Hannah Fox, dau. of David Fox d 1669, married Capt John Mottrom. Their son was Spencer Mottrom Sr, who m. Sarah Young and had Spencer Jr and Mary. David Fox d 1669 is the father of David (1647-1702) who m. Hannah Ball. Carolyn H. Jett, _Heathsville, yesterday and today_ (Woman's Club of Northumberland County, Heathsville, VA, 1980), p. 43: "By 1705, Spencer was dead, and his daughter Mary Mottrom chose Richard Ball as her guardian. (ob1699-1713:344) Soon afterward, Mary, daughter of Spencer Mottrom, became the wife of Joseph Ball. (ob1699-1713:451) Evidence will be presented later to show that some of Spencer Mottrom's Black Point property went into the hands of the heirs of Joseph and Mary Mottrom Ball. . . . "Now let us turn to Mottrom's land which went into the possession of the Ball family when Joseph Ball married Mary Mottrom. By 1721, Joseph Ball was dead. In his will, he left land to his daughter Sarah on condition that his 'loving wife' would give each of their sons, Joseph and William Ball, 'part of her lands at Black Point.' (rb1718-1726:225) "The next mention of Black Point comes in the year 1767, in the will of Spencer Ball. To his son Jesse, he bequeathed 'the upper part of my land called Black Point containing 400 acres.' But if Jesse died without male issue, the land was to go to Spencer's son William Ball. (rb7:50) In 1769, Jesse Ball died, presumably without issue, as he left his property to his brother James and a brother-in-law. (rb7:325) This meant that the Black Point property would go to William Ball, as directed by his father's will, which entailed the property." On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 Janean wrote: > > > May I inquire before I input David Fox-1 if you know, who he was married > to. > THIS David Fox-2 is the only one I have. I only had as children Hannah and > William so changing my database will be easy enough but I had Hannah as m. > to Spencer Mottrom s/o John.... with daughter Mary who m. Joseph Ball and > William Loury. > > With Mary Mottrom and Capt. Joseph Ball b. 15 Oct. 1680 d. 11 Sept. 1721. > I show 5 children one of which and probably 1st born is Col. Spencer Ball > b. > 14 Mar 1707. and another son William Ball m. Hannah Kenner. > > SO if Hannah Fox didn't m. Spencer Mottrom I have a line of descent really > really wrong. > > Can I get clarification on this Spencer Mottrom gentleman and exactly who > he > married if not Hannah Fox-2 and where this line truly belongs? Because > once > I change what I have to what you have..... this line is out there dangling. > >

All this information is getting me confused. David(1) d. 1669 m. Mary Unknown and had David (2) b. 1647 d. 1702 m Hannah Ball. Hannah m. John2 Mottrom Rebecca m. Robert Tomlin Hannah and John Mottrom had Spencer... Who m. Sarah Young and they had Spencer Jr. and Mary. Spencer-1 dies and daughter Mary picks Richard Ball as her guardian... But then soon marries Joseph Ball. OK so I have Mary and Joseph's marriage correct, I'm just mixed up on the marriage of Spencer. However...... The Richard Ball that was most likely the guardian..... I show Sarah Young m. Capt. Richard Ball abt. 1700. The same time Spencer died coincidentally. So DID Sarah m. Richard after the death of Spencer and go on to have Margaret Ball (William Ball) Sarah Ball (John Selden) Hannah Ball and Easter Ball? Now..... David-1 then m. Ann Mottrom daughter of John-1 so she is sister-in-law to Hannah Fox Mottrom. SO was Spencer Mottrom the son of John-2 and Hannah Fox Mottrom. OK I'm following along now. I had to put Kathleen and Craig's emails together. Craig I very much like the way you lay it out in a line of descent version with the 1,2 etc. Much more succinct. I get lost in A.D.D. land. LOL So the question right now...... DID Sarah Young m. Richard Ball after Spencer died? Would make sense as to why Mary chose him as guardian. I know we aren't discussint so much these lines right now but in order for me to fix what Craig is about to begin laying before us....... I need to have my ducks in a row or nothing will match and will be a confusing mess to clean up later. Janean -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kathleen Much Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Fox/Mottrom Hannah Fox, dau. of David Fox d 1669, married Capt John Mottrom. Their son was Spencer Mottrom Sr, who m. Sarah Young and had Spencer Jr and Mary. David Fox d 1669 is the father of David (1647-1702) who m. Hannah Ball. Carolyn H. Jett, _Heathsville, yesterday and today_ (Woman's Club of Northumberland County, Heathsville, VA, 1980), p. 43: "By 1705, Spencer was dead, and his daughter Mary Mottrom chose Richard Ball as her guardian. (ob1699-1713:344) Soon afterward, Mary, daughter of Spencer Mottrom, became the wife of Joseph Ball. (ob1699-1713:451) Evidence will be presented later to show that some of Spencer Mottrom's Black Point property went into the hands of the heirs of Joseph and Mary Mottrom Ball. . . . "Now let us turn to Mottrom's land which went into the possession of the Ball family when Joseph Ball married Mary Mottrom. By 1721, Joseph Ball was dead. In his will, he left land to his daughter Sarah on condition that his 'loving wife' would give each of their sons, Joseph and William Ball, 'part of her lands at Black Point.' (rb1718-1726:225) "The next mention of Black Point comes in the year 1767, in the will of Spencer Ball. To his son Jesse, he bequeathed 'the upper part of my land called Black Point containing 400 acres.' But if Jesse died without male issue, the land was to go to Spencer's son William Ball. (rb7:50) In 1769, Jesse Ball died, presumably without issue, as he left his property to his brother James and a brother-in-law. (rb7:325) This meant that the Black Point property would go to William Ball, as directed by his father's will, which entailed the property." On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 Janean wrote: > > > May I inquire before I input David Fox-1 if you know, who he was > married to. > THIS David Fox-2 is the only one I have. I only had as children > Hannah and William so changing my database will be easy enough but I had Hannah as m. > to Spencer Mottrom s/o John.... with daughter Mary who m. Joseph Ball > and William Loury. > > With Mary Mottrom and Capt. Joseph Ball b. 15 Oct. 1680 d. 11 Sept. 1721. > I show 5 children one of which and probably 1st born is Col. Spencer > Ball b. > 14 Mar 1707. and another son William Ball m. Hannah Kenner. > > SO if Hannah Fox didn't m. Spencer Mottrom I have a line of descent > really really wrong. > > Can I get clarification on this Spencer Mottrom gentleman and exactly > who he married if not Hannah Fox-2 and where this line truly belongs? > Because once I change what I have to what you have..... this line is > out there dangling. > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am afraid I am not making myself clear, Kattheen. We at MVWML have acess to every one of all hese boosk and lcoal county recrods, , and then some. I apologize for aksking in advance. I was hoping ing for a well compiled study. Dumb question on my part. I aplogogize. Not to be rude, but we don't need to be told what we already have and know. Craig In fact, given, that is just w\\\\\\\\\ On Sep 14, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Kathleen Much wrote: > Hannah Fox, dau. of David Fox d 1669, married Capt John Mottrom. Their son > was Spencer Mottrom Sr, who m. Sarah Young and had Spencer Jr and Mary. > David Fox d 1669 is the father of David (1647-1702) who m. Hannah Ball. > > Carolyn H. Jett, _Heathsville, yesterday and today_ (Woman's Club of > Northumberland County, Heathsville, VA, 1980), p. 43: " he was married >> >> to.tsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >