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    1. Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Pre-RevWar Migrations
    2. Elmer thorn
    3. Jim, I am very interested in the E1b1 DNA results coming out of Prince William Co. My DNA is E1b1. I am trying to zero in on where William Thorn came from and settled in Stafford/ Prince William Co around 1700. Seeing your post has me wondering if there were several in that area with E1b1 DNA and maybe possible connections. You are right to say that E1b1 is unusual DNA . Since mine is E1b1 then William Thorn my 4th great grandfather must have been E1b1. We match no other Thorn's in America with DNA. So I am wondering how many descendants on this website might be E1b1 and had ancestors from Northern Neck? Could this be a Scottish or Irish or French DNA that this group of people had? And where did they originate from to that area? Open for dialogue. Elmer Thorn -----Original Message----- From: Jim Bartlett Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 12:33 PM To: va-northern-neck Subject: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Pre-RevWar Migrations I'm looking for a Wagon Train, that probably left Richmond Co, VA in early 1750s to the Carolinas. I've heard the SETTLES were in it. Through circumstantial evidence, Joseph or James BARTLETT, age 20, give or take a few, must have been in it. Thomas BARTLETT had 5 sons in his Will: John (to Culpeper Co c1750), James, Thomas Jr (my ancestor, in Prince William Co c1753), Joseph and Elisha (stayed in Richmond Co, VA). Descendants of John, Thomas Jr and Elisha all have identical DNA tests (and an unusual E1b result). Another exact match can be traced backward from AR to KY to Pendleton Dist, SC c1790 (a Nimrod BARTLETT). So somehow the E1b DNA got from Richmond Co, VA c1750 to SC - almost certainly carried by Joseph (probably) BARTLETT. Does anyone have knowledge of a Wagon Train from Richmond Co, VA, headed south, c1750s? Family names? Time frames? Records? Thanks, Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/20/2013 11:22:03
    1. Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Pre-RevWar Migrations
    2. Jim Bartlett
    3. Elmer Google: E1b Stephen Bird to find his article. E1b was in the Fertile Crescent 8,000 yrs ago; concentrated in the Balkans 5,000 yrs ago. From 43-400AD the Romans ruled England and conscripted men from the the Balkans to be part of their occupying force. They also gave them land and let them stay there after their service. So we think any E1b Colonists came that route. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Feb 20, 2013, at 7:22 PM, "Elmer thorn" <eandmthorn@suddenlink.net> wrote: > Jim, I am very interested in the E1b1 DNA results coming out of Prince > William Co. My DNA is E1b1. I am trying to zero in on where William Thorn > came from and settled in Stafford/ Prince William Co around 1700. Seeing > your post has me wondering if there were several in that area with E1b1 DNA > and maybe possible connections. You are right to say that E1b1 is unusual > DNA . Since mine is E1b1 then William Thorn my 4th great grandfather must > have been E1b1. We match no other Thorn's in America with DNA. So I am > wondering how many descendants on this website might be E1b1 and had > ancestors from Northern Neck? Could this be a Scottish or Irish or French > DNA that this group of people had? And where did they originate from to > that area? Open for dialogue. > Elmer Thorn >

    02/20/2013 01:18:37