Janean I've worked hard to develop explanations for all this stuff that don't require any biology. If I get too deep in the jargon please call me on it, and I'll try a kinder/gentler explanation. We don't need any degree to apply the DNA tools. Some elbow grease and midnight oil perhaps, but no biology. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Oct 21, 2012, at 10:28 PM, "Janean Ray" <jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: > This all sounds like it takes a PhD to understand the lingo. Been glancing > over the emails as they come in and for a the lay person, wow! A lot to > digest. But I'll keep watching > > Janean

Jim Thank you very much for that effort. I also appreciate that we are working in genealogy time-4-6 gens--and thousands of years ago. On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Jim Bartlett <jim4bartletts@verizon.net>wrote: > hard to develop explanations for all this stuff that don't require any > biology. -- Douglas Burnett Satellite Beach FL As a member of the Association of Professional Genealogists (APG), the National Genealogical Society (NGS), the Florida State Genealogical Society(FSGS) and the Virginia Genealogical Society(VGS), I support and adhere to the APG's Code of Ethics.

sorry--and NOT thousands of years ago On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 9:31 AM, James Burnett <dougb81042@gmail.com> wrote: > Jim > Thank you very much for that effort. I also appreciate that we are working > in genealogy time-4-6 gens--and thousands of years ago. > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Jim Bartlett <jim4bartletts@verizon.net>wrote: > >> hard to develop explanations for all this stuff that don't require any >> biology. > > > > > -- > Douglas Burnett > Satellite Beach > FL > As a member of the Association of Professional Genealogists (APG), the > National Genealogical Society (NGS), the Florida State Genealogical > Society(FSGS) and the Virginia Genealogical Society(VGS), I support and > adhere to the APG's Code of Ethics. > > > -- Douglas Burnett Satellite Beach FL As a member of the Association of Professional Genealogists (APG), the National Genealogical Society (NGS), the Florida State Genealogical Society(FSGS) and the Virginia Genealogical Society(VGS), I support and adhere to the APG's Code of Ethics.

Thanks Jim I'll trying to get a grip on it. I think I've learned so far that Y is male and mt is female? LOL I'm Adult A.D.D. so these rapid fire emails of everyone spewing DNA jargon is a little overwhelming. I've never looked into it because I have too many females that carried down from my Rawleigh Chinn line and can't begin to count the women I descend from in all the other lines. Interestingly, I have one brother but he would have to test for the last name of Crosnoe through my father's father, because my father's "mother" (Skiles) didn't marry him and retained her maiden name. And Crosnoe I think came from Germany. The only closest thing I could get to Y-DNA in the NN area would be my brother through my mother who then goes from her father BACK BACK BACK with male Meadows. There is only one female break there. But I don't know how all this works anyway. Besides these tests from what I've heard are quite expensive. Janean -----Original Message----- From: va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Bartlett Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 12:26 AM To: va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] NN DNA status Janean I've worked hard to develop explanations for all this stuff that don't require any biology. If I get too deep in the jargon please call me on it, and I'll try a kinder/gentler explanation. We don't need any degree to apply the DNA tools. Some elbow grease and midnight oil perhaps, but no biology. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Oct 21, 2012, at 10:28 PM, "Janean Ray" <jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: > This all sounds like it takes a PhD to understand the lingo. Been > glancing over the emails as they come in and for a the lay person, > wow! A lot to digest. But I'll keep watching > > Janean ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Janean You've got the Y and mt right. But they go in unbroken male (Y) or female (mt) lines of ancestry, no exceptions. Both men and woman get equal treatment with the Family Finder test. The home page www.familytreedna.com shows prices. It's not cheap, but what you get is valuable accurate info, and additional results are added monthly, for free, for life. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Oct 22, 2012, at 2:02 PM, "Janean Ray" <jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: > Thanks Jim > > I'll trying to get a grip on it. I think I've learned so far that Y is male > and mt is female? LOL I'm Adult A.D.D. so these rapid fire emails of > everyone spewing DNA jargon is a little overwhelming. > > I've never looked into it because I have too many females that carried down > from my Rawleigh Chinn line and can't begin to count the women I descend > from in all the other lines. > > Interestingly, I have one brother but he would have to test for the last > name of Crosnoe through my father's father, because my father's "mother" > (Skiles) didn't marry him and retained her maiden name. And Crosnoe I > think came from Germany. > > The only closest thing I could get to Y-DNA in the NN area would be my > brother through my mother who then goes from her father BACK BACK BACK with > male Meadows. There is only one female break there. But I don't know how > all this works anyway. Besides these tests from what I've heard are quite > expensive. > > > Janean > > -----Original Message----- > From: va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Bartlett > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 12:26 AM > To: va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] NN DNA status > > Janean > > I've worked hard to develop explanations for all this stuff that don't > require any biology. If I get too deep in the jargon please call me on it, > and I'll try a kinder/gentler explanation. We don't need any degree to apply > the DNA tools. Some elbow grease and midnight oil perhaps, but no biology. > > Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! > > On Oct 21, 2012, at 10:28 PM, "Janean Ray" <jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: > >> This all sounds like it takes a PhD to understand the lingo. Been >> glancing over the emails as they come in and for a the lay person, >> wow! A lot to digest. But I'll keep watching >> >> Janean > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

So even with the female lines, those can't be broken either? Janean Ray -----Original Message----- From: va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Bartlett Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 4:05 PM To: va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] NN DNA status Janean You've got the Y and mt right. But they go in unbroken male (Y) or female (mt) lines of ancestry, no exceptions. Both men and woman get equal treatment with the Family Finder test. The home page www.familytreedna.com shows prices. It's not cheap, but what you get is valuable accurate info, and additional results are added monthly, for free, for life. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Oct 22, 2012, at 2:02 PM, "Janean Ray" <jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: > Thanks Jim > > I'll trying to get a grip on it. I think I've learned so far that Y > is male and mt is female? LOL I'm Adult A.D.D. so these rapid fire > emails of everyone spewing DNA jargon is a little overwhelming. > > I've never looked into it because I have too many females that carried > down from my Rawleigh Chinn line and can't begin to count the women I > descend from in all the other lines. > > Interestingly, I have one brother but he would have to test for the > last name of Crosnoe through my father's father, because my father's "mother" > (Skiles) didn't marry him and retained her maiden name. And Crosnoe > I think came from Germany. > > The only closest thing I could get to Y-DNA in the NN area would be my > brother through my mother who then goes from her father BACK BACK BACK > with male Meadows. There is only one female break there. But I don't > know how all this works anyway. Besides these tests from what I've > heard are quite expensive. > > > Janean > > -----Original Message----- > From: va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim > Bartlett > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 12:26 AM > To: va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] NN DNA status > > Janean > > I've worked hard to develop explanations for all this stuff that don't > require any biology. If I get too deep in the jargon please call me on > it, and I'll try a kinder/gentler explanation. We don't need any > degree to apply the DNA tools. Some elbow grease and midnight oil perhaps, but no biology. > > Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! > > On Oct 21, 2012, at 10:28 PM, "Janean Ray" <jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: > >> This all sounds like it takes a PhD to understand the lingo. Been >> glancing over the emails as they come in and for a the lay person, >> wow! A lot to digest. But I'll keep watching >> >> Janean > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Janean. Right. Unbroken all-male (father to son) and all-female (mother to daughter). No exceptions, though men do have their mother's mtDNA as well. Obviously, women have no Y chromsome, or else they'd be men. The autosomal DNA (atDNA) is a much, much, much larger pool of ALL your DNA and what Jim is doing is finding matching SEGMENTS to others from an UNKNOWN common ancestor. Craig On Oct 22, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Janean Ray wrote: > So even with the female lines, those can't be broken either? > > > > > Janean Ray > > -----Original Message----- > From: va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Bartlett > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 4:05 PM > To: va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] NN DNA status > > Janean > > You've got the Y and mt right. But they go in unbroken male (Y) or female > (mt) lines of ancestry, no exceptions. Both men and woman get equal > treatment with the Family Finder test. The home page www.familytreedna.com > shows prices. It's not cheap, but what you get is valuable accurate info, > and additional results are added monthly, for free, for life. > > Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! > > On Oct 22, 2012, at 2:02 PM, "Janean Ray" <jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: > >> Thanks Jim >> >> I'll trying to get a grip on it. I think I've learned so far that Y >> is male and mt is female? LOL I'm Adult A.D.D. so these rapid fire >> emails of everyone spewing DNA jargon is a little overwhelming. >> >> I've never looked into it because I have too many females that carried >> down from my Rawleigh Chinn line and can't begin to count the women I >> descend from in all the other lines. >> >> Interestingly, I have one brother but he would have to test for the >> last name of Crosnoe through my father's father, because my father's > "mother" >> (Skiles) didn't marry him and retained her maiden name. And Crosnoe >> I think came from Germany. >> >> The only closest thing I could get to Y-DNA in the NN area would be my >> brother through my mother who then goes from her father BACK BACK BACK >> with male Meadows. There is only one female break there. But I don't >> know how all this works anyway. Besides these tests from what I've >> heard are quite expensive. >> >> >> Janean >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:va-northern-neck-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim >> Bartlett >> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 12:26 AM >> To: va-northern-neck@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [VA-NORTHERN-NECK] NN DNA status >> >> Janean >> >> I've worked hard to develop explanations for all this stuff that don't >> require any biology. If I get too deep in the jargon please call me on >> it, and I'll try a kinder/gentler explanation. We don't need any >> degree to apply the DNA tools. Some elbow grease and midnight oil perhaps, > but no biology. >> >> Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! >> >> On Oct 21, 2012, at 10:28 PM, "Janean Ray" <jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: >> >>> This all sounds like it takes a PhD to understand the lingo. Been >>> glancing over the emails as they come in and for a the lay person, >>> wow! A lot to digest. But I'll keep watching >>> >>> Janean >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message