Hi, I'm not up on all the various Johnsons of Lunenburg Co who descend from Michael of Goochland and previously Henrico. Nor am I up on all those who aren't descended from him. But I will toss my few Johnsons into the ring to be counted. I descend from David Johnson, son of Joseph (son of Michael), who was born prob. bet 1730-1740 in, I would guess, Goochland Co. David shows up as an adult in court records in the late 1750s. He appears to have been married twice. I have no idea who his first wife was, but he seems to have had three children who survived to adulthood from that marriage: Mary, b about 1755, Morris, b about 1762, and Joshua, b bet 1766-1770. David goes in and out of tax records in Lunenburg Co and once turns up in Halifax Co. He owned land he bought from Josiah Shipp on Crupper Run, Lunenburg Co, which is right by the Coxes, Estes, and Chandlers and not far from the land of Joseph Johnson. Crupper Run seems to be west of the Middle Fork of the Meherrin River and was at one time called Robertson's Fork. David's second wife was called Rachel. She is the mother of Sarah, Hester, Charity, Samuel, Anny and Frances. The youngest of these children, Frances, was born in 1782, according to her record in the 1850 census in South Carolina. David and family seem to have left VA about 1787 and ended up in Edgefield District South Carolina by 1790 (he is enumerated in the census there). He died in 1797 in Edgefield. His wife, Rachel, died a year later. Morris seems to have come to Edgefield by the time his father died, but did not accompany the family. Not sure when Joshua arrived. All the sons were there in the first part of the 1800s. I have just recently had a little luck tracking down, I think, some of the descendants of his son, Samuel. I have a little information on the descendants of his other children and quite a lot on the family of his daughter, Anny, who is in my direct line. A number of the collateral relatives to this line either ended up in or passed through Edgefield, SC. Would be happy to share information with anyone who is researching this or collateral lines. Barbara Schenck

I don't think there's one in Texas or Colorado. Never heard of one, anyway.

It is called an Affidavit of Heirship in Texas. Marilyn

In a message dated 10/21/2003 9:03:55 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Paul, <<Would the below statement be true for most states. Quan Affidavit Of Descent>> I wish. I have never seen an affidavit of descent in Tennessee. Sara Binkley Tarpley

One of the landowners mentioned in this deed is Robert Liverett. He is brother or father to my Thomas Liverett who is one of the named witnesses of the Puryear to Hightower deed in 1770 sent in an earlier message today. The Robert Liverett who received in 1766 a land grant of 1550 acres in Lunenburg County is the father of Thomas Liverett living in Lunenburg County VA in 1770. I will provide documentation upon request. Can anyone shed light on the name of the parents of this Robert Liverett in 1766? Charlotte Tucker Tuscaloosa, AL -------------------------- This Indenture made this tenth day of May in the year of our Lord Christ One Thousand seven Hundred and Sixty four Between William Ussery and his wife Judith of the one part of the County of Orange & Province of North Carolina and John Hightower, Jr. of the other part of the County of Amelia Witnesseth that the said Wm Ussery and Judah his wife for and in consideration of the sum of one hundred pounds current money of Virginia to them in hand paid by the said John Hightower Jr. the receipt of which they the sd William Ussry and Judith his wife doth bargain sell Aliena. ... Enfeoff and confirm and by these presents doth acknowledge have bargained sold alienated enfeoffed and confirm unto the said John Hightower Jr. his heirs Exr or assigns one certain tract or parcel of land lying and being in the County of Lunenburg containing three hundred and twenty five acres be the same more or less Beginning at a white Oak on Crooked run below the plantation the sd Usry formerly lived a! t thence up the said Run as it meanders to a poplar on the run thence to a Corner red oak thence to corner maple on John Usrys line on his Spring Branch thence up the said Branch as it meanders to a corner on the head of the said branch thence to a corner red oak thence to a corner red oak on Robert Liveretts line then along his line to a corner Hicory on the sd line thence to a corner red oak on Mrs. Agnes Mays line thence along her line to a corner post oak on the sd line thence to a corner pine on Clarksons line thence along the sd line to the beginning with all and every of the appurtenances thereunto belonging to him the said John Hightower, Jr. his heirs or assigns forever and the said Wm Usry and Judith his wife doth covenant and agree with the said John Hightower his heirs and assigns that they the sd Wm Usry and Judith his wife their heirs Exrs and administrators shall by these presents warrant and will forever defend the said fore granted land with all the appurten! ances belonging unto him the said John Hightower his heirs or assigns from the Claim challenge & demand of them the sd Wm Usry and Judith his wife their heirs Exrs adms and from the claim challenge or demands of any other person or persons whatsoever and the said Wm Usry and Judith his wife shall and will forever by these Presents warrant and defend the said foregranted land with all the appurtenances thereunto belonging to him the said John Hightower hie heirs Exrs or assigns in witness where of they the said Wm Usry and Judith his wife hath to these presents set their hands and seals the day and year above written. Signed Sealed & Delivered in the presence of - - - - William, V his mark, Usry Memorandum that quiet and peaceable possession and delivery of Seison was given and granted to John Hightower, Jr. by William Usry the tenth day of May 1764 At a court Held for Lunenburg County the 10th day of May 1764 William Ussery acknowledged this deed indents and the memorandum of livery of Seisen thereon ... which were admitted to record. Test. Wm. Taylor CLC Lunenburg County DB 8 Part I, 82, 83. ===================================================================== Transcribed by Charlotte G. Tucker, June 30, 2000.

I have quite a few Lunenburg County Virginia deed transcriptions within my files. So..... in response to G. Lee Hearl to "... wake up!" ... I submit the deed below. One of the witnesses, Thomas Liverett, is my ancestor. I welcome an exchange of information on the Liverett line. Charlotte Tucker Tuscaloosa, AL ------------------------------ This Indenture made this fourteenth day of September one thousand seven hundred and seventy between William Puryear of the province of North Carolina and County of Granville of the one part and John Hightower of the Province of Virginia and County of Lunenburg of the other part witnesseth that the said William Puryear for and in consideration of the sum of four hundred pounds current money of Virginia to him in hand paid the receipt whereof he doth hereby acknowledge and himself therewith fully satisfied hath granted bargained sold aleined and confirmed and by these presents for himself and his heirs doth grant,bargain sell alien and confirm unto the said John Hightower his heirs and assigns forever, one certain tract or parcel of land containing by estimation one hundred acres be the same more or less situate lying and being the county of Lunenburg and province of Virginia on a branch of Hounds Creek and bounded as follows Viz Beginning at the mouth of a branch on Hayses li! ne at a beach thence up the said branch to the head to a poplar thence a straight line to the Road, thence up the said road as it meanders to Hayses line on a Red oak, then along Hayses line to the Beginning with all and every the ... appurtances thereunto belonging unto him the said John Hightower his heirs executors forever the said William Puryear for himself his heirs executors administrators and assigns ... and assigns shall and will forever defend from him the said William Puryear his heirs executors administrators or assigns and form the challenge claim and demand of any person or persons whatsoever In witness whereof the said William Puryear hath hereunto set his hand and seal the day and year above written. William Puryear (seal) Signed, Sealed Delivered in ...William, X, his mark Gill, Senr. , William Gill, Jr. Benj. Smith, Joseph Hightower, James Edings, Thomas Liverett, Stith Hardaway ?Penney?, [an 'N' written backward] his mark, Howlett At a Court held for Lunenburg County the 9th day of May 1771. The within written indenture was proved by the oaths of three of the witnesses thereto examined ... and ordered to be recorded. Teste, Wm. Taylor CLC. Lunenburg County Virginia Deed Book 12, page 11,12 ===================================================================== Transcribed by Charlotte G. Tucker, June 30, 2000.

Note of Interest:: William Johnson patented Land in 1779 on Turkey Cocke Creek and would have to be 21 years of age:: so born before 1758::: Same age as Naum if I remember Right:: Naum- Naham was on 1785 Census of AMelia CO. age would be 21 so born before 1764) AC Johnson is a name of interest as it was said by some one I had corresponded with several years ago that an AC JOhnson in Kentucky was related to my Hudson Johnson. BUt they never got Back to me with any more info as they were moving and their Records were packed up. Also of Note On tax lists via deeds the Johnson, Hatcher, Wards I have found on Cross Deeds all Start in Brunswick::: William and Samuel Johnson had to have patented thier land on some Creek ( unknown at this time I am still Cross referencing) But in 1748 they are in Lunenburg Co. with 4 other Johnson Families two of which are off the Lines Of Michael Johnson as they Isaac and Joseph in 1756 or 59, they sell land that was owned my Michael Johnson::I have a good list know going on these two Off springs ( but not on what creek they owned Land)>> Back to thoughts:: Next Johnson is A Samuel Johnston in 1753 patenented Land on Wards Creek in 1753 in Lunenburg CO. but he doesn't appear on any Lunenburg or Halifax County Tithables:::1753-1770 These Balingers are going to be related some time as they Were all presberterians that Came with the Caldwell group that settled on Cubb Creek, with numerous lands ajoining Wards Creek. they bought over 16,000 acres.On first purchase in Lunenburg Co. Va I need an early copy of Ameilia County Titahbales and Tax list for the Johnsons on it.AS in 1750 All of the Wards and Cubb Creek people from 1748 Lunenburg Tithables are in AMelia COunty Deeds. IN 1777 Samuel Johnston (Nancys ) is now in Pittslyvania County for a short Time until Henry County was formed. The People did not move the County Lines kept changing on them, or they kept joining and rej-oining Counties. It is great to know everything we can on this Group of Johnson's I just wished there was a Male for a DNA Test. AS I believe this Whole Group comes from the First Two Johnsons Samuel and William on 1748 Tithable list of Lunenburg Co. as they both would've been born before 1727::(my cross dna on HUdson Johnston would match Johnsons of Isaac and Joseph Johnson) Note :::Hudson lived with the Only William and James Johnson in Henry County Tax list for 1778-1780 this indicates a family relations ip by blood ( either Father Son ,or Brother Brother ,Cousin Cousin etc) ::::: PS hopefully by Friday I will have more Locations for Johnson-Johnstons in 1740-1780 on where they lived and on What Creeks.Have assembled a lot of notes from everone.( Johnson-Johnstonss of Old Brunswick County::: Areas in 1776 Henry,Pittslyvania,Lunenburg,Halifax ,Charlotte, South End of Botetort County and Counties formed from them:: This taken from 1738 Brunswick Map sized and placed over a 1776 Va map::: What is funny is lines seem to run right down the river or Creek and one family on One side &other family branch is on the Other or at the Top of the Creeks that almost touch each other:::) Seems like the Johnson-Johnstons loved to settle at the top of the Creeks ::Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Wood <[email protected]> To: TJstubby <[email protected]>; Nancy Denty Breidenthal <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 8:04 AM Subject: Re: William Johnston/Samuel Johnson, et al > Nancy, didn't even think to ask where your Samuel Johns(t)on, d. Henry Co, m > Elizabeth Ballinger in Pittsylvania, had come from. Was, at that point, > interested in Elizabeth and her father, Joseph. But, now knowing he isn't > part of John's group of Ballinger's, that's finished. So, now I see > postings on the Johns(t)on's ! <G> > > Ok, been chasing one William Johns(t)on (signed both ways, in Charlotte Co > and back in Amelia Co before move. Father said to be one Nahom/Noam/Nahum, > etc, etc, Johnson, found in both Amelia and Charlotte Co VA. a William > Johnson was father of Nancy Johnson m Thomas Hamlett, miller on Turnip > Creek, 20 Mar 1816 Charlotte Co VA. I come from that couple's daughter, > Sarah Hamlett m Francis Hester Jackson, 1854, Charlotte Co VA. Thomas had > about 21 children, but that's another story. > > So, thought, given the William Johnston you're looking at, you might want > this survey; > Charlotte Co # CGBook A p120-121 > date 20 Oct 1779 4th year of King Charles, Thomas Jefferson to William > JOHNSON con A.C. 35 Shill. sterl. re 325a Charlotte Co. both sides Bantrees > fork of Chesnut Cr. loc -32512 -8272 F127 L0 P255 pt A) at a white oak on > his old line thence new lines ln N30W; 102P; pt B) a white oak ln N19E; 44P; > Cross Bantrees Fork pt C) a white oak ln S83W; 54P; pt D) a white oak ln > N60W; 38P; pt E) a white oak ln N5.5E; 100P; pt F) a hickory ln S75W; 52P; > Cross a Br. pt G) a Red Oak ln N87W; 20P; pt H) a white oak ln N11W; 20P; pt > I) a white oak ln N10E; 44P; pt J) a Gum ln N81.5W; 58P; Cross Main fork pt > K) pointers ln S37W; 101P; pt L) a Locust on a Ridge ln S69E; 26P; from a > Ridge pt M) pointers ln S16E; 146P; pt N) pointers ln S50E; 26P; pt O) a > white oak ln S42E; 98P; pt P) a hickory ln E; 62P; pt Q) pointers ln S50E; > 20P; pt R) pointers in his old line ln N60E; 60P; his old line, Cross sd > Bantree fork > > Source, Deed Data Pool, online. > > Other info sitting in a pile, amongst more; > Fron Lewis Averett Research (Jones Memorial Library) contracted by Neil > Brown of Alaska and sent to me in 2001 > > A search for information on William Johnson included the land records for > Amelia and Charlotte Co VA in 1848. John N Johnson (Charlotte Co) owned 90 > acres on Turkey Cock Creek. Also listed inthe same vicintiy on Turkey Cock > Creek were Nancy Johnson and Elizabeth M Johnson. The 40 acres of Nancy was > deeded to her for her lifetime only. the others were in fee simple. It was > common practice for a man to leave his wife property for ife use after which > it was sold or divided among his children or hiers. > > Tracking the and taxes backward from 1849 the researcher found that there > was a William Johnson who had acreage on Turkey Cock Creek. The assumption > is made her that this is John's father. Willam. This William Johnson is one > of several in Charlotte Co land taxes so the clerk has assigned a note for > each to keep them separated. This William is listed as the son of Naum > Johnson. This same Naum aslo held land on Turkey Cock Creek as seen in the > land taxes of Charlotte Co VA for 1820 > The US census for Charlotte Co VA in 1810 and 1820 both lise a Nohan/Maum > Johnson. The 1820 census shows there was a male 16-26 years of age i, 1 male > 45 and over. There was 1 female under 10 years of age, 1 female 16-26 and 1 > female over 34. This shows that Naum was born before 1766 (see note 5) as > wwas the older female who may have been his wife, though niether name nor > status is given in this census. > Naum Johnson receved a pension for service in the REvolutionary War. This > abstsract of his service record says he was born Nov 1750 in AMelia Co VA > where he also enlisted. He applied for a pension on 3 Spe 1823 in Charlotte > Co vA at the age of 82 years. He is also listed among Amelia Co VA > militiamen > A search of Amelia Co marriage records and and early deeds and wills turned > up no mention of a Naum /Nahum/Moham Johnson > The land tax records for Charlotte Co VA as well as the index to deeds show > that Naum Johnson bought land there first in 1807. He shows up on the land > taxes in 1809 including a note that he bought the land from Abrham St. John > as is also indicated in the index to county deeds. > > 1844 county taxes William Johnson Sr 137 acres Turkey Cock Creek > > Charlotte Co Rich Indeed, constable...Constable, William Johnson 1798 and > 1803, though may or may not be our William Johnson > > > If any of this sounds like your William Johnston, let me know. This William > is a pain. I think he's William who may have married the widow, Nancy > Brewer, in1803 in Charlotte, though his first wife, Susan _ was the mother > of my Nancy Johns(t)on Hamlett. > > Just adding info. > > Karen > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "TJstubby" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 1:12 PM > Subject: [VACHARLO] Henry County info ( Part 2) > > > > Following info received from Nancy Denty Briedenthal researcher > > > > Relatives of Her Samuel Johnston in Henry Co.Va and Pittsylvania Co.Va > Samuel was a farmer and blacksmith, and wagon Maker, born 1753 he married > Elizabeth Ballenger::June 26 1776 Pittsylvania Co.Va and died abt Feb 11 > 1833 Limestone Al. Samuel had a brother James Johnston who also lived in > HEnry Co.Va:: Her note is there two James Johnson in Henry Co?::James > Johnston was born abt 1757 in Lunenburg Co.Va maried Joyce Wells on AUg 24 > 1790 and died Apriil 30 1840 in Henry Co.Va James fought in the Rev. War:: > Borh James and Samuel resided on Turkey Cock Creek in Henry Co. Samuel also > owned land on Leatherwood Creek, an on Baretree ( Bantree) FOrk of Chestnut > Creek:: > > 1780::Jacob Johnson::James Johnson:: WIlliam and Hudson Johnson in one > Home > > 1779 Tax list of Henry Co. Johnsons::: William ::: Hudson (treble tax) > Samuel Johnson::Noble Johnson:: Jacob Johnson (Treble Tax) > > 1778::William Johnson:::James Johnson and Hudson in one house:Samuel > JOhnson > > Notes on above::: James Johnson that lived with Hudson was born 1757 or > Before:::: Note Hudsons WIfe Agness born 1740-1750 ( Per Dickson CO.Census) > ::::No other James Johnson on Henry Co.Census > > > > Note from Mary Holland researcher > > Abstract of Pittsylvania County Wills 1767-1820 > > Moses Johnson had two sons mentioned ::Ather and Obediah will proved June > 18 1782 > > Archibald Johnston sons James::: Wm:::Samuel::Obediah:: proved Sept 15 > 1788 > > > > Henry Co Va List of Surveys 1779-1780 > > Samuel Johnston:: Leatherwood Creek 350 acres > > Samuel Johnston 272 acre Leatherwood Creek > > Moses Johnson unk location > > > > Abstract of Deeds Henry Co. 2784-2792 > > June 1784 John Shields of Pittsylvania Co. to sell land in Henry Co. to > Samuel Johnston both sides of Turkey Creek > > March 1785 SAmuel JOhnston sells to Francis Hill of Prince Edward Co. land > on both sides of Baretree Creek of Chestnut Creek > > APril 1789 Samuel Johnson seels to William Lauerence 100 acres on both > side of Turkey Cocke Creek > > July 1792 Samuel Johnston sells land to Samuel HUghes 200 acres on Turkey > Cock Creek > > > > NOw more Notes From Nancy Dnety Briedenthal > > Re: Pesky Johnston in Charlotte Co.Va > > On March 1787 those Johnstons enumurated were Phillip nas Phillip > JOhnston and Reubin Johnson > > Marc 22 1787:: Rev. Thomas Johnston > > March 27 Josias and Sias Johnston > > Marc 24::Nelson Johnston > > Mar 28 William Johnston > > APril 2 James Johnston and Reubin Johnston > > May 2nd::Jas Johnston,Samuel Johnston,WIlliam Johnston along with the > Following Drury Burge::Paschal Greenhill::George Hannah (his estate) John > Hannah::Nathan Lawson::Drury Scott::and Darby Whitlow:: > > May 30 James Johnston Sr. along with the Following::David Addams,James > Addams::Stephen Bedford::Jas Daniel::Jas davis::David Maddox::Jas > Middleton::Robt Morgan::William and WIlliamson Price::William Price Jr::Robt > Rives::Oliver Saller::Ann B.Tankersly and Thomas WHite > > May 9 John H.Johnston > > > > Untitled > Document:::http://:www.fortunecity.com/bally/minogues/136/johnsonland.html > > Oct 20 1779 William Johnson both sides of Bantrees Creek > > Note other Johnson-Johnstons deed mentioned at this site > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Paul, Would the below statement be true for most states. Quan Affidavit Of Descent If a person owns property and that person dies intestate (without a will), it is normal to file an Affidavit of Descent. This Affidavit is a sworn statement that gives the name of the deceased land owner, the date of death and the names of the heirs of the decedent. Sometimes the Affidavit will also includes ages of the heirs and their addresses. An Affidavit of Descent will be filed and indexed with the deed records under the name of the decedent. Anytime that you locate an Affidavit of Descent, you should also check out the next few recorded deeds. Usually, if the person died without a will, the family doesn't get around to filing the Affidavit of Descent until they get ready to dispose of the real estate and some attorney informs them "by the way you need to file the Affidavit first." If this is the case, the deed conveying the real estate of the decedent will not only list the names of the heirs, but also the names of the spouses. Many times if the property has been held for an extended period of time or even allowed to pass through to the next generation, an Affidavit of Descent can give information on multiple generations. So next time you are in the deed room, check the grantor indices for Affidavits of Descent

To All: Things have been very slow on the E-mail lists lately so it's time to wake up and start posting those questions and other information. Winter is soon coming to the mountains of Southwest Virginia where many of our forefathers were delayed in their westward move by Indian attacks. You are invited to take a photo tour of Washington county at my website: http://hearlshill.freeservers.com/index.html I'm not selling anything and there are no Pop-up ads. G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va.

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I just recently returned from a trip to Patrick County Court House. Having not been there in 3 years, I was surprised to find that records that I normally would have had access to are now restricted. I was so disappointment. One of the clerks in the office informed me that a privacy act was passed that restricted my access to records. Can anyone tell what was passed and what the restrictions are? Paul, are you there to explain. What I really wanted to get was copies of records of my grandfather's arrest in the 1920's. Those records are over 80 years old and grandfather has been deceased since 1958. What harm would it have done to allow me to look at them? Cynthia A. Wilson Seattle, WA ************************************ 3rd Annual West Coast Summit on African American Genealogy October 18, 2003 Patriotic Hall - Los Angeles, CA Keynote Speaker: Tony Burroughs Registration: $60 Contact: [email protected] ************************************ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search

No the Johns are a family tht connects into the Families off Michael Johnston 1682, and rememebr these County lines are not fixed in this Time era, I was just doing the tihtable lists last night on Lunenburg and Charlotte and Henry Co. placing Johnson-Johnstons on a Time Line and crossing it to knowed Deeds that are posted. Johns are a Cross Surname that Might indicate that This might be Michael Johnston connections::: Re in 1702 Edward Hatcher lived right beside this Family, and remember all the Surnames first associated with the Hatcher Family::: Stewart is one, Tanner,Elam,Farmer,Goods,Allen,Burton,Stovall,:: Then Konwn Michael Johnston connection:: Watkins,Watson,Hutchenson,Fuqua, Note I am still obsorbing these Lines since the DNA Test into by Known Family lines. Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: teresa stuart de rios <[email protected]> To: TJstubby <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Henry County info ( Part 2) > tony, about that Moses Johnson in Henry Co. Have a look at the 1782 tax > list, search John Stewart. He will be the first Stewart on the list, under > him or near him is a Moses Johns. I can´t find anything on any Moses Johns, > wonder if this is Moses Johnson? Could be, there are some mistakes on this > list. Teresa > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "TJstubby" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 11:12 AM > Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Henry County info ( Part 2) > > > > Following info received from Nancy Denty Briedenthal researcher > > > > Relatives of Her Samuel Johnston in Henry Co.Va and Pittsylvania Co.Va > Samuel was a farmer and blacksmith, and wagon Maker, born 1753 he married > Elizabeth Ballenger::June 26 1776 Pittsylvania Co.Va and died abt Feb 11 > 1833 Limestone Al. Samuel had a brother James Johnston who also lived in > HEnry Co.Va:: Her note is there two James Johnson in Henry Co?::James > Johnston was born abt 1757 in Lunenburg Co.Va maried Joyce Wells on AUg 24 > 1790 and died Apriil 30 1840 in Henry Co.Va James fought in the Rev. War:: > Borh James and Samuel resided on Turkey Cock Creek in Henry Co. Samuel also > owned land on Leatherwood Creek, an on Baretree ( Bantree) FOrk of Chestnut > Creek:: > > 1780::Jacob Johnson::James Johnson:: WIlliam and Hudson Johnson in one > Home > > 1779 Tax list of Henry Co. Johnsons::: William ::: Hudson (treble tax) > Samuel Johnson::Noble Johnson:: Jacob Johnson (Treble Tax) > > 1778::William Johnson:::James Johnson and Hudson in one house:Samuel > JOhnson > > Notes on above::: James Johnson that lived with Hudson was born 1757 or > Before:::: Note Hudsons WIfe Agness born 1740-1750 ( Per Dickson CO.Census) > ::::No other James Johnson on Henry Co.Census > > > > Note from Mary Holland researcher > > Abstract of Pittsylvania County Wills 1767-1820 > > Moses Johnson had two sons mentioned ::Ather and Obediah will proved June > 18 1782 > > Archibald Johnston sons James::: Wm:::Samuel::Obediah:: proved Sept 15 > 1788 > > > > Henry Co Va List of Surveys 1779-1780 > > Samuel Johnston:: Leatherwood Creek 350 acres > > Samuel Johnston 272 acre Leatherwood Creek > > Moses Johnson unk location > > > > Abstract of Deeds Henry Co. 2784-2792 > > June 1784 John Shields of Pittsylvania Co. to sell land in Henry Co. to > Samuel Johnston both sides of Turkey Creek > > March 1785 SAmuel JOhnston sells to Francis Hill of Prince Edward Co. land > on both sides of Baretree Creek of Chestnut Creek > > APril 1789 Samuel Johnson seels to William Lauerence 100 acres on both > side of Turkey Cocke Creek > > July 1792 Samuel Johnston sells land to Samuel HUghes 200 acres on Turkey > Cock Creek > > > > NOw more Notes From Nancy Dnety Briedenthal > > Re: Pesky Johnston in Charlotte Co.Va > > On March 1787 those Johnstons enumurated were Phillip nas Phillip > JOhnston and Reubin Johnson > > Marc 22 1787:: Rev. Thomas Johnston > > March 27 Josias and Sias Johnston > > Marc 24::Nelson Johnston > > Mar 28 William Johnston > > APril 2 James Johnston and Reubin Johnston > > May 2nd::Jas Johnston,Samuel Johnston,WIlliam Johnston along with the > Following Drury Burge::Paschal Greenhill::George Hannah (his estate) John > Hannah::Nathan Lawson::Drury Scott::and Darby Whitlow:: > > May 30 James Johnston Sr. along with the Following::David Addams,James > Addams::Stephen Bedford::Jas Daniel::Jas davis::David Maddox::Jas > Middleton::Robt Morgan::William and WIlliamson Price::William Price Jr::Robt > Rives::Oliver Saller::Ann B.Tankersly and Thomas WHite > > May 9 John H.Johnston > > > > Untitled > Document:::http://:www.fortunecity.com/bally/minogues/136/johnsonland.html > > Oct 20 1779 William Johnson both sides of Bantrees Creek > > Note other Johnson-Johnstons deed mentioned at this site > > > > > > > > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > > Rootsweb Acceptable Use Policy forbids posting copyrighted material which > you do not own to Rootsweb Lists. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Hi, I had a similar experience with a lack of response from TLC back in November 2002. I placed an online order, got an automated reply acknowledging it, and then . . . nothing. I too tried calling (it had been disconnected back in late Nov or early Dec 2002), tried customer service via email, got no reply, eventually sent a fax, which did go through, but got no reply from that either. To date I have met several other people who had had similar experiences. This was my first contact with TLC (or non-contact might be a better description). I understood they were a reputable firm in the past. It's very disheartening to discover they aren't even responding at all, and even more that they have not taken down the website when they are clearly not responding to orders. Barbara Schenck

Can't help you with this particular one but can share a tout on a first rate source: [email protected] Owner is guy named Craig Scott. He's in VA and specializes in VA. John M. Poythress

I asked this same question on a SC mailing list last March. On Feb. 8th I placed an online order (according to their new web site it was the only way you could order) and received an e-mail order confirmation notice. I'd been a long time customer and had always received my orders promptly but after sending e-mail messages to the customer service and owner's addresses, I called the 1-800 number (which had been disconnected) and mailed a letter to the s-mail address. I never did get a response from anyone. So the news is not good and it's really sad to see such a great company end this way. Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 5:03 PM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Where is TLC Genealogy? > I have tried several times just now to access www.tlcgenealogy.com where in > the past I have purchased a number of books of records of Southside counties, > particularly Lunenburg and Halifax. Now this website seems to be among the > missing. I tried google.com and still couldn't find the website. > > Does anyone have any news--good, I hope???? > > E.W.Wallace

I have had to unsubscribe for a while--long vacation, etc, illness in the family--and have not kept up too well with the genealogical world. I have tried several times just now to access www.tlcgenealogy.com where in the past I have purchased a number of books of records of Southside counties, particularly Lunenburg and Halifax. Now this website seems to be among the missing. I tried google.com and still couldn't find the website. Does anyone have any news--good, I hope???? E.W.Wallace

On AOL (version 9) Go to Manage Mail, and click on the Spam folder, then click on the particular email that isn't spam and then click on the bottom 'button' where you can tell AOL that the particular email is not spam.. Cam ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 5:13 PM Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] AOL and Southside VA > I just discovered two of the emails from Southside were in the *spam* folder > of AOL. Just an allert to those who use AOL and version 9.0. I do not know how > we can sort the good from the bad but please do not delete without checking > for *good* mail. > > Gale Fuller > > > ==== VA-SOUTHSIDE Mailing List ==== > Do not post Advertisements, Chain Letters, Virus Warnings etc. to this list. If in doubt, Contact: G. Lee Hearl, Adm. at: [email protected] > Hosted by Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

The following book is an excellent source for *clues* to early Virginia marriages.... Wilkerson, Eva Eubank, Index to marriages of old Rappahannock and Essex Counties, Virginia, 1655-1900. (Richmond, Whittet & Shepperson, 1953) Note, however, it is stated in the Preface the marriages found within this book are implied by court records the author abstracted. Charlotte Tucker

NOte in Charlotte Co. Deeds Oct 1779 a William Johnson is mentioned as having land on Bantrees Creek::What year was William and Hudson Together:: Chestnut Creek Flow into the Pigg River:::: So do the Following Creeks Snow Creek Turkey Cock Creek then into the Ranoake River the Roanok flow West::: where Wards Fork Cub Creek,Roanoke Creek Horsepen Creek,Turnip falling Creek,Seneco River,Otter River,Goose Creek,Blue stone and L. Bluestone, Then into Mecklenburg Co. Va into NC. Do you think they might have just followed the Roanoke River West and settled on the Tributarorys (sic) adjoining Rivers??? I sent this on to the Chat and WEb sites I am getting info From Thanks Tony Elizabeth must have something in the Land a Dowers Right??? Did WIlliam mary a cousin ,aunt or sister of Elizabeth Ballinger::: NOte a huge Presberterian Church came from New Jersey in 1740 and settled on Cubs Creek and on Wards Fork, property was bought by Note 1779 was a Land Grant by THomas Jefferson Governor of Va to William Johnston for 326 acres:: Samuel Sold this same amount of Land in March 1785 to Francis Hill of Prince Edward Co.This was given to WIlliam Jhnston and his Heirs forever date of grant Oct 29 1779 ----- Original Message ----- From: Nancy Denty Breidenthal To: TJstubby Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:16 PM Subject: Bantree Fork of Chestnut Creek Tony, Here's a question to post. I was recently looking through my Johnston notes and realized (DUD!) that the land on Bantree Fork of Chestnut Creek that Samuel and Elizabeth Johnston sold on 21 Mar 1785 must be the same parcel granted to William Johnston on 20 Oct 1779, described as "both sides on Bantree's Fork and Chestnut Creek" in Charlotte County. Both tracts were 326 acres. They must be the same. How did Sam come into the property? If through inheritance, where is the documentation? And why would he need his wife's agreement to the deed, i.e. her relinquishment of dower if the property had been inherited by Sam, not her? If he purchased the land, where is the deed? According to Blunt, Complete Index and Abstracts of the Henry County Order Books # 1 and #2, p. 128, there's supposed to be a deed from William Johnson to Sam on 28 Sep 1780; but I've never been able to locate the original on microfilm. Does any other researcher have the details? Nancy

----- Original Message ----- From: TJstubby To: Mary Gibson Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 6:04 PM Subject: Fw: Henry County info ( Part 2) ----- Original Message ----- From: TJstubby To: teresa stuart de rios ; [email protected] ; [email protected] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 5:52 PM Subject: Re: Henry County info ( Part 2) Oh yes The Combs connection Please see Combes Family Web SIte as Hudson Johnson-Johnston is listed as a Person Of Interest:::: This is MY hudson Johnson-Johnston who followed Rev.Thomas Murrell into Rev.Thomas Murrell, married one widow Elizabeth or rebekah Martin married to James Johnston Major Killed on the Clinch River::: Katherine Wells married one Edward Ned Arnold born 1754 Greenville SC this line goes back to Benjamin Arnold and Anne Hendircks SOme how this Arnold Line comes into Dickson and Humphreys Co. ( This line loosees me) and Maried to my Great Aunt Ada Johnson ( sister of my Grandfather) Lavina or Vinna Wells born ?? married one Solomon Boone b. 1768 Culpper Co.va. they were married 1793 Wytheville W.Va Solomon is the Brother of one of My Great Grands Sarah Sally Boone married to John mcElyea who also intertwine with guess who Hudson Johnson Johnston John Webb married one Mary Boone ( great AUnt to my Sarah Sally Boone) b.1699 England died 1774 Berks Co.PA John Boone b.1701 England married one Mary WEbb Mordecia Lincoln b. 1730 married one Mary Webb margaret Elizabeth Wells b.1838 Tn married one Pherel Vincent Rogers b.1823 Carroll Co.Tn daughter.Clora Blunt Rogers b.1854 Muary Co.Tn. married Thomas Monroe Simpson 1838-1928 Humphreys Co. Tn::: daughter ALice Simpson married By Great Uncle Thomas "Milton" Johnson b.1879 Dickson Co. Tn died ???? He comes off the Lines of Hudson Johnson as he is by Grandfathers Brother. TOO MANY JONES CONNECTIONS to Count (LOL) MY Uncle Melin Johnson married my AUnt Vera Jones ( Aunt by marriage but there is back connections to a cousin Line) ----- Original Message ----- From: teresa stuart de rios To: TJstubby Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 10:25 AM Subject: Re: Henry County info ( Part 2) Tony, If you have a WELLS connection with Johnson, then we need to talk. I have Wells/Wills with Johnson, Combs, Webb, Jones in SW VA. Teresa ----- Original Message ----- From: TJstubby To: teresa stuart de rios ; VA Charlo ; VA Southside ; [email protected] ; Roots Johnson ; Roots hawkins Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 11:12 AM Subject: Henry County info ( Part 2) Following info received from Nancy Denty Briedenthal researcher Relatives of Her Samuel Johnston in Henry Co.Va and Pittsylvania Co.Va Samuel was a farmer and blacksmith, and wagon Maker, born 1753 he married Elizabeth Ballenger::June 26 1776 Pittsylvania Co.Va and died abt Feb 11 1833 Limestone Al. Samuel had a brother James Johnston who also lived in HEnry Co.Va:: Her note is there two James Johnson in Henry Co?::James Johnston was born abt 1757 in Lunenburg Co.Va maried Joyce Wells on AUg 24 1790 and died Apriil 30 1840 in Henry Co.Va James fought in the Rev. War:: Borh James and Samuel resided on Turkey Cock Creek in Henry Co. Samuel also owned land on Leatherwood Creek, an on Baretree ( Bantree) FOrk of Chestnut Creek:: 1780::Jacob Johnson::James Johnson:: WIlliam and Hudson Johnson in one Home 1779 Tax list of Henry Co. Johnsons::: William ::: Hudson (treble tax) Samuel Johnson::Noble Johnson:: Jacob Johnson (Treble Tax) 1778::William Johnson:::James Johnson and Hudson in one house:Samuel JOhnson Notes on above::: James Johnson that lived with Hudson was born 1757 or Before:::: Note Hudsons WIfe Agness born 1740-1750 ( Per Dickson CO.Census) ::::No other James Johnson on Henry Co.Census Note from Mary Holland researcher Abstract of Pittsylvania County Wills 1767-1820 Moses Johnson had two sons mentioned ::Ather and Obediah will proved June 18 1782 Archibald Johnston sons James::: Wm:::Samuel::Obediah:: proved Sept 15 1788 Henry Co Va List of Surveys 1779-1780 Samuel Johnston:: Leatherwood Creek 350 acres Samuel Johnston 272 acre Leatherwood Creek Moses Johnson unk location Abstract of Deeds Henry Co. 2784-2792 June 1784 John Shields of Pittsylvania Co. to sell land in Henry Co. to Samuel Johnston both sides of Turkey Creek March 1785 SAmuel JOhnston sells to Francis Hill of Prince Edward Co. land on both sides of Baretree Creek of Chestnut Creek APril 1789 Samuel Johnson seels to William Lauerence 100 acres on both side of Turkey Cocke Creek July 1792 Samuel Johnston sells land to Samuel HUghes 200 acres on Turkey Cock Creek NOw more Notes From Nancy Dnety Briedenthal Re: Pesky Johnston in Charlotte Co.Va On March 1787 those Johnstons enumurated were Phillip nas Phillip JOhnston and Reubin Johnson Marc 22 1787:: Rev. Thomas Johnston March 27 Josias and Sias Johnston Marc 24::Nelson Johnston Mar 28 William Johnston APril 2 James Johnston and Reubin Johnston May 2nd::Jas Johnston,Samuel Johnston,WIlliam Johnston along with the Following Drury Burge::Paschal Greenhill::George Hannah (his estate) John Hannah::Nathan Lawson::Drury Scott::and Darby Whitlow:: May 30 James Johnston Sr. along with the Following::David Addams,James Addams::Stephen Bedford::Jas Daniel::Jas davis::David Maddox::Jas Middleton::Robt Morgan::William and WIlliamson Price::William Price Jr::Robt Rives::Oliver Saller::Ann B.Tankersly and Thomas WHite May 9 John H.Johnston Untitled Document:::http://:www.fortunecity.com/bally/minogues/136/johnsonland.html Oct 20 1779 William Johnson both sides of Bantrees Creek Note other Johnson-Johnstons deed mentioned at this site