Hi gang - I want to make a comment about something that has always bugged me. I have never liked the use of the word 'that' when making reference about a person or a group of people. For example - "the Hancock family is one of the families that married into the King line". In my point, the Hancock family was not a "that", they where people - who, whom. I will try not to fall off of my soapbox. Donald

There will always be varying opinions of such matters, but I believe "that" is gramatically acceptable in this situation.  It would be different if referring to a specific person in which case who or whom would be required. --- On Wed, 2/20/13, King Donald E <donaldeking@me.com> wrote: From: King Donald E <donaldeking@me.com> Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Pre-RevWar Migrations To: va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2013, 5:51 PM Hi gang - I want to make a comment about something that has always bugged me. I have never liked the use of the word 'that' when making reference about a person or a group of people. For example - "the Hancock family is one of the families that married into the King line".  In my point, the Hancock family was not a "that", they where people - who, whom. I will try not to fall off of my soapbox. Donald

Don and gang, That is a good point. THAT is for things. WHO is for people. I also always fight with Microsoft word over the word "which" or "that." It never likes my writing style. And since we are on peeves, one of mine is the use of "who" and "whom". And most grating of all, "He gave the ball to her and I" instead of "her and me." I can never stop myself from correcting people in public on that. Would you say "He gave the ball to I" or would you say "He gave the ball to me." ? Obviously you would say he gave the ball to me. So why would would you say "He gave the ball to her and I." "You" are still the direct object pronoun. But now we are really getting seriously off topic. But I guess we are having fun. I know I am. Craig On Feb 20, 2013, at 6:51 PM, King Donald E wrote: > Hi gang - > > I want to make a comment about something that has always bugged me. > > I have never liked the use of the word 'that' when making reference about a person or a group of people. For example - "the Hancock family is one of the families that married into the King line". > > In my point, the Hancock family was not a "that", they where people - who, whom. > > I will try not to fall off of my soapbox. > > Donald

Hi - again. You happened upon two additional peeves of mind. but you treated them in the asme manner as I do. I hope that my friends will not desert me. That is I was always taught that it is not polite, in addition to not being grammatically correct, to say "Me and Joe did . . .". Also, though grammatically correct to say "I gave Joe the ball . . .". I have never liked to use indirect objects and prefer to ". . . give the ball to Joe". As the mind processes the sentence from start to finish, it was the ball that was given - not Joe". OK - I am getting down from my soapbox and I will stay off unless it is germain. I am glad that Craig updated the title as I forgot to do so when I wrote my first message on this diversion. Donald King On Feb 20, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Craig Kilby wrote: > Don and gang, > > That is a good point. THAT is for things. WHO is for people. I also always fight with Microsoft word over the word "which" or "that." It never likes my writing style. And since we are on peeves, one of mine is the use of "who" and "whom". And most grating of all, "He gave the ball to her and I" instead of "her and me." I can never stop myself from correcting people in public on that. Would you say "He gave the ball to I" or would you say "He gave the ball to me." ? Obviously you would say he gave the ball to me. So why would would you say "He gave the ball to her and I." "You" are still the direct object pronoun. > > But now we are really getting seriously off topic. But I guess we are having fun. I know I am. > > Craig > > > > > On Feb 20, 2013, at 6:51 PM, King Donald E wrote: > >> Hi gang - >> >> I want to make a comment about something that has always bugged me. >> >> I have never liked the use of the word 'that' when making reference about a person or a group of people. For example - "the Hancock family is one of the families that married into the King line". >> >> In my point, the Hancock family was not a "that", they where people - who, whom. >> >> I will try not to fall off of my soapbox. >> >> Donald > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message