You can view World Connect for free. If you are lucky and patient, you may well find decent information with what we would call sources, or better yet a confession that the author is not sure of a certain listing. When I see a "tree" with thousands of names, I run. I once sent them a message asking why they cannot create better categories of what they call "sources". At present they list FTM files, LDS and whatever as a "source". Of course I received no answer. They are in business to achieve the greatest number of hits. That is why the ads, which take forever to load, are there. It is dreary, but then so are a lot of "sources" printed in hardcover for family glorification. This is why historians, often unfairly, view genealogists as poor stepchildren to be lodged in the scullery. On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Janean Ray <[email protected]> wrote: > I totally agree with you on being part of the solution and taking the > offense..... However.. What I'm saying is.. People take what is on line as > gospel. I think it's a step in the right direction. I had Ancestry for a > few years for research....... I was lucky to have gotten it at a greatly > reduced rate due to an error by the guy signing me up.... Unfortunately I > had to let my subscription go. I hear a lot of people complaining about > what happens to their stuff once its uploaded.... So that scares me. I > don't know enough about it. But my question is...... If invited.... Do you > have be subscribed to veiw it? I don't think so as I believe someone once > sent me an invite but there again..... With anyone having the ability to > upload their stuff (people LOVE seeing themselves online) its still a > matter > of proving it yourself. I am totally all for correct information getting > out > there... What I'm saying is.... Just on this list alone..... There has been > bickering over whose source is a better one..... So I'm just saying..... In > theory it sounds like a great plan.... But some people will STILL use the > source information that works for them so be prepared that one person can't > change the world.... But one person can possibly make a difference. Its > worth a try....because right now..... Doing something positive is better > than letting the weeds keep growing. I'm on board.... Just playing devil's > advocate > > > Janean Ray > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Bartlett > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 5:06 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] We have a golden opportunity tobuild > alastinglegacy for Northern Neck Families. > > > Janean, > > Some of what you point out may be true, but the other side of the coin is > that a lot of good research is on Ancestry, AND it has a good suite of > tools > that are integrated with teh trees to let you find records and attach > them > to your trees; add pictures of people and/or tombstones, etc. and add in > writen documents expaining what you've done and why. Of course there are > some who just mine the info and have no idea if it's right or wrong. But > we > can't stop that. What we can do, is put up well documented info - in > other > words: rather than duck or hide from the issues, go on the offensive and > post to the best of our ability. As a group, we would be open to peer > review, and could correct (and document) the info, just as has been > happening on this list. > > Let this group be part of the solution. > > > Jim Bartlett > > On 09/23/11, Janean Ray<[email protected]> wrote: > I'm a little suspicious of why anyone would want to upload their entire > database to places like ancestry and say world connect.... Nothing is > EVER > fully proven and therefore subject to just continually passing along > wrong > information. I have had people take my information and upload it to World > Connect and at this very minute my LIVING mother is listed on there. I > have > seen hoards of my information on there that someone got a hold of very > early > on in my research and put it on World Connect and its totally now wrong. > Ancesty I've heard then OWNS your information and people have tried to > remove it or make corrections and can't... I don't know the details > because > it didn't involve me but I've also seen people who "collect" names and > families..... And don't care where they get the information. 20+ thousand > people in a database seems a little suspicious to me. I've seen that on > World Connect and I've gone into people's pages...... And somehow always > seem to find my family attached to them. > Janean > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

When I first started genealogy I wanted to know about my father's parentage especially HIS father.... As we knew very little. I typed in my search browser GENEALOGY and found Rootsweb. From there I found World Connect. WHAT a goldmine (I thought). Yes World Connect is good to get you started.... And good for a basis to connect to people but that's where it ends. You might, as you say, find decent information if you try hard enough and have patience. Fortunately for me I found some AMAZING people and from them I found USGENWEB and all their state and county sites as well as message boards and these lists. Rootsweb is a must for a beginner because everything is there to get you started. I can't imagine how hard this was for our predecessors before computers. Facebook will now be another wonderful tool I think. Janean -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Edward White Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 11:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] We have a golden opportunity tobuild alastinglegacy for Northern Neck Families. You can view World Connect for free. If you are lucky and patient, you may well find decent information with what we would call sources, or better yet a confession that the author is not sure of a certain listing. When I see a "tree" with thousands of names, I run. I once sent them a message asking why they cannot create better categories of what they call "sources". At present they list FTM files, LDS and whatever as a "source". Of course I received no answer. They are in business to achieve the greatest number of hits. That is why the ads, which take forever to load, are there. It is dreary, but then so are a lot of "sources" printed in hardcover for family glorification. This is why historians, often unfairly, view genealogists as poor stepchildren to be lodged in the scullery. On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Janean Ray <[email protected]> wrote: > I totally agree with you on being part of the solution and taking the > offense..... However.. What I'm saying is.. People take what is on > line as gospel. I think it's a step in the right direction. I had > Ancestry for a few years for research....... I was lucky to have > gotten it at a greatly reduced rate due to an error by the guy signing > me up.... Unfortunately I had to let my subscription go. I hear a lot > of people complaining about what happens to their stuff once its > uploaded.... So that scares me. I don't know enough about it. But my > question is...... If invited.... Do you have be subscribed to veiw it? > I don't think so as I believe someone once sent me an invite but there > again..... With anyone having the ability to upload their stuff > (people LOVE seeing themselves online) its still a matter of proving > it yourself. I am totally all for correct information getting out > there... What I'm saying is.... Just on this list alone..... There has > been bickering over whose source is a better one..... So I'm just > saying..... In theory it sounds like a great plan.... But some people > will STILL use the source information that works for them so be > prepared that one person can't change the world.... But one person can > possibly make a difference. Its worth a try....because right now..... > Doing something positive is better than letting the weeds keep > growing. I'm on board.... Just playing devil's advocate > > > Janean Ray > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim > Bartlett > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 5:06 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] We have a golden opportunity tobuild > alastinglegacy for Northern Neck Families. > > > Janean, > > Some of what you point out may be true, but the other side of the coin is > that a lot of good research is on Ancestry, AND it has a good suite > of tools > that are integrated with teh trees to let you find records and > attach them > to your trees; add pictures of people and/or tombstones, etc. and add in > writen documents expaining what you've done and why. Of course there are > some who just mine the info and have no idea if it's right or wrong. > But we > can't stop that. What we can do, is put up well documented info - in > other > words: rather than duck or hide from the issues, go on the offensive and > post to the best of our ability. As a group, we would be open to peer > review, and could correct (and document) the info, just as has been > happening on this list. > > Let this group be part of the solution. > > > Jim Bartlett > > On 09/23/11, Janean Ray<[email protected]> wrote: > I'm a little suspicious of why anyone would want to upload their entire > database to places like ancestry and say world connect.... Nothing > is EVER > fully proven and therefore subject to just continually passing along > wrong > information. I have had people take my information and upload it to World > Connect and at this very minute my LIVING mother is listed on there. > I have > seen hoards of my information on there that someone got a hold of > very early > on in my research and put it on World Connect and its totally now wrong. > Ancesty I've heard then OWNS your information and people have tried to > remove it or make corrections and can't... I don't know the details > because > it didn't involve me but I've also seen people who "collect" names and > families..... And don't care where they get the information. 20+ thousand > people in a database seems a little suspicious to me. I've seen that on > World Connect and I've gone into people's pages...... And somehow always > seem to find my family attached to them. > Janean > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message