Hello Everyone, With regard to the following message, I highly recommend that Nel subscribe to the Richmond Co NC list, to which I am a subscriber. It is excellent and has several very knowledgeable persons who know the history of Richmond and its parent, Anson Co. NC, inside and out, include perhaps insights into the question raised. What I do know, as my Louisa/Caroline Co. VA ancestors (Clarke, Haley, Medlock/Matlock, Stone) migrated there over a period of 20 years. When they first arrived they were involved in activities surrounding the basic stripping of the forests for wood, most of which was used in/up by the Rev. War. Then that land was planted in cotton, which also worked out well. (My group left for Robertson Co. TN in 1805/6, one family I am told (but question) because there were still too many Tories (probably Quakers) in the neighborhood.) Good Luck! Janet Hunter > Nel wrote the following: > > I and my family are listed in the 1790 Richmond Co, NC as Free Negro. I > think I'm white but I may be 1/2 Indian. I'm positive my wife is Indian but she > may be part Negro (or at least darker skinned). My kids could be a mish-mosh > of light to dark. >

I continue to see references to the COLONIAL Cemetery in Surry County, VA. Does anyone recognize this cemetery from this discription. If so, where was it? Does anyone know of a listing of those buried there? Thank you in advance, Georgia

Is there anyone out there willing to do a Lookup at the Brunswick County, VA courthouse for me??? If so...please send me your fee schedule. I'm looking for the heirs of James Stainback and his wife, Elizabeth Dugger Stainback. James died between 1810-1811. Elizabeth is listed as the land owner in 1815 according to the land tax records, but is not listed in the 1820 Census. I'm thinking she died before then. Anyone interested in searching the Guardianship accounts (as most of the children will be underage at the time of their deaths), Order books, or Probate records please email me. Thanks.... Charlie Rathbun 276 Winchester Ridge N Jasper, Ga 30143

This may be a false lead, but Streets & Trips finds a "Sugar Tree Inn" in Vesuvius, VA 24483. That's on the Blue Ridge Parkway in Rockbridge County. Hope this doesn't lead you too far astray. Myron E. Williams Teresa wrote: >Does anyone know what county "Sugar Tree, VA" was located ? I can't >find it on any list of current VA towns or cities. Have an ancestor >of my husband's supposedly born there according to DAR records. > >Any help appreciated. Thanks. > > > >==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== >Always Keep Your Anti Virus Program Updated Regularly. >USGW Archives Pension Project >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pensions/ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

I did not see it listed in the Virginia list of cities ... but I guess I'm just blind. Just decided to look at an atlas ... and THERE IS WAS! Apologize for the "useless" query!

Dear Southside Researchers, Does anyone know if this "community" still exists, and, if so, where? I have a letter postmarked from there in 1933. Was it located in Lunenberg County? Thanks, Karen

Thanks to all who replied regarding Sugar Tree, VA. I have my answer now : Pittsyvania County. This is a great list. Teresa

It shows in my map on the Lunenburg/Prince Edward County line on US Route 360. Not clear which county. About halfway between Keysville & Burkeville. (Map is MS Streets & Trips 2003.) Myron E. Williams [email protected] wrote: >Dear Southside Researchers, > >Does anyone know if this "community" still exists, and, if so, where? I have >a letter postmarked from there in 1933. Was it located in Lunenberg County? >Thanks, >Karen > > >==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== >USGenWeb Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb >Do Not Flame other Members on List. >If you have problems or concerns with list posts, contact the List Administrator. [email protected] > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Does anyone know what county "Sugar Tree, VA" was located ? I can't find it on any list of current VA towns or cities. Have an ancestor of my husband's supposedly born there according to DAR records. Any help appreciated. Thanks.

I am trying to contact Patrick Morgan Harrison. His e-mail address used to be <[email protected]> but it isn't working. Does anybody know how I can reach him? Thank you so much. Jo Anna Dale <[email protected]>

Nel wrote the following: I and my family are listed in the 1790 Richmond Co, NC as Free Negro. I think I'm white but I may be 1/2 Indian. I'm positive my wife is Indian but she may be part Negro (or at least darker skinned). My kids could be a mish-mosh of light to dark. **** In 1790 sparsely populated Richmond County, NC was on a principal early road/trail from Wilmington to Charlotte and on west, and the law, though primitive by our standards, was present and active. Just as today, a person - black or white or in between - was known to his/her community, hence it is doubtful that your family, once acquainted in the area, would be required to show identification or "freedom papers" as you went about your life. As now, strangers were suspect, and the papers of such people would have been demanded and carefully examined (especially since there often was a reward for unemancipated Slave), while others lnown to the residents would not be bothered. More important, mixtures of the races on this continent had been taking place for then 175 years+-, and quite like today, there were many shades of color among those of mixed lineage. That fact and the genealogy of most, no matter what color, being quite unknown, when the enumerator came by, if you were known, and though you did not know your lineage, the enumerator put down what you appeared to be just as he used phonetic spelling of those who were illiterate). Since, if you were any part Black you were considered all Black, many claimed to be part Indian, thus avoiding bringing to themselves the stigma of being known as "Black". (Even though in many places being of American Indian blood carried the same social rejection.) Finally, notice that by 1790 in Tidewater country it had been more than 100 years since there had been Indian/White harsh conflicts, so there you were less likely to be believed if you claimed Indian blood, while in the moutains of NC/VA/etc., the likelihood that you would be believed was much greater. Paul Our ancestors acted and thought VERY much as you do. I suggest that if you encountered that mixed race family, and they had been known to you or your friends, you would likely not ask for identification, yet still would put them down in the census catgory that seemed to fit. By the same token, if you were that head of household in Richmond county, when asked for your race, you quite likely would at least consider asserting that you were part Indian and not Black. ****

Just in case someone else is interested, the following is an excellent online resource for research in North Carolina. The North Carolina State Archives Manuscript and Archives Reference System. http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/sections/archives/arch/mars.htm Charlotte

I know this is prbably not the place to ask but is there any site similar to the LVA VA record site for North Carolina? Does one of the NC universities have such a site? Pat [email protected] wrote: > Subject: > > VA-SOUTHSIDE-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 139 > Today's Topics: > #1 [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Re: Need link to > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Re: Need link to Va. Records > Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 14:36:44 -0500 > From: Rob Jolly <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Hi Diane, > > This may (or may not) be what you are seeking. Go to: > > http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/ > > There are numerous categories here, but you are probably interested in the > Archives and Manuscripts Catalog. Click on that link. This leads you a > search page. Type in the family name you researching in the word or phrase > field and select "keyword" under search type. > > >

This was posted to the Norfolk list and we're forwarding it on for greater exposure. Steve and Bunny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley Cardiel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:48 AM Subject: POWEL - PITMAN Family Photograph > I've "rescued" an old photograph of Cara POWEL taken at the J.H. Faber > Studio in Norfolk, Virginia. I would guess that the photograph was taken in > the 1890's and that Cara was probably in her late teens or early 20's at the > time. In addition to her name it is noted "Married Allic or Allex PITMAN", > the first name is hard to read. > > In addition to this photograph I also recovered the following photographs > from the same source: > > *Mr. & Mrs. George G. JOHNSTOWN, taken at the King Studio in Washington DC, > probably in the 1890's with the couple appearing to be in their 20's at the > time > *Mrs. A.F. GILSON in her garden at Rescue, Virginia, probably taken in the > 1880's, she appears to be in her 50's or 60's at the time > *John ISLIN, taken at the Tennant Studio in Newport News, Virginia, notes > he is son of Ben ISLIN > > Don't know how these people are connected, however, the handwritten > notations made on each was certainly made by the same hand. I'm hoping to > locate someone from these families so that the photographs can be returned > to family. If you are a member of one of these families or know someone who > might be, please contact me. > > Thanks, > Shelley > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Good Morning and Happy Independence Day (almost!)! I am looking for Emmett Lee Betts who died in the 1930's.  He had lived for several decades in Lunenburg County, Pleasant Grove District.  This is right next to Prince Edward County and Charlotte County.  Since he had a lot of relatives in Prince Edward Co., I think he could have attended church there and perhaps been buried there. Does anyone have knowledge of this Betts and perhaps where I could find him buried along with his wife Allie M. (maiden name unknown) Betts? Thanks, Karen in GA

The LVA site has some digital records in a card system. I know the Confederate soldiers is one. Just go to the LVA web site and click on what we have then whatever general subject you are researching. I clicked on military records and then on Confederate pension rolls veterans and widows electronic card index. The LVA site is www.lva.lib.va.us and just go from there. It's a great site to spend time browsing. Edith In a message dated 7/2/03 1:24:10 PM, [email protected] writes: << I thank all of you that have sent me the links to Va. Records... now I have to ask for another one... sorry.... it is Va. Records, but the link shows a list of names...and I "think" it has a card system...you go thur the cards.... or this could be two different links... help >>

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Hi Diane, This may (or may not) be what you are seeking. Go to: http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/ There are numerous categories here, but you are probably interested in the Archives and Manuscripts Catalog. Click on that link. This leads you a search page. Type in the family name you researching in the word or phrase field and select "keyword" under search type. This will generate a "card catalog" format listing of the items in their Archives and Manuscripts collection in which that family name appears. Best regards, Rob > From: "Diane" <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 13:23:15 -0400 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Re: Need link to Va. Records > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 11:23:21 -0600 > > I thank all of you that have sent me the links to Va. Records... now I have to > ask for another one... sorry.... it is Va. Records, but the link shows a list > of names...and I "think" it has a card system...you go thur the cards.... or > this could be two different links... help! > Diane > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Diane > To: [email protected] ; [email protected] ; > [email protected] ; [email protected] ; > [email protected] ; [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 8:18 PM > Subject: Need link to Va. Records > > > Hi, > I need the link to Va. Records that are online... can't remember the name of > it ): but you can read and scan the records on land deeds.. can anyone out > there help? > Diane > > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > Always Keep Your Anti Virus Program Updated Regularly. > USGW Archives Pension Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pensions/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I thank all of you that have sent me the links to Va. Records... now I have to ask for another one... sorry.... it is Va. Records, but the link shows a list of names...and I "think" it has a card system...you go thur the cards.... or this could be two different links... help! Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Diane To: [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 8:18 PM Subject: Need link to Va. Records Hi, I need the link to Va. Records that are online... can't remember the name of it ): but you can read and scan the records on land deeds.. can anyone out there help? Diane

I, for one, Diane, do not understand what you are asking..................... Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: Diane To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 12:23 PM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Re: Need link to Va. Records I thank all of you that have sent me the links to Va. Records... now I have to ask for another one... sorry.... it is Va. Records, but the link shows a list of names...and I "think" it has a card system...you go thur the cards.... or this could be two different links... help! Diane