I bite my tongue.............................................................. ................... Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: <fstrampe@home.com> To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 8:07 PM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Unsubscribe > This website doesn't appear to have much to do with genealogy. > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > USGW Archives Pension Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pensions/ > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com >
Margaret's story is true, and I had no reason for having kept that particular paper for many years before then, since it had no significance to me whatever. Moreover, I had bought and sold hundreds of old papers during those years, yet kept that one !!!. Spooky :) I think Margaret's old German ancestor had some hand in that event :) :) One of several spook stories in my genealogy years. Bet Lee has some of the same. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Driskill" <mdriskill@worldnet.att.net> To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:48 PM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Old Newspapers > Dearest cousins, friends and fellow researchers, > > I shall change the subject, even though I have loved this wonderful discussion of 'times past'. > > I have never shared with you all the strange thing that happened a couple of years ago while I was researching my ORNDORFF ancestor. > > Paul Drake and I were discussing the above ancestor and I mentioned that they lived in Sharpsburg, Washington County, MD, also mentioning that they had bought property in Washington, DC and how interesting it was to see those plots now overlaid on the current DC. Paul asked for Major Christian Orndorff's wife's name and I told him. He said that the name sure sounded familiar. > > Your will never believe what happened next! Paul had the ORIGINAL newspaper with her obit. on the front page. He gave me the paper as a gift, all safely enclosed in archival protection and to this day I get chill bumps when I read of her death. Major Christian Orndorff, by the way, is one of my Amer. Rev. ancestors. > > I bring this to the VA-SOUTHSIDE attention because there is so much information in the old newspapers that one never knows what they might find. So....if you ever can get your hands on old Lunenburg County or surrounding Counties, please, please let me know as I would love to buy/read them after you have read them...of course. > > Fondly, > Margaret > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > Hosted by Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F1 1HB >
Dearest cousins, friends and fellow researchers, I shall change the subject, even though I have loved this wonderful discussion of 'times past'. I have never shared with you all the strange thing that happened a couple of years ago while I was researching my ORNDORFF ancestor. Paul Drake and I were discussing the above ancestor and I mentioned that they lived in Sharpsburg, Washington County, MD, also mentioning that they had bought property in Washington, DC and how interesting it was to see those plots now overlaid on the current DC. Paul asked for Major Christian Orndorff's wife's name and I told him. He said that the name sure sounded familiar. Your will never believe what happened next! Paul had the ORIGINAL newspaper with her obit. on the front page. He gave me the paper as a gift, all safely enclosed in archival protection and to this day I get chill bumps when I read of her death. Major Christian Orndorff, by the way, is one of my Amer. Rev. ancestors. I bring this to the VA-SOUTHSIDE attention because there is so much information in the old newspapers that one never knows what they might find. So....if you ever can get your hands on old Lunenburg County or surrounding Counties, please, please let me know as I would love to buy/read them after you have read them...of course. Fondly, Margaret
I am here asking Ms. Zora Drake, a fine and charming NC/VA cousin, to send us her Mom's recipe by private email; she prepared it for a bunch of us one summer in Tidewater NC. C'mon, Zora; tell 'em. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: <SARACOLLIN@aol.com> To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:36 PM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Brunswick Stew > Seeing the multiple and good responses on Milk Toast took me back to a > wonderful dish calleBrunswick Stew. I spent my early years in Palmer > Springs and recall what a treat it was having it served. If any of you have > a recipe on how to cook this, I would love to have it. I reside in CA now > and there is no such thing! I am new to this site and love reading all the > messages. Thanks. > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb Archives Census Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/ > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >
This website has EVERYTHING to do with genealogy...history; terminology; knowledge!!!!!! >From: <fstrampe@home.com> >To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Unsubscribe >Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 20:07:10 -0500 > >This website doesn't appear to have much to do with genealogy. > > >==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== >USGW Archives Pension Project >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pensions/ > > >============================== >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Milk toast is apparently universal. My Mom, in Alabama, always made it for any family member who was not feeling well. I wouldn't admit to being sick until I fell down because I hated it so! Mildred "Mickey" Fournier PO Box 1967, Lake City, FL 32056 mailto:MFournier@atlantic.net
At 04:22 PM 8/13/01 -0700, you wrote: >I don't usually join in the Southside posts as I would rather 'listen and >learn', however I have had experience with Milk Toast. My mother made it >for me many times when I was young and not feeling well. I considered it a >comfort food and always liked it. I haven't had it in years because it >tasted so much better when my mother made it. >And by the way Paul, I had all my teeth and still do. :-) My mother was >from Southern Illinois. Does anyone know if it was a regional treat'? I grew up in Texas and had Milk Toast many times as a youngster, and not that I remember was I 'Puny." I am now 82 years old. And I too still have all but one tooth. Bill still in Texas
That brings back memories! My mother always made what you-all call milk toast whenever I was sick. However, she called it "toast with gravy." It was the same thing - buttered toast with sugar sprinkled on it, then hot milk poured over it. MMMMM. Mom was from Arkansas. Maybe it's a southern thing? Jo Anna Dale <jdale@swbell.net>
That note was from a subscriber, gcooper@lexcominc.net not the List owner. Not to worry, my friend, this IS GENEALOGY. Fondly, Margaret
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------52E5A0AABDA9A56A63D5D976 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is this genealogy ? --------------52E5A0AABDA9A56A63D5D976 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from DIRECTORY-DAEMON.InfoAve.Net by InfoAve.Net (PMDF V6.0-24 #38780) id <01K73GX4F5LS9LZ7H3@InfoAve.Net>; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:08:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([63.92.80.123]) by InfoAve.Net (PMDF V6.0-24 #38780) with ESMTP id <01K73GX288UM9I8LZF@InfoAve.Net>; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:07:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7DN5u100586; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:05:56 -0600 Resent-date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:05:56 -0600 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:02:11 -0500 Resent-from: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com From: Margaret Driskill <mdriskill@worldnet.att.net> Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Wm Byrd's Diary -- BOILED MILK? Resent-sender: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L-request@rootsweb.com To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Resent-message-id: <xUKOHB.A.rI.U1Fe7@lists5.rootsweb.com> Message-id: <008201c1244c$0155d000$9ce24c0c@3956701> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: list X-Loop: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Old-To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> X-Original-Sender: mdriskill@worldnet.att.net Mon Aug 13 17:05:56 2001 References: <40.f900f41.28a99f87@aol.com> <006101c12445$05045d40$9ce24c0c@3956701> <031601c12448$04c2b900$ec60d7aa@oemcomputer> X-Mailing-List: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/12926 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Now that I think of it, I was always just getting over some sickness when Mother fixed it. Maybe that is why I remember it as UCK!!! :) ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== USGenWeb Archives Digital Maps Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/maps/ ============================== Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! --------------52E5A0AABDA9A56A63D5D976--
My dear Mr/Mrs. Cooper, Yes, discussing Milk Toast is most definitely genealogy! Dates and places are only teeny-tiny parts of genealogy. How our ancestors lived...which most definitely included their diets, their clothing, their culture in general is what gives them skin and bones and most definitely warm blood. Do be kind and grant us a little sentimental journey every now and then. Also, Mr. William Byrd, 1674-1744 was most definitely an interesting character. Warmest regards, Margaret
Dear Jeannine, We lived in Western North Carolina, so it was not regional. I would bet you that it has been around for eons! Margaret
As for me: It has been and remains my view that genealogy is family history, and diet and common foods were very much a part of the lives of our ancestors, just as were types of homes, methods of farming, the maple syrup of New England and the molasses of the South, the open range laws of the west, the dresss of women, firearms, railroads, Native Americans, cotton, corn and herds of cattle, and the medicines we used. All those factors and myriad more influenced our people to the greatest extent during every single day of our long history, and without such knowledge, for me at least, my ancestors become names with no content. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: <gcooper@lexcominc.net> To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 6:20 PM Subject: [Fwd: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Wm Byrd's Diary -- BOILED MILK?] > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------52E5A0AABDA9A56A63D5D976 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Is this genealogy ? > --------------52E5A0AABDA9A56A63D5D976 > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > > Return-path: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L-request@rootsweb.com> > Received: from DIRECTORY-DAEMON.InfoAve.Net by InfoAve.Net > (PMDF V6.0-24 #38780) id <01K73GX4F5LS9LZ7H3@InfoAve.Net>; Mon, > 13 Aug 2001 19:08:02 -0400 (EDT) > Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([63.92.80.123]) > by InfoAve.Net (PMDF V6.0-24 #38780) > with ESMTP id <01K73GX288UM9I8LZF@InfoAve.Net>; Mon, > 13 Aug 2001 19:07:57 -0400 (EDT) > Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) > id f7DN5u100586; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:05:56 -0600 > Resent-date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:05:56 -0600 > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:02:11 -0500 > Resent-from: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com > From: Margaret Driskill <mdriskill@worldnet.att.net> > Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Wm Byrd's Diary -- BOILED MILK? > Resent-sender: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L-request@rootsweb.com > To: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-message-id: <xUKOHB.A.rI.U1Fe7@lists5.rootsweb.com> > Message-id: <008201c1244c$0155d000$9ce24c0c@3956701> > MIME-version: 1.0 > X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 > Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-priority: Normal > Precedence: list > X-Loop: VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com > Old-To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> > X-Original-Sender: mdriskill@worldnet.att.net Mon Aug 13 17:05:56 2001 > References: <40.f900f41.28a99f87@aol.com> > <006101c12445$05045d40$9ce24c0c@3956701> > <031601c12448$04c2b900$ec60d7aa@oemcomputer> > X-Mailing-List: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/12926 > X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 > > Now that I think of it, I was always just getting over some sickness when > Mother fixed it. Maybe that is why I remember it as UCK!!! :) > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb Archives Digital Maps Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/maps/ > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > --------------52E5A0AABDA9A56A63D5D976-- > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > VAGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagenweb > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >
Milk-toast was common across the Ohio River states and the mid-South. Hey you all; was that a common food in Tidewater VA and the deep South????? Incidentally, does anyone have a guess as to why our Southern biscuits with sausage/ham/bacon were not common in the Northern States? ----- Original Message ----- From: "MJM" <mjm@rcsis.com> To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 6:22 PM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Re: BOILED MILK > I don't usually join in the Southside posts as I would rather 'listen and learn', however I have had experience with Milk Toast. My mother made it for me many times when I was young and not feeling well. I considered it a comfort food and always liked it. I haven't had it in years because it tasted so much better when my mother made it. > And by the way Paul, I had all my teeth and still do. :-) My mother was from Southern Illinois. Does anyone know if it was a regional > 'treat'? I grew up in the West and can't recall anyone else having it. > It's a nice reminder of some happy memoriesMakes me wish I could have her comfort food right now. > > Jeannine > Looking for Gordon, Lax in Halifax. [Virginia] > > > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > VAGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagenweb > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >
Grandmother (b.1866) added honey from her own hives now and then, as did many women of the late 19th- and early 20th-centuries (but not cinnamon, Hugh......hhhmmm ?) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Driskill" <mdriskill@worldnet.att.net> To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 6:04 PM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] BOILED MILK? > Hugh is right! > > I forgot...it was sweet so Mother must have added sugar. Our dear inquirer > is going to be sorry she asked. > > Margaret > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb Archives Digital Maps Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/maps/ > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >
Hugh is right! I forgot...it was sweet so Mother must have added sugar. Our dear inquirer is going to be sorry she asked. Margaret
I forgot to mention that milk-toast also served well when mothers had no other suitable breakfast food for little ones, and at the same time had some stale bread. See what you have wrought, Margaret :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Drake" <martee@citlink.net> To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Wm Byrd's Diary -- BOILED MILK? > Margaret is surely correct, as usual. "Milk-toast" was for old > folks with no teeth or ongoing digestive problems (or occasional > ones, as well) and was for children, especially those with but few > teeth. It also took the place of ground food - meats, vegetables, > etc - for tiny children, and was much less work for the mothers. > Paul > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margaret Driskill" <mdriskill@worldnet.att.net> > To: <VA-SOUTHSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 5:12 PM > Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Wm Byrd's Diary -- BOILED MILK? > > > > I am going to jump in on this one because I think I know the > answer. My > > mother fixed it on occasion and I hated it. > > > > You heat milk. Place a piece of buttered toast in a bowl and pour > the milk > > over it. It is called milk-toast. UCK!!!! > > > > Fond childhood memories most of the time. :) > > Margaret > > > > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > > VAGenWeb > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagenweb > > > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb Archives Census Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/ > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >
Now that I think of it, I was always just getting over some sickness when Mother fixed it. Maybe that is why I remember it as UCK!!! :)
This nickname appears many times. I am trying to sort out a Chambers family that may have come down the Wagon Road, etc. Lots of names are fitting together. For the life of me I can't figure this one out though, and it is not uncommon. I say nickname/name because I recently had a visit with a cousin who I thought would be William Baugh...But no all his records say Billy Gene... Now he named his first son William...but when we go to talking about what they "real name was", this VERY contemporary experience is of interest. Janet
Don't forget to add sugar and cinnamon. It was quite a treat out on the High Plains of West Texas during the thirties! Hugh Jefferson > I am going to jump in on this one because I think I know the answer. My > mother fixed it on occasion and I hated it. > > You heat milk. Place a piece of buttered toast in a bowl and pour the milk > over it. It is called milk-toast. UCK!!!! > > Fond childhood memories most of the time. :) > Margaret > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > VAGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagenweb > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > >