OOPS!! I forgot to tell where the graves are located! I think I remembered everything but my brain that day. I have listed everything again though. Location of the graves: Birch Creek Road, Keeling, Pittsylvania Co., VA Directions: from Danville: from 29 north, take right on Malmason at stop light after the two modular home dealers (I forget their names) if you hit the Chatham exit you've gone too far from Malmason, take left on Keeling at the Swan Lake campground sign Keeling will lead you to 360, take a left from 360 turn right on Birch Creek Rd (st rd 713 if the sign is down again) another way: from 58 east, pass airport, turn left onto st rd 729 at Airport Coin Laundry on 729, about 10-12 miles, turn left on Birch Creek Rd on Birch Creek, keep going until past bridge (if you hit 360 you've gone too far) graves are off a long dirt road on the east side of Birch Creek Rd. dirt road is marked by two white pillars marked with house numbers 1935 and 1939 go down the dirt road until you have passed the two houses on the right of the dirt road the graves are approx 300 yards down from the second house on the right the graves are covered by weeds pretty badly right now ( I know where they are and I had to hunt a few minutes) I had to knock the weeds down from around the stones to photograph them here's what is on the stones again (medium sized stone) Raleigh Ashby Dawson son of Spencer & Lizzie Dawson May 9, 1911 Nov 7, 1947 Gone but not forgotten (medium sized stone) Virginia E. Dawson Mar 19, 1916 June 16, 1918 Not dead but sleepeth (metal marker from Wrenn Yeatts funeral home) Clara Mae Pruitt 1931-1931 (small stone) Wade Maynard Hall son of Mr & Mrs G.L. Hall Oct 3, 1942 I forgot to add last time that Virginia Dawson and Wad Hall's graves have small footstones with initials on them. Sorry for being a dunderhead :) --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search

I don't know if anyone needs these, but when I went on my walk today I finally remembered my paper, pen, and camera. There is a small graveyard on the property adjacent to mine, and I thougt someone might want them. Will give directions and eventually photographs to whoever wants them. This is what was on the tombstones: (medium sized stone) Raleigh Ashby Dawson son of Spencer & Lizzie Dawson May 9, 1911 Nov 7, 1947 Gone but not forgotten (medium sized stone) Virginia E. Dawson Mar 19, 1916 June 16, 1918 Not dead but sleepeth (metal marker from Wrenn Yeatts funeral home) Clara Mae Pruitt 1931-1931 (small stone) Wade Maynard Hall son of Mr & Mrs G.L. Hall Oct 3, 1942 Feel free to contact me. There are a couple of other small graveyards in the immediate area that I plan to photograph and transcribe. Victoria Hanks --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search

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In a message dated 9/17/2003 10:07:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > This is an interesting site for the Civil War era in Augusta and Franklin > Counties, Virginia. > > http://valley.vcdh.virginia.edu/lettersp1.html > > Harold, Thanks for reminding me of the University of Virginia's great website comparing the experiences of two counties before, during and after the Civil War. It is called Valley of the Shadow...However...the two counties compared, with similar demographics are one in a southern Augusta Co. Virginia, and the other northern -- Franklin Co. Pennsylvania (not Virginia). The Homepage is here: http://valley.vcdh.virginia.edu/choosepart.html Everyone enjoy! Janet Hunter

This is an interesting site for the Civil War era in Augusta and Franklin Counties, Virginia. http://valley.vcdh.virginia.edu/lettersp1.html _______________________________________________ =======All outgoing emails are scanned by Symantec Anti Virus=====================

Glenna, Cub Creek is nowhere near the fork of the Meherrin. Cub Creek is located just west of the center of Charlotte County, and feeds into the Staunton River (known as the Roanoke in other counties). Get a map of Virginia that shows some detail in the counties --- a Triple AAA atlas will do. Locate Charlotte Court House. Follow State Route 40 west from CCH and you'll see the town of Phenix. Just west of Phenix is Cub Creek, the large creek running north-south. Cub Creek Church (and the Caldwell Settlement) was located due south of Phenix and SR 40 on route 619. Hope this helps. Kathy in Charlotte County ----- Original Message ----- From: "KM5TQ" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 8:20 PM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] CALDWELL SETTLEMENT AT CUB CREEK IN CHAROLETTE VA > Hi to everyone, > > I have tried to find a geographical map showing the exact location of Cub Creek,but,I have not been able to find anything but the Fork of the Meherrine River. > Can someone tell me where Cub Creek is geographical located? > > Thank you for any help, > Glenna > [email protected] > [email protected] > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb Archives Census Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi to everyone, I have tried to find a geographical map showing the exact location of Cub Creek,but,I have not been able to find anything but the Fork of the Meherrine River. Can someone tell me where Cub Creek is geographical located? Thank you for any help, Glenna [email protected] [email protected]

Mickey, I think there are numerous reasons. From my example it appears the person giving the info in the 1st. location was *not* one of the family. I'm sure family would have known Milly's given name! They were probably living in this area while working for someone in the neighborhood but *usually* lived at the other location. Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mildred "Mickey" Fournier" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 4:29 PM Subject: RE: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Duplicate census entries > I have ancestors who were counted twice in 1830. They were enumerated in > one county just before they left and in the other almost as soon as they > arrived. Could that explain it? > > Mickey

I have ancestors who were counted twice in 1830. They were enumerated in one county just before they left and in the other almost as soon as they arrived. Could that explain it? Mickey -----Original Message----- From: Joy King [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 3:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Duplicate census entries This subject came up last year on the VA-ROOTS list. I sent the following example and have seen others as well. 1860 CENSUS HENDERSON CO., NC 17 Aug 1860 P.O. Cherry Field #1340/1340 THOMAS SIGEMORE 25 M day Laborer SC Mrs. 25 F WILLIAM 23 M day Laborer Listed between Nancy TRUMEL & Polly THRIFT P.O. Davidsons River 22 Aug 1860 #1458/1458 THO SIZEMORE 27 M day Laborer Milly 24 F WILLIAM 23 M day Laborer Listed between Aaron BANKS & James JONES Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Myron E. Williams" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] BEAVERS > I'll concede that both having a son Edward 12 years old stretches > coincidence a bit far. > > This intrigues me. Please post the census page & household numbers so I > can look them up. > > Myron E. Williams ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== USGenWeb Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb Do Not Flame other Members on List. If you have problems or concerns with list posts, contact the List Administrator. [email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This subject came up last year on the VA-ROOTS list. I sent the following example and have seen others as well. 1860 CENSUS HENDERSON CO., NC 17 Aug 1860 P.O. Cherry Field #1340/1340 THOMAS SIGEMORE 25 M day Laborer SC Mrs. 25 F WILLIAM 23 M day Laborer Listed between Nancy TRUMEL & Polly THRIFT P.O. Davidsons River 22 Aug 1860 #1458/1458 THO SIZEMORE 27 M day Laborer Milly 24 F WILLIAM 23 M day Laborer Listed between Aaron BANKS & James JONES Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Myron E. Williams" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] BEAVERS > I'll concede that both having a son Edward 12 years old stretches > coincidence a bit far. > > This intrigues me. Please post the census page & household numbers so I > can look them up. > > Myron E. Williams

Della, the information from census records can be confusing sometimes. It depends on whom the census taker (back then door to door) interviewed at the residence. I had an ancestor who was suddenly six years younger than the census taken ten years before. Also, if a child gives the information, they're often wrong. Margaret might have been called "Mary" for short. He may have owned two properties, giving family names each census interview. Lots of things could have happened.

I'll concede that both having a son Edward 12 years old stretches coincidence a bit far. This intrigues me. Please post the census page & household numbers so I can look them up. Myron E. Williams Della Beaver wrote: >I don't think so. Both are 45. Both have a 12 year old son named Edward. >Seems to me, they may be the same person. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Myron E. Williams" <[email protected]> >To: "Della Beaver" <[email protected]> >Cc: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:04 AM >Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] BEAVERS > > > > >>Della: >> >>The easiest explanation would seem to be that there were two Woodson >>Beavers. Cousins perhaps? How much do you know of your great >>grandfather's parents and uncles and aunts? >> >>Myron E. Williams >>Crossville, TN >> >>Della Beaver wrote: >> >> >> >>>I have found my great-grandfather, Woodson Beavers, living in Danville, >>> >>> >Pittsylvania, VA in the 1870 census. He is living with my >great-grandmother, Margaret and my grandfather, Edward. My problem is I >also found him in Pittsylvania County, in 1870, living with a Mary (wife), >Mary (daughter) and Edward (son). I am not sure what to make of this. Can >anyone help? > > >>>Also, where can I look for birth and death records. He was born in >>> >>> >approximately 1825. I don't know when he died. > > >>>==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== >>>USGenWeb Archives Census Project >>>http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/ >>> >>>============================== >>>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >>> >>> >go to: > > >>>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > >

I don't think so. Both are 45. Both have a 12 year old son named Edward. Seems to me, they may be the same person. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Myron E. Williams" <[email protected]> To: "Della Beaver" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] BEAVERS > Della: > > The easiest explanation would seem to be that there were two Woodson > Beavers. Cousins perhaps? How much do you know of your great > grandfather's parents and uncles and aunts? > > Myron E. Williams > Crossville, TN > > Della Beaver wrote: > > >I have found my great-grandfather, Woodson Beavers, living in Danville, Pittsylvania, VA in the 1870 census. He is living with my great-grandmother, Margaret and my grandfather, Edward. My problem is I also found him in Pittsylvania County, in 1870, living with a Mary (wife), Mary (daughter) and Edward (son). I am not sure what to make of this. Can anyone help? > > > >Also, where can I look for birth and death records. He was born in approximately 1825. I don't know when he died. > > > > > >==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > >USGenWeb Archives Census Project > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/ > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > >

Della: The easiest explanation would seem to be that there were two Woodson Beavers. Cousins perhaps? How much do you know of your great grandfather's parents and uncles and aunts? Myron E. Williams Crossville, TN Della Beaver wrote: >I have found my great-grandfather, Woodson Beavers, living in Danville, Pittsylvania, VA in the 1870 census. He is living with my great-grandmother, Margaret and my grandfather, Edward. My problem is I also found him in Pittsylvania County, in 1870, living with a Mary (wife), Mary (daughter) and Edward (son). I am not sure what to make of this. Can anyone help? > >Also, where can I look for birth and death records. He was born in approximately 1825. I don't know when he died. > > >==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== >USGenWeb Archives Census Project >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

I have found my great-grandfather, Woodson Beavers, living in Danville, Pittsylvania, VA in the 1870 census. He is living with my great-grandmother, Margaret and my grandfather, Edward. My problem is I also found him in Pittsylvania County, in 1870, living with a Mary (wife), Mary (daughter) and Edward (son). I am not sure what to make of this. Can anyone help? Also, where can I look for birth and death records. He was born in approximately 1825. I don't know when he died.

Cynthia, I was looking at the original hardcopy tax records in Charlotte County this week and noted the letters you mention. Although they look like "sf," they are actually "Lf" and in some cases "Lfree." This stands for Land free and is used to denote people that paid taxes on personal property but no longer owned land. They are not found in the land books. Another combination seen is Fn" or simply "F" to denote a free negro. Where county names are noted it indicates the individual owned taxable property (real, personal, or both) in Charlotte but actually resided in the noted county. Hope this helps! Kathy Liston ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cynthia Dahl" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 12:12 PM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Charlotte Co. tax records > When looking at the 1829 and 1830 Charlotte Co. Personal Property Tax > records I noticed that my John Thompson had the letters "sf" after his name > in parenthesis. When I looked through the entire record I noted that others > also had letters or names in parenthesis, generally "P.E." Prince Edward? > or spelled out "Halifax" or "Mecklenburg". > > Does anyone have an idea of what "sf" would stand for? > > I've scanned a few and put them on my web site at > > http://www.deschool.org/cynthia/ > > Thanks!!! > > Cynthia Dahl >

Sorry; the URL did not go; here it is again. Paul Here is the very fine Rutgers University genealogy site about which several have inquired. Paul http://www.geisheimer.org/info/gene/miscrutg.htm

Here is the very fine Rutgers University genealogy site about which several have inquired. Paul

This message is for Molly P. I lost your e-mail address. That film we talked about is at the Bellevue LDS - listed under my name. Cynthia A. Wilson Seattle, WA ************************************ 3rd Annual West Coast Summit on African American Genealogy October 18, 2003 Patriotic Hall - Los Angeles, CA Keynote Speaker: Tony Burroughs Registration: $60 Contact: [email protected] ************************************ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

List, For those interested. Here is a URL for the site http://spec.lib.vt.edu/specgen/msguide/mgintro.htm Harold