Jim, I did google this, and came up your own article on it at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/Y-DNA-PROJECTS/2012-04/1335193114 I'll keep trying to find this Stephen Bird article. If you have a link for it, it would be easier if you would post it instead of asking us to go find it. But I'll keep trying. Craig On Feb 20, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Jim Bartlett wrote: > Elmer > > Google: E1b Stephen Bird > to find his article. E1b was in the Fertile Crescent 8,000 yrs ago; concentrated in the Balkans 5,000 yrs ago. From 43-400AD the Romans ruled England and conscripted men from the the Balkans to be part of their occupying force. They also gave them land and let them stay there after their service. So we think any E1b Colonists came that route.