I show 9 of the 10 including the two who died. So I'm missing one. Francis b. 12 Oct. 1709 Sarah b. 13 Jan 1711 Eve b. 24 Dec. 1713 Jesse b. 27 Jun 1716 d. 11 Aug. 1747 m. Mary Smith d/o J. Phillip Smith and who also m. Col. John Lee and John Smith. Here lyeth interred the body of Jesse Ball Gent. He was born 27th day of June 1716 and departed this life the 11th day of Aug. 1747, in the 32nd year of his age James b. 31 Dec. 1718 d. 24 Nov. 1789 m. Mildred UNK Here lieth the body of Mildred Ball Wife of James Ball Jun'r, Gent. who departed this life the 1st day of Dec'r 1751 in the 26th year of her age leaving one son and three daughter, having faithfully discharged the several duties incumbent on a wife and parent, a neighbour & a christian. In memory of (drawing of a willow tree in between two vertical tombstones) Col. James Ball 2nd son of James & Mary BAll, his 2nd wife daughter of Edwin Conway. Born Dec. 31st, 1718. Died Nov'r 24th, 1789. Mary b. 6 Apr 1721 Edwin b. 1723 Jeduthan b. 9 Jul 1725 d. 5 Mar. 1749 m. Elizabeth Fox UNK parents. Here lies the Body of Mr. Jeduthan Ball son of Col. James Ball of Lancaster Co. Born the 9th day of July, 1725, and died the 5th day of March, 1749, in the 25th year of his age. Jeduthan Ball was the fourth son of Col. James Ball and Mary Conway, and was brother to James and Jesse Ball, whose tombs are near his own. He marreid Elizabeth Fox, and was father of Col. Burgess Ball, of the Revolution. Sinah b. 14 Feb 1727 Which child am I missing? I probably have them lingering out there in my database awaiting a connection to a family. Janean -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Craig Kilby Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] David-2 Fox & Hannah Ball Kathleen, There is none, and I am in error here. I am trying to clean up these data bases and getting the facts correct. This is one that still needs to be cleaned up. As I noted earlier, she was nee CHINN, daughter of John-1 and Alice Chinn. I apologize. You can imagine the problems with such a large amount of data to sift through. I am having a difficult time keeping these ladies sorted out. It was Mary Conway who married (1) John Daingerfield and (2) James-4 Ball of Bewdley, by whom 8 surviving children per her tombstone at St. Mary's White Chapel, out of a total of ten (two died in infancy--Mary first of the name, and Edwin). What we learned here is that by her first husband, Mary had a son named John Daingerfield, Jr. I don't he lived long. Not sure on that yet. To your relief, however, I am glad to report that your McCarty book, and the tombstone of Mary (Conway) Daingerfield Ball have at last been reconciled. Please, please, please correct me at any time. We all make mistakes. Craig On Sep 14, 2011, at 11:27 AM, Kathleen Much wrote: > What's the evidence that Ann was nee > Daingerfield? Ann's sister Frances was married to a Daingerfield. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My notes below. I am numbering them here to see where we are off base--frankly, we are not off base except you counted James twice: Begin forwarded message: > From: "Janean Ray" <[email protected]> > Date: September 15, 2011 3:31:39 PM EDT > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Mary Conway and James Ball > Reply-To: [email protected] > > I show 9 of the 10 including the two who died. So I'm missing one. > > (1) Mary F. Conway, b. 23 Feb 1708/9. Died as infant > (2) Francis b. 12 Oct. 1709 Daughter #1 > (3) Sarah b. 13 Jan 1711 Daughter #2 > (4) Eve b. 24 Dec. 1713 Daughter #3 > (5) Jesse b. 27 Jun 1716 d. 11 Aug. 1747 Son #1 > (6) James b. 31 Dec. 1718 d. 24 Nov. 1789 m. Mildred UNK Son #2 (BTW, he married twice but that's another story) > > (7) Col. James Ball 2nd son of James & Mary BAll, his 2nd wife daughter of Edwin > Conway. Born Dec. 31st, 1718. Died Nov'r 24th, 1789. You've counted him twice. Just one son James, #6 on this list, and son #2 for Mary Conway > > Mary b. 6 Apr 1721 Daughter #4 SHE IS QUESTIONABLE AND NOT RESOLVED. I frankly think she needs to omitted from this list. > Edwin b. 1723 DIED YOUNG (Do not know when exactly, no further record) > Jeduthan b. 9 Jul 1725 d. 5 Mar. 1749 m. Elizabeth Fox UNK parents. Son #3. His wife was Elizabeth BURGESS (not FOX), daughter of Charles BURGESS and Frances FOX. > > Sinah b. 14 Feb 1727 Daughter #5 (She married Col. Daniel McCarty) > > Which child am I missing? OK, you have the three sons, and you have the five daughters. They are all correct. You are not missing anybody. CONGRATULATIONS! You have scored a perfect score! Three sons, Five daughters WHOM SHE LEFT BEHIND. Don't include the two babies which makes ten children. > I probably have them lingering out there in my > database awaiting a connection to a family. > > > > Janean > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Craig Kilby > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:16 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] David-2 Fox & Hannah Ball > > Kathleen, > > There is none, and I am in error here. I am trying to clean up these data > bases and getting the facts correct. This is one that still needs to be > cleaned up. As I noted earlier, she was nee CHINN, daughter of John-1 and > Alice Chinn. I apologize. You can imagine the problems with such a large > amount of data to sift through. > > I am having a difficult time keeping these ladies sorted out. It was Mary > Conway who married (1) John Daingerfield and (2) James-4 Ball of Bewdley, by > whom 8 surviving children per her tombstone at St. Mary's White Chapel, out > of a total of ten (two died in infancy--Mary first of the name, and Edwin). > What we learned here is that by her first husband, Mary had a son named John > Daingerfield, Jr. I don't he lived long. Not sure on that yet. > > To your relief, however, I am glad to report that your McCarty book, and the > tombstone of Mary (Conway) Daingerfield Ball have at last been reconciled. > Please, please, please correct me at any time. We all make mistakes. > > > Craig > > On Sep 14, 2011, at 11:27 AM, Kathleen Much wrote: > >> What's the evidence that Ann was nee >> Daingerfield? Ann's sister Frances was married to a Daingerfield. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    James Ball's 1754 will and Richard Ball's 1727 will both show a daughter Selden.    Richard's daughter Sarah married John Selden and one of James Ball's daughters married an unknown Selden   Which daughter was James referring to as "Selden"?     James Ball's 1754 <snip>:   Item I give to my Daughter Sinah and my four grand Sons viz. Jesse Ball son of my Daughter Frances, James Ewell and James Ewell son of Eve Ewell and John Selden and their heirs five thousand acres of land in Prince Wm County to be laid off at the upper end of my mountain tract to them and their heirs equally amongst them. Item I give to my daughter Selden and her heirs ye land I bought of Benjamin Taylor. Item I give to my five Daughters all my household goods except my plate. The best bed and furniture which I give to my Son James.   Richard Ball's 1727 <snip>: Item I give to my daughter Sarah Selden my plantation where on I now live and my water mill & all the land that lays be low that road from colo. Willm Balls mill to Cundiffs to her and the heirs forever lawfully begotten and for want of such heirs then to my daughter Margaret Ball & the second heirs male of her and my Son in law Wm Ball Jun'rs body lawfully begotten forever and for want of such then to the heirs male of their two bodies lawfully begotten & to the second son of that heir male & his heirs male forever Lawfully begotten From: Janean Ray <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:31 PM >Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Mary Conway and James Ball > >I show 9 of the 10 including the two who died. So I'm missing one. > >Francis b. 12 Oct. 1709 >Sarah b. 13 Jan 1711 >Eve b. 24 Dec. 1713 >Jesse b. 27 Jun 1716 d. 11 Aug. 1747 m. Mary Smith d/o J. Phillip Smith and >who also m. Col. John Lee and John Smith.  Here lyeth interred the body of >Jesse Ball Gent. He was born 27th day of June 1716 and departed this life >the 11th day of Aug. 1747, in the 32nd year of his age >James b. 31 Dec. 1718 d. 24 Nov. 1789 m. Mildred UNK  Here lieth the body >of Mildred Ball Wife of James Ball Jun'r, Gent. who departed this life the >1st day of Dec'r 1751 in the 26th year of her age leaving one son and three >daughter, having faithfully discharged the several duties incumbent on a >wife and parent, a neighbour & a christian. > >In memory of (drawing of a willow tree in between two vertical tombstones) > >Col. James Ball 2nd son of James & Mary BAll, his 2nd wife daughter of Edwin >Conway.  Born Dec. 31st, 1718.  Died Nov'r 24th, 1789.  > >Mary b. 6 Apr 1721 >Edwin b. 1723 >Jeduthan b. 9 Jul 1725 d. 5 Mar. 1749 m. Elizabeth Fox UNK parents.  Here >lies the Body of Mr. Jeduthan Ball son of Col. James Ball of Lancaster Co. >Born the 9th day of July, 1725, and died the 5th day of March, 1749, in the >25th year of his age. > >Jeduthan Ball was the fourth son of Col. James Ball and Mary Conway, and was >brother to James and Jesse Ball, whose tombs are near his own.  He marreid >Elizabeth Fox, and was father of Col. Burgess Ball, of the Revolution. > >Sinah b. 14 Feb 1727 > >Which child am I missing?  I probably have them lingering out there in my >database awaiting a connection to a family. > > > >Janean > >

ok I think I figured it out.... Richard Sheldon married Mary Ball   === Abstracts of Lancaster County, Virginia Wills [Ida J. Lee] BALL, Sarah. Will. 6 Aug. 1742. Rec. 10 Sept. 1742. Legatees: Daus. Easter Glascock, Margaret Ball, John Selden, Gr. son Wm. Montague, Gr. dau. Frances Lawry. Extr. Wm. Glasscock. Mention is made of a marriage betw. her gr. son Richard Selden and the dau. of James Ball. Wits. Margaret Williamson, Eliz. McTire and Wm. Ball. W.B. 13, p. 301. === Abstracts of Lancaster County, Virginia Wills [Ida J. Lee] SELDEN, Richard. 27 Jan. 1769. Rec. 17 Jan. 1771. Wife: Mary Selden. Son: James. "If he should die before his present wife, then executors to sell so much of estate of sd son James as will comply with a contract of marriage between Col. James Ball and myself in behalf of our children." Sons: John & Richard, 1000 acres of land in Fauquier Co. left him by his grandfather, Maj. James Ball. Exors: Wife and 3 sons, James, John & Richard. Wits: Thos. Brent, Mils Ball, John Taylor. W.B. 20, p. 8. From: mike marshall <[email protected]> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 7:36 AM >Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Mary Conway and James Ball > > >  >  >James Ball's 1754 will and Richard Ball's 1727 will both show a daughter Selden.  >  >Richard's daughter Sarah married John Selden and one of James Ball's daughters married an unknown Selden >  >Which daughter was James referring to as "Selden"? > > >James Ball's 1754 <snip>: > >Item I give to my Daughter Sinah and my four grand Sons viz. Jesse Ball son of my Daughter Frances, James Ewell and James Ewell son of Eve Ewell and John Selden and their heirs five thousand acres of land in Prince Wm County to be laid off at the upper end of my mountain tract to them and their heirs equally amongst them. >Item I give to my daughter Selden and her heirs ye land I bought of Benjamin Taylor. >Item I give to my five Daughters all my household goods except my plate. The best bed and furniture which I give to my Son James. > >Richard Ball's 1727 <snip>: > >Item I give to my daughter Sarah Selden my plantation where on I now live and my water mill & all the land that lays be low that road from colo. Willm Balls mill to Cundiffs to her and the heirs forever lawfully begotten and for want of such heirs then to my daughter Margaret Ball & the second heirs male of her and my Son in law Wm Ball Jun'rs body lawfully begotten forever and for want of such then to the heirs male of their two bodies lawfully begotten & to the second son of that heir male & his heirs male forever Lawfully begotten >From: Janean Ray <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:31 PM >>Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Mary Conway and James Ball >> >>I show 9 of the 10 including the two who died. So I'm missing one. >> >>Francis b. 12 Oct. 1709 >>Sarah b. 13 Jan 1711 >>Eve b. 24 Dec. 1713 >>Jesse b. 27 Jun 1716 d. 11 Aug. 1747 m. Mary Smith d/o J. Phillip Smith and >>who also m. Col. John Lee and John Smith.  Here lyeth interred the body of >>Jesse Ball Gent. He was born 27th day of June 1716 and departed this life >>the 11th day of Aug. 1747, in the 32nd year of his age >>James b. 31 Dec. 1718 d. 24 Nov. 1789 m. Mildred UNK  Here lieth the body >>of Mildred Ball Wife of James Ball Jun'r, Gent. who departed this life the >>1st day of Dec'r 1751 in the 26th year of her age leaving one son and three >>daughter, having faithfully discharged the several duties incumbent on a >>wife and parent, a neighbour & a christian. >> >>In memory of (drawing of a willow tree in between two vertical tombstones) >> >>Col. James Ball 2nd son of James & Mary BAll, his 2nd wife daughter of Edwin >>Conway.  Born Dec. 31st, 1718.  Died Nov'r 24th, 1789.  >> >>Mary b. 6 Apr 1721 >>Edwin b. 1723 >>Jeduthan b. 9 Jul 1725 d. 5 Mar. 1749 m. Elizabeth Fox UNK parents.  Here >>lies the Body of Mr. Jeduthan Ball son of Col. James Ball of Lancaster Co. >>Born the 9th day of July, 1725, and died the 5th day of March, 1749, in the >>25th year of his age. >> >>Jeduthan Ball was the fourth son of Col. James Ball and Mary Conway, and was >>brother to James and Jesse Ball, whose tombs are near his own.  He marreid >>Elizabeth Fox, and was father of Col. Burgess Ball, of the Revolution. >> >>Sinah b. 14 Feb 1727 >> >>Which child am I missing?  I probably have them lingering out there in my >>database awaiting a connection to a family. >> >> >> >>Janean >> >> > >

Mike, this is correct. She was the daughter of Maj. James Ball of Bewdley and his 2nd wife Mary Conway. This brings up two omissions in both Peggy Hill's book and Ida J. Lee's abstract of the will of James Ball. It is true that James Ball's 1754 will names on one Selden grandson: John to whom land in [then] Prince William County, and that is the only Peggy Hill lists for this couple. However, the 1771 will of Richard Selden names three sons: James, John and Richard (who m. Elizabeth CHINN, d/o John Chinn & Sarah Yates.). To sons John and Richard, he leaves 1,000 of land in Fauquier County (formed 1759 from Pr. William) "left to him by his grandfather Major James Ball." by "him" he means his son John Selden. Richard is probably entitled to a share since other language in this will refers to a marriage contract between himself and Col James Ball "in behalf of our children. and this implies that James Selden was a son by previous marriage. This contract is also referred to in the will of of Sarah Ball you cite below. I am assuming the 1742 will of Sarah Ball is for Sarah (Young) Ball, widow of Richard-3 Ball. Craig On Sep 18, 2011, at 8:27 AM, mike marshall wrote: > ok I think I figured it out.... Richard Sheldon married Mary Ball > > === > Abstracts of Lancaster County, Virginia Wills [Ida J. Lee] > BALL, Sarah. Will. 6 Aug. 1742. Rec. 10 Sept. 1742. > Legatees: Daus. Easter Glascock, Margaret Ball, John Selden, Gr. son Wm. Montague, Gr. dau. Frances Lawry. Extr. Wm. Glasscock. Mention is made of a marriage betw. her gr. son Richard Selden and the dau. of James Ball. Wits. Margaret Williamson, Eliz. McTire and Wm. Ball. W.B. 13, p. 301. > === > Abstracts of Lancaster County, Virginia Wills [Ida J. Lee] > SELDEN, Richard. 27 Jan. 1769. Rec. 17 Jan. 1771. > Wife: Mary Selden. Son: James. "If he should die before his present wife, then executors to sell so much of estate of sd son James as will comply with a contract of marriage between Col. James Ball and myself in behalf of our children." Sons: John & Richard, 1000 acres of land in Fauquier Co. left him by his grandfather, Maj. James Ball. Exors: Wife and 3 sons, James, John & Richard. Wits: Thos. Brent, Mils Ball, John Taylor. W.B. 20, p. 8. > > From: mike marshall <[email protected]> >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 7:36 AM >> Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Mary Conway and James Ball >> >> >> >> >> James Ball's 1754 will and Richard Ball's 1727 will both show a daughter Selden. >> >> Richard's daughter Sarah married John Selden and one of James Ball's daughters married an unknown Selden >> >> Which daughter was James referring to as "Selden"? >> >> >> James Ball's 1754 <snip>: >> >> Item I give to my Daughter Sinah and my four grand Sons viz. Jesse Ball son of my Daughter Frances, James Ewell and James Ewell son of Eve Ewell and John Selden and their heirs five thousand acres of land in Prince Wm County to be laid off at the upper end of my mountain tract to them and their heirs equally amongst them. >> Item I give to my daughter Selden and her heirs ye land I bought of Benjamin Taylor. >> Item I give to my five Daughters all my household goods except my plate. The best bed and furniture which I give to my Son James. >> >> Richard Ball's 1727 <snip>: >> >> Item I give to my daughter Sarah Selden my plantation where on I now live and my water mill & all the land that lays be low that road from colo. Willm Balls mill to Cundiffs to her and the heirs forever lawfully begotten and for want of such heirs then to my daughter Margaret Ball & the second heirs male of her and my Son in law Wm Ball Jun'rs body lawfully begotten forever and for want of such then to the heirs male of their two bodies lawfully begotten & to the second son of that heir male & his heirs male forever Lawfully begotten >> From: Janean Ray <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:31 PM >>> Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Mary Conway and James Ball >>> >>> I show 9 of the 10 including the two who died. So I'm missing one. >>> >>> Francis b. 12 Oct. 1709 >>> Sarah b. 13 Jan 1711 >>> Eve b. 24 Dec. > 1713 >>> Jesse b. 27 Jun 1716 d. 11 Aug. 1747 m. Mary Smith d/o J. Phillip Smith and >>> who also m. Col. John Lee and John Smith. Here lyeth interred the body of >>> Jesse Ball Gent. He was born 27th day of June 1716 and departed this life >>> the 11th day of Aug. 1747, in the 32nd year of his age >>> James b. 31 Dec. 1718 d. 24 Nov. 1789 m. Mildred UNK Here lieth the body >>> of Mildred Ball Wife of James Ball Jun'r, Gent. who departed this life the >>> 1st day of Dec'r 1751 in the 26th year of her age leaving one son and three >>> daughter, having faithfully discharged the several duties incumbent on a >>> wife and parent, a neighbour & a christian. >>> >>> In memory of (drawing of a willow tree in between two vertical tombstones) >>> >>> Col. James Ball 2nd son of James & Mary BAll, his 2nd wife daughter of Edwin >>> Conway. Born Dec. 31st, 1718. Died Nov'r 24th, 1789. >>> >>> Mary b. 6 Apr 1721 >>> Edwin b. > 1723 >>> Jeduthan b. 9 Jul 1725 d. 5 Mar. 1749 m. Elizabeth Fox UNK parents. Here >>> lies the Body of Mr. Jeduthan Ball son of Col. James Ball of Lancaster Co. >>> Born the 9th day of July, 1725, and died the 5th day of March, 1749, in the >>> 25th year of his age. >>> >>> Jeduthan Ball was the fourth son of Col. James Ball and Mary Conway, and was >>> brother to James and Jesse Ball, whose tombs are near his own. He marreid >>> Elizabeth Fox, and was father of Col. Burgess Ball, of the Revolution. >>> >>> Sinah b. 14 Feb 1727 >>> >>> Which child am I missing? I probably have them lingering out there in my >>> database awaiting a connection to a family. >>> >>> >>> >>> Janean >>> >>> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >