All the Johns and Elizabeths are confusing. Here's some more information to throw into the pot. I think the first John Tarpley (d. 1738 or '39) was married 3 times, the first and third to sisters. As far as I know, he had only one son, John (b 1695, d ca 1736). Newman Arnold Hall, "Allerton of Virginia", _The Virginia Genealogist_ 32(3):173; 32(4): 291-292, says: "John Tarpley, son of John and Elizabeth (Glascock) Tarpley . . . was born 16 July 1695, Richmond Co., Va. [n.: North Farnham Parish Register, Richmond Co., Va.]." Capt. John Tarpley married Anne Glasscock in 1712/13 (_Deed Abstracts of Richmond Co, VA, 1711-1714_, typescript in Virginia Archives, p. 54: "1712 January. John Tarpley & Ann Glascock."). If his son John was born 1695 he must be by a first wife, who could also have been a Glasscock. Or was the first wife Elizabeth Nutt, as John Ffarnefold's will 1702 names "daughter in law Elizabeth Tarpley", who was his stepdaughter Elizabeth Nutt? Probably not, as Elizabeth (Nutt) Newman is said to have married John Tarpley in 1699, after his son John was born. (G.H.S. King, _Marriages of Richmond County, VA, 1668-1853_ (Easley, SC: Southern Historical Press, 1986), p. 204: "TARPLEY, JOHN married circa 10 August 1699 per a prenuptial agreement, Elizabeth Newman, widow of Captain Alexander Newman (16??-1698) (q.v.), p. 146. DB#3, p. 32.") Richmond County Will Book 5 (1725-1753) p. 338, photocopy in possession of K. Much: "I John Tarpley of the County of Richmond & parish of North Farnham being Sick in body but of Perfect Sense & Memory do Consititute & declare this to be my last Will & Testament in Manner & form Following. Imprimis. I give & Committ My Soul to Almighty God... "Item. I leave my Wellbeloved wife Ann Tarpley the use of those following Negroes Viz. Long Tom, Iris Daughter Mall, Bassaw, Nell, Will, George, Hannibal, Cato, Charles, and Betty for & during her Natural Life in Lieu of her Dower of Negroes and the house wench Clark Nan during my said wife's Life, and after her decease it is my will & desire the said house wench do make Choise of my Grandson John Tarpley my Grandson Travers Tarpley & My Grandson James Tarpley which she shall think fitt for her Master. "Item. I give to my said Wife the Feather Bed & furniture she now lies on and her Choise of one other of My Beds & furniture (my own excepted) one third part of all my household Furniture, that is not heretofore by Me given away. "Item. I give my said Wife my Horse Whalebone and one of my young horses when Broke during her Natural Life. "Item. I give to My Grandson, James Tarpley the Two Negroes George & Betty before given to my Wife after my s^d Wife's decease. "Item. I give My little Negroe Eve, to my Grandson Travers Tarpley's eldest Daughter Betty. "Item. I give to my Grandson Tertius Quintus Tarpley My Negroes Anthony & Fank [sic]. "Item. I give to My Youngest Grandson John Tarpley the Negro Boy Charles, before Given to My Wife after my said Wife's decease and a Negro Girl Named Judy. "Item. I give to my Grandson Travers Tarpley my Mill Called & Known by the name of the New Mill standing on Constable's Run at the head of Farnham Creek Together with the Land and all other the Appurtenances thereto Belonging to him & heirs for Ever. "Item. It is my will & pleasure that all the Negroes Given to my wife and after her decease not Given to my other Grandsons be Equally divided between my Two Grandsons Trav^s & John Tarpley & heirs for Ever. "Item. It is my Will that my said Wife shou^d live in my dwelling house with my Grandson John Tarpley during her Widowhood or otherwise if she Sho'd think fitt it is my Will that she have my Plantation at the head of Moratico, which I bot of Mrs Lawson, During her Natural Life with all the Stocks of Cattle & hoggs Thereto belonging. "Item. I give My Grandson John Tarpley the Plantation whereon I Now Live with all the Appurtenances thereto belonging to him and the Male heir of his Body Lawfully begotten, and for want of Such to his Eldest Daughter & the heirs Male of her Body Lawfully to be begotten and for want of Such heir to My Grandson James Tarpley & the heirs Male of his Body Lawfully to be Begotten and for Want of Such heir to My Grandson John Tarpley Jr & the Male heirs of his Body lawfully to be Begotten & so on to the World's End. "Item. I give all the Rest & Residue of My Estate both Real & Personal to My Grandson John Tarpley & his heirs for Ever. "Item. It is My Will & Desire that all & Singular the Goods & Chattles Given to My Wife, and it is my True Intent & Meaning that the Same be in Lieu of her Dower. "Item. It is my Will & Pleasure that my Estate be not appraized but Inventoried by My Executors, and Divided by Col. Charles Grymes & Capt. Leroy Griffin. A. last of all, I do appoint & Constitute My Two Grandsons Travers & John Tarpley whole & Sole Executors, of this My last Will & Testament. In Testimony whereof have hereunto Sett My hand & Seal this 23 Day of November MDCCxxxviij [1738]. [signed] John Tarpley [seal] Testes: Tho:s Bluett, Eleanor Bluett, Rebecca [the mark of RC] Cosington "At a Court held for Richmond County the Seventh Day of May MDCCxxxix [1739] This Will was proved in Open Court by the oath of Thomas Bluet one of the Witnesses thereto, who also Deposed that he See the other Two Witnesses Subscribed the Same, which at the Motion of John Tarpley one of the Executors was Admitted to Record. Test. M. Beckwith ClCur. "At a Court held for Richmond County the first Day of October 1739. This will was proved in open Court by the oaths of Elianor Bluett and Rebecca Covington Two of the Witnesses thereto. Test M. Beckwith ClCur." John Tarpley Jr was married to 2 Elizabeths. First to Elizabeth Travers, by whom he had Travers (b. ca 1717) and twins John and Elizabeth (b. 28 May 1720, NFPR). Second to Elizabeth Ripping, by whom he had Edward Ripping (b 19 Apr 1727), Elizabeth (b 4 Mar 1728/9), James, John, and Tertius Quintus. Newman Hall says: " Since the distribution of the entire estate of John Tarpley does not mention his son John by his first wife, this implies that this older son John did not survive--very possibly, being a twin, he died at birth. This observation is in conflict with the statement by King that both sons, John, by both wives, survived. There is no specific evidence cited, however, to support this proposition nor any resolution of the incompatibility it would imply with the above stated references." Kathleen Much

I am pasting two portions of Kathleen's message: On Sep 5, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Kathleen Much wrote: > > Richmond County Will Book 5 (1725-1753) p. 338, > "Item. I give My Grandson John Tarpley the Plantation whereon I Now Live > with all the Appurtenances thereto belonging to him and the Male heir of his > Body Lawfully begotten, and for want of Such to his Eldest Daughter & the > heirs Male of her Body Lawfully to be begotten and for want of Such heir to > My Grandson James Tarpley & the heirs Male of his Body Lawfully to be > Begotten and for Want of Such heir to My Grandson John Tarpley Jr & the Male > heirs of his Body lawfully to be Begotten & so on to the World's End. > John Tarpley Jr was married to 2 Elizabeths. First to Elizabeth Travers, by > whom he had Travers (b. ca 1717) and twins John and Elizabeth (b. 28 May > 1720, NFPR). Second to Elizabeth Ripping, by whom he had Edward Ripping (b > 19 Apr 1727), Elizabeth (b 4 Mar 1728/9), James, John, and Tertius Quintus. This clause clearly shows there wereTWO grandsons both named John. The first (elder) John is given the land and then a line of succession to grandson John, Jr. The John I whose will this is only had one child, John II, the father of all the grandchildren named in this will. > Newman Hall says: " Since the distribution of the entire estate of John > Tarpley does not mention his son John by his first wife, this implies that > this older son John did not survive--very possibly, being a twin, he died at > birth. This observation is in conflict with the statement by King that both > sons, John, by both wives, survived. There is no specific evidence cited, > however, to support this proposition nor any resolution of the > incompatibility it would imply with the above stated references." Newman Hall is wrong about the division of the estate. Both Johns ARE mentioned in it. John the Elder was paid in cash instead of slaves, if I recall the record correctly. Scott has a copy of it. > > Kathleen Much > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes he m. Elizabeth Glascock, Elizabeth Nutt Newman and Ann Glascock. With Elizabeth Glascock he had James and John (that I show). Son John was born 16 Jul 1695 and d. bef. 7 Feb. 1736/7. Son John m. abt. 1715 to (1) Elizabeth Travers and (2)Elizabeth Ripping. He died before his father. John Tarpley #1 b. abt. 1661 d. aft. 23 Nov. 1738. John Tarpley #2 b. 16 July 1695 d. bef. 7 Feb. 1736/7. Supposedly now he had son John Tarpley #3 (ref'd to as John the Elder) by Elizabeth Travers b. 28 May 1720 and twin to sister Elizabeth and siblings to my Maj. Travers Tarpley. He then m. (2) Elizabeth Ripping and had son John Tarpley #4. I had to read this will over and over.... good catch.... on the JR.... I totally missed that. Janean -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kathleen Much Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 1:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Tarpleys All the Johns and Elizabeths are confusing. Here's some more information to throw into the pot. I think the first John Tarpley (d. 1738 or '39) was married 3 times, the first and third to sisters. As far as I know, he had only one son, John (b 1695, d ca 1736). Newman Arnold Hall, "Allerton of Virginia", _The Virginia Genealogist_ 32(3):173; 32(4): 291-292, says: "John Tarpley, son of John and Elizabeth (Glascock) Tarpley . . . was born 16 July 1695, Richmond Co., Va. [n.: North Farnham Parish Register, Richmond Co., Va.]." Capt. John Tarpley married Anne Glasscock in 1712/13 (_Deed Abstracts of Richmond Co, VA, 1711-1714_, typescript in Virginia Archives, p. 54: "1712 January. John Tarpley & Ann Glascock."). If his son John was born 1695 he must be by a first wife, who could also have been a Glasscock. Or was the first wife Elizabeth Nutt, as John Ffarnefold's will 1702 names "daughter in law Elizabeth Tarpley", who was his stepdaughter Elizabeth Nutt? Probably not, as Elizabeth (Nutt) Newman is said to have married John Tarpley in 1699, after his son John was born. (G.H.S. King, _Marriages of Richmond County, VA, 1668-1853_ (Easley, SC: Southern Historical Press, 1986), p. 204: "TARPLEY, JOHN married circa 10 August 1699 per a prenuptial agreement, Elizabeth Newman, widow of Captain Alexander Newman (16??-1698) (q.v.), p. 146. DB#3, p. 32.") Richmond County Will Book 5 (1725-1753) p. 338, photocopy in possession of K. Much: "I John Tarpley of the County of Richmond & parish of North Farnham being Sick in body but of Perfect Sense & Memory do Consititute & declare this to be my last Will & Testament in Manner & form Following. Imprimis. I give & Committ My Soul to Almighty God... "Item. I leave my Wellbeloved wife Ann Tarpley the use of those following Negroes Viz. Long Tom, Iris Daughter Mall, Bassaw, Nell, Will, George, Hannibal, Cato, Charles, and Betty for & during her Natural Life in Lieu of her Dower of Negroes and the house wench Clark Nan during my said wife's Life, and after her decease it is my will & desire the said house wench do make Choise of my Grandson John Tarpley my Grandson Travers Tarpley & My Grandson James Tarpley which she shall think fitt for her Master. "Item. I give to my said Wife the Feather Bed & furniture she now lies on and her Choise of one other of My Beds & furniture (my own excepted) one third part of all my household Furniture, that is not heretofore by Me given away. "Item. I give my said Wife my Horse Whalebone and one of my young horses when Broke during her Natural Life. "Item. I give to My Grandson, James Tarpley the Two Negroes George & Betty before given to my Wife after my s^d Wife's decease. "Item. I give My little Negroe Eve, to my Grandson Travers Tarpley's eldest Daughter Betty. "Item. I give to my Grandson Tertius Quintus Tarpley My Negroes Anthony & Fank [sic]. "Item. I give to My Youngest Grandson John Tarpley the Negro Boy Charles, before Given to My Wife after my said Wife's decease and a Negro Girl Named Judy. "Item. I give to my Grandson Travers Tarpley my Mill Called & Known by the name of the New Mill standing on Constable's Run at the head of Farnham Creek Together with the Land and all other the Appurtenances thereto Belonging to him & heirs for Ever. "Item. It is my will & pleasure that all the Negroes Given to my wife and after her decease not Given to my other Grandsons be Equally divided between my Two Grandsons Trav^s & John Tarpley & heirs for Ever. "Item. It is my Will that my said Wife shou^d live in my dwelling house with my Grandson John Tarpley during her Widowhood or otherwise if she Sho'd think fitt it is my Will that she have my Plantation at the head of Moratico, which I bot of Mrs Lawson, During her Natural Life with all the Stocks of Cattle & hoggs Thereto belonging. "Item. I give My Grandson John Tarpley the Plantation whereon I Now Live with all the Appurtenances thereto belonging to him and the Male heir of his Body Lawfully begotten, and for want of Such to his Eldest Daughter & the heirs Male of her Body Lawfully to be begotten and for want of Such heir to My Grandson James Tarpley & the heirs Male of his Body Lawfully to be Begotten and for Want of Such heir to My Grandson John Tarpley Jr & the Male heirs of his Body lawfully to be Begotten & so on to the World's End. "Item. I give all the Rest & Residue of My Estate both Real & Personal to My Grandson John Tarpley & his heirs for Ever. "Item. It is My Will & Desire that all & Singular the Goods & Chattles Given to My Wife, and it is my True Intent & Meaning that the Same be in Lieu of her Dower. "Item. It is my Will & Pleasure that my Estate be not appraized but Inventoried by My Executors, and Divided by Col. Charles Grymes & Capt. Leroy Griffin. A. last of all, I do appoint & Constitute My Two Grandsons Travers & John Tarpley whole & Sole Executors, of this My last Will & Testament. In Testimony whereof have hereunto Sett My hand & Seal this 23 Day of November MDCCxxxviij [1738]. [signed] John Tarpley [seal] Testes: Tho:s Bluett, Eleanor Bluett, Rebecca [the mark of RC] Cosington "At a Court held for Richmond County the Seventh Day of May MDCCxxxix [1739] This Will was proved in Open Court by the oath of Thomas Bluet one of the Witnesses thereto, who also Deposed that he See the other Two Witnesses Subscribed the Same, which at the Motion of John Tarpley one of the Executors was Admitted to Record. Test. M. Beckwith ClCur. "At a Court held for Richmond County the first Day of October 1739. This will was proved in open Court by the oaths of Elianor Bluett and Rebecca Covington Two of the Witnesses thereto. Test M. Beckwith ClCur." John Tarpley Jr was married to 2 Elizabeths. First to Elizabeth Travers, by whom he had Travers (b. ca 1717) and twins John and Elizabeth (b. 28 May 1720, NFPR). Second to Elizabeth Ripping, by whom he had Edward Ripping (b 19 Apr 1727), Elizabeth (b 4 Mar 1728/9), James, John, and Tertius Quintus. Newman Hall says: " Since the distribution of the entire estate of John Tarpley does not mention his son John by his first wife, this implies that this older son John did not survive--very possibly, being a twin, he died at birth. This observation is in conflict with the statement by King that both sons, John, by both wives, survived. There is no specific evidence cited, however, to support this proposition nor any resolution of the incompatibility it would imply with the above stated references." Kathleen Much ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Janean, some notes below: On Sep 5, 2011, at 2:48 PM, Janean Ray wrote: > Yes he m. Elizabeth Glascock, Elizabeth Nutt Newman and Ann Glascock. With > Elizabeth Glascock he had James and John (that I show). Son John was born > 16 Jul 1695 and d. bef. 7 Feb. 1736/7. Son John m. abt. 1715 to (1) > Elizabeth Travers and (2)Elizabeth Ripping. The three wives agree with my information. However, there was no son James Tarpley by any of the wives, just one child, son John II. He did have a brother named James, and both were the sons of James Tarpley (d. 1713). > > He died before his father. John Tarpley #1 b. abt. 1661 d. aft. 23 Nov. > 1738. John Tarpley #2 b. 16 July 1695 d. bef. 7 Feb. 1736/7. No, John Tarpley #2 (or the Elder), did NOT die before 7 Feb 1736/7. He was very much alive and stayed that way until 1787, as Scott will show. John #3 (or Jr.) died unmarried with no children in Williamsburg in 1763. Craig