OK....I get all this part. This is just another building block we have. The FTDN web site itself isn't really going to tell us anything. But it will tell YOU something. I still don't know what you meant by 2,000 matches from just five participants, none of which are atDNA???? (Or two of them?) You'll have to patient with us. Obviously, only those who take the test will get the benefits of it, but this list can hopefully be a great forum to talk about who the Mystery Common Ancestors might be. Right? Craig On Oct 19, 2012, at 9:28 PM, Jim Bartlett wrote: > Craig > > The Family Finder DNA test is based on a segment (hunk, block, string) of DNA that is exactly the same in two people - we call it a shared segment. This shared segment started with a Common Ancestor (a man or woman) who passed a larger segment to each of two children; each child passed some of that DNA down to one of their children, etc until two living descendants, cousins, got tested and found they had the exact same smaller segment. > > So the test result is always between two people. Each person who tests gets a list of people with whom they share such a matching DNA segment. It's up to the two people to each have a robust Tree (we have a collective one that may be better than most individuals have); communicate with each other (our participants know each other from this list); share info and find the Common Ancestor or extend the Tree of one or both back to a Common Ancestor (both our Tree and our list will help with this). > > The FTDNA system was set up based on 2 people working together to find a Common Ancestor - we are breaking new ground here. Each of the 2 people in a match will have many advantages with NN Ancestors, as outlined above, which others don't have. > > There is great benefit to knowing which DNA segments are involved in each match - this is where I come in. > > There is also great benefit in knowing who of your matches have NN ancestors - we can help here too. Given our list of participants, they will be able to easily look for them among their other matches. > > So the task of finding the Common Ancestors is up to the two people, and they can ask this list for help. > > Reporting the findings will be something I will have to work out. At the least I can post the Common Ancestors through a word page on the webpage. This will show ancestral lines that are proved by matching DNA. > > I'm also open ideas. > > Note: only 5 of 10 have responded so far on listing their names - we're doing good. > > Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! > > On Oct 19, 2012, at 8:01 PM, Craig Kilby <persisto1@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Jim, >> >> If the point was to be doing autosomal tests, what is the point if nobody can see it? I really do NOT understand. >> >> When you say 5 out of 10, does that mean five said NO or just that you haven't heard back from them. As you know, I asked the administrator of the Kilby Y-DNA project to link it. I haven't' heard back from him yet, but no doubt will (except I just remembered he put something on his fb page about a week ago looking forward to some camping trip out West.....) >> >> Please forgive me for my ignorance on how all this is supposed to work. >> >> Craig >> >> On Oct 19, 2012, at 7:34 PM, Jim Bartlett wrote: >> >>> Craig >>> >>> FTDNA sets the tabs. They don't have a way to show Family Finder, yet. We don't really know what to show. >>> >>> I'll try to come up with something. At the least we should list who's in the project, but I need to get an OK from each one first. I've got 5 out of 10 so far. >>> >>> Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! >>> >>> On Oct 19, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Craig Kilby <persisto1@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Jim, >>>> >>>> Will there be a tab of autosomal tests, or is that somehow included in the ones that have numbers stretching into infinity on the site? >>>> >>>> Craig >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Craig Let's look on the positive side: The NN DNA website will show Y-DNA and mtDNA results. I will also post the NN matches and Common Ancestors on that website. I added up the number of matches that everyone in our project have already gotten in Family Finder tests already on the books. It was from 7 of the 9 participants who had signed up by this morning. It shows we should have a number of NN Common Ancestors in there somewhere - this is good news. On the contrary, Craig - the NN Common Ancestors will benefit the people who take this test; all the members of his/her family; all the descendants of those Ancestors, including many of us; and every one interested in NN families who will benefit by the determination of each Common Ancestor - each one of these will be good news to this list. Time will tell, but I think this list will play a key role in this. Let's give it a chance. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Oct 19, 2012, at 10:00 PM, Craig Kilby <persisto1@gmail.com> wrote: > OK....I get all this part. This is just another building block we have. The FTDN web site itself isn't really going to tell us anything. But it will tell YOU something. > > I still don't know what you meant by 2,000 matches from just five participants, none of which are atDNA???? (Or two of them?) > > You'll have to patient with us. Obviously, only those who take the test will get the benefits of it, but this list can hopefully be a great forum to talk about who the Mystery Common Ancestors might be. Right? > > Craig