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    1. Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] William Ball (died Nov. 1680) & Hannah Atherold
    2. DAVID BROWN
    3. Where is this mentioned in the Walne article?  From: Craig Kilby <persisto@live.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] William Ball (died Nov. 1680) & Hannah Atherold If you will read the rest of the Walne article, he opens a wide door as to William Ball being the son of Richard Ball of Lincolnshire.

    10/31/2012 09:41:35
    1. Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] William Ball (died Nov. 1680) & Hannah Atherold
    2. Craig Kilby
    3. David, the Peter Walne article was published in the Virginia Magazine of History & Biography in Vol. 67 No. 4 (October 1959), pages 399-405. The title is "The English Ancestry of Colonel William Ball of Millenbeck." The title is a misnomer, because it does not determine any ancestry for William-1 Ball, it simply disproves the Barkam Manor stuff. It is recommended reading. In fact, I am going to recommend that the Mary Ball Washington Museum & Library gets permission from the Virginia Historical Society to reprint it on on our website so that this business about William-1 Ball being born at Barkam can can have a permanent bullet to its head to be fired when needed. As to the possible Lincolnshire origins from Rev. Richard Ball...it is just a possibility and it has never, to my knowledge, been tested. Walne opens that door in his article, which I encourage you to read. The article does NOT come out and say this, nor does it provide any evidence--or even claim to having done any research--on this. It also explores SOME London records. Nothing is claimed to be conclusive except that William-1 Ball of Lancaster County WAS NOT born at Barkham Manor. Craig On Oct 31, 2012, at 6:41 PM, DAVID BROWN wrote: > Where is this mentioned in the Walne article? > > From: Craig Kilby <persisto@live.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 4:50 PM > Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] William Ball (died Nov. 1680) & Hannah Atherold > > > If you will read the rest of the Walne article, he opens a wide door as to William Ball being the son of Richard Ball of Lincolnshire. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/31/2012 05:34:52
    1. Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] William Ball (died Nov. 1680) & Hannah Atherold
    2. DAVID BROWN
    3. I've read the Walne article and there's nothing mentioned about Lincolnshire.   ________________________________ From: Craig Kilby <persisto1@gmail.com> To: DAVID BROWN <dbrown544@prodigy.net>; va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] William Ball (died Nov. 1680) & Hannah Atherold As to the possible Lincolnshire origins from Rev. Richard Ball...

    10/31/2012 02:53:05
    1. Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] William Ball (died Nov. 1680) & Hannah Atherold
    2. Jim Bartlett
    3. Craig Perhaps a short summary posted in the NN Tree with a hyperlink to the full article... Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:34 PM, Craig Kilby <persisto1@gmail.com> wrote: > David, the Peter Walne article was published in the Virginia Magazine of History & Biography in Vol. 67 No. 4 (October 1959), pages 399-405. The title is "The English Ancestry of Colonel William Ball of Millenbeck." The title is a misnomer, because it does not determine any ancestry for William-1 Ball, it simply disproves the Barkam Manor stuff. > > It is recommended reading. In fact, I am going to recommend that the Mary Ball Washington Museum & Library gets permission from the Virginia Historical Society to reprint it on on our website so that this business about William-1 Ball being born at Barkam can can have a permanent bullet to its head to be fired when needed. > > As to the possible Lincolnshire origins from Rev. Richard Ball...it is just a possibility and it has never, to my knowledge, been tested. Walne opens that door in his article, which I encourage you to read. The article does NOT come out and say this, nor does it provide any evidence--or even claim to having done any research--on this. It also explores SOME London records. Nothing is claimed to be conclusive except that William-1 Ball of Lancaster County WAS NOT born at Barkham Manor. > > Craig

    11/01/2012 02:17:35
    1. Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] William Ball (died Nov. 1680) & Hannah Atherold
    2. James Burnett
    3. On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Craig Kilby <persisto1@gmail.com> wrote: > Peter Walne article was published in the Virginia Magazine of History & > Biography in Vol. 67 No. 4 (October 1959) That is a long time in light of all the new records coming to the forefront. Has anyone validated this in recent time with all the new records and information available? Given the source I am sure they believed it correct in 1959 but we all have seen corrections based on newly available information -- Douglas Burnett Satellite Beach FL As a member of the Association of Professional Genealogists (APG), the National Genealogical Society (NGS), the Florida State Genealogical Society(FSGS) and the Virginia Genealogical Society(VGS), I support and adhere to the APG's Code of Ethics.

    11/01/2012 09:01:40
    1. [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Rehashing Old News...
    2. Craig Kilby
    3. Doug, John, whatever your name is.......... HERE WE GO AGAIN. Peter Walne was the curator at Barkham Manor when he wrote the article. Why, oh why, are we re-hashing this? if you can prove where William Ball was born, and when, and who his wife was, we all be thrilled. What we are not thrilled about is having to rehash old news. Craig Kilby\ P.S. My inbox has been stuffed for two days now. I am getting quite agitated at how many times we have to fix things. Judging from my in box, I am not alone. On the other hand, a lot of people are still really out of the loop. Some day, I hope we can get everyone on the same page. Not looking good, though. On Nov 1, 2012, at 3:01 PM, James Burnett wrote: > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Craig Kilby <persisto1@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Peter Walne article was published in the Virginia Magazine of History & >> Biography in Vol. 67 No. 4 (October 1959) > > > That is a long time in light of all the new records coming to the > forefront. Has anyone validated this in recent time with all the new > records and information available? Given the source I am sure they believed > it correct in 1959 but we all have seen corrections based on newly > available information > > > > -- > Douglas Burnett > Satellite Beach > FL > As a member of the Association of Professional Genealogists (APG), the > National Genealogical Society (NGS), the Florida State Genealogical > Society(FSGS) and the Virginia Genealogical Society(VGS), I support and > adhere to the APG's Code of Ethics. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/01/2012 10:47:35
    1. Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] Rehashing Old News...
    2. James Burnett
    3. A true southern gentleman! On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Craig Kilby <craig@craigkilby.com> wrote: > Doug, John, whatever your name is.......... > > -- Douglas Burnett Satellite Beach FL As a member of the Association of Professional Genealogists (APG), the National Genealogical Society (NGS), the Florida State Genealogical Society(FSGS) and the Virginia Genealogical Society(VGS), I support and adhere to the APG's Code of Ethics.

    11/01/2012 10:58:22