Janean - I'm looking to tie in Christopher CHINN c1760-1786 - a short, but active, life. See my collected records so far, including several from Pat (she is always VERY helpful)... Loudoun Co, VA; Court [OB-F:p540]: 10 Apr 1775: Christopher CHINN and orphan of Elijah CHINN being of proper age came into Court and made chose of Charles CHINN for his Guardian in the room of Francis PEYTON, with William BRONAUGH and Willaim ELLZEY as securities and 1,000 pounds bond. [NB: Christopher age 14-20; or born 1755-1761; probably the younger range, so perhaps b 1760] Montgomery Co, MD; Mar: 17 Dec 1779: Christopher CHIN m Ann BARTLET Loudoun Co, VA; Guardian Accts [OB-G:p229]; 13 Mar 1780: Christopher CHINN came into Court and made choice of Thomas BARTLETT for his Guardian who with William ELLZEY and Nathaniel WEEDON his securities entered bond of 50,000 pounds. [NB: Christopher CHINN age 14-20; so b 1760-1766; so b 1760] Loudoun Co, VA; Deeds [BkO;p138] 8 Sep 1784 Returned to Court: Christopher CHINN (s/o Elijah CHINN dec?d) & wife Nancy of Ldn to John Peyton HARRISON of Fauquier. Bargain and sale of 250ac in Ldn & Fauquier bequeathed to Elijah CHINN by brother Christopher CHINN dec?d, adj Charles CHINN, George HAILE, Bryan FAIRFAX, Leven POWELL. Wit: Simon TRIPLETT, Francis PEYTON, Leven POWELL, William HUTCHISON [posted GenForum/Nelson Co KY/908 by Pat Duncan GenNutLdn@msn.com 20100829] e11/23/12 [c1785: Thomas BARTLETT moved, with most of his family, to Harrison Co, VA. I believe Christopher and Ann, and their young children, moved, too. Perhaps they moved with Thomas BARTLETT, and then moved on to KY, or they might have gone straight to KY, where just a year later, Christopher CHINN died, leaving a 21 year old widow with at least 3 young children.] 1786 Loudoun Co, VA [cf 1809 below]; Christopher CHINN died 1787-1797: a ten year gap ? where was the widow Anne CHINN and her children, all under 10. Fayette Co, KY; Deed?; [Bk?:p231]: Indenture 16 May 1797: Thomas HALL and Anne HALL, his wife, late Anne CHINN, of Nelson Co, KY, to Walker BAYLOR of Fayette Co, KY. Whereas Christopher CHINN died possessed of 500 ac of land in Fayette Co, part of George BRYAN?s settlement and preemption, and Christopher CHINN did bequeath to his said wife Anne CHINN, now Anne HALL, 1/3 part of 350 ac of the said 500 ac, reserving to John RANSDALL 150 ac by his purposed of said Christopher CHINN, dec?d. Now in consideration of 100 pounds, Thomas and Anne HALL convey to BAYLOR all of their right and title to the said 116 2/3 ac which is 1/3 part of the 250 ac, as has been divided by commissioners and set apart for the said Anne. Anne HALL relinquished her rights of dower. Rec: 16 May 1797. [Fayette Co, KY records (Evansville, IN: Cook Publications, 1985-86), Vol 2, p29] Harrison Co, VA; Deed [DB3:362]; 17 Dec 1798; Thomas BARTLETT, of Harrison Co, VA to his daughter Anne HALL of Nelson Co, KY ... a Negro slave woman named Abigail, then to her daughter Elizabeth HALL; Sig: Thomas BARTLETT; Wit: John W. LOOFBOURROW, Benjamin BARTLETT, Sanford BARTLETT, Robert BARTLETT and John J. WALDO; Rec 17 Dec 1798. [B1D; B1D9; 6; 11; 8] Fayette Co, KY; records?; [?:p146]: 8 May 1809: Pursuant to an Act authorizing the County Court to receive testimony concerning burned records, William CHINN came into court and made oath that his brother, Christopher CHINN, died in Loudoun Co, VA in the year 1786, that he read the will of deceased brother, and that he gave his wife Ann CHINN one third of his estate, real and personal, and the remaining two thirds to his children, which was recorded in this County and the record thereof destroyed by the burning of the Clerk?s office [I believer Christopher CHINN must have gone to and died in KY, unless he died on a return trip to Loudoun Co, VA. Otherwise, I don't see how Ann BARTLETT CHINN would have gotten to KY to meet/marry Thomas HALL, who had spent the RevWar period in KY] Jim Bartlett On 11/26/12, Janean Ray<jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: Jim let me do some research and make some inquiries of Christopher and Elijah's descendants. I think you might be a generation off, but maybe not. Rawleigh and Margaret had Charles, Elijah and Christopher. I think this Original Elijah died c. 1771 if memory serves. I have more information at home than here at work. I also have many emails etc saved that I never got logged in because it wasn't my direct line but I did an enourmous amount of work on these lines. Charles had a son Elijah Elijah had a son Elijah etc etc. so It's going to be confusing. First person I can recommend to you is Pat Duncan and I understand in just talking to her that you two have spoken before. She is major researcher/transcriber of all things Loudoun/Fauquier and has published many many books and has been my go to person for 15 years on the Chinn family because she has transcribed it all. GenNutLdn@msn.com Secondly after Rawleigh (my grandfather) got done with Easter and took up with Margaret... He bought land in Loudoun Co for his sons and gave them 500 acres each. Joseph started what is now the Red Fox Inn (Chinns Ordinary) in Middleburg. Thomas (my grandfather) built some tennet homes in Middleburg in which his son Thomas moved in which is now the Carter House and Waverly or (Piedmont Vineyards). Charles and Scythia (Davis) built their home Bittersweet as it's now called, and is still standing and privately owned (I have pictures of it) in Fauquier Co. Anyway, Charles DID in fact buy land in Kentucky, and if fact left to his son, Elijah to have 500a in Nelson Co. KY. Scythia died in Bourbon Co. Kentucky, after the death of her husband Charles in 1788. She died in 1824, was in KY before the 1810 census along with most of her children. They settled in the Paris KY area, her estate was sold at the home of her son, Joseph Chinn who lived about 8 miles from Paris on the Lexington-Cynthiana Rd. 2 1/2 mi from Centerville, KY. This is from Fauquier Will Book Abstracts by Dee Ann Buck: CHINN, CHARLES--Will--13 May 1787,25 Feb 1788, Son: Charles to have my silver watch, various named household items & stock animals & 50 pounds, Son: Christopher to have slaves: Chris & Larry & 25 shillings, Son: Elijah to have 500a in Nelson Co. KY, Children: Rawleigh, John, Wm. Bail, Joseph, Margaret, Betty, Suckey, Nancy each to received named household items & stock animals & 50 pounds, Sons: Charles, Rawleigh, John, Wm. Bail & Joseph all the residue of my lands in the District of KY, Wife: Seth Chinn during her natural life the use of 1/3 of estate of my Loudoun & Fauquier Co. VA, or in lieu of the land to have slaves: Scipio, Bett, Frank & Ned, various named household items & stock animals, after her death divided among my children, Residue of my lands and slaves and divided into 12 parts each of ail my children, daughter Mary Reno & her children to be controlled by my son Elijah, until her husband Zeky Reno dies, Exrs: Charles, Rawleigh, John Chinn, sons & Rawleigh Chain Sr., friend, Wit: Ralph Murray, John French & Daniel French; Book 2, 123. THE PROBLEM AS I SEE is deciphering all these boys. The Peytons, Powells, and Harrisons intermarried in Loudoun and Fauquier, as I have much information on these families as well. It is noteworthy that Charles Downman Chinn's (Rawleigh's son by Margaret) son John Chinn d. in Harrison Co. KY m. Mildred Higgins and their daughter Agnes Ball Chinn m. Frank Smith. Their son Marcus Aurelius Smith was a prosecutor in AZ during the Ok Corral event and went on to become a US Congressman. A KENTUCKY FAMILY. Kentuckian Citizen. Mrs. Frank Smith, aged over 70 years, one of the dozen children of John Chinn, died suddenly Saturday, May 7, at the residence on the Bourbon and Harrison line. The noted New Orleans lawyer, Dick Chinn, was her brother, and the mother of Mrs. William Tell Coleman, the San Francisco merchant was her sister. Mr. Coleman recently visited her. Of her children are Mark Smith, the congressman from Arizona, and Sam. M.Smith, the New York broker, who married a sister of General W. T. Withers, and Dr. Higgins Smith, of Harrison. Her sister, Mrs. Green Bedford, of Missouri, is the last of the dozen children. John and Mildred also had a son Richard Henry Chinn who m. Elizabeth Moore Holmes (first cousins) as she was the daughter of Suckey Chinn (Charles and Scythia's daughter) Honorable Richard Henry Chinn, an attorney. He was the law partner of that noted statesman, Henry Clay. It has been documented that Richard Henry Chinn was the only man with who Henry Clay would ever enter in partnership; Clay was also the only person who presumed to call Richard Henry by the name of "Dick". According to "Aunt Eliza" in "Social Life in Old New Orleans": "My Mother would never have dared to do such a thing". One of the sons of Richard Henry Chinn was named "Henry Clay" after his old law partner. In an article written by Great Aunt Ellen Alvarez Chinn Jarvis Conway, she makes mention of the fact that Henry Clay was a frequent visitor in the Chinn home. On one occasion she made a handkerchief for him which he always carried and used in the process of wiping his hands after taking a pinch of snuff. Richard Henry Chinn served twice in the Kentucky legislature... each time being elected by unanimous vote. The Honorable RICHARD HENRY CHINN married his (third) cousin, ELIZABETH (BETSY) MOORE HOLMES (with who, it is said, he fell in love with when he was six and she was three.) The Mother of ELIZABETH MOORE HOLMES was SUSAN (SUCKY) CHINN, a daughter of the union between CHARLES and SYNTHE CHINN, and sister of JOHN CHINN who married MILDRED HIGGINS. Fourteen children were born to RICHARD HENRY and ELIZABETH MOORE HOLMES CHINN. All of the children were born in Kentucky where he practiced law until approximately 1836. At that date he moved his family to Louisiana and took up his practice in the city of New Orleans. The youngest of the fourteen children of RICHARD HENRY and ELIZABETH MOORE HOLMES CHINN was Elizabeth Moore Chinn McHatton Ripley (Aunt Eliza) author of "from Flag to Flag" and "Social Life in Old New Orleans". Another of their children was Ellen Alvarez Chinn Jarvis Conway, Great-Grandmother of Benjamin Harrison Branch, Jr, author of the "Branch-Harris-Jarvis-Chinn" book of genealogy. The sixth child of the marriage was our Great-Grandfather CABELL BRECKENRIDGE CHINN who married his cousin (third, I am told) JANE McCAULAND. CABELL was educated as an attorney (like his father) and practiced at the bar until some time after his marriage. After that he became a planter of Pointe Coupee Parish in Louisiana. I found all this information trying to figure out why my 4th grandparents son would have been travelling to New Orleans via river boat and who also had brothers in Union Co. KY. I recently came across an old auction/yard sale pirate who came upon a CHINN power of attorney and wanted big bucks for it thinking it was some golden treasure because of this Marcus Aurelius Smith and the association to the Ok Corral and also the Chinn association to George Washington. I got a copy of like the front page of the document and he would not sell it to me. I wanted to get it where it belonged. I was furious. Oh well. Sorry so long, but I will see what I have at home. 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