Thanks, but I am still totally confused. There are only two Thomas Balls in my entire Ball database, and the first of them is Dr. Thomas K. Ball, born in 1775. There are a total of 13 Thomas Balls in Peggy Hill's index to the Ball Outline, but those are all later generations than the one I just cited. There is no surname "BELL" in Mrs. Hill's books. I do not know of any marriage of a Thomas Ball to a Sarah Bell in Lancaster County. What time frame are we talking about? What is the source for this? What has this got to do with finding origins of the Balls in England in the 1600s? This is the first I've heard of it. There was indead a Henry BELL who died in Lancaster County in 1695. He names, among others, Katherine BELL daughter of Thomas and Sarah BELL (no relationship stated.) I don't understand the last two sentences--they do not make sense. Can you please clarify what you are talking about? Craig On Sep 12, 2011, at 8:46 PM, DAVID BROWN wrote: > Craig, below is the info that Jim posted last week. Unfortunately, I don't have any information on this Thomas Ball either, but Jim is right in that this requires more follow-up. > > Thanks. > > David > > > [email protected] wrote: > Jim, do you think the rest would be interested? This will take someone with a better library than i have aces to and some time. It is a Thomas Ball who mar. Sarah Bell-d/o Henry Bell-d. 1695 Lancaster Co.. Their dau. Katherine Ball mar. Abraham Bledsoe, his first wife.This comes from a lawsuit in July 1698 ( after the death of Henry Bell . The action of debt brought by Wm. Ballof Richard Ball executor of Capt. Wm. Ball, deceased and FFranciso FForizal--next for---Wm. Ball to produce his fathers books, the business depending at Catherine Ball & Thomas Ball. so on &so on. > In the info i have he is called the forgotten Ball. I have a list of sources one could look but like i said, don`t have the material. Jim > > > > ________________________________ > From: Craig Kilby <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 6:56 PM > Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] HAYDEN vs HILL Downing/Ball Connections > > Jim, > > I have never heard of a "Forgotten Thomas Ball" in relation to the Balls of Virginia. Eldest son Richard Ball was the subject of an article by that title some years ago. But Thomas is a new one for me. Can you provide some more detail here? Are we talking about BALL or BELL? > > Craig > > On Sep 12, 2011, at 7:15 PM, [email protected] wrote: > >> >> Craig and David, while your looking for Balls and the gentleman from NJ.. might want to take a look at a Thomas Ball, the forgotten Ball. I can not believe someone does not to research that. Maybe another son of Wm. Ball? Notes for Richard Ball: Wm. Ball of Richard Ball for Wm. Ball to produce his fathers books. Law suit arising out of another that Lancaster originated from the will of Henry Bell. This line of Bells brobably came fron Norfolk just above Suffolk. Edmund Bell was the MP and built the flag ship for the London Trading Co. in Suffolk. Let me talk to the man in NJ. Jim >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Craig, This much older and different Thomas Ball is new for me too and I don't really have much of anything on him other than what Jim previously shared.   However, I did locate a GenForum posting (see link below) which hopefully adds more clarity to the question: http://genforum.genealogy.com/ball/messages/6352.html It seems that additional examination of the original documents alluded in this GenForum message is necessary to determine if the name really is, in fact, Ball (instead of Bell). Thanks. David ________________________________ From: Craig Kilby <[email protected]> To: DAVID BROWN <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:31 PM Subject: Thomas Ball? Thanks, but I am still totally confused. There are only two Thomas Balls in my entire Ball database, and the first of them is Dr. Thomas K. Ball, born in 1775. There are a total of 13 Thomas Balls in Peggy Hill's index to the Ball Outline, but those are all later generations than the one I just cited. There is no surname "BELL" in Mrs. Hill's books. I do not know of any marriage of a Thomas Ball to a Sarah Bell in Lancaster County. What time frame are we talking about? What is the source for this? What has this got to do with finding origins of the Balls in England in the 1600s? This is the first I've heard of it. There was indead a Henry BELL who died in Lancaster County in 1695. He names, among others, Katherine BELL daughter of Thomas and Sarah BELL (no relationship stated.) I don't understand the last two sentences--they do not make sense. Can you please clarify what you are talking about? Craig On Sep 12, 2011, at 8:46 PM, DAVID BROWN wrote: > Craig, below is the info that Jim posted last week.  Unfortunately, I don't have any information on this Thomas Ball either, but Jim is right in that this requires more follow-up. > > Thanks. > > David > > > [email protected] wrote: > Jim, do you think the rest would be interested? This will take someone with a better library than i have aces to and some time. It is a Thomas Ball who mar. Sarah Bell-d/o Henry Bell-d. 1695 Lancaster Co.. Their dau. Katherine Ball mar. Abraham Bledsoe, his first wife.This comes from a lawsuit in July 1698 ( after the death of Henry Bell . The action of debt brought by Wm. Ballof Richard Ball executor of Capt. Wm. Ball, deceased  and FFranciso FForizal--next for---Wm. Ball to produce his fathers books, the business depending at Catherine Ball & Thomas Ball. so on &so on. > In the info i have he is called the forgotten Ball. I have a list of sources one could look but like i said, don`t have the material.  Jim > > > > ________________________________ > From: Craig Kilby <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 6:56 PM > Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] HAYDEN vs HILL Downing/Ball Connections > > Jim, > > I have never heard of a "Forgotten Thomas Ball" in relation to the Balls of Virginia. Eldest son Richard Ball was the subject of an article by that title some years ago. But Thomas is a new one for me. Can you provide some more detail here?  Are we talking about BALL or BELL? > > Craig > > On Sep 12, 2011, at 7:15 PM, [email protected] wrote: > >> >> Craig and David, while your looking for Balls and the gentleman from NJ.. might want to take a look at a Thomas Ball, the forgotten Ball. I can not believe someone does not to research that. Maybe another son of Wm. Ball? Notes for Richard Ball: Wm. Ball of Richard Ball for Wm. Ball to produce his fathers books. Law suit arising out of another that Lancaster originated from the will of Henry Bell. This line of Bells brobably came fron Norfolk just above Suffolk. Edmund Bell was the MP and built the flag ship for the London Trading Co. in Suffolk. Let me talk to the man in NJ.    Jim >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >