Those of you interested in the Hugenots will find this interesting. A TALE OF THE HUGUENOTS OR MEMOIRS OF A FRENCH REFUGEE FAMILY TRANSLATED AND COMPILED FROM THE ORINGINAL MANUSCRIPTS OF JAMES FONTAINE. <A HREF="http://stithvalley.com/ancestry/fontaine/memcarol.htm">http://stithvalley.com/ancestry/fontaine/memcarol.htm</A>

FYI to the Left Coasters, as in California, Oregon, Washington, Mexico, this book is available at Sutro Library in SF per their catalog entries below: S Alberts [email protected] 1.. Fontaine, Jacques, b. 1658. Memoirs of a Huguenot family [microform] / tr. and comp. from the original autobiography of the Rev. James Fontaine, and other family manuscripts; comprising an original journal of travels in Virginia, New York, etc., in 1715 and 1716 by Ann Maury. With an appendix, containing a translation of the Edict of Nantes, the Edict of revocation, and other interesting historical documents. New York : G.P. Putnam & Co., 1853. California State Library Sutro Library (RR) b.. Display Full Record Add to My List Request This Title Fontaine, James, b. 1658. Memoirs of a Huguenot family / Translated and compiled from the original autobiography of the Rev. James Fontaine, and other family mauscripts; comprising an original journal of travels in Virginia, New York, etc., in 1715 and 1716, by Ann Maury. With an appendix, containing a translation of the Edict of Nantes, the Edict of revocation, and other interesting historical documents. Baltimore : Genealogical Pub. Co., 1967 (1973 printing) California State Library Sutro Library (RR) c.. Display Full Record Add to My List Request This Title Fontaine, James, b. 1658. Memoirs of a Huguenot family, tr. and comp. from the original autobiography of Rev. James Fontaine, and other family manuscripts; comprising an original journal of travels in Viginia, New York, etc., in 1715 and 1716. By Ann Maury. With an appendix containing a translationof the Edict of Nantes, the Edict of revocation, and other interesting historical documents. printed from the original edition of 1852. New York, G. P. Putnam & co., 1853. California State Library Sutro Library (RR) ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 5:49 AM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Memoirs of a Huguenot Family > I just pulled my "version" on this book and it is not the one send by Teryna. > > Memoirs of a Huguenot Family > Translated and compiled for the original autobiography of the > Reverend James Fontaine > > This book was written by Ann Maury, a granddaughter or great granddaughter. > It was originally published in 1853. > > >From my understanding, Ann did not do the translating. She had it done and > she also had certain words changed to be more genteel and worthy of a lady of > her time. > > Dianne's book is from the same original manuscript but reads much different > but with basically the same meaning. Dianne went to France and England a > number of times doing research for her translation. > > I cannot promise you will find your Huguenot ancestors mentioned among the > Fontaine work but I can assure you that this is probably the number one book > used in Huguenot research by scholars as it was written by those who experienced > this life. You will certainly have a greater appreciation of what your > Huguenot ancestor experienced. > > Gale > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > Rootsweb Acceptable Use Policy forbids posting copyrighted material which you do not own to Rootsweb Lists. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Ther were lots of Flournoys here in Charlotte County, VA. Also Fuquas who I believe were Huguenots. Kathy Liston ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Huguenot > Our Huguenots were the Flournoy (Fleurnois) family from Lyons. They went >>

Here are two Huguenot sites you might be interested in. Huguenots of Manakin Home Page <A HREF="http://www.huguenot-manakin.org/">http://www.huguenot-manakin.org/</A> and The National Huguenot Society <A HREF="http://www.huguenot.netnation.com/general/">http://www.huguenot.netnation.com/general/</A>

I'm also interested in the Huguenot information because of the Bernard family. Edith In a message dated 7/8/03 8:08:36 PM, [email protected] writes: << The Huguenot information is interesting to me also. >>

Doris, and all, The Huguenot information is interesting to me also. Our Gill line originally lived in the Manakin Town area. Although we are now Gill, when they arrived, it was Guille. I found the family in London in 1685, awaiting passage to America. However, I think this family did come over as servants. I have always thought that perhaps one of our Gills/Guilles married a Flournoy, because we have a woman named Flournoy Jane Gill. She was born in 1834, and was the daughter of Phillip Gill, Jr. Phillip Gill Sr. (his father) came from Chesterfield Co., VA. Does anyone know of a marriage between the Gill/Guille family in that area to a Flournoy? Sue Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Huguenot > Our Huguenots were the Flournoy (Fleurnois) family from Lyons. They went > first to Geneva, Switzerland; then some of them come to VA. > They were Gemologists.....they designed and sold jewelry. It can be easily > assumed that they worked in both gold and silver, not only in Europe, but > also in VA. They also traveled back and forth often and remained in touch > with thier European relatives for several generations. >

Our Huguenots were the Flournoy (Fleurnois) family from Lyons. They went first to Geneva, Switzerland; then some of them come to VA. They were Gemologists.....they designed and sold jewelry. It can be easily assumed that they worked in both gold and silver, not only in Europe, but also in VA. They also traveled back and forth often and remained in touch with thier European relatives for several generations. Doris....A Texan in Georgia..... still shaking the family tree and dodging the nuts after 30+ years!!! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.497 / Virus Database: 296 - Release Date: 7/4/2003

Dear Georgia and all, This should be helpful to all who seek information about their Huguenot ancestors. Posted: June 4, 2003 Huguenot Library Now at NSDAR Eric Grundset, DAR Library Director, recently announced that the DAR Library had signed an agreement with the National Huguenot Society to be the custodian of that society's important collection of volumes, which catalog the history of the French Huguenots in America. Regards, Margaret

Elizabeth City Edition, Mr. George W. Dey, Mr. George Day JR., Miss Mary Dey have returned to their home in  Bute Street after spending the summer at Willoughby beach. __________________________________________________ Mrs. J. Mac Henderson will leave today to visit Dr. Anne Humphrey's in FREDERICKSBURG. ________________________________________________ Mrs. Guy Davis, who has been visiting her mother, Mrs. Hunter McGuire, in East Grace Street, Richmond has returned home. ___________________________________________________________ Miss Bessie Murray has returned from a visit to Mrs. Hunter in King George and also Miss Pat Morris in Washington. ______________________________________________- Miss Katherine Pinner, of Suffolk is the guest of Miss Margaret Van Patten, at Cape Henry. _________________________________________________-- Mrs. Allen & Miss Louise Allen of Richmond who have been the guests of Mrs. Charles Wood in Raleigh Ave, left yesterday evening for Waynesboro, N.C. ______________________________________________________ Mr. E.J. Rudyard Wigg returned yesterday from a northern business trip. Mr. and Mrs. Meyer Koteen and daughter, Violet page, returned to the city yesterday from 3 months visit to Mrs. Koteen's parents, Mr. and Mrs. Shapero, in Charlottesville, and are no occupying their new home, 310 Raleigh Avenue. Mrs. G. L. Whitehurst and daughter, Miss Georgia Whitehurst, have returned from months stay in NY. Mrs. Va. Taylor is visiting Mrs. George Whitehurst in Lafayette park Residence. ______________________________________________________________________ Miss Miriam Selby oldest daughter of Mrs. and Mrs. W. Selby of 1023 Moran Ave, and Joseph Dew were quiet married at the home of the bride's parents, yesterday afternoon at 6:30pm. Rev. J. W. M. Taylor pastor of the Port Norfolk Baptist church, officiating. Mr. and Mrs. Dew left on the Southern last night for a bridal trip to Asheville. ____________________________________________ Miss Chloe Lee Gresham, daughter of Rev. W.Q.A. Gresham, of Morehead City, N.C. and William Herbert Jennings were married last night at 8pm at the residence of the bride's sister Mrs. Charles Russell on Pinner Avenue, Pinners Point, Rev. J. W. M. Taylor Pastor of the Port Norfolk Baptist church, officiated. Mr. and Mrs Jennings will reside in Port Norfolk.    Hope it's interesting, Kristina

Great information, Gale. Thanks. In addition, for those interested in the architecture of early homes, the French/Huguenot influence was brought by those fine and artistic people, was apparent throughout the 18th Century, and today very early examples may be seen in "The Mulberry" in Berkeley Co. (with its Mansard roof) and in "Brick House" on Edisto Island (built c1725). It might also be added that not only were the Huguenots welcomed and accepted as citizens, as early as 1686 Fitzhugh was anxious to lease to a group who wanted to come here an enormous tract of his land in the Northern Neck, and guaranteed that he would see to their citizenship at the rate of L3 person (about 180.00 now). See Bruce, "Economic History of VA in the 17th-Century" (index generally). As Gale also said, the prominent Fontaines were here among the first of those who came. (see "Memoirs of a Huguenot Family" which volume is very intersting and broad in its scope and is available used very frequently for $20.00 to $50.00. Paul

Hi Georgia, The Huguenot, French Protestants, were never servants. These Frenchmen left their country rather than be forced to follow the Catholic faith of the King. It was decreed that all French citizens would be Catholic and those who were not were martyred. My ancestor Jacque da la Fontaine was a protestant minister and he and his wife were killed in the night in 1500. Their two sons escaped and lived off the land being helped by other protestants. The Huguenots left France to stay alive. Some went to Belgium and some to other European counties. Many wound up in England. The Fountaines stayed in England for several generations before coming to America. The immigrant Fontaine was a minister and was extremely well read. Those Huguenots who first came to VA did so with the promise of land. The King of England wanted to get people like the Huguenots to settle here to secure this country for England. People who had skills and talents and would settle and remain here. The problem is, the Virginians who lived on the coast did not want to give up their lands and forced these brave French men and women up the James River to Manakin or Manakintowne. There is a church and museum that still is there. The colony almost all died that first winter. The Indians did help them by giving them food and showing them basic farming skills. These French people were not farmers. They were artisans, they made lace and shoes, etc. and were extremely talented. They were use to living in cities and being able to work in their trade and buy the foods they needed. But they did survive. They did learn to farm and also practice their talents. And they were free to practice their protestant faith. They were able to own land from the beginning. They were promised land by the King. And they did obtain the rights to be a citizen of VA. This is probably more than any of you wished to know. And I apologize if I have an error within as I am typing this off the top of my head at work with no records to pull. Gale

I found the article interesting on the Huguenots. I am a Ramey/Remy descendant with roots in the Southside and Westmoreland co. Va. I am also a Kimbler descendant and the story among some of the family was that the first Kimblers over here got their land from the King of England. How many groups got their land that way in the American colonies? My Kimblers lived around Wythe co. Va. also. Anyone that has any information on the Rameys, Kimblers or Messicks who lived in the eastern shore of Maryland, lower Delaware and possibly lower Virginia and Rockingham co. Va. I would like to hear from very much. Duane McKenzie. mailto:[email protected]

The French were represented among the early inhabitants of Lunenburg by such families as the Fontaines, the Maurys, the LeGrands and the Michauxs. These French were the Huguenots who from the Massacre of St. Bartholomew to and after the Revocation of the Edict of Nantes suffered most infamous outrages, which forced hundreds of thousands to flee from that country. Of these Huguenots thus driven from France, John Jay said they "carried industry, intelligence and prosperity, light, truth and happiness to other lands, including our own". Ref: Address before the Huguenot Society of America, at NY October 22, 1885. No inconsiderable part of these French Protestants finally came to Virginia, and a very considerable number of their descendants found their homes in ancient Lunenburg. The part which the Fontaines and the Maurys have had in the history of the Huguenot Emigration, a history which has been quite well written, cannot for lack of space be repeated here. Almost without exception, these refugees were persons of excellent qualities, peaceable citizens, and many rose to stations of very high importance. OLD FREE STATE.... Margaret

St. Paul's Vestry Book 1706-1786 Early in this book Thomas Harris is mentioned as being exempted from paying Public and County Levy tax plus exempted from paying the parish levy. Later in 1716 he assisted in clearing the road from Stone Horse Cr. to Stony Run. Then later from 1724-36, the vestry was paying someone (in Tobacco) to "keep" him. The last two entries in that time period shows he was in charge of orphans and then was an "overseer" for processioning of land. I keep thinking he was exempted from paying tax because of his age--but he seems to be in later years quite active in other issues unless, of course, there is more than one Thomas Harris in that time period. For what reason(s) would he be given a special privilege to be "exempt"? The only "exempt" status I'm aware of in this time period is the Huguenot "French Lands" issue. Carol (thanking those whose expertise is greatly appreciated)

Can anyone tell me when the Huguenots were first given status in Virginia so that they could purchase land, serve on juries, etc. And whether or not there is a list of those who very granted "citizenship" as an English subject. Or were they granted citizenship when they were brought here as servents. I am sure that I am not asking the proper questions, but perhaps someone will understand what I am asking. Thank you in advance. Georgia Walsh

Mac: I am so sorry Barbara is having trouble again. It may be that you need to be preparing your heart for a long siege of grief. Not a happy thought but it happens to all of us; you are in good company. My heart goes out to you as I know the difficulty of seeing someone you love slip away a day at a time, an event at a time. It is tough. Our daughter tells us that her lab work is improving so the medications she is on are reducing the effects of the disease. It has no diagnosis but at least they have ruled out the neurological diseases for the time being. We hope they can get whatever disease this is under control before she loses her eyesight. That is the potential danger of not getting it under control. She has a serious eye problem from all of this. We all pray for guidance and endurance so we can do what can be done. Take care Mac. Our prayers are there for both of you. Loretta ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:01 AM Subject: VA-SOUTHSIDE-D Digest V03 #144

Oh, they could and did gain as many as they could afford or gain through chicanery. :-) ***Could an individual in 1720'ish colonial Virginia receive more than one land patent? Or were they just allowed one patent per person? Thank you. Carol Barron

I've search at length on google trying to find an answer to a question regarding land patents 1720'ish time period and cannot find the answer--here is the question: Could an individual in 1720'ish colonial Virginia receive more than one land patent? Or were they just allowed one patent per person? Thank you. Carol Barron

BlankList inactive, someone says???????? Lists become active by reason of interesting questions and documented answers that will benefit us ALL, and also by telling us what surname information you seek and then speaking of that surname off list. But, that thought carries with it the need that ALL who have interesting responses speak up. Do not lay back, say or explain nothing, then be critical of others who are willing to venture into the morass. None of us knows very much, and yet we all know something that will benefit others. Paul

A question has been asked as to why there would be glass bottles of oil found in east coast shipwrecks of the Civil War era. In WV and western PA, there were and are yet to be found oil wells that produce extremely fine and highly volatile petroleum, many so fine and pure that such can be put directly in your automobile, used as sewing machine or penetrating oil, and used as a lubricant for lathes and bearing surfaces generally. It also was and yet is used widely for skin afflictions (eczema, etc.), itches, bug bites, "eruptions", and the like. Indeed, many women have for now 150+ years used that high grade oil to provide sheen and to clean their hair. It kills all manner of itchy scalp, bugs, and other scalp surface infections and makes their hair truly glisten. I regularly supplied a couple of nice old ladies when I was in the oil business up there 35 years ago and had it available from some of my well-owning friends. Some wells even have yellow and pink very pure and crystal clear oil. It was known by the early Indians (even before the 18th century) and widely known to settlers after Drake's PA discovery well of 1858/9. It should come as no surprise that bottles of it were carried on ships and kept in medicine cabinets of the Civil War years. Paul