I agree with you, Audrey, about the usefulness of deeds in doing genealogical research. I have found some great finds in deeds and also patents for land. I have *patched together* more of my families by using deeds, and family history experts tell us how important they are. (In England, hardly anyone but the upper crust could own land. The same was true in Germany, whence came many of our people.) Also, recorded with deeds frequently are powers of attorney, and these empower someone in another location (or going to another location) to conduct some business for the grantor--sometimes to collect debts. When the deed indexes are thorough, I can frequently tell when someone has died as his heirs are selling the land. Sometimes I find the names of the sons-in-laws of the deceased persons. Each case is different, but one gets a flavor of the times -- and the fluctuation in the value of the land -- by reading deeds. Also, when everybody in the county is losing his shirt, as the banks and the railroads have called in their notes!!! E.W.Wallace

Hi, I need the link to Va. Records that are online... can't remember the name of it ): but you can read and scan the records on land deeds.. can anyone out there help? Diane

Hi Diane, I am guessing you would like the Land Records at the Library of Virginia: http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/land/index.htm Click on the above link for their various categories of land records. Click on the link below to go their broader collections across other categories. http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/ Hope this helps. Best regards, Rob > From: "Diane" <[email protected]> > Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:18:02 -0400 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Need link to Va. Records > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 18:18:02 -0600 > > Hi, > I need the link to Va. Records that are online... can't remember the name of > it ): but you can read and scan the records on land deeds.. can anyone out > there help? > Diane > > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb > Do Not Flame other Members on List. > If you have problems or concerns with list posts, contact the List > Administrator. [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Dear Bill Mitchell, You would like to research for yourself G. C. Chamberlayne's books on Bristol Parish. Are you near an LDS Family History Center? If so, I see from the catalog on <A HREF="www.familysearch.org"> www.familysearch.org</A> that there are films of two of his books on Bristol Parish. I did an author search, using Chamberlayne only, as I seldom can remember the initials. Click on his name, and a longish list of his works will come up. There are books of his at the Library in Salt Lake City, but the Births etc of Bristol Parish have been filmed: Film 1035876, Item 9 [meaning there are 8 other items preceding the Birth records] The vestry book is separate: Film 1036590, Item 2 (The vestry book generally has such subjects as processioning records, the poor law relief administered by the parish, etc. accounts paid, accounts owed, etc.) If you are near an LDS center, telephone and find their opening hours. They are run by volunteers and are not always open. You can order the films for a small fee, for a limited time, to your center. If SLC has duplicate films, you may not have to wait long. If the Library has to make duplicates, then there is a longer wait. Lookups are great, but sometimes you find people associated with your families, and you would like to know about them also. Also, you might like to know that the St. Louis, Missouri county [not city] Library has the genealogical collection of the National Genealogical Society, and they do interlibrary loans. I don't believe you have to be a member of NGS to effect a loan. I don't recall the URL for the St. Louis County library, but with a google.com search, you probably can readily find it. If not call up your own public library--which should have a directory of US libraries, at the very least. E.W.Wallace

>From Brunswick Co., VA Deed Bk 5 (CC = County Clerk) p. 462 David Williams of Bath Parish in Dinwiddie Co to George Booth Sr of Albemarle Parish in Surry Co. 16 Oct 1753. 32 pds. 389 acres as by patent to David Williams dated 31 May 1753, in Brunswick & Lunenburg counties, on Bever Pond Creek. Wit: George Booth Jr, Thos Parrish, John Malone, Robt Whitehall, Peter Williams. Proved 27 Nov 1753. Litt Tazewell CC p. 467 Luke Williams of Northfarnham Parish in Richmond Co. to Henry Williams of same. 20 Oct 1753. 50 pds VA (No acres) which John Williams the father of Henry Williams & Luke Williams purchased from John Davis, on Nottoway River, joining Matthews. Wit: Joshua (I) Hightower, John Phenix, Charnel Hightower, John (x) Gunter, Francis Elmer, Hugh Williams. Proved 27 Nov 1753. Litt Tazewell CC p. 469 Henry Williams of Northfarnham Parish in Richmond Co to Luke Williams of same. 20 Oct 1753. 50 pds VA (No acres) which John Williams the father of Luke Williams & Henry Williams purchased from John Davis, on Nottoway River, joining Matthews. Wit: Joshua (I) Hightower, John Phenix, Charnel Hightower, Francis Elmer, John (x) Gunter, Hugh Williams. Proved 27 Nov 1753. Litt Tazewell CC p. 472 Luke Williams of Northfarnham Parish in Richmond Co. to William Cocke of St Andrews Parish in Brunswick Co. 22 Oct 1753. 40 pds VA (No acres) which John Williams the father of sd Luke Williams purchased from John Davis, on Nottoway River, joining Charles Matthews. Wit: Hugh Williams, Robert Check, James Adams, Hubbard Quarles, Dibdall Holt, Henry Clank. Proved 27 Nov 1753. Litt Tazewell CC (Dr. Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., BRUNSWICK COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEED BOOKS, VOL. 2, 1744-1755, 1764 [Lawrenceville, VA: 1997], p. 85) Listers--if you subscribe to surname lists which include any of the above surnames, I suggest you copy and send to those lists. E.W.Wallace

Hello, fellow Va southsiders. I need help from someone who lives near Petersburg or Richmond. I have learned that there is a book titled "Births from the Bristol Parish Register of Henrico, Prince George, and Dinwiddie Counties, Virginia 1720 -1798" by Churchill Gibson Chanmberlayne, which is a research book found in the Virginia State Library and the Petersburg library. It is not for checking out, and cannot be accessed by interlibrary loand. I need a look-up in it. I am noit presently able to visit there myself. My ancestor, John Henry Mitchell was born in Petersburg, either in 1745 or 1750. (I have found both dates in national databases.) I do not know (but want to find out) who his mother and farther were, and whom he married. They had one son that I know of -- Thomas Hardaway Mitchell, born in 1792 in Dinwiddie Co, VA. John Henry moved to Oglethorpe Co., GA somtime near 1800, and died there in 1806 Thomas Hardaway married Ruth(ie) Tillery in Oglethorpe Co. in 1814, and they moved on to Walton Co., GA. I also want to find who John Henry's ancestors were, and if there were other offspring of John Henry and his wife. If anyone would be kind enough to help me by checking in this reference book, I would be pleased, and would pay expenses for the trip. I would also be willing to pay a resonable stipend. Help would be most appreciated. Bill Mitchell

Hello, Doc Will. Here are two sources for preservation materials for small items, particularly photos and documentary material. http://www.pfile.com/index.html http://www.lightimpressionsdirect.com/servlet/OnlineShopping?Dsp=240000&R=9740 The easiest approach for many is to ask at your local library for permission to look at their library archival supplies catalog, then pursue your needs within that source. A good general rule to remember is that paper and cloth will outlast even a headstone, if you will but keep all such items dry, free of ANY oil (even body oils), free from dust and grime, and stored in acid free folders in a dark, cool spot in your home. I require all who would handle my letters, etc., to wash and dry their hands before handling those. For larger items, such as metal objects, I - and many others, I am sure, will be glad to assist if you will but tell us what those items are. Glad you found a lawyer with home you can get along. :-) Paul Drake JD (retired) ---- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 1:53 PM Subject: help ....In the summer, I live in a retirement community and have been speaking to a 100 year old retired lawyer named Harold McIssac (I am a retired doctor and yes, we do speak to each other). ....2. what is the best way of duplicating these papers so that they will not be folded and refolded or handled at all and yet easily referred to for documentation (i.e. the dangers of photocopying, etc.) AND for myself:

These abstracts are from Irene B. Webster, ROCKINGHAM COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA DEEDS ABSTRCTS, 1785-1800   P. 24: DB B-165  Isham Simmons to Constant Perkins of Pittsylvania Co., Va. for 45 pds 300 A on Burchfields fork of Wolf Island Cr.  May 1, 1788. [wit] Robert Galloway, Jno Challes, Isaac Clark DB B-174  William Burton & wife Ann of Pittsylvania Co., Va. to John Walker for 50 pds 250 A on Wolf Island Cr adj Allen Williams, Luke Bernard, land granted May 16, 1787 to Joseph Burton.  May 27, 1788.  [wit] Robt Galloway, Nathl. Linder, James Saunders. DB B-179  Zacharia Bran of Sullivan Co. to George Ward of Pittsylvania Co., Va. for 100 pds 100 A on Stoney Cr adj Matthew Mills, John Lunnon, Philip Larimore, Samuel Brown.  Nov 1, 1788.  [wit]  George Adams, Philip Laremore, John Perkins. Comment:  There are a fair number of references in these Rockingham Co. NC deeds to persons who reside elsewhere--not only Virginia, but also South Carolina. One person commented in a lecture in Virginia some years ago that after the Revolution, Virginia nearly emptied!!!  Not my statement, but his!!! E.W.Wallace  

Hmmm! "... Virginia nearly emptied!!!" Sort of ..."How Ya gonna keep em down on the farm once they've seen Savannah?" Myron E. Williams [email protected] wrote: >These abstracts are from Irene B. Webster, ROCKINGHAM COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA >DEEDS ABSTRCTS, 1785-1800 > >P. 24: >DB B-165 Isham Simmons to Constant Perkins of Pittsylvania Co., Va. for 45 >pds 300 A on Burchfields fork of Wolf Island Cr. May 1, 1788. [wit] Robert >Galloway, Jno Challes, Isaac Clark > >DB B-174 William Burton & wife Ann of Pittsylvania Co., Va. to John Walker >for 50 pds 250 A on Wolf Island Cr adj Allen Williams, Luke Bernard, land >granted May 16, 1787 to Joseph Burton. May 27, 1788. [wit] Robt Galloway, Nathl. >Linder, James Saunders. > >DB B-179 Zacharia Bran of Sullivan Co. to George Ward of Pittsylvania Co., >Va. for 100 pds 100 A on Stoney Cr adj Matthew Mills, John Lunnon, Philip >Larimore, Samuel Brown. Nov 1, 1788. [wit] George Adams, Philip Laremore, John >Perkins. > >Comment: There are a fair number of references in these Rockingham Co. NC >deeds to persons who reside elsewhere--not only Virginia, but also South >Carolina. > >One person commented in a lecture in Virginia some years ago that after the >Revolution, Virginia nearly emptied!!! Not my statement, but his!!! > >E.W.Wallace > > > >==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== >Do not post Advertisements, Chain Letters, Virus Warnings etc. to this list. If in doubt, Contact: G. Lee Hearl, Adm. at: [email protected] >Hosted by Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

I'd like to re-confirm what most of us already know-this is a GREAT list!! I have had lots of helpful replies to my query about Hopewell history and want to say thanks for the help. Donna

Dear List, John Williams was supposedly from England but settled in I.O.W. I have seen information that says Nicholas, and William Williams were from I.O.W. with Matthew Williams b. in Brunswick Co. Terry

Dear List, I have reason to believe that my Williams may connect with the above. My line would run: John Wms. b. abt. 1627; Nicholas, b. abt. 1687; Wm. Williams, b. 1704; Matthew Williams, b. abt. 1732; Lewis Williams, b. Jan. 21, 1755 m. Sallie Oslin. I would like to hear from anyone connected to this line or who may have information concerning this line. I will be glad to share any information that I have. Thanking you in advance, Terry

Wonder if the reason there is a small town between Danville and Lynchburg named Gretna? No Green attached to the name now. Interesting tidbit. Bill Crews Symonds wrote: > The below mail spurred a question: were there extra-legal marriages > performed in the Virginia colony by blacksmiths, or others, especially > among those colonists who had immigrated from Scotland? > > Marilyn > > From Merriam Webster Word of the Day, June 25: > >>Gretna Green \gret-nuh-GREEN\ noun > : a place where many eloping couples are married > Example sentence: > Reno, Nevada is an American Gretna Green, the ideal place for runaway > lovers to tie the knot. > > Did you know? > In the England of the 1700s, a person could not marry without parental > consent until age 21. The Scottish were more lenient, allowing young > people to marry without parental permission at 16. England also had > rules that made it difficult to marry quickly, but Scottish law required > only that couples declare their desire to be married in front of > witnesses before tying the knot. So it isn't surprising that many > English couples ran to Gretna Green, a small village on the > English-Scottish border, when they decided to elope. In Gretna Green, > the wedding ceremony was typically performed by the blacksmith at a > roadside tollhouse, but it was all perfectly legal.<< > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > Always Keep Your Anti Virus Program Updated Regularly. > USGW Archives Pension Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pensions/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

The below mail spurred a question: were there extra-legal marriages performed in the Virginia colony by blacksmiths, or others, especially among those colonists who had immigrated from Scotland? Marilyn From Merriam Webster Word of the Day, June 25: >>Gretna Green \gret-nuh-GREEN\ noun : a place where many eloping couples are married Example sentence: Reno, Nevada is an American Gretna Green, the ideal place for runaway lovers to tie the knot. Did you know? In the England of the 1700s, a person could not marry without parental consent until age 21. The Scottish were more lenient, allowing young people to marry without parental permission at 16. England also had rules that made it difficult to marry quickly, but Scottish law required only that couples declare their desire to be married in front of witnesses before tying the knot. So it isn't surprising that many English couples ran to Gretna Green, a small village on the English-Scottish border, when they decided to elope. In Gretna Green, the wedding ceremony was typically performed by the blacksmith at a roadside tollhouse, but it was all perfectly legal.<<

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Maxine, I'd probably call the Danville Library, Genealogy Dept., and ask itheir advice. Unfortunately, I've lost the telephone number. They have lots of information on old families of the area and were very helpful to me, not only when I was there, and mailed stuff to me after I left. Mignon

Is any familiar with Stephen Hubbard (dec. 1835) of Patrick County Virginia. I am looking for his marriage date to Susannah Dehart d/o Aaron Dehart? Cynthia A. Wilson Seattle, WA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

Can you look for a marriage for a William Manor and a Mary Harvey?

Forgive me for the mistake I made when I subcribed for membership. I am looking for any information on the following families in my grandmother McKenzies ancestory- Davis, McHaney''McMahan and Mcmahaney'', Luck, and Hubbard families of Pittsylvania and Halifax counties, Va. My ancestors in this line were Richard H. McHaney who married Mariah/Geriah Davis on December 25, 1809 in Pittsylvania co. Va. Richard H. McHaneys parents were Terry or Terrance McHaney and Sarah Luck of Pittsylvania co. Va. I would like to hear from anyone who would be researching these families. Thank you very much. Duane McKenzie. mailto:[email protected]

Marriage of Charles T Wilkerson, son of Thomas Wilkerson and Mary {Ann Jane Fletcher Wilkerson} Averett to Agusta Ann Glasscock, daughter of Sanford Glasscock and Sarah {Tuck} Glasscock on 23 May 1872 by Richard D Jones. JP. in Granville Co. NC. I found them in Mecklenburg Co. VA census in 1880 with one child...Pailie/Polly. Charles and Augusta's families were from Halifax Co. VA. Does anyone know what happened to Charles and Augusta after 1880? Did they have more children? Mary