 266, 270 http://199.111.106.8/cgi-bin/drawer/disk19/CC150/0357/B0165?23 1755 patent to William Dobyns Patents 31:555 http://lvaimage.lib.va.us/cgi-bin/drawer/disk19/CC150/0383/D0467?31 Lunenburg tithes lists with similar variant spellings Numerous scans of deeds, wills, etc as the clerks copied the originals into the will books, deed books, etc at http://members.nbci.com/fcharper/bowens.html I tried to give you some links to scans of original documents so you can verify the name yourself. Definitely not Bolling although it did get spelled all kinds of strange ways. I've never once seen it spelled Bolling though. Because of the clerks' handwriting, it is often difficult to tell the Bowen records from the Bowers records unless you know the families. I guess my best source was my own mother who always told me her name was Rebecca Fletcher Bowen (Cullom).

Folks -- Could this be Bolling instead of Bowen?? Drury Bolling's land transactions are all over the place and of course Drury and Robert were related. Do you mind sighting your sources here?? Thanks. Ernie Subj: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] land that traces back to nowhere Date: 06/19/2001 8:31:30 Central Daylight Time From: fharper@triad.rr.com (Frances Cullom Harper) To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Can anyone explain to me what happened here? Robert Bowen held land on the south side of the Meherrin River on the west side of Eagles Nest Creek (present NE Mecklenburg east of Smith Creek) prior to 1755 when the William Dobyns grant referred to "Bowing's" line. There was no grant for this land until 1768 when Drury Bowen and Robert Bowen were granted a patent with the exact same line described in the Dobyns patent. I am guessing they might have been sons of the earlier Robert Bowen, but perhaps both Robert Bowens were the same. In 1753 Robert Bowen mortgaged another piece of land (150 acres) farther up Eagles Nest Creek to Clement Read. The deed stated the land adjoined Edward Henry. There was no grant for that piece of Bowen land either. There was no grant for the Edward Henry land although it was mentioned several times in other patents. There was also mention in the early patents of Margaret Bagwell's land in the same area - but no patent for it. The same for William Wright's land. All of these folks seem to have held their land by the early 1750's - they were some of the earliest landholders on the south side of the river in what is now Mecklenburg Co. I've searched all the patents for this area thinking that maybe the land was granted to someone else and inherited or sold, but I can find no sign of that at all for any of them. In each case, they seem to have been the original owners of the property. What happened here? Did these people believe they held a patent and then find out later they didn't? That would seem to be the case with the Robert Bowen land since Robert and Drury Bowen were granted a patent for it years later in 1768. I know it often took years for patents to be granted, but more than 15 years? And no patent was ever granted for the 150 acres that was sold. Did these people apply for patents and then the paperwork was lost? Were patents granted but never properly recorded? Were some of the grant books lost? I understand that when Brunswick Co was formed, some of the early records (1720-1732) that were recorded in the Prince George Co books until the new county of Brunswick was organized were not copied into the Brunswick Co books as they should have been. There was an order in 1735 that 52 deeds be recorded, but apparently they never were. A Benjamin Boing and a few others that can be associated with this area were in the list, but not any of the names I was looking for. Could this be the explanation? But still, shouldn't there be grants for this land to somebody else? Weren't the grants recorded separately in the grant books? Subj: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] land that traces back to nowhere Date: 06/19/2001 8:54:08 Central Daylight Time From: martee@citlink.net (Paul Drake) To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com > What happened here? Did these people believe they held a patent and then > find out later they didn't? ***Yes; Sometimes - BUT NOT OFTEN, because surveyors were appointed by the governors and were as qualified as could be. Patents sometiomes overlapped by reason of the surveying difficulties in the wilderness that then was unsettled VA. I know it often took years for patents to be granted, but > more than 15 years? *** 15 years is a stretch, however sometimes patentees died after the right to the land was earned, yet before the land was "improved" to a degree sufficient to qualify for the actual grant. > And no patent was ever granted for the 150 acres that > was sold. Did these people apply for patents and then the paperwork was > lost? **** While I am sure this happened, the Clerks and those in the governors' administrations who handled grant and land matters were VERY careful as a rule. **** Were patents granted but never properly recorded? Very rarely, but yes. Remember though that recording was an animal of thsi continent, and was THEN unknown in England (thus "deed boxes"), and I am sure that some very few recent immigrants paid but little attention to that requirement. > Were some of the grant books lost? ****Yes, but VERY, VERY few; they were of the utmost importance to our earliest colonists. I know of no VA county that does not know whether or not the patent/land records for their county were lost at some time. > > I understand that when Brunswick Co was formed, some of the early records > (1720-1732) that were recorded in the Prince George Co books until the new county of Brunswick was organized were not copied into the Brunswick Co > books as they should have been. There was an order in 1735 that 52 deeds be > recorded, but apparently they never were. **** Good info, Cookie, especially for those who are researching Brunswick. But still, shouldn't there be grants for this land to somebody else? ****Not if the grant had been issued after "improvement" and not recorded. Weren't the grants recorded separately in the grant > books? **** at the governors' level, when the land was an original grant, the answer is yes. At the local level, at first, yes, but soon such entries were recorded in the same fashion as were other conveyances and documents having to do land. >

Dear List, Sometime back some kind person on the List offered to send me a copy of John Fitzgerald's Will that was probated in Bristol County. I would appreciate if that person would contact me. I lost the address and name when I moved to my summer home. Thanks. Ken Larsen

Hi Geraldine, I have some of the books on VA that you wanted regarding your William and Daniel Robertson. I will just scan the pages that you asked about and send to you privately, if that is okay. They will come as JPEG attachments, so wanted to warn you in advance. Bonnie