Here's the latest list. I'm still hoping for some input from John, Robert, Pam, Susannah, Bruce, Jan and Gene. And I'm ready to start the list of Common Ancestors (between one of our participants and an atDNA Match). AVERY, Yeo 1676-1752 Amelia (m in Richmond): Craig Kilby BAILEY, Joseph c1620-c1674 Lancaster: Donna Price BALL, Benjamin 1719 Middlesex-1807 Fauquier: Jude Degen BALL, Edward c1670?-1726 Middlesex: Jude Degen BALL, William 1641-1694 Lancaster: David Brown BERRY, Thomas c1683-1743 Northumberland: David Brown BLACKWELL: Mary West Rumora BONUM, Rebecca d c715 Westmoreland: Barbara Shroyer BRENT, Hugh d 1671 Lancaster: Barbara Shroyer BRIGGS, Ralph c1640-c1689 Lancaster: Donna Price BUSH, Abraham d 1686/1687 Lancaster: David Brown BYSSHE (BISH), Ursula d c1661 Northumberland: David Brown CAMMOCK, Mary 1700s Richmond: James V Bartlett Jr CARROLL, Daniel 1600s Westmoreland: James V Bartlett Jr CHILTON, Jesse 1700s Lancaster: Barbara Shroyer COCKRILL, John d 1707 Northumberland: David Brown CONWAY, Col. Edwin c1610-1660/61 Lancaster: Ann Avery Hunter CREEL, Thomas 1685-1727 Richmond: Jude Degen CREEL, William 1712-1757 Richmond, Prince William: Jude Degen CREELE, John c1656 England-c 1720 Northumberland: Jude Degen DAMERON, Lawrence c1615-1660 Northumberland: David Brown DICKERSON, Thomas c1690s-1734 Essex: James V Bartlett Jr DODSON, Charles Joseph c 1649 Lancaster-1705 Richmond: Jude Degen DODSON, Jesse c 1623-1655 Jamestown, Old Rappahannock (later Richmond) : Jude Degen DODSON, Thomas 1681-1740 Richmond: Jude Degen DOWNING, Capt William 1700s Northumberland: James V Bartlett Jr; Mary West Rumora DURHAM, Thomas 1661-1716 Richmond: Jude Degen ESKRIDGE, George d 1735 Westmoreland: Barbara Shroyer FRANK, Robert Sr d 1725 Westmoreland: David Brown; Craig Kilby GARLINGTON, Christopher d Aft 1658 Northumberland: David Brown GILSON, Behethland 1600s Westmoreland: Barbara Shroyer GRAVES, Thomas 1580-1635 Northumberland: James V Bartlett Jr GRAY, Francis d 1667 Westmoreland: Craig Kilby HAINES, Elinore 1700s Lancaster: Barbara Shroyer HARBIN, George d c1696 Richmond: Craig Kilby HARRIS, John d c1707 Northumberland: David Brown HATHAWAY, William 1600s Lancaster: James V Bartlett Jr HAWKINS, John 1680-1740 Essex, Richmond: James V Bartlett Jr HAYNIE, John c1624 - 1697 Northumberland: David Brown HILL, Charles c1620-c1659: Donna Price HUDSON, Joshua d 1704 Westmoreland: Craig Kilby INGRAM, Thomas d 1707 Northumberland: David Brown JENKINS, Ann d aft 1700 Middlesex, Richmond: Craig Kilby JOHNSON, William d c1745 Middlesex: Donna Price JONES: Mary West Rumora KILBY, Christopher d c1681 Middlesex: Craig Kilby KING, Arthur 1600s Westmoreland: Donald E King LAWSON, Roland 1600s Lancaster: James V Bartlett Jr MARSHALL, Thomas d 1704 Westmoreland: Ann Avery Hunter MARSHALL, Sarah d 1726 Westmoreland: David Brown McNEALE(E), John 1744-1787 Middlesex, Fauquier: Jude Degen MITCHELL, William c1670-c1792 Lancaster: Donna Price MOREHEAD, Alexander d 1744 Northumberland: David Brown MORRIS, Nicholas d 1664 Northumberland: David Brown; Mary West Rumora NEWSUM, Robert 1700s Lancaster: Barbara Shroyer NEWTON, Thomas 1678 -1727 Westmoreland: Barbara Shroyer OWEN, Augustine c1680-c1725 Middlesex: Jude Degen PACE, John d 1717 Middlesex: Donna Price PAYNE, John d 1689/90 Lancaster: Ann Avery Hunter PINCKARD: Mary West Rumora PRESLEY, William d c1656 Northumberland: David Brown PROCTOR, George d c1735 Richmond, King George: David Brown ROSSER, David d 1698 Richmond: Craig Kilby RUSH, William d 1691 Westmoreland: Craig Kilby SANFORD, John Sr 1600s Westmoreland: James V Bartlett Jr SHARP, Elias d 1745 King George: David Brown SHERWOOD, Phillip d 1685 Old Rappahannock: Craig Kilby SMITH, John d 1669 Middlesex: Ann Avery Hunter SMITH, Robert d 1661 Westmoreland: Donald E King SMOOT, William c1652-1716 Essex or Richmond: Jude Degen SPENCE, David d 1726 Northumberland: James V Bartlett Jr STEPTOE: Mary West Rumora STONE: Mary West Rumora STORKE, Nehemiah 1600s Westmoreland: Barbara Shroyer THACKER, Henry d c1681 Middlesex: Ann Avery Hunter THOMPSON, Richard d c1649 Northumberland: David Brown TIMBERLAKE, Francis 1687-1727 Middlesex, Northumberland: James V Bartlett Jr TOWLES, Henry d 1721 Accomack (descendants in Lancaster): Craig Kilby VALLOTT, Claude 1649-1692 Middlesex: Craig Kilby VIVION, John d 1705 Middlesex: Ann Avery Hunter WALKER, Col. John c1601-1668/69 Rappahannock: Ann Avery Hunter WELCH, John 1600s Westmoreland: James V Bartlett Jr WILLIAMS, William d 1712 Essex: Ann Avery Hunter WILLIAMSON, Margaret d 1709 Lancaster: David Brown WILLIS, William 1690-1716 Richmond : James V Bartlett Jr WRIGHT, Francis c1640-c1690 Lancaster: Donna Price; Robert Grant Jim Bartlett

Two comments/questions here. As we all well know, to every rule there is an exception, except in genealogy that old saying should could well read "to every exception there is a rule" On Oct 25, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Jim Bartlett wrote: | BALL, William 1641-1694 Lancaster: David Brown Just wondering here why David isn't using the emigrant, William-1 Ball instead of his son William-2. Might make more sense if he did this: BALL, William 1650-1680 Lancaster: David Brown WILLIAMSON, James 1600s Essex: David Brown I'd be tempted to add: ATHEROLD, Hannah d 1695 Lancaster (widow of William-1 Ball): David Brown Her family name is an open question, but the Joseph Ball Letter Book says he (Joseph) recalled seeing an old family bible giving this as her name, and requested his overseer and nephew Joseph Chinn to look it up. We have no record if he ever did. But, in this way he would be capturing both generations of Balls. There are surely many more NN surnames down the line and I don't know if he has added them to the list. > SMITH, Robert d 1661 Westmoreland: Donald E King Well, technically, Robert Smith died in Northumberland County, though in 1664 the boundary was adjusted placing Robert Smith's land in Westmoreland County. All of main his records are in Northumberland County. But he came here via St. Mary's County Maryland. Tough one on how to describe. Will leave it our leader here. Craig

Since this will be an atDNA project, perhaps the title of this should read "Patriarchs and Matriarchs" On Oct 25, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Jim Bartlett wrote: > > Here's the latest list. I

Actually almost all atDNA Common Ancestors are 2 parents - two of their children are the ancestors of the 2 living folks with matching DNA. We cannot tell which of the 2 parents provided the shared DNA segment. To make it easy, we tend to list the Patriarch (who is known in most cases). So this is why we call it the Patriarch list (an extension of the surname list). Listing all of the wives almost doubles the list, without adding much value in spotting the Common Ancestor. There are a few cases where a Matriarch is known, but her father is not. These cases should be added if that is essential to finding the Common Ancestor. Our objective here is not to be technically correct, or to be 100% correct. The objective with this list is to provide a reasonable list of folks who might be Common Ancestors, without making the list so long that it becomes unwieldy. This is why it is also limited to NN Ancestors of folks who are in the NN DNA project. Jim - Sent from my iPhone - FaceTime! On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:15 PM, Craig Kilby <persisto1@gmail.com> wrote: > Since this will be an atDNA project, perhaps the title of this should read "Patriarchs and Matriarchs" > > On Oct 25, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Jim Bartlett wrote: > >> >> Here's the latest list. I > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VA-NORTHERN-NECK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message