I'm not a McCarty researcher, so my thoughts might be totally off base here, Also, some rambling here. I always like to try to ID where folks were living, or owned land. So, when I saw this note I decided to go to the Historic Westmoreland patent sheets by Eaton to see exactly where the McCarty family was showing up in Westmoreland (note: not all the old patents given but gives you a pretty good idea of people/location some times). Also, I am interested in the Thomas & Cox family appearing in document with a Daniel McCarty & Barbara. Reason is a William Rush (I) married Dorothy, relic of Christopher Thomas and the Grey/Rush family later owned land near the Westmoreland/Stafford/KG line and I'm wondering if this William Thomas and Robert Thomas (in the Daniel & Barbara McCarty document) are out of same line. I think William Thomas line included James & James (the young) Thomas who were surveyors, but need to check further.....Think maybe the "William James Thomas", surveyor showing up in Fauquier, was same man as James Thomas the younger. Been trying to track this Thomas family of late, but not a lot of success. My best guess: This Christopher Thomas appears to have been coming from York Co Va and may have migrated to Maryland and then crossed over to NN and may have had a son William. Anyone with info on this family, I would like to here from you. Here's what I found from the entries on Westmoreland patent sheets Patent sheet #5 Wm Lord to Daniel McCarty 496 acres Oct 1, 1728 (near Morris Store and Aug Washington’s Mill & Popes Creek) Patent sheet #7 William Bridges to D. McCarty 200a Dec 16 1690 near Br of Popes Creek Patent sheet #13 1050a Wm Gooch Patent Nov 18, 1650, assigned to Richard Cole he re-patented for 1350 acres August 20, 1661 escheated to Daniel McCarty & Daniel Tebbs, March 11, 1703. This land is not to far from Henry Corbin, Capt Peter Ashton and “William Thomas” patent of Sept 30, 1660 and fairly close to the Vincent Cox family (patent sheet # 14) First two patent sheets (5&7)show land in the immediate area of Popes Creek (and very close to each other), but I notices that one of the tracks was acquired by a Daniel McCarty after the 1724 death of Daniel McCarty, Speaker of the House of Burgesses ....So, is he a son ? as he is certainly in the the immediate area of Popes Creek ? ....Did he marry a Barbara (or vice versa) ? This last patent sheet (13) shows a Daniel McCarty and a Daniel Tebbs owning land near a "William Thomas" and I see a Robert Thomas as a witness and Sem Cox as a friend on the McCarty deed to Symon Tomasin. I think this Sem Cox can be connected to the Vincent Cox family located nearby....So is he same man purchasing land from William Lord on Popes Creek in 1728? This looks like the "Symon Thomasin" mentioned in the Daniel &Barbara McCarty deed...He may have come from Lancaster to KG ..... 1753-1773 King George Co., Va - Deed Book; pp. 712-714. Indenture made 7th August 1766 (sic) between ANTHONY STROTHER and FRANCES his wife of county King George of one part and WILLIAM NEWTON of same county .. Whereas SIMON TOMISON in his lifetime was possessed of a certain tract of land containing about 300 acres lying on head of *Muddy Creek in now county King George* .. by his last will and testament recorded in county court Stafford bequeathed same to his daughter MARGARET TOMISON at whose death the same descended to her daughter ELIZABETH KENYON Mother to aforesaid FRANCES STROTHER which said Elizabeth Kenyon the Mother dying without heir male of her body or making any will the tract of land descended in equal proportions to her six daughters & coheirs (to wit) SARAH. MAGARET. ELIZABETH. ANN, FRANCES and MILLION which said tract was by ABRAHAN KENYON husband of aforesaid Elizabeth the Mother by his will bequeathed to WILLIAN CARTER notwithstanding the same was vested in him for life by the Curtesy of England .. Whereas said coheirs and their husbands hath prosecuted an Ejectment in county court King George against William Carter for the tract of land & by a Judgment of the court hath repossessed themselves of said tract of land .. divided the same in six equal parts .. said Frances Kenyans proportion is 44 acres .. distinguished by the number 3 .. and said Frances hath since intermarried with Anthony Strother. Now this Indenture Witnesseth that Anthony Strother and Frances his wife for sum Seventeen pounds current money of Virginia .. sold said 44 acres of land to William Newton .. Presence Adam Steuart, Anthony Strother Dekar Thompson, Arthur Morson. Frances Strother John Newton At 8 court held 3rd October 1765 .. Deed acknowledged .. admitted to record.=== 1695-1701 Richmond Co VA Deed Book 3; Antient Press: (Page 28) BEE IT KNOWNE unto all men by these presents that I DANIELL McCARTY of Richmond County in the NORTHERNE NECK & Dominion of Virginia & BARBARY my Wife have for the valuable sum of Three thousand pounds of tobacco by me in hand already reced of SYMON TOMASIN {sic Thompson} of STAFFORD County in the same NORTHERNE NECK & Dominion aforesaid, have sold unto the said SYMON TOMAZIN all that tract of land by me the said DANIELL MaCARTY purchased of Capt. JOHN GLENDENNING & ANN his Wife by an Authentick Deed of Sale bearing date the 27th: of March 1697, unto the said SIMON THOMASIN his heires Ezecutrs: & Admstrs: together with the said Deed forever, To have hold occupie & quietly & peacably possess & enjoy the said tract of Land & Deed before menconed with warranty against the claime or claimes of me the said DANLL. MaCARTY or BARBARY my Wife or any manner of persons whatsoever by for or under us our heires from the day of the date of these presents forever. In Witness whereof wee have hereunto sett our hands & Settles the 15th: day of June Ano Dom 1698 Signed sealed & delivered in pr:sence of us PEIRCE NOWLAND his marke DANLL. MaCARTY his marke ROBT. THOMAS his marke BARBARY MaCARTY her marke Recognitr: in Cur: Com: Richmond 6d die Julii Ano: Dom: 1698 et record 20th die Test WM. COLSTON, CI Cur KNOW ALL MEN by these presents that I BARBARA MaCARTY doe hereby authorize & impower my trusty & well beloved friend, SEM COX, to be my lawful! Attorney to acknowledge in my name & stead a Deed of Sale & an Assignmt. thereof for One hundred & sixty acres of land, the Deed bearing date the 27th: day of March 1697, the Assignment the 15th: day of June 1698; unto SYMON TOMAZIN of STAFFORD County holding for time & valid wt: my said Attorney shall do in the pr:misses as if I were personally present as Witness my hand & seale this 8th: day of July 1698 Signed sealed & delivered in presence of us PEIRCE NOWLAND his marke BARBARA MaCARTY her marke ROBT. THOMAS his marke Record WM. COLSTON, Cle. -- Fred Duncan

Somewhere I stumbled on Sem Cox. I seem to recall he was a ship captain. I too work on the land side. I just finished a squib on Eaton. He had an impossible job. I know because I am trying to do the same thing but in a smaller area. However when you omit 50% of the patents in one area, it is not good. My final comment was: "Placement is one thing. Glaring omissions are inexcusable. It is regretful that this work has been regarded as scripture in the county for decades." Unfortunately his is the only work. I have hit the Thomas family on a few deeds and will check to see what I have. Ed White On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Fred Duncan <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm not a McCarty researcher, so my thoughts might be totally off base > here, > Also, some rambling here. > > I always like to try to ID where folks were living, or owned land. So, when > I saw this note I decided to go to the Historic Westmoreland patent sheets > by Eaton to see exactly where the McCarty family was showing up in > Westmoreland (note: not all the old patents given but gives you a pretty > good idea of people/location some times). > > Also, I am interested in the Thomas & Cox family appearing in document > with > a Daniel McCarty & Barbara. Reason is a William Rush (I) married Dorothy, > relic of Christopher Thomas and the Grey/Rush family later owned land near > the Westmoreland/Stafford/KG line and I'm wondering if this William Thomas > and Robert Thomas (in the Daniel & Barbara McCarty document) are out of > same > line. I think William Thomas line included James & James (the young) Thomas > who were surveyors, but need to check further.....Think maybe the "William > James Thomas", surveyor showing up in Fauquier, was same man as James > Thomas > the younger. Been trying to track this Thomas family of late, but not a lot > of success. My best guess: This Christopher Thomas appears to have been > coming from York Co Va and may have migrated to Maryland and then crossed > over to NN and may have had a son William. Anyone with info on this family, > I would like to here from you. > > Here's what I found from the entries on Westmoreland patent sheets > > Patent sheet #5 > > Wm Lord to Daniel McCarty 496 acres > > Oct 1, 1728 (near Morris Store and Aug Washington’s Mill & Popes Creek) > > > > Patent sheet #7 > > William Bridges to D. McCarty 200a Dec 16 1690 near Br of Popes Creek > > > > Patent sheet #13 > > 1050a Wm Gooch Patent Nov 18, 1650, assigned to Richard Cole he re-patented > for 1350 acres August 20, 1661 escheated to Daniel McCarty & Daniel Tebbs, > March 11, 1703. This land is not to far from Henry Corbin, Capt Peter > Ashton > and “William Thomas” patent of Sept 30, 1660 and fairly close to the > Vincent > Cox family (patent sheet # 14) > > > First two patent sheets (5&7)show land in the immediate area of Popes Creek > (and very close to each other), but I notices that one of the tracks was > acquired by a Daniel McCarty after the 1724 death of Daniel McCarty, > Speaker > of the House of Burgesses ....So, is he a son ? as he is certainly in the > the immediate area of Popes Creek ? ....Did he marry a Barbara (or vice > versa) ? > > > This last patent sheet (13) shows a Daniel McCarty and a Daniel Tebbs > owning > land near a "William Thomas" and I see a Robert Thomas as a witness and Sem > Cox as a friend on the McCarty deed to Symon Tomasin. I think this Sem Cox > can be connected to the Vincent Cox family located nearby....So is he same > man purchasing land from William Lord on Popes Creek in 1728? > > > This looks like the "Symon Thomasin" mentioned in the Daniel &Barbara > McCarty deed...He may have come from Lancaster to KG ..... > > > 1753-1773 King George Co., Va - Deed Book; pp. 712-714. > Indenture made 7th August 1766 (sic) between ANTHONY STROTHER and FRANCES > his wife of county King George of one part and WILLIAM NEWTON of same > county > .. Whereas SIMON TOMISON in his lifetime was possessed of a certain tract > of > land containing about 300 acres lying on head of *Muddy Creek in now county > King George* .. by his last will and testament recorded in county court > Stafford bequeathed same to his daughter MARGARET TOMISON at whose death > the > same descended to her daughter ELIZABETH KENYON Mother to aforesaid FRANCES > STROTHER which said Elizabeth Kenyon the Mother dying without heir male of > her body or making any will the tract of land descended in equal > proportions > to her six daughters & coheirs (to wit) SARAH. MAGARET. ELIZABETH. ANN, > FRANCES and MILLION which said tract was by ABRAHAN KENYON husband of > aforesaid Elizabeth the Mother by his will bequeathed to WILLIAN CARTER > notwithstanding the same was vested in him for life by the Curtesy of > England .. Whereas said coheirs and their husbands hath prosecuted an > Ejectment > in county court King George against William Carter for the tract of > land & by a Judgment of the court hath repossessed themselves of said tract > of land .. divided the same in six equal parts .. said Frances Kenyans > proportion is 44 acres .. distinguished by the number 3 .. and said Frances > hath since intermarried with Anthony Strother. Now this Indenture > Witnesseth > that Anthony Strother and Frances his wife for sum Seventeen pounds current > money of Virginia .. sold said 44 acres of land to William Newton .. > Presence Adam Steuart, Anthony Strother > Dekar Thompson, Arthur Morson. Frances Strother > John Newton > At 8 court held 3rd October 1765 .. Deed acknowledged .. admitted to > record.=== > > > > 1695-1701 Richmond Co VA Deed Book 3; Antient Press: (Page 28) > BEE IT KNOWNE unto all men by these presents that I DANIELL McCARTY of > Richmond County in the NORTHERNE NECK & Dominion of Virginia & BARBARY my > Wife have for the valuable sum of Three thousand pounds of tobacco by me > in > hand already reced of SYMON TOMASIN {sic Thompson} of STAFFORD County in > the > same NORTHERNE NECK & Dominion aforesaid, have sold unto the said SYMON > TOMAZIN all that tract of land by me the said DANIELL MaCARTY purchased of > Capt. JOHN GLENDENNING & ANN his Wife by an Authentick Deed of Sale > bearing > date the 27th: of March 1697, unto the said SIMON THOMASIN his heires > Ezecutrs: & Admstrs: together with the said Deed forever, To have hold > occupie & quietly & peacably possess & enjoy the said tract of Land & Deed > before menconed with warranty against the claime or claimes of me the said > DANLL. MaCARTY or BARBARY my Wife or any manner of persons whatsoever by > for > or under us our heires from the day of the date of these presents forever. > In Witness whereof wee have hereunto sett our hands & Settles the 15th: > day > of June Ano Dom 1698 Signed sealed & delivered in pr:sence of us > PEIRCE NOWLAND his marke DANLL. MaCARTY his marke > ROBT. THOMAS his marke BARBARY MaCARTY her marke > Recognitr: in Cur: Com: Richmond 6d die Julii Ano: Dom: 1698 et record > 20th > die > Test WM. COLSTON, CI Cur > KNOW ALL MEN by these presents that I BARBARA MaCARTY doe hereby authorize > & impower my trusty & well beloved friend, SEM COX, to be my lawful! > Attorney to acknowledge in my name & stead a Deed of Sale & an Assignmt. > thereof for One hundred & sixty acres of land, the Deed bearing date the > 27th: day of March 1697, the Assignment the 15th: day of June 1698; unto > SYMON TOMAZIN of STAFFORD County holding for time & valid wt: my said > Attorney shall do in the pr:misses as if I were personally present as > Witness my hand & seale this 8th: day of July 1698 > Signed sealed & delivered in presence of us > PEIRCE NOWLAND his marke BARBARA MaCARTY her marke > ROBT. THOMAS his marke > Record WM. COLSTON, Cle. > -- > Fred Duncan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message