David, You are absolutely right that I was wrong. The Walne article does indeed say Northamptonshire, not Lincolnshire. It is all very iffy. The "Coats of Arms" is a lingering mystery. Craig On Oct 31, 2012, at 10:48 PM, DAVID BROWN wrote: > Thanks Donna. I have the article and was trying to figure out why Craig alluded to Richard Ball of Lincolnshire. It looks like Craig made a mistake and meant to say Northamptonshire instead of Lincolnshire. Anyway, I find it humorous that Walne SPECULATES of a Northamptonshire connection based on an ALLEGED parchment (with Coat of Arms) which William Ball, died Nov. 1680, SUPPOSEDLY brought with him to the colonies. > > > From: Donna Price <dpsqrd@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] William Ball (died Nov. 1680) & Hannah Atherold > > David, > I found the article online. > Walne proposes that a more likely ancestor would be Dr. Richard Ball, of Northamptonshire. I include the entire article here with his footnotes. > http://www.afamilytree.net/milesforsite/dispute.html > From: Craig Kilby <persisto@live.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 4:50 PM >> Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] William Ball (died Nov. 1680) & Hannah Atherold >> >> If you will read the rest of the Walne article, he opens a wide door as to William Ball being the son of Richard Ball of Lincolnshire. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for the clarification.   ________________________________ From: Craig Kilby <persisto1@gmail.com> To: DAVID BROWN <dbrown544@prodigy.net>; va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] William Ball (died Nov. 1680) & Hannah Atherold David, You are absolutely right that I was wrong. The Walne article does indeed say Northamptonshire, not Lincolnshire. It is all very iffy. The "Coats of Arms" is a lingering mystery. Craig

Craig Were Coats of Arms common in the Colonies? As I understand them, most Colonists were no more entitled to them than we are. I would think such a parchment would be a dead giveaway. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:56 PM, Craig Kilby <persisto1@gmail.com> wrote: > David, > > You are absolutely right that I was wrong. The Walne article does indeed say Northamptonshire, not Lincolnshire. It is all very iffy. The "Coats of Arms" is a lingering mystery. > > Craig > > On Oct 31, 2012, at 10:48 PM, DAVID BROWN wrote: > >> Thanks Donna. I have the article and was trying to figure out why Craig alluded to Richard Ball of Lincolnshire. It looks like Craig made a mistake and meant to say Northamptonshire instead of Lincolnshire. Anyway, I find it humorous that Walne SPECULATES of a Northamptonshire connection based on an ALLEGED parchment (with Coat of Arms) which William Ball, died Nov. 1680, SUPPOSEDLY brought with him to the colonies. >> >> >> From: Donna Price <dpsqrd@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] William Ball (died Nov. 1680) & Hannah Atherold >> >> David, >> I found the article online. >> Walne proposes that a more likely ancestor would be Dr. Richard Ball, of Northamptonshire. I include the entire article here with his footnotes. >> http://www.afamilytree.net/milesforsite/dispute.html >> From: Craig Kilby <persisto@live.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 4:50 PM >>> Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] William Ball (died Nov. 1680) & Hannah Atherold >>> >>> If you will read the rest of the Walne article, he opens a wide door as to William Ball being the son of Richard Ball of Lincolnshire. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jim, Indeed. I think these "coats of arms" were part of the Joseph Ball estate scam in the late 1870s. Horace Heyden apparently fell for it. I have yet to see ANY of these reported coats of arms, either in Virginia or in New England. Craig On Nov 1, 2012, at 8:21 AM, Jim Bartlett wrote: > Craig > > Were Coats of Arms common in the Colonies? As I understand them, most Colonists were no more entitled to them than we are. I would think such a parchment would be a dead giveaway. > > Jim -