Janean and all, Two things: This whole Tarpley tree is confusing under the best of circumstance. When I first talked to Scott about publishing this in the Magazine of Virginia Genealogy, he sent me a draft manuscript and even though I had been working with him for some time, I was confused. I stressed the importance of spelling out the tree explicitly in the introduction to the article, because believe it gets a whole lot more confusing later on. As it stands now, the detailed follow-up article is still in the hands of Barbara Vines Little. She promised in a future issue, but I think even she is still struggling through with it. You are right about the first marriage of Elizabeth Tarpley to Thomas Harwar. Now I'm going to change the subject a little bit because if we think the Tarpley's are confusing, so is the whole Harwar mess. Another recent project for me has been to work on the Strother family, and this line gets drug in and there are some seriously conflicting source documents about who was who. And while I'm at it, I may as well mention that while I was back in Missouri last June I did some research for this same client on her Glascock line in Ralls County. Seems these people just tumble down life's lane like a tangled ball of yarn. I do NOT off-hand remember the conflict with Harwar and/or allied lines but it was pretty serious. I'll try to figure that out and report back. Craig P.S. The only Mayflower descent through Tarpley is through Elizabeth Travers through her mother Frances Allerton. John II Tarpley did have a son James by 2nd wife Elizabeth Ripping, and a son John (Jr.) by Elizabeth Ripping. But John II had no siblings. On Sep 5, 2011, at 5:47 PM, Janean Ray wrote: > I know you meant James Tarpley not James Glascock. I think I found where I > got my misinformation. > > I just found an email I sent to someone last year apparently confusing > brother of John - James, for son of John. BUT I'm still looking to see > where I got that information at..... long ago. But what I found so far was > a 2009 communication with someone who was working on a Mayflower application > for a friend through John Tarpley. She sent me copies of many things. > States she has proof of the half brother of John, son of Elizabeth Ripping, > died in York Co. prior to Feb. 1764. I just found a 2004 email from another > person who supposedly descends from John Tarpley #2, brother to my Travers > Tarpley... and he m. Ann Griffin d/o Thomas Griffin.. and gave me the line > of descent to her. > > Ok in looking through my Mayflower book I see where it confirms that > Elizabeth Travers died shortly after having twins b. 28 May 1720. She m. 1 > Thomas Harwar..and had Elizabeth, Ann and Frances Harwar. She m. 2. John > Tarpley....they had twins John and Elizabeth. HE m. 2. Elizabeth Ripping > having then Edward, James, John and Tertius Quintus. > > On 23 Nov. 1704 Thomas Harwar of Essex Co. Va planter, aged 25, deposed in > London Eng. about the will of his father Thomas Harwar of Essex Co. who died > 23 March 1703/4. > > The will of Thomas Harwar dated 25 May 1713, proved 8 Oct. 1713, names > daus. Elizabeth and Frances and an unborn child. > > On 19 Sept. 1721 John Tarpley Jr. reported to the Essex Co. Court that his > wife died intestate and instigated a suit against Leonard Hill, Gent. as > exec. of Thomas Harwar, dec. >

I know what you mean... and when I've tried to sort these people out.... especially when I was working on my Mayflower line and the Travers... omg, I pretty much had to lay them out like a jigsaw puzzle.... you get your corner pieces and build your frame..... then start putting all your associated people/pieces in various matching piles and then begin to match them up. And like any jigsaw puzzle and we've ALL done it... you are sure that piece fits and try as you might it is either just too tight or obviously too loose despite it appearing to be a complete match.... no matter how many times you try to force it, it just isn't the right one. And like all jigsaw puzzles you finally start getting pieces put together and just when it looks like you're about to complete the puzzle...... BAM...... there's a piece missing...... awwwww man! LOL Janean -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Craig Kilby Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 7:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Tarpleys/Harwar (was Tarpley/Glascock) Janean and all, Two things: This whole Tarpley tree is confusing under the best of circumstance.