Charlene, this reminds me of a discussion we had on the Culpeper County list a few years ago. I don't think we ever really resolved all of the daughters of Samuel Ball. It is pertinent here because of the Samuel Ball in question, who is: Samuel-3 Ball (1686-1751), son of William-2 Ball (William-1) and Col. John Tayloe, all of whom are significant NN names. I wouldn't mind revisiting this issue here. We have many patrons at the MBW who think they descend from Samuel's son William-4 Ball, which is not possible since he had no children. This piece of fiction got started with the lawsuit of millionaire Joseph Ball of Philadelphia's intestate death, sending every attorney known to man scurrying around the United States lookup anyone named "BALL" and telling them that (1) they were entitled to millions of dollars and (2) they were related to George Washington. I have not seen so much of this lately from patrons, but still, the TRUE family of Samuel-3 has some question marks. There is no doubt about Judith (Ball) Hackley, however. So there, you are on firm ice. Craig On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:39 PM, TEbel2888@aol.com wrote: > am a HACKLEY descendant. I have Elizabeth WARREN m Mathew BROOKS > > Elizabeth SHIPPEY, below, is my ancestor and also my many-grt aunt -- > granddaughter of George MOTT. > > I am descended from Elizabeth SHIPPEY's son John HACKLEY who m Judith BALL, > dau of Capt. Samuel BALL of Culpeper.