Jim There is a Y-DNA Virginia geographic project for men at FTDNA with ancestral connections prior to 1700. The area included is made up of the eight original Shires (counties): Accawmack (Northampton), Charles City, Charles River (York), Elizabeth City, Henrico, James City, Warrosquyoake (Isle of Wight) and Warwick River (Warwick). Also included is Chickacoan District (Northumberland). Daughter counties are Gloucester, Lancaster, New Kent, Surry, Westmoreland, Accomack, Stafford, Middlesex, New Norfolk, Upper Norfolk, Lower Norfolk, Norfolk, Nansemond, Princess Ann, King and Queen, Essex, and Richmond. I have tried to join but so far they have not given approval. It might be interesting to attempt to couple that project with your new autosomal project. The URL is http://www.familytreedna.com/public/va-1600s/ Jack McAnally Don't bother to look for it yet - I've sent an email to FTDNA, because I can log into the page, but cannot find it to join my Kit. Jim Bartlett