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    1. Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Correction re Tarpley
    2. Janean Ray
    3. I will enjoy reading these articles, but can I purchase them individually or do I need to subscribe? How can I get them? John Tarpley Jr. and Elizabeth Travers were my 7th Great-grandparents through their son Travers Tarpley. To my knowledge, John and Elizabeth Ripping had sons Edward, James and Tertius Quintus Ripping. Her father Edward Ripping whose will made May 12, 1734 named his daughter and three of his grandsons Edward, James and Quintus. John's will distribution of slaves mentions Travers, Edward, James and John. The estate was settled in 1745. Tertius had died prior to that however he was named in his grandmother Mary Ripping's will 23 Aug. 1744. Mary Ripping mentions her other three grandsons James, Quintus and John and leaves them property that they are to receive as they attain the age of twenty one years. So my question is... if Elizabeth Travers d. after 28 May 1720 and John Tarpley m. shortly thereafter Elizabeth Ripping...... c. 1721/22 it sounds to me that the child John was that of Elizabeth Ripping and John Tarpley and not him having a John by both women. There is no mention of John in Edward Rippings will in 1734 however there was a John named in the distribution of slaves of his father in 1745. I show Edward Ripping Tarpley as born 19 Apr. 1727 if John Tarpley III was born say in 1734 or later he would have only been 7 years younger than Edward. So the listing I have for the children of John Tarpley Jr. and Elizabeth Travers as Maj. Travers Tarpley, John Tarpley III and Elizabeth Tarpley (the last two I show as being twins? Born 28 May 1720) Not sure right now why I have the same birth date for them but I am now thinking John Tarpley III belonged to his father's second marriage. Thoughts? Janean -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Craig Kilby Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 9:26 PM To: Northern Neck Northern Neck List Subject: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Correction re Tarpley Hi all, Scott Tracy asks me to make a correction to my previous post: <<Craig, One correction to your note. Elizabeth Ripping was the second wife of John Tarpley, Jr., a Kings Attorney. John Tarpley, Jr. was the son of John Tarpley, Sr. a Burgess, and his first wife, Elizabeth Glascock. (I know it's confusing...) Scott>> And, if I have this part right, the first wife of John Tarpley, Jr. was Elizabeth Travers, a daughter of Samuel Travers and Frances ALLERTON. His second wife was Elizabeth Ripping. And he had sons named John by BOTH wives, who were both named Elizabeth. Confusing--yes! It's been a while since I've worked with Scott on this, so please excuse my rusty memory. I think I am also remiss in my comments about Thomas Tarpley of Richmond County being a Tory. I'm hoping Scott will jump in clarify. Thanks for you understanding, Craig ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/04/2011 05:46:07
    1. Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Correction re Tarpley
    2. Craig Kilby
    3. Janean: (1) I was mistaken in that Scott Tracy was a member of this list. He was not. But, he has asked to be subscribed which I have done, and I will let him address many of these issues. On Sep 4, 2011, at 11:46 PM, Janean Ray wrote: > I will enjoy reading these articles, but can I purchase them individually or > do I need to subscribe? How can I get them? I will let Scott address that question. When one publishes for the Magazine of Virginia Genealogy there are certain copyright issues involved, though those are negotiable, and I had no part in his dealings on that subject with them. > > John Tarpley Jr. and Elizabeth Travers were my 7th Great-grandparents > through their son Travers Tarpley. > > To my knowledge, John and Elizabeth Ripping had sons Edward, James and > Tertius Quintus Ripping. Her father Edward Ripping whose will made May 12, > 1734 named his daughter and three of his grandsons Edward, James and > Quintus. There were five children. You omitted Elizabeth who died young and John, Jr. (2nd of the name, d. 1763, with no children. He is the one Colonial Williamsburg says was the father of William and Thomas, but clearly Elizabeth Ripping Tarpley's will dispels that notion) This 2nd John is what has caused so much confusion, because there was "John The Elder" son of the first marriage to Elizabeth Travers. This is the thrust of Scott's research and future articles. > > John's will distribution of slaves mentions Travers, Edward, James and John. > The estate was settled in 1745. Tertius had died prior to that however he > was named in his grandmother Mary Ripping's will 23 Aug. 1744. Mary Ripping > mentions her other three grandsons James, Quintus and John and leaves them > property that they are to receive as they attain the age of twenty one > years. See above > > So my question is... if Elizabeth Travers d. after 28 May 1720 and John > Tarpley m. shortly thereafter Elizabeth Ripping...... c. 1721/22 it sounds > to me that the child John was that of Elizabeth Ripping and John Tarpley and > not him having a John by both women. There is no mention of John in Edward > Rippings will in 1734 however there was a John named in the distribution of > slaves of his father in 1745. See above. He indeed did have two sons both named John--John the Elder and John Jr.--, by two different wives, both named Elizabeth. This has been hashed out pretty well by Scott, and supporting "opinion" was in an addendum that George H. S. King wrote to his "Marriages of Richmond County" in which this is explained. While I'm at it, "Tory Tom" Tarpley, the Doctor who later came back to Richmond County, was the son of "Elder John" Tarpley. In essence, we have: John Tarpley I mar (three times, but only had one child by wife Elizabeth Glascock: John Tarpley II mar (1) Elizabeth Travers by whom (among others) "John The Elder" mar (2) Elizabeth Ripping by whom (among others) "John Jr." I'm sure Scott will help to clarify this. Craig

    09/04/2011 07:09:00